On Apr 8, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Sean Carroll wrote:
Done right, it would appear that there should be no problem using the
same external drive partition for Time Machine backup for 2 different
Macs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
You're wrong. When connected to a single volume, time machine uses the
have erased and partitioned.
An academic question (or two) to help me understand Time Machine
better: Why the different folders for each computer if TM is not
equipped to keep track accordingly? Even though the backups from both
OS's were all incorrectly lumped into the MiniLion folder
On Apr 9, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Sean Carroll wrote:
Why the different folders for each computer if TM is not equipped to keep
track accordingly? Even though the backups from both OS's were all
incorrectly lumped into the MiniLion folder (presumably because of my own
little snafu), subfolders
Done right, it would appear that there should be no problem using the
same external drive partition for Time Machine backup for 2 different
Macs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
My problem is that some backups are in the wrong folder. What I should
see in column view is:
TM
Il giorno 17-01-2012 16:02, Bill ha scritto:
The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via
Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount.
AFAIK, some WD external drives have been known for having issues with Macs.
You might do some Google research, but perhaps
On Jan 17, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Bill wrote:
Hello all,
The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via
Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount.
I have tried everything to get it to show up on the Desktop under
10.4.11 and 10.5.8 but to no avail.
Can
or SuperDuper for your real backups.
As an another anecdotal non-data point, I have NEVER seen this happen, and I've
set up dozens of time machine disks for various folks around the college, and
myself.
We have had issues where the drives died, but never an issue of time machine
corrupting itself
Hello all,
The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via
Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount.
I have tried everything to get it to show up on the Desktop under
10.4.11 and 10.5.8 but to no avail.
Can someone recommend a reliable USB Hard Drive that I
At 7:02 AM -0800 1/17/2012, Bill wrote:
[eliminated the goto by moving this stuff to the top]
Quicksilver G4, Two internal HDs, Leopard, Tiger, and OS 9.
The WD (My Book Essential) that I have been using for backups (via
Time Machine on 10.5.8, and 10.4.11) now refuses to mount.
I have tried
You heard me --
GO RUN YOUR BACKUPS! NOW!
DON'T WAIT!
It's the beginning of the month -- GET IT DONE!
Is that subtle enough? :)
yea yea yea... Ok... Running backups...
FWIW, this is how I do my weekly and monthly full backups:
0. Quit all applications.
We're gonna do some clean up
At 12:09 PM -0400 8/12/2011, Dan wrote:
You heard me --
GO RUN YOUR BACKUPS! NOW!
Well, the sentiment is right but as you can see this email went out
before it was finished...
sigh.
One of those days...
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--
You received
What? It's the beginning of the month and you're just sitting there
staring at the screen again?!
Get a move on -- RUN BACKUPS!
DON'T DELAY!
DO IT NOW!
NOW!
Carbon Copy Cloner (our fav)
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html
or SuperDuper! (good, but not as versatile)
http://www.shirt
. ...I'm just starting to look at Zmanda (the open
source solution Bruce mentions in his reply). It looks interesting!
I've used Retrospect since about version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the
move to EMC may have wrought.
It isn't pretty.
Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups
version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the
move to EMC may have wrought.
It isn't pretty.
Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or
SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning
during the day, use Time Machine *also*.
Thank you, Dan. I
At 1:30 AM +0200 11/13/2009, Baha Ata wrote:
I never trusted tapes... hard to protect them... I had lost 50 GB
(lots of tapes) 5 years ago...
Magtape is quite reliable - if cared for properly. That means they
have to be kept in a temp and humidity controlled environment, and
spun thru once
On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
The two frontrunners these days are CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) and
SuperDuper!. My current preference is for CCC. We've had quite a
few threads on the LEM lists discussing these products. If you're
interested in them, you should search
and it's still being marketed as all
new!.
Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or
SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning
during the day, use Time Machine *also*.
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:28 AM, t...@io.com wrote:
Is Retrospect out of the running? I'm quite behind the times with the
switch to OSX. My main machine is still running 9.1, but my partner's
and son's machines are on OSX and I really should have started a
backup system for them a couple of
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
all
new!.
Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or
SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning
during the day, use Time Machine *also*.
--
Seeing that old name I
Perfomance problems, other than that... i tried small restores... i never
tried full restore... There are other people probably here might have deeper
experiences... I was generally lost it, rescue it type of guy until last
disaster of mine
2009/11/10 Dan dantear...@gmail.com
At 12:14 AM +0200
On Nov 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Yeah, part of my point. Little content other than a push toward
favored
solution sellers. I did mention my media studies, right? Had the
article
been thick with logic and reasoning I would have thought the intent
really
.
The article points out the basic blunders. The included links are to
product review articles. I really don't see a problem with that.
Had the article been thick with logic and reasoning
then its point would have been totally lost, because the people that
most need to do backups wouldn't have bothered
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote:
I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB
External nowadays...
Have you had any problems with Time Machine?
I've been running it since I updated to 10.5 and haven't hand more
than
are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine?
2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
On Nov 9, 2009, at 7:52 PM, Dan wrote:
At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote:
I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB
External
. It's main disadvantages are that it does not produce a
bootable backup, although it can be used as a total restore. It is
also difficult to set up with an off/on site rotation of backups.
Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very
easy to recover form a failed HDD: just
.
That being said
AFAIK, there are no products except Time Machine that fully hook into
OS X to provide the event driven incremental backups. All other
backup products simply do their incremental work (take a snapshot) at
the time you schedule (run) them.
The two frontrunners these days
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
wrote:
Carbon Copy Cloner (and the very similar Super Duper) makes it very
easy to recover form a failed HDD: just boot from your backup.
To create a bootable clone copy of an OS X partition I've always just
used
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Dan wrote:
At 6:56 PM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote:
are there any good if not better alternatives for Time Machine?
So far you and Bruce are the only two folx I know that haven't had
major TM fooage. By major I mean that TM farks so badly that it's
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:52 AM, iJohn wrote:
What advantage is there to using these other apps beyond what Apple's
Disk Utility would provide?
CCC lets you schedule copies and maintains an up-to-date version, only
copying files that have changed.
--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
thanks bruce and others... i am a noivice in Apple world, just seriously
using this machines for a year (even i smiliar with them since 1988).
Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it will be
my last question.
2009/11/10 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
hmmm... i might try it... if i can... i will report it
2009/11/11 Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu
On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Baha Ata wrote:
Any PC software that can backup Apple's from PC? For networks... it
will be
my last question.
Big enterprise solutions like
Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done!
http://www.macworld.com/article/143572/2009/11/botchedbackups.html
- Dan.
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- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done!
http://www.macworld.com/article/143572/2009/11/botchedbackups.html
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth
On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
Mac users need to all buy more drive hardware. The industry needs a
cash
injection.
That's what I saw.
Ummm... I have witnessed irrevocable data loss from each and every one
of those scenarios.
The key questions to ask
.
Stewie
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 12:22:52 -0500
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
From: dantear...@gmail.com
Subject: Backups? !!!
Did you run your backups last week? or yesterday? Get it done!
http://www.macworld.com/article/143572/2009/11/botchedbackups.html
should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just
stashed in a friend's sock drawer.
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for
those using G3
of backups off-site; even if it's just
stashed in a friend's sock drawer.
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--
Baha Ata
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for
those using G3
No. Sounds like a decent strategy to me.
Everyone should keep a set of backups off-site; even if it's just
stashed in a friend's sock drawer.
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--
Baha Ata
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You
, Bruce!
tongue in cheek ( even when rather true) is lost here right?
Of course we need backups if we have data to protect. That is a given.
But look at the page that was backlinked. Look at the links off of that.
My comments were more about the page linked to and the motivations and
agendas
not
an IT pro just an enthusiastic amateur who seems to be the fixit guy for
friends , neighbours etc ) that have no backups in place and they include a
couple with twenty to thirty employees !
Stewie
From: fluxstrin...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:24:17 -0500
Subject: Re: Backups? !!!
To: g3-5
At 7:24 PM -0500 11/9/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
But look at the page that was backlinked. Look at the links off of that.
But do we really need to be told this by an ad filled with ads
disguised as a magazine?
Layers of irony like those of an onion were at play when I saw that
At 12:14 AM +0200 11/10/2009, Baha Ata wrote:
I use Time Machine with 24 hours backup intervals with 1.5 TB
External nowadays...
Have you had any problems with Time Machine?
- Dan.
--
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
At 7:24 PM -0500 11/9/2009, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
But look at the page that was backlinked. Look at the links off of that.
But do we really need to be told this by an ad filled with ads
disguised as a magazine?
current backups via Time Machine and that's it.
I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run
DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I
said, OS X is robust. Leave it the heck alone and it usually runs
pretty well all by itself.
--
Bruce Johnson
University
On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run
DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I
said, OS X is robust. Leave it the heck alone and it usually runs
pretty well all by itself.
Since you do not
On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Apr 27, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
I do no other 'system maintenance' whatsoever: I don't run
DiskWarrior, Repair Permissions, Onyx, AppleJack, etc etc etc. As I
said,
On Apr 27, 2009, at 12:44 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:
I have always had it connected to
an UPS, usually APC. Buy a new one every couple years when the battery
goes. (Not worth it to ship a battery methinks.)
If you have a chain like Batteries Plus in your neck of the woods,
they sell
- coupla questions:
1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and
then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and
the system does something weird, wouldn't it be better to have a
system to revert to?
Absolutely
2. Can CCC do this?
This is CCC's main
On Apr 26, 2009, at 10:09 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:
On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive
and
then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and
the system does something weird, wouldn't
At 10:09 PM -0400 4/26/09, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:
On Apr 26, 2009, at 2:09 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
1. I feel like making two separate backups, one of my whole drive and
then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and
the system does something weird, wouldn't it be better
separate backups, one of my whole drive and
then one of my user folder, as if I backup every couple of days and
the system does something weird, wouldn't it be better to have a
system to revert to?
2. Can CCC do this?
3. Does CCC copy things in a way that I can look at them, unlike the
file
An update to Dan's post to me on ChronoSync's non-bootable backup issue.
I am working with version 4 beta and it does seem to be doing the job.
First thing I did was a complete fresh install on new 500gb drive #1,
then clone it to drive #2. Boots and operates fine.
As I am reinstalled
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