Re: G5 Question

2010-08-03 Thread dc
On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up the Expansion Slot Utility program and you will see

Re: G5 Question

2010-08-03 Thread Dana Collins
On 8/3/10 4:02 PM, dc of dbc...@verizon.net sent On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up

Re: Monitor Question

2010-08-03 Thread glen
--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Kevin Barth godai@gmail.com wrote: From: Kevin Barth godai@gmail.com The monitors of interest is Hannspree 225DPB available at the local Staples office supply that I could not find the p rating. The advantage is I can pick this one up tomorrow and no lost

Re: Monitor Question

2010-08-03 Thread Jason Brown
On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:13 PM, glen wrote: My reply: Thanks Kevin, I went with the Hannspree 22 mostly because it was an easy, cheap and fast replacement. Like most new monitors the screen images are crisp and clear. No real complaints it will suit my purpose. The only thing difficult

Re: Monitor Question

2010-08-03 Thread glen
Really miss the adjustment buttons on the frame of the old 20 Dell 2005 UltraSharp that died. --glen Do you know what went bad? It is most likely either an inverter, caps or the likeliest problem, bulbs burned out. If you want that monitor repaired, I and likely a few others on

Monitor Question

2010-08-02 Thread glen
Need I new monitor. My old 20 LCD Dell is on life support. No complaints got used as a gift many years ago. My budget is in the $150 range and the primary use is for graphic arts (commercial but not too color sensitive) and secondarily for general web browsing/email. First question, which

Re: Monitor Question

2010-08-02 Thread admin
How do you do that? I always wondered why one monitor couldn't work for all uses. Thanks. On Aug 2, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Kevin Barth wrote: I have a 22 viewsonic CRT that I'm still using, more than 10 years after it's date of manufacture. It has never shown a single problem, has

G5 Question

2010-08-02 Thread DLC
-lane PCI Express slot (I presume the two four-lane slots are the 100MHz slots, and the third is a 133MHz slot, yes?) My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Thank you for the consideration. Best regards, Dana

Re: G5 Question

2010-08-02 Thread Eric Herbert
Express slots, and one open full-length eight-lane PCI Express slot (I presume the two four-lane slots are the 100MHz slots, and the third is a 133MHz slot, yes?) My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct

Re: Monitor Question

2010-08-02 Thread Justin The Cynical
browsing/email. If colour reproduction isn't too critical, then sure, the panel will work. But for accurate colour reproduction, last I heard, only the most expensive LCD panels will almost match the accuracy of a good CRT. First question, which would be the better 780p or 1080p. I think this has

RE: DiskWarrior boot question

2010-07-11 Thread Stewie de Young
Hi All I have a G4 Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor. The problem I have is DiskWarrior 4 requires G4 up and a minimum 867MHz processor speed to boot from the disk The Cube was originaly 450 MHz. My Cube is now 1.2 GHz but it wont boot the DiskWarrior 4 disk . I have to use

Re: DiskWarrior boot question

2010-07-11 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 10, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Stewie de Young wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor. The problem I have is DiskWarrior 4 requires G4 up and a minimum 867MHz processor speed to boot from the disk The Cube was originaly 450 MHz. My Cube is now 1.2 GHz but it

DiskWarrior boot question

2010-07-10 Thread John Carmonne
Hi All I have a G4 Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor. The problem I have is DiskWarrior 4 requires G4 up and a minimum 867MHz processor speed to boot from the disk The Cube was originaly 450 MHz. My Cube is now 1.2 GHz but it wont boot the DiskWarrior 4 disk . I have to use DiskWarrior 3.

Re: DiskWarrior boot question

2010-07-10 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:24 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I have a G4 Cube with a Sonnet 1.2 GHz processor. The problem I have is DiskWarrior 4 requires G4 up and a minimum 867MHz processor speed to boot from the disk The Cube was originaly 450 MHz. My Cube is now 1.2 GHz but it wont

Re: Emac and pre-amp question

2010-07-08 Thread onelucent
I think weakest link applies. Depending on the quality of that simple, often low-cost pre-amp. But if it is strictly an Old World turntable, I believe you do need some type of pre-amp. I didn't have much luck with that set-up. One day will get one of those USB turntables. Take a look

Re: Emac and pre-amp question

2010-07-08 Thread Michael B. in Cincinnati
There's an impedance issue here. Preamps made for turntables have a very specific resistance and capacitance across the output that is specified by the RIAA to give a flat frequency response. CD or other line inputs lack this termination, and will give you some odd sounds. You'll be better off

Emac and pre-amp question

2010-07-07 Thread Fred Thiel
I have a 1GHz eMac running OSX 10.4.11 Tiger I want to use to record vinyl to CD using Vinyl Studio. I would like to use my turntable with a pre-amp to do this. The pre-amp I have in mind is a TCC TC-750LC phono preamp with an output level control, so if the software volume control doesn't

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-06 Thread maggell42
I'm late..thank you all...I was traveling with a pretty bad internet service ... the last answer about this ECC is enough for me. Thank you again On Jul 5, 2010 3:21pm, Miguel Garcia Gell maggel...@gmail.com wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C).

G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Miguel Garcia Gell
*I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 **CL3 **ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help* -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Of course! Try it out, since the 2 machines are similar. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 5, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help It works in my machines PM G4s and PM G5. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Miguel Garcia Gell
*I just try...minutes ago, (unplug the power and push the power for kill the static) pull it out the 4 modules of 256 and try with the 2x1 GB. The machine make 2 or 3 beeps with hard spinning fans... but that's it* On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.comwrote: Of

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread John Carmonne
On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I just try...minutes ago, (unplug the power and push the power for kill the static) pull it out the 4 modules of 256 and try with the 2x1 GB. The machine make 2 or 3 beeps with hard spinning fans... but that's it On Mon, Jul 5, 2010

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Dan
At 3:21 PM -0400 7/5/2010, Miguel Garcia Gell wrote: I have 2 IBM modules of 1 GB DDR 400 CL3 ECC (PC3200R-HYS72D128300HBR-5-C). Can this module work in a G5 1.8 Single CPU? thank you for any help Then at 3:43 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Of course! Try it out, since the 2 machines are

Re: G5 1.8 PPC memory RAM Question???

2010-07-05 Thread Eric Herbert
You stated earlier that the memory you have from your IBM is ECC. The PowerMac doesn't support ECC memory. You need plain-jane, generic unbuffered memory. The same stuff that 99% of all PeeCee's run on. On Jul 5, 2010, at 6:17 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Jul 5, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Miguel

POOCH Clustering Question

2010-06-30 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Dear G3-5 List: I know that the clustering app POOCH is free for up to four nodes. My question is: can I hook up four dual-processor G5s of differing speeds and RAM capacities (from 2.3GHz to 2.7GHz and from 1GB to 8GB) and have them run smoothly? Sent from a computer running either the SPARC

Re: POOCH Clustering Question

2010-06-30 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Dear G3-5 List: I know that the clustering app POOCH is free for up to four nodes. My question is: can I hook up four dual-processor G5s of differing speeds and RAM capacities (from 2.3GHz to 2.7GHz and from 1GB to 8GB) and have them run

Re: POOCH Clustering Question

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Where do I download this? please i need this. --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at

Re: liquid cooled G5 question

2010-06-24 Thread roger deghetto
just the quad core is liquid cooled as i have a dual core 2.0ghz and its not liquid cooled hope this helps roger On Jun 23, 8:33 pm, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, i've read about the problems associated particularly w/ the earlier models having a cooling system made by

Re: liquid cooled G5 question

2010-06-24 Thread John Carmonne
On Jun 24, 2010, at 4:18 AM, roger deghetto wrote: On Jun 23, 8:33 pm, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: IIRC, i've read about the problems associated particularly w/ the earlier models having a cooling system made by Delphi. supposedly Apple then switched to a cooling system made

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-24 Thread Greg
On Jun 18, 8:20 pm, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: I should probably mention that it says on the Software Restore disks that it is compatible with OS 10.1.2 and OS 9.22.  Should that give me problems with 104.11? It won't give any problems. You install 10.4, work up to

Re: G4 Modem question

2010-06-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:49 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, A quick question, please. My elderly friend still connects to the web via dial-up. I give him a new (to him) G4/600MHz and internal modem running Tiger on it. He's asked me to come over and help him with his connections to Localnet

Re: G4 Modem question

2010-06-23 Thread Dana Collins
On 6/23/10 11:59 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jun 22, 2010, at 6:49 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, A quick question, please. My elderly friend still connects to the web via dial-up. I give him a new (to him) G4/600MHz and internal modem running Tiger

liquid cooled G5 question

2010-06-23 Thread ah...clem
IIRC, i've read about the problems associated particularly w/ the earlier models having a cooling system made by Delphi. supposedly Apple then switched to a cooling system made by Panasonic. is it safe to assume that all of the late '05 models with the dual-core processors had the Panasonic

Zenith View All PC/Mac to TV link-up question

2010-06-22 Thread Stro
Greetings, I was going some boxes and discovered a Zenith View All. Does anybody know if this will work on a G4 DA? Thanks, Lee G4 Digital Audio dual 533mhz 1.5gb ram -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with

Re: Zenith View All PC/Mac to TV link-up question

2010-06-22 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 22, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Stro wrote: Greetings, I was going some boxes and discovered a Zenith View All. Does anybody know if this will work on a G4 DA? Google does not know what this is...if it's some sort of VGA-RCA converter, generally those are OS-agnostic, but if you're thinking

G4 Modem question

2010-06-22 Thread DLC
Greetings all, A quick question, please. My elderly friend still connects to the web via dial-up. I give him a new (to him) G4/600MHz and internal modem running Tiger on it. He's asked me to come over and help him with his connections to Localnet. Presuming that something in Network settings my

OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread Scotty
This may fit under the heading of stupid newbie questions so please be patient with me. My Mac may be 8 years old, but I am really new to the platform. I have a G4 933 mhz Quicksilver. When I bought it had a clean install of OSX 10.5 on it, but no 10.5 disk was included with it. Anyway. The

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Scotty wrote: This may fit under the heading of stupid newbie questions so please be patient with me. My Mac may be 8 years old, but I am really new to the platform. I have a G4 933 mhz Quicksilver. When I bought it had a clean install of OSX 10.5 on it, but no

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread Daniel Stewart
I should probably mention that it says on the Software Restore disks that it is compatible with OS 10.1.2 and OS 9.22. Should that give me problems with 104.11? On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:59 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Scotty wrote: This may fit

Re: OS X upgrade question

2010-06-18 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Jun 18, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Daniel Stewart wrote: I should probably mention that it says on the Software Restore disks that it is compatible with OS 10.1.2 and OS 9.22. Should that give me problems with 104.11? Just do straight 10.4 and the the updates to 10.4.11. you can skip all the

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Michael G.M.
On May 14, 10:31 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes my USB mouse acts up. I cannot move the mouse cursor until I hit the CAPS Lock key (on  then off) Does this mean the USB port on the KB might be dying? Or is the KB dying? Or the USB port on the back of the tower is

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.comwrote: On May 14, 10:31 pm, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes my USB mouse acts up. I cannot move the mouse cursor until I hit the CAPS Lock key (on then off) Does this mean the USB port on the KB

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Michael G.M.
On May 15, 7:04 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I tried it in the powered hub with no better success so I bought a new mouse. I have had god luck with Logitech so I bought from them again. This time it is a Logitech Pilot Mouse. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 Cool! I'm

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Michael G.M. michaelgm717...@gmail.comwrote: On May 15, 7:04 am, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: I tried it in the powered hub with no better success so I bought a new mouse. I have had god luck with Logitech so I bought from them again. This

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Clark Martin
On 5/14/10 7:31 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Sometimes my USB mouse acts up. I cannot move the mouse cursor until I hit the CAPS Lock key (on then off) Does this mean the USB port on the KB might be dying? Or is the KB dying? Or the USB port on the back of the tower is dying? A clue that might

Re: Question

2010-05-15 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 5/14/10 7:31 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Sometimes my USB mouse acts up. I cannot move the mouse cursor until I hit the CAPS Lock key (on then off) Does this mean the USB port on the KB might be dying? Or is the KB

Re: USB Question

2010-05-14 Thread Clark Martin
On 5/13/10 10:45 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net mailto:cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed?

Re: USB Question

2010-05-14 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:26 AM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: *BIG SNIP* OK, here is what Apple System Profiler says The Second USB Hub is powered off a power cord while the first is powered by the USB Bus There's your problem. You have the keyboard running off the bus powered

Re: USB Question

2010-05-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 14, 2010, at 1:26 AM, Clark Martin wrote: There's your problem. You have the keyboard running off the bus powered hub. You should have the keyboard plugged into a either an externally powered hub or the computer. Best bet is to be connected directly to the computer. That's

All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Len Gerstel
This search primarily involves Mail (running 2.1.3 on 10.4.11), but I could use this in other applications. Absolute best case scenario, I am looking for something that would do the following. Highlight a block of text in a program. Right (or control) click on it and in the contextual

Re: All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Fabian Fang
On May 14, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: This search primarily involves Mail (running 2.1.3 on 10.4.11), but I could use this in other applications. Absolute best case scenario, I am looking for something that would do the following. Highlight a block of text in a program. Right

Re: All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 14, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: Background, FWIW. I send my brother a LOT of texts relating to business. I find it infinitely easier to send an email from my computer than to use my cell. Many cell carriers offer this option, for example 3015551...@vtext.com is for

Re: All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Len Gerstel
On May 14, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On May 14, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: This search primarily involves Mail (running 2.1.3 on 10.4.11), but I could use this in other applications. Absolute best case scenario, I am looking for something that would do the

Re: All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Doug McNutt
It works great for what it does. Much easier than firing up Word. Now, for lazy ol' me, if I could find the same thing that pops up when I right click instead of mousing ALL THE WAY to the menu bar life would be wonderful. I typically use pbpaste | wc as a command in Terminal.app to

Re: All program word/character count question

2010-05-14 Thread Len Gerstel
On May 14, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: It works great for what it does. Much easier than firing up Word. Now, for lazy ol' me, if I could find the same thing that pops up when I right click instead of mousing ALL THE WAY to the menu bar life would be wonderful. I typically

Question

2010-05-14 Thread Stephen Conrad
Sometimes my USB mouse acts up. I cannot move the mouse cursor until I hit the CAPS Lock key (on then off) Does this mean the USB port on the KB might be dying? Or is the KB dying? Or the USB port on the back of the tower is dying? A clue that might helpI see the light on the CAPS Lock key

USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Conrad
For the longest time I ran my digital camera off the left-hand USB pot on my KB (mouse runs off the other one) Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? What could have changed? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 13, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? Most cameras not only transfer data but also recharge the battery via USB. What could have changed? The battery is

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Damian
Try using a USB extension cable connected to one of your USB ports instead of the keyboard USB port. On May 13, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: For the longest time I ran my digital camera off the left-hand USB pot on my KB (mouse runs off the other one) Today when I plugged the

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Today when I plugged the camera into the cord (which I leave plugged in) I got a Low Power Warning. Why is this? Most cameras not only transfer data but also

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Kris Tilford
On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable batteries. I think if

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Bruce Johnson
On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply. I've seen this message before using

RE: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Stewie de Young
On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA NiMH rechargeable

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.comwrote: On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Clark Martin
On 5/13/10 1:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: This camera uses 3 AAA batteries and I have regular old alkaline cells in it . You might want to check this to be sure which is right for your camera. I have several small Sony cameras that use AAA

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Clark Martin
On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total per USB port unless you have an external USB hub with its own power supply.

Re: USB Question

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net wrote: On 5/13/10 1:34 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 13, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: What could have changed? The battery is lower on charge, and is drawing more amperage than before. The limit is 500mA total

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-05-12 Thread John Niven
--- On Thu, 4/29/10, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: I just pre-ordered a 3G iPad and find it annoying that I HAVE to have Leopard to use it with a Mac (I'm currently still using Tiger) but I can use it with Windows XP if I want. This clearly illustrates Apples marketing strategy! It

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Oh wow. You should do what I did to my PM G4 sawtooth. I have a triple-boot system on there. (Don't install jaguar, I did that for performance since that was the system's original OS.) Partition your HDD, one for tiger and one for Leopard. And whenever you need to sync your iPad, just boot into

Question

2010-05-09 Thread Stephen Conrad
I found myself something called an iTrip Can I access it somehow with my G4 Quicksilver? If so, how do I do this? Also, what is this thing? -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space.

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread James Therrault
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors? Not sure to what exactly you're commenting. Apple chooses to trust its customers,

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Dan
At 9:56 AM -0500 4/29/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors? Not sure to what exactly you're

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread James Therrault
On Apr 29, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Dan wrote: At 9:56 AM -0500 4/29/2010, James Therrault wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Dan wrote: At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once? --  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Ted Treen
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once? Pray tell me how in God's name

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once?

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread JOHN CARMONNE
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:22 PM, Ted Treen wrote: Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:32 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Pray tell me how in God's name you're going to add an installation counter to a pressed read-only CD/DVD? Windbloze does it and anything you install on a PC normally will try to shake you down. No, Windows does NOT do this. There's

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread John Niven
--- On Thu, 4/29/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: Windbloze does it and anything you install on a PC normally will try to shake you down. In the Windows case you HAVE to register with MS after an initial period since the install. The difference between MS and Apple is MS makes its

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:53 PM, John Niven wrote: I just pre-ordered a 3G iPad and find it annoying that I HAVE to have Leopard to use it with a Mac (I'm currently still using Tiger) but I can use it with Windows XP if I want. This clearly illustrates Apples marketing strategy! It does

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: However, Windows phones home with the info and serial number when you connect to the internet. Yes, when you authenticate. If you don't authenticate then after some period (30 days?? for Win 7??) then as you say,

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:45 PM, iJohn wrote: The thing that I never see people talk about is that everything Microsoft does by way of authentication is neither free nor a one-time expense. They continually pay to support their authentication function. Obviously there is the cost of keeping the

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Albert Carter
. From: iJohn zjboyguard-ggro...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, April 29, 2010 7:45:13 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc??? On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: However, Windows phones home

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: People buying upgrades and folks setting up a handful of DIY boxes for their business or something run into these hassles, but frankly, these people are small fry, and MS doesn't really give a crap about them.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread iJohn
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Albert Carter slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: This is not true. The only thing that is different about the distribution of Windows 7 from XP and Vista is that the DVDs contain both the 32-bit and the x64 version of code. There are still individual discs for Home

{Manager Comment] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-29 Thread Fabian Fang
[ I am top-posting because of the length of the following Off-Topic message. ] It appears that this thread has just about run its course. Discussions about PC notebooks, or most other laptops, installations of Windows 7, whatever version, authentication by Microsoft, etc., etc., are

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-28 Thread James Therrault
On Apr 25, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: I don't think Apple will care about this at all, they are old OS's... If it was Leopard or Snow Leopard that would be different... I'm only living on S.S. Disability, I do not own anything or have any large amount of money saved and

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-28 Thread Richard Gerome
therapy for me and I'm wondering what you would do if you were in my shoes??? Maybe I should do what some others do who are in my shoes, overdose on drugs and veg out in front of the tube??? What do you do for a living and how much money do you make??? Do you fell up to answering that question

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors?  Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-28 Thread Dan
At 12:01 AM -0400 4/29/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Oh really? Then how come i am able to install tiger on multiple computers without activation or licence errors? Not sure to what exactly you're commenting. Apple chooses to trust its customers, and not employ the draconian measures that

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-26 Thread Jonas Lopez
--- On Sun, 4/25/10, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc??? To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 11:44 AM At 2:14 PM -0400 4/25/2010, Len Gerstel wrote: If the CD stopped working

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-26 Thread dorayme
Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com Apr 25 06:07PM -0600 ^ On 25/04/10 12:44 PM, Dan wrote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/Oakie%20loves%20Lasagna%2C% 2023nov2007.jpg - Dan. That's a lovely picture, Dan. Made my rather boring day today. Yes, cute. Here are a couple of btws: 1. Who has a

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Mark Sokolovsky
Actually there is an unlimited usage on the install discs. Unlike Windows install discs, As long as someone purchases it, and you have it, you can install it on as many computers as you desire. -- Sent from my Power mac G4 Sawtooth. -- You received this message because you are a member of

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Dan
At 1:02 AM -0400 4/25/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Actually there is an unlimited usage on the install discs. Unlike Windows install discs, As long as someone purchases it, and you have it, you can install it on as many computers as you desire. Wrong. The FIRST link provided by googling

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Richard Gerome
Thanks!!! Just for safety sake as soon as I get my Ti Powerbook fixed I'm going to try and make some copies of it!!! (I already have some friends trying) I think that's why that Jaguar disc went bad??? At 1:02 AM -0400 4/25/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Actually there is an unlimited

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Dan
Title: Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc??? At 12:10 PM -0400 4/25/2010, Richard Gerome wrote: Just for safety sake as soon as I get my Ti Powerbook fixed I'm going to try and make some copies of it!!! Making a backup of an installation CD/DVD is a good plan. (I already have some

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Richard Gerome
Title: Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc??? It didn't go bad from copying it, I was using it to reload Jaguar on all those Clamshells I was rebuilding and one day it stopped working... I didn't know why but I was thinking it used up all it's licenses??? That's when I got another Jaguar

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 25, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Dan wrote: At 1:02 AM -0400 4/25/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: Actually there is an unlimited usage on the install discs. Unlike Windows install discs, As long as someone purchases it, and you have it, you can install it on as many computers as you desire.

Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???

2010-04-25 Thread Len Gerstel
On Apr 25, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: At 12:10 PM -0400 4/25/2010, Richard Gerome wrote: Just for safety sake as soon as I get my Ti Powerbook fixed I'm going to try and make some copies of it!!! Making a backup of an installation CD/DVD is a good plan. (I already have

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