Re: [Audyssey] Help with Classic Pipe.
you may need ms windows media runtime components. wmaudioredist.exe ms should have them. blindsoftware.com should have them you should wonload that its a coman file. At 02:59 PM 4/20/2013, you wrote: Hello. When I go to run Classic Pipe I get the following message. --- Pipe 1.0 --- Component 'msoecmd32.dll' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid --- OK Can someone please help? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] For the attention of Ibrahim was Chillingham.
Hi Sorry to be a pain, but I never got an email from the site where you uploaded Chillingham. I'm really sorry. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
what is rauls games? your friend lee In a message dated 4/19/2013 7:45:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, d...@xgam.org writes: Hi Sarah. i will certainly upload them if I can. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Hi Dark, ok, sounds like you have most of them. It would be great if you could upload them if noone else has them by thursday then, thanks for that! You are right, it would be good if these files could be hosted somewhere. I like all his recordings too, and of course I'd like to hear new ones too. *smiles* Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] For the attention of Ibrahim was Chillingham.
Hi Lindsay. My sincere apologies, I've been having issues with Livedrive of late, plus with other commitments haven't had the time to reupload the file, however it has now been done and you will receive an email shortly from Livedrive with a link to download your game. All my best and apollogies once again for the delay, Ibrahim XX. -Original Message- From: Lindsay Cowell Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:41 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] For the attention of Ibrahim was Chillingham. Hi Sorry to be a pain, but I never got an email from the site where you uploaded Chillingham. I'm really sorry. Lindsay Cowell --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Actually sean, there are several Eamon deluxe adventures based on middle earth and lord of the rings. converted to Eamon deluxe format thus far there is tom zuchowski's thror's ring, (a very exceptional adventure set in moria), and Sam Ruby's game the mines of moria (less good but still fun). There is also sam Ruby's game the forest of fear, based on a raid into mirkwood to rescue aragorn, (a heavy combat hack but a decent one), his adventure the ring of doom based on the last part of lotr throwing the ring into the fire (good fun), an also his game set in the second age The Iron Prison based on a raide into Angband. Yet to be converted are sam ruby's more complex games the return to Moria, The quest for erebor (based on the hobbit), the hunt for the ring (based on the first part of lotr), and haradwaith, which involves infiltrating the harad lands. These will doubtless be converted to eamon deluxe in the future, along with Sam ruby's original games. Hth. all the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi Tom. well I'm not planning on going anywhere, so if you did! ever want me to write either for a lotr game or an original rp idea, let me know. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi charlse. I agree, indeed I did think such a defense was likely in a previous male, and I doubt that someone like warner brothers would want the bad publicity of being taken to court over such an access matter, especially when the actual prophit! they were talking about would be less than 0.1 percent of one of their big graphical titles. still, it's tom who'd be sticking his kneck out on this one, which is why i think donation is a safe bet. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
But the grue is behind you! guess who! Oh no, you have stagged into the fangs of a lirking grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Are you also going to upload a Grue that we must beware of? -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Hi Sarah. i will certainly upload them if I can. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Hi Dark, ok, sounds like you have most of them. It would be great if you could upload them if noone else has them by thursday then, thanks for that! You are right, it would be good if these files could be hosted somewhere. I like all his recordings too, and of course I'd like to hear new ones too. *smiles* Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
Hi Decota. Firstly, remember that the dropdown box on audiogames.net is not the be all and end all of site searching, and also that the disclaimer statement at the top of the site clearly states access as a primary motivation. Both of these were set by Richard and sander 10 years ago when the site began, and while it is true I cannot change them, it is equally true that I think people do forget the extra functions of the site simply because they just! use that dropdown. i don't blame people for this, for a screen reader user it makes sense, but the same is not true of everyone, and the amount of ties I get asked something like are there any statratogy games available when all a person has to do is search the archive with the right filter is unbelieveable. As regards mainstream games such as mass effect 2, while I have no problem people discussing these in the forum, I do not want to make them a primary feature of the site for two principle reasons. firstly is the access reason which I explain in the db guidelines, namely that if a game is only playable with considderable amounts of work, it is not accessible since the effort involved is not equalized. After all, a person could in theory play any sighted game by just learning the right combination of key presses if they took a long enough time, but this does not mean all games are accessible since such a procedure would be ridiculous. the second point, is that we are trying to get mainstream developers interested in audio game developement. If however we say oh, but blind people can play mass effect 2 the response is likely to be oh, well we've already done game access s so we don't need to do anything! this has certainly happened before, if a company can make lip service and a getout to something they will, and the last thing we want is the next beatemup with textual menues being promoted as an accessible game to the blind because some people have played beatemups without sound in the past by learning menues, reading faqs etc. Finally, as I said earlier, I do not believe myself that the separation of audio games from text adventures is quite that simple. Would you say for instance that the games from 7-128 are not true audio games because they use sapi? or lone wolf? and if a game with sapi and sound effects counts, why not something like smugglers, which has after all recieved massive updates. As an interesting fact, I have actually on several occasions played gamebooks and if games with a friend of mine who is a huge fan of the genre, (he has read me printed gamebooks in the past). These plays are cooperative, I read with supernova, we both make decisions. We are both listening to the audio (my friend says he finds it easier than reading the screen), so is this not an audio game? while I do appreciate your points decota, I just think your separation of catagories is not really workable enough, and this from the perspective of someone who has written up entries and played games with any amount of background audio or none. Myself, i think the way forward isn't to alter audiogames.net or our purpose, but to go out into the indi developement community and spread news about audio games elsewhere, so that just as indexes that list graphical games could also list audio ones. this already happens with games like core exiles and puppet nightmares listed on brouser indexes, but what we need is for people like Gma to be listed elsehwere too, so that people will see games like shades not as games for the blind but as games of the same genre that happen to use audio, whether that audio comes from sapi, screen reading software or voice acting. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
Hi Raul. Great to see these back. i for one would love to see more podcasts and game reccordings for pc or iphone, indeed in a discussion about storm8 games the other day I was thinking that more demos of those games would help me create audiogames.net entries for those the rest of them (we have I mobsters, vampires live and zombies live, but it'd be nice to do the others). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
In my opinion, it's kind of a bs response to say that screen readers make audiogames. Urban dead uses only the screen reader to give info. It's not an audiogame. It's a game played with a screen reader. I mean, I just don't understand why it's so important to call them audiogames, even though you use a screen reader to play them. You use your screen reader to use Windows, but it's not an audio operating system. I've basically lost the debate, mostly because there was literally no chance to change things in this reguard, and I do think that our developers should get their games out there in a wider range of gamer venues. I just think a line should be drawn. If the primary mechanic for playing a game is audio, that game should be called an audiogame. Let me be more specific: If most of the game's interface is self-generated audio, that game is an audiogame, not a videogame. If most of the game's interface is textual, that game is a textual game. If most of the game's interface is visual, that game is a videogame. Just because a game can make use of a screen reader, which produces audio, it isn't an audiogame. You could play the same game with a braille display, which would make it a tactile game. Audiogames.net could change. Maybe a mission statement written a decade ago is no longer appropriate and no longer serves us in this different day and age. Ten years may not seem all that long to some of us, but ten years has seen developments like the iPhone, Android, similar smartphone platforms which have radically changed our perceptions on gaming. It has seen the advent of Steam and Origin, immense game libraries available to the sighted world and unavailable to us in any form. It has seen the development of enormously powerful gaming consoles and computers which put anything we had ten years ago to shame. Maybe, just maybe, since the sighted world is interested more in game audio than ever before, we should be interested in giving themcredit where credit is due and helping them continue to develop. The problem we've found is that we want a current game to be accessible. Why can't I play the sims! The answer is to make future games accessible. Maybe a few big companies wouldn't try because we give them credit for some accessibility innately included in the game, but maybe they would find a way to incorporate that into their operating procedure. In my opinion, it's hypocritical to defend putting a text adventure on a game audio site because the developer has chosen to support screen readers, but to avidly deny putting up a major game, even though there are accessible features in an inaccessible game, which are audio based. I wish, sincerely, that I was invited to talk, with the support of an organization or group, to these developers, because I am sorely saddened by the way they are often approached by our community. This is outside the current topic in this thread, which is outside the original idea of the thread, but it's something that I feel compelled to say. We ask that a game title we see on shelves be expanded to include accessibility, in most cases. In none of those cases will we be granted our request, by any developer. Devs, keep in mind adding in an enormous change to interface on a whim. It isn't going to happen. Then, let's consider what I've read we are asking for... what are we asking for! We're not approaching the developers in a way that would make them interested. We're not providing them ways to make sighted people go Hey neat while we go We can now play too. Audiogames.net was originally conceived in an age where audyssey.org was kind of not doing much of anything but hosting an email list. There wasn't a complete collection of gaming links for the blind. There wasn't a single forum site for discussion of those games, and frankly this list is enormously high-traffic because it's an email list, not a forum, and people are not usually on here because it's so populated. Now, audyssey.org is trying to get started again. PCSGames.com has an enormous list of games. the list goes on. We could change. I just don't think we will. For my final word, I think that the drop down box isn't just easier to use for folks with screen readers. What person is going to go to a site, looking for audiogames, and instead of looking through the big, in your face list, say I think I'll search the site for audiogames for only games with audio. The point is kind of silly, although I understand that it's a sore spot due to the questions of those who would rather ask on list than try using the tools they are given. The list is right there. Everyone and anyone is going to use it. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Decota. Firstly, remember that the dropdown box on audiogames.net is not the be all and end all of site searching, and also that the disclaimer statement at the top of the site clearly states access as a primary motivation. Both of these were set by Richard and sander
Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
You said there was a part of mass effect that was playable by sound? Could you give me some more details as to exactly which one? That's probably the single graphical game I'd really want to play, so it would be nice to give it a try next time I'm near an xbox. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Cyber assault query
You can also use mushclient, especially if you have the plugins from alteraeon. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:18:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cyber assault query The mud is at Cyberassault.org Port 1 And this is from the client related helpfile in game: VIP-SUPPORT VIP_SUPPORT BLINDPLAYERS Provided By: Virjal This is an announcement to let you all know that MTScripts built on Monkey Term has support for this mud. Monkey Term supports windows opperating systems including vista and win7 32 and 64 bit. For more information please visit http://valiant8086.com/games/muds/monkeyterm --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Cyber assault query
I tried to use Mush client, but had problems to connect.. Any suggestion would be much appreciated. Thanks much. Angela from Italy. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:44 PM To: johnnyti...@shaw.ca; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cyber assault query You can also use mushclient, especially if you have the plugins from alteraeon. - Original Message - From: Johnny Tai johnnyti...@shaw.ca To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 22:18:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cyber assault query The mud is at Cyberassault.org Port 1 And this is from the client related helpfile in game: VIP-SUPPORT VIP_SUPPORT BLINDPLAYERS Provided By: Virjal This is an announcement to let you all know that MTScripts built on Monkey Term has support for this mud. Monkey Term supports windows opperating systems including vista and win7 32 and 64 bit. For more information please visit http://valiant8086.com/games/muds/monkeyterm --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Cerchi un QUADRO per arredare casa? Su MisterCupido.com puoi acquistare Quadri Moderni, Astratti, Floreali, Panoramici, in Pannelli, ecc. Consegne in tutta Italia in soli 2-3 giorni Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=12389d=20-4 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
hI there Well I'm old school. I've been righting insent messages b4 aol was even a house hold name or text messages wher even on cell phones, and with all the emails I wright a day well yes I'm lazy l o l But so r a lot of people like using hth in sted of wrighting out hope that helps or bfn bye for now. So bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
hI there sorry but on my screen reader it sounded just fine. So I never knew that it sounded strange to me. Sorry about that on this site I'll try to put a stop to it. You'll just have to forgive me if I slip up from time to time. Bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
the thing is, it isn't. these days, with full vertual keyboards on screen, and being able to type out as fast with that, as we could ever do with a numaric pad, its falling by the way side. its mostly lazy people who do it now. and i find it rather anoying. using shortcuts, like bfn or afk, or brb, or various other ones, is understandable, because its shortening multiple words in to one. but honestly, when its one word, why have one of two chars for it, when you could type the full thing in 3 or 4. makes no sense to me. regards dallas On 20/04/2013, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly don't text that way. The fact that writing numbers in place of actual words is considered normal is really quite sad to me. On 4/19/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: He writes emails like he's writing text messages. So, he uses 2 instead of to or too and b instead of be. I'm certainly no grammar cop or anything, but that's just lazy 2 me. Just kidding. To me. -- Raul A. Gallegos Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 4/18/2013 9:19 AM, Bryan Peterson wrote: What's with all those numbers? LOL. But thou must! -Original Message- From: James Bartlett Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:14 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BlindSoftware.com Is Closing Hi So where do I send my $5 to. I have 2 imit I have never played 1 of there games, but games r like books 2 me, and we need 2 hold on and keep them safe. Not only 4 ower gen but 4 ower kids and there kids and so on and so on. In order 2 know where u r going u have 2 know where u have been. I wouldn't wont a book 2 die and I don't wont a game 2 die ether. Bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] swamp and anew controller
Hello That sounds like fun. I hope you pick it back up some day. Bfn James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
Hello is there any chance that you could send me a link for the lone wolf missions or do you know where I can get them thanks in advance ---wayne c--Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? I think I have the 17 Lone Wolf missions, the 9 or 10 floors of Shades Of Doom, and the 6 sectors of GMA Tank Commander. Maybe a few others, too, but don't recall at the moment. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Sarah Haake ti...@gmx.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Hi Charles, that would be great, thanks! It seems Ken does not have all, so yours would definitively help. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
Hi Decota. I'm afraid I simply do not agree that your catagorizations of what is or is not an audio game are so easy as you suggest, indeed one thing that studdying philosophy has taught me is that rigid classifications are a sure fire way to desaster. Take the BG games for instance. They have a fully graphical interface, so by your deffinition they are vvideo games, yet they also contain audio for important game events and output to sapi. so what are they? I'm afraid your calling what I say Bs does not change the point at hand. Likewise, you talk about accessible parts in an inaccessible game well what is accessible? I have spent the last five years writing on that question and the ultimate answer I came with is that found in the database guidelines, namely, equal effort. As I said, you could! freely claime that original super mario brothers is accessible. There are sounds of jumps, walking, hitting monsters etc which nintendo inserted into the game, and it is undeniable that some blind people have learnt by timing to play through levels on original Super Mario brothers. This however is not! due to anything on the half of nintendo, rather it is simply because some people have what is super human patience, and I would not see mainstream companies get the credit for doing nothing when in effect the credit belongs to those individuals who do! exert massive amounts of effort to play games, despite missing %80 of the games' information. You also seem to have a slightly off idea of actually how! efforts to contact mainstream companies work. Since it is practically impossible to contact the developement section of Capcom, intendo etc (believe me, I've tried), the contact needs to be more formal, thus such conversations are not! done by E-mail, but by direct consultation at various conferences, or through press and the media such as the reporter who recently gained information on access to games. I have done some of this sort of work myself, and Richard and Sander webmasters of audiogames.net do far more, since ultimately big coorporations are not going to listen to any individual, but may! listen to formal groups such as the game accessibility special interest group. i do take the point that times have changed, however to me, this is even more! a chance to include and contact indi developers, since the Iphone and other systems are where such developements happen and it's by the indi developers that I personally believe we'll see changes in the future, and this is also why I'm adamant that all those indi devs who have! made changes to their games, whatever those changes be get the credit and recognition they deserve from the community. while I do take your point about game audio, to me that is not something which should be done by altering the community and the site attached to it, but by going out! into the mainstream indi game community and participating. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Just ignore my last 2 messages on this topic. I was going 2 b nice about it but after hearing the last 2 or 3 messages and how nasty they were well I think I'm going 2 do just what I've been doing. May b if u weren't so nasty than I would change my messages, but if u don't like the way I type then don't read the messages I send. James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Can a sighted person play swamp?
John, The part of Mass Effect that is playable is really a minigame, and it's mass effect 2. Now, I'll be the first to admit that most of mass effect is unplayable by us, but this one part, this one minigame, is entirely playable. In fact, I'd love to see a game made that is basically an expansion on this minigame. It could be done. The minigame in question involves scanning a planet for resources. When you come to a planet, you use probes to mine resources from the planet automatically. What you do is move your scanner across its surface. It wraps around, so I did overlap a little bit of my original starting point, but I scanned planets, judged the type of resource, each resource made a different sound, and amount present, the sound was at a higher pitch the more resources were available, and cover the entire planet, almost as well as any sighted person could have done. It's not a huge part of the game, nor is it an important story element, but if you look at a game that is meant for mainstream sighted players and you realize that there is a part of the game where you have almost as much info as they do, it's amazing. The only thing I couldn't get a read on was how many probes I had left, and of course I couldn't go buy more, but those are rather small elements when compared to the fact that I was entirely able to play even that small of an aspect of a major, big company, millions of dollars game. Dark, You and I are on the same court. We're playing the same ballgame, but we're playing different positions, both important. I look at audiogames as a genre. You do as well, but you look at it from a different point of view. I try to move the accessible toward the mainstream, you try to move the mainstream toward the accessible. I think that we can both get a lot of things accomplished, if we have the right tools and resources, but I'll be honest. I wish there were more people playing ball like I do. I think that Jeremy is playing it that way, making everyone use the mouse for Swamp, not allowing a keyboard alternative. He's making the accessible stuff more mainstream. My goal is to show people what they've already done, how they can improve, and how much we don't need to change. Your goal is to show them what we do need to change, how those changes have been done, and how they could be done. Both are useful. Keep that in mind. As for conferences, I really want to go to them. I want some official support in this. I'd love to go to Bioware and tell them that this little part of Mass Effect 2 was accessible. Hey. It changed my playing experience of the game. I was able to take the controls for myself and do something with complete confidence. And at the same time, there's a certain poignancy to being so excited about a rather small minigame. I know I'm not the only one who would love to sit and play that game for a while, scanning planets, gathering resources. I bet we'd all love to give it a go, and what does that say to them? This community is so interested in gaming, so excited about it, that they take one of our side quests and get really excited about it. How much more excited would they be if we put in two or three accessible side quests? Then, ... and then, they keep moving, slowly but surely in that direction. One little thank you, one little baby step, one little suggestion at a time. We're not working at cross purposes in this one, just from a different angle. That's what I want to do. That's why I want to get organized. If I only knew how, I'd already have everything set up. I'd already have a showcase of what we have done, what we can do. I just don't know how, so I'm learning, so I'm trying to influence what's already there. I don't want to ruin Audiogames.net. I don't want to stop giving credit to developers who put time and effort into making their games accessible to us, but accessibilitygames.net isn't what I'm trying to get going. I'm trying to push for integration, not separation or conciliation. I want people to see us in a different light. Not the community that's just a bit weird, just a bit different, always demanding change, always demanding ... whatever we demand. I want them to see us as willing to work toward that change, to be grateful for what has been done. We have a hard time with that, and it shows. As I said, I think we can do a lot, both of us, with both of our different perspectives. And I do think that there is room for both perspectives. However, I will ask a question. Which is easier to understand: rigid classification of games such as videogames, audiogames, text games, etc. or a lumpy genre including some of all of these? I'm not trying to rub anything into anyone's face, just to ask a question of practicality of a philosopher...and having a friend who just earned a degree in the philosophy program, I know how hard that can be to do. Is it better to have rigidly defined examples, get more done, give people a quick and dirty showcase when they show up to the site,
[Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi. There was a kickstarter a few months ago to produce the dice but it never got off the ground. I'd definitely bbe interested and I know a couple of other who would buy them as well. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah Rickard Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:43 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi Dark, Sure thing. When I'm ready to do something in terms of a RPG bee it LOTR or something original I'll certainly let you know. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. well I'm not planning on going anywhere, so if you did! ever want me to write either for a lotr game or an original rp idea, let me know. Beware the grue! mn dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
I certainly would. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:52 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi. There was a kickstarter a few months ago to produce the dice but it never got off the ground. I'd definitely bbe interested and I know a couple of other who would buy them as well. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah Rickard Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:43 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Count me in. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2013, at 8:03 AM, Lora lorav...@comcast.net wrote: I certainly would. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:52 AM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi. There was a kickstarter a few months ago to produce the dice but it never got off the ground. I'd definitely bbe interested and I know a couple of other who would buy them as well. Christina -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah Rickard Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:43 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Dakotah, I for one would think this is a good idea. Not sure how many blind people would invest in this venture, but it would be nice. the only braille dice I know of are the typical six sided kind you can get at any rehab center or independent living aids site. There have been many times I needed a 10, 12, or 20 sided die and they simply didn't exist for a blind user. So assuming the dice aren't extremely expensive I'd be interested in buying some. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Decota. Sadly not that I've heard. a few years ago, I tried to persuade the rnib to produce gaming dice on the basis that with gaming dice and access to a manual (and often not even that), blind people could be totally equal in the tabletop gaming sphere, but they flat out told me most of our members wouldn't be interested in this ie, the rnib's usual thinking that anyone who is under 60 and won't leve them money in their will doesn't exist. When i first started playing dD, we got a large size set of standard dice, and sticking braille lables on worked with most of them, but not with the d20 since the surfaces were just too small to take numbers (heck, we couldn't fit double didgits onto the d10). Though i have used Gma dice every week for several years playing our mutants and masterminds campeigne, I completely agree on the moree viseral and practial feeling of physically rolling dice, so I would certainly love a set of tactile gaming dice, though whether any company would wish to produce these I don't know. it's a shame really, since they'd be really quite easy to make. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
And don't forget D4's there Tom :D. I do remember the kickstarter project that people mentioned, and I even donated 20 usd, but as was said it didn't get going and I got my money back sadly. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] for Sarah and, anyone else who might want these
I've clicked on the link and I get error 404. Can you help to unlock the drop box folder? Thanks. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Curt Taubert Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 8:37 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] for Sarah and, anyone else who might want these I happened to find a few on my vista computer. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44174816/tutorial%202.zip -- Curt Taubert skype: curt_taubert twitter: curt78Curt Taubert --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Dark, That's unfortunate, but the fact of the matter is the majority of people with visual problems, either blind or low vision, are over 60. The RNIB and other organizations like them tend to market solely to the largest common denominator leaving youngsters like you and I out in the cold. Gr I do think though that having a company produce some braille gaming dice should be relatively easy if we could find someone interested in doing it. They already have standard six sided dice so I don't know why they can't come up with 10 and 20 sided dice for roll playing games and some of the more advanced board games out there. For example, I have this really cool board game with a castle and various game pieces like goblins, wizards, skeletons, rangers, dwarves, etc. What makes this game different is there are a number of different dice depending on the situation. The Haunter, a ghost, rolls a special 10 sided die which is impossible to braille because it is diamond shaped and the print numbers are very very small. Too small to braille the numbers 1 through 10 and stick them on it. I'm sure this isn't the only board game out there where you need something other than the standard six sided dice, but the only dice I can get from Independent Living Aids is the standard dice. Like many I've made do with bringing my laptop along and using the GMA Dice program when it is my turn to roll, but that isn't as fun as taking the dice and rolling it physically. Not to mention dragging my laptop around is much more cumbersome when I could just carry a few braille die in my pocket for such occasions. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Decota. Sadly not that I've heard. a few years ago, I tried to persuade the rnib to produce gaming dice on the basis that with gaming dice and access to a manual (and often not even that), blind people could be totally equal in the tabletop gaming sphere, but they flat out told me most of our members wouldn't be interested in this ie, the rnib's usual thinking that anyone who is under 60 and won't leve them money in their will doesn't exist. When i first started playing dD, we got a large size set of standard dice, and sticking braille lables on worked with most of them, but not with the d20 since the surfaces were just too small to take numbers (heck, we couldn't fit double didgits onto the d10). Though i have used Gma dice every week for several years playing our mutants and masterminds campeigne, I completely agree on the moree viseral and practial feeling of physically rolling dice, so I would certainly love a set of tactile gaming dice, though whether any company would wish to produce these I don't know. it's a shame really, since they'd be really quite easy to make. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Folks, Dana Jorgensen tried to make gaming dice through KickStarter but was unsuccessful $3,543 was pledged of $11,000 goal http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/592087154/braille-dice --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
A huge huge thanks Raul. Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week. -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:05 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings? Hello Dark, Sarah, Charles, and anyone else interested. First off, if anyone has my recordings, please feel free to share whenever and with whomever you wish. That being said, I'm uploading the files to my server space now. I thought I had, but obviously I don't pay that much attention to my site like I used to. The link to get them is http://asmodean.net/games. Also, the few podcasts I've recorded recently in the last year or so can be found at http://asmodean.net/podcasts. That second page doesn't have an index page, so it's not pretty. Meaning it's just the links to the files themselves, but with a little tweaking I can probably bang up a quick index file. Since the files are still uploading as I write this, if you go and check like right now, things will not be there. However if you are reading this several hours later, then perhaps things will be there. One thing which I used to have for the Shades of Doom walkthrough is 3 versions. mp3, ogg, and wma. I'm doing away with the ogg and wma and just leaving the mp3 files there as one zip. I thought about breaking them down to the individual mp3 files like GTC, but right now that's too much work for a Friday night when I'd rather be sitting on my couch with my hand down Sorry, was thinking of the Bruno Mars song, The Lazy Song. Anyway, if there is enough interest, I'll update things more often. Thanks much. -- Raul A. Gallegos Harry Potter brand condoms: Protect your slytherin from Hogwarts while you're in her chamber of secrets. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 4/19/2013 6:34 PM, dark wrote: Hi. I have his faull walkthrus for superliam, Shades, gma tank commander, pipe2, hunter and the 17 original lone wolf missions. I'm at my parents right now, while the walkthrus are on my laptop back in my flat where I will be on thursday, but if nobody has found them by then I can always bang them on sendspace. i will say though that it would be great if raul could still host these himself, as well as his storm8 podcasts. i really like raul's reviews and walkthroughs, they're clear, well explained and he's got a wonderfully casual manner making them great to listen to so it'd be a shame both if his past ones vanished, and also if he didn't do anymore. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
Keep in mind that the messages you send are a reflection on you. An attempt at being correct means that you care. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing Just ignore my last 2 messages on this topic. I was going 2 b nice about it but after hearing the last 2 or 3 messages and how nasty they were well I think I'm going 2 do just what I've been doing. May b if u weren't so nasty than I would change my messages, but if u don't like the way I type then don't read the messages I send. James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
The only physical dice I have worked with are the traditional 6-sided variety. They have holes to determine the number. Don't these other gaming dice? If so, no modification would be necessary. I would think that there would be just as much need for accessible dice as there is for those that are not accessible. Blind people are no different than sighted people except that our eyes don't give feedback. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Does anyone have Rauls game recordings?
Hi Raul, yes, the site works fine. Thanks again. *smiles* Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Charles, No. When you get into special gaming dice such as the d20 dice used in Dungeons and Dragons they don't have the little holes or indention's found on your typical dice for Monopoly etc. The special gaming die such as the d10 and d20 have the print numbers 1 through 10 or 1 through 20 printed on the dice. Often you can't feel the print number and the general size and shape of the dice makes it difficult if not impossible to braille them. Usually the more sides the dice has on it the smaller the numbers are to see. For example, I have here a 10 sided die and a 20 sided die. Both are slightly larger than a standard set of playing dice but are obviously a lot different in over all shape. The 10 sided dice is diamond shaped, and the 20 sided dice is almost round accept it is flat everywhere there is a number. Not sure what shape you would call it, but the over all size and shape of the places where the numbers are printed are so small that braille labels wouldn't fit. There are also other special kinds of dice with pictures on them. I have a board game with pictures of skulls, swords, and things like that on the dice which are specific to that game. That raises the question of how to properly label a picture when a skull and a sword both start with the letter s, and you need to come up with something a bit more creative to represent those pictures and makes sense. Point being that the standard six sided dice you are thinking of isn't all there is to gaming dice by a long shot. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only physical dice I have worked with are the traditional 6-sided variety. They have holes to determine the number. Don't these other gaming dice? If so, no modification would be necessary. I would think that there would be just as much need for accessible dice as there is for those that are not accessible. Blind people are no different than sighted people except that our eyes don't give feedback. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
hI there I don't know if they make any but I shore would like a pair myself.My family and I play board games all the time and it would b nice 2 b able 2 play whith out asking what I just rolled. So if u make a pair let me know. Bfn James -Original Message- From: Dakotah Rickard [mailto:dakotah.rick...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi folks. I have a couple of questions for you. First, are there any startups or established concerns out there to produce gaming dice for we blind individuals? I don't mean six-sided jobbies. I mean fours, eights, tens, twenties, percentiles... stuff like that. Are any people or companies making dice that we can read? I ask that for two separate and distinct reasons. The first is that I want to know. Everyone around me has a set of gaming dice, and while I certainly appreciate GMADice and others for my computer, GamerKit and others for my iPhone, so forth and so on, I'd really rather have my own set of shake 'em and roll 'em dice. It makes the game much more visceral, and I think that's important. The second reason is this. If nobody is aking dice, I want to know the demand here and elsewhere for those dice. I want people to spread the word. Ask their gamer buddies. Please, tell me if it's worth the time and effort to make them, because I'd be interested in trying. I have the means and the resources, with your committed support and encouragement, if it's something you guys want. Thanks for reading, and keep on rolling. Signed: Dakotah Rickard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hmm. Texturing would not work, nor would raised illustrations of a sword, skull, or what the picture is. They would be too small to be recognized by touch.And with a 20-sided dye, touching it would probably roll it due to the size of each flat surface. Increasing the size to make it accessible would not be an option. An interesting puzzler. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice Hi Charles, No. When you get into special gaming dice such as the d20 dice used in Dungeons and Dragons they don't have the little holes or indention's found on your typical dice for Monopoly etc. The special gaming die such as the d10 and d20 have the print numbers 1 through 10 or 1 through 20 printed on the dice. Often you can't feel the print number and the general size and shape of the dice makes it difficult if not impossible to braille them. Usually the more sides the dice has on it the smaller the numbers are to see. For example, I have here a 10 sided die and a 20 sided die. Both are slightly larger than a standard set of playing dice but are obviously a lot different in over all shape. The 10 sided dice is diamond shaped, and the 20 sided dice is almost round accept it is flat everywhere there is a number. Not sure what shape you would call it, but the over all size and shape of the places where the numbers are printed are so small that braille labels wouldn't fit. There are also other special kinds of dice with pictures on them. I have a board game with pictures of skulls, swords, and things like that on the dice which are specific to that game. That raises the question of how to properly label a picture when a skull and a sword both start with the letter s, and you need to come up with something a bit more creative to represent those pictures and makes sense. Point being that the standard six sided dice you are thinking of isn't all there is to gaming dice by a long shot. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: The only physical dice I have worked with are the traditional 6-sided variety. They have holes to determine the number. Don't these other gaming dice? If so, no modification would be necessary. I would think that there would be just as much need for accessible dice as there is for those that are not accessible. Blind people are no different than sighted people except that our eyes don't give feedback. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] JFW Hangman.
Des anyone know where yo ucan get jFW Hangman from? What is the download link? i have searched and can't find that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
I think that would be excelent, I would be interested in that Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Yeah really. The Super Nintendo Lord of the Rings game was really nothing more tan a long series of fetch quests. First you had to go fetch Pippin from a wolf-infested plain after he tried to go fishing. Thhen you had to go find Sam's gaffer's glasses in order for Sam to oin you. And that was pretty much te whole game. You even had to find a series of six amulets in order to enter Rivendell, then a buch of gems to open the entrance to Moria. Needless to say, not very accurate. I do own the game but onl for its generally excellent soundtrack. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
I would be interested in a side scroler lotr mines of moriea game. since that is my fave seen in the movie the seen with gandalf fighting the balrog. from Mich. - Original Message - From: amanda burt aburt...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format I think that would be excelent, I would be interested in that Amanda -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:32 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
I'm not trying 2 b nasty but I've been on this list 4 like 5 or 6 months now and this is the 1st time that it is a problem, and if it is realy that big of a deal that people can call me lazy over it when they don't even know the 1st thing about me and just want 2 judge me over my grammer. Then I'll just remove myself from the list. This is not the only list that I belong 2. I thought this was a website 4 games not on English grammer. I had a nuff of being picked on in school 4 my spelling and grammer that I don't need the name calling here. Good bye and good ridands James -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard [mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing Keep in mind that the messages you send are a reflection on you. An attempt at being correct means that you care. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing Just ignore my last 2 messages on this topic. I was going 2 b nice about it but after hearing the last 2 or 3 messages and how nasty they were well I think I'm going 2 do just what I've been doing. May b if u weren't so nasty than I would change my messages, but if u don't like the way I type then don't read the messages I send. James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Complete with Tolkeens? -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] JFW Hangman.
You have asked before, and I still don't. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Nicole white bookworm.nic...@gmail.com To: Games list\ gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: [Audyssey] JFW Hangman. Des anyone know where yo ucan get jFW Hangman from? What is the download link? i have searched and can't find that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Charles, You are beginning to see the problem. The dice would have to be made from scratch with the blind in mind and like the standard gaming dice the braille 10 and 20 sided dice would have to be larger than their print counterparts in order to accommodate the braille numbers. There are even d100 dice that are huge in terms of print dice, and would really have to be big to fit braille on them. :D As far as picture dice I have only encountered that sort of thing in one game, and it was a standard six sided dice so I could braille them. What I did is use the letter l for a sword, since it was kind of sword shaped, and I used the o w contraction and o together to make a circle for the skulls. The blank sides I left blank. Basically, instead of using a letter for each picture I tried to recreate that picture in braille, and it worked out well for that game. Well, there is one other game with a picture on it and it is the Lord of the Rings Monopoly, but it was easy to adapt. The set of dice has an eye that comes up now and then which is used to move the ring one space towards Mount Doom. However, since the dice with the eye on it feels different from the regular dice I can feel it when it comes up. I labeled all the numbers 1 through 6 on the dice but left the eye blank since it is the only picture I need to worry about in that particular game. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Hmm. Texturing would not work, nor would raised illustrations of a sword, skull, or what the picture is. They would be too small to be recognized by touch.And with a 20-sided dye, touching it would probably roll it due to the size of each flat surface. Increasing the size to make it accessible would not be an option. An interesting puzzler. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Moderator Close Topic Numbers in Emails
Hello all, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators I ask that you guys please close this thread down. James does have a point. As I have said before if you have a problem with someone's spelling, grammar, etc you should approach that person off list and ask them nicely if they would proofread their posts rather than dragging this issue up time and again on list. While I understand that it would be nice if we all would use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation this list is a casual list for gaming and not a list of English majors. So please close the topic, and stop arguing over someones posts. Thanks. On 4/20/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not trying 2 b nasty but I've been on this list 4 like 5 or 6 months now and this is the 1st time that it is a problem, and if it is realy that big of a deal that people can call me lazy over it when they don't even know the 1st thing about me and just want 2 judge me over my grammer. Then I'll just remove myself from the list. This is not the only list that I belong 2. I thought this was a website 4 games not on English grammer. I had a nuff of being picked on in school 4 my spelling and grammer that I don't need the name calling here. Good bye and good ridands James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] JFW Hangman.
Hi Nicole, I don't want to be rude, but this is the third time I've seen you ask this question on list. I am afraid nobody here knows the answer to your question and asking two or three times is not going to make people answer your question when they themselves don't know. Have you by chance gone to http://www.audiogames.net and seen what Hangman games are in the database. It would certainly be more productive than asking and reasking the same question over and over again. Thanks. On 4/20/13, Nicole white bookworm.nic...@gmail.com wrote: Des anyone know where yo ucan get jFW Hangman from? What is the download link? i have searched and can't find that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi Charles, Complete with what? I'm afraid I didn't quite get what you were asking. If you mean complete with game tokens the answer would be yes. My LOTR Monopoly set has a number of pieces of Gandolf, Aragorn, and all the rest of the main characters so if I converted the game into an electronic computer game you could pick any of the main tokens and play using them. The chance cards and so forth would be adjusted to match the actual LOTR game as well. Unlike Jim's Monopoly which is a generic game engine mine would be specifically written to be in keeping with the LOTR Monopoly set which is slightly different from regular Monopoly. To give you an example with regular Monopoly you buy houses and hotels. In LOTR Monopoly you build towers and fortresses. Instead of a chance card saying assessed for road work pay $50 for each house you own and $150 for each hotel a chance card might read attacked by orcs. Pay 50 gold to repair each tower you own and 150 gold for each fortress. Same idea, but definitely more specific to LOTR. Interesting enough there is an extra token in LOTR Monopoly not found in the standard Monopoly game. This is the ring itself. If put into play every time the Eye of Sauron comes up the ring moves one space towards Mount Doom. If the ring lands on Mount Doom the game effectively ends and the person with the most amount wins the game regardless if he or she has achieved monopoly. It is special rules like this that Jim's Monopoly doesn't currently support, and i could support it if I wrote a LOTR Monopoly game for the PC. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Complete with Tolkeens? -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi Bryan, That's why I pointed out a game would do better to pick one aspect of the books/movies such as the Mines of Moria or something else rather than attempting to squeeze everything from Fellowship of the Ring to Return of the King into one game. It can't sanely be done, and even if a person tries they end up just sticking to battles rather than side quests and such. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Yeah really. The Super Nintendo Lord of the Rings game was really nothing more tan a long series of fetch quests. First you had to go fetch Pippin from a wolf-infested plain after he tried to go fishing. Thhen you had to go find Sam's gaffer's glasses in order for Sam to oin you. And that was pretty much te whole game. You even had to find a series of six amulets in order to enter Rivendell, then a buch of gems to open the entrance to Moria. Needless to say, not very accurate. I do own the game but onl for its generally excellent soundtrack. But thou must! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Actually from what I recall the game War in Middle-Earth worked out qite well. My brother used to have it. Sure there were deviations but they obviously tried to stay faithful to the books. Then again I suppose that was more of a strategy game. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 12:29 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Bryan, That's why I pointed out a game would do better to pick one aspect of the books/movies such as the Mines of Moria or something else rather than attempting to squeeze everything from Fellowship of the Ring to Return of the King into one game. It can't sanely be done, and even if a person tries they end up just sticking to battles rather than side quests and such. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Yeah really. The Super Nintendo Lord of the Rings game was really nothing more tan a long series of fetch quests. First you had to go fetch Pippin from a wolf-infested plain after he tried to go fishing. Thhen you had to go find Sam's gaffer's glasses in order for Sam to oin you. And that was pretty much te whole game. You even had to find a series of six amulets in order to enter Rivendell, then a buch of gems to open the entrance to Moria. Needless to say, not very accurate. I do own the game but onl for its generally excellent soundtrack. But thou must! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
I spelled the author's name wrong. It was word play on tokens. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, Complete with what? I'm afraid I didn't quite get what you were asking. If you mean complete with game tokens the answer would be yes. My LOTR Monopoly set has a number of pieces of Gandolf, Aragorn, and all the rest of the main characters so if I converted the game into an electronic computer game you could pick any of the main tokens and play using them. The chance cards and so forth would be adjusted to match the actual LOTR game as well. Unlike Jim's Monopoly which is a generic game engine mine would be specifically written to be in keeping with the LOTR Monopoly set which is slightly different from regular Monopoly. To give you an example with regular Monopoly you buy houses and hotels. In LOTR Monopoly you build towers and fortresses. Instead of a chance card saying assessed for road work pay $50 for each house you own and $150 for each hotel a chance card might read attacked by orcs. Pay 50 gold to repair each tower you own and 150 gold for each fortress. Same idea, but definitely more specific to LOTR. Interesting enough there is an extra token in LOTR Monopoly not found in the standard Monopoly game. This is the ring itself. If put into play every time the Eye of Sauron comes up the ring moves one space towards Mount Doom. If the ring lands on Mount Doom the game effectively ends and the person with the most amount wins the game regardless if he or she has achieved monopoly. It is special rules like this that Jim's Monopoly doesn't currently support, and i could support it if I wrote a LOTR Monopoly game for the PC. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Complete with Tolkeens? -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BSC Pipe games are the accessible Pipe Dreams games.
Hello, All. I have been playing the Pipe games from BSC, and while I was playing them I began to remember about how there was some computer games in the early ninetys called Pipe Dreams. The only difference between the two games is in Pipe Dreams you didn't play as a character, you just go through a list of pipes to fit the right one. Instead of water you had this green ooze that you had to keep in the pipes. However the gameplay was the same as the Pipe games from BSC, where you have to fit the pipes to get the liquid to the end of each board. After playing both games I like the BSC's version of Pipe, because first of the character and cut scenes. Some of you might have never heard of Pipe Dreams, but I remember it was on the earlier versions of Windows. Oh if I remember you had to use the mouse instead of the keyboard. It was fun and it was very challenging, but I got very far in the game. I believe that it spawn a series of games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Close Topic Numbers in Emails
Hello! I know we are not supposed to say anything and I don't participate in the lists so much these days, but it is very important that people realize that grammar is not wrong just because someone is lazy or can't do well. OK? It is not true that everyone's first language is English, so they might make mistakes because they are learning! Some parts of world have little different ways of writing stuff in English than America. For example, in Britain, people don't say, Do you have the grammar skills?, they say, Have you the grammar skills? and if you guys mind that then I am off. Some people don't write because they just can't. Some people who can't master the skills as well as you might does not mean, that they are lazy. I am not trying to be rude or mean here, I am just trying to say, that there are many reasons why people's grammar isn't right. YOu will find many mistakes in my emails, because English is not my first language, technically, and I am running the spell checker, so nobody picks on me. Thank you very much and many apologies to the moderators. I am just trying to say the truth, not being mean or bad. Sorry if I am. Thank you very much for reading and understanding. On 4/20/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, On behalf of the Audyssey moderators I ask that you guys please close this thread down. James does have a point. As I have said before if you have a problem with someone's spelling, grammar, etc you should approach that person off list and ask them nicely if they would proofread their posts rather than dragging this issue up time and again on list. While I understand that it would be nice if we all would use proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation this list is a casual list for gaming and not a list of English majors. So please close the topic, and stop arguing over someones posts. Thanks. On 4/20/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not trying 2 b nasty but I've been on this list 4 like 5 or 6 months now and this is the 1st time that it is a problem, and if it is realy that big of a deal that people can call me lazy over it when they don't even know the 1st thing about me and just want 2 judge me over my grammer. Then I'll just remove myself from the list. This is not the only list that I belong 2. I thought this was a website 4 games not on English grammer. I had a nuff of being picked on in school 4 my spelling and grammer that I don't need the name calling here. Good bye and good ridands James --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Important quotes that people need to read and understand: “JUST BECAUSE A MAN LACKS THE USE OF HIS EYES DOESN’T MEAN HE LACKS VISION!! By STEVIE WONDER Just BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOESN't MEAN YOU CAN'T HEAR AND THINK!! By STEVIE WONDER Nimit More ways to contact me: kaur.ni...@gmail.com kaur.ni...@hotmail.com Have a nice day, night, evening depending on where you are in the world! Thank you for reading my email. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi all. I for one would like to see worner broes taken to cort but not over a audio game of lotr but for not putting audio discription on any of there dvd's hear in Canada but putting audio discription on the dvd's in the uk. argo and the hobbett are 2 examples where the uk has discription but canada and the us don't. but seeing as this is not game related I will stop now lol but seeing dark's msg about tom sticking his neck out for the rest of us blind gamers over wanting to make a lotr game and hearing worner broes name made me think of this. from Mich. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi charlse. I agree, indeed I did think such a defense was likely in a previous male, and I doubt that someone like warner brothers would want the bad publicity of being taken to court over such an access matter, especially when the actual prophit! they were talking about would be less than 0.1 percent of one of their big graphical titles. still, it's tom who'd be sticking his kneck out on this one, which is why i think donation is a safe bet. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] JFW Hangman.
Hello Nicol. You have asked this question like three times, and it is getting annoying -Original Message- From: Nicole white Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:35 AM To: Games list\ Subject: [Audyssey] JFW Hangman. Des anyone know where yo ucan get jFW Hangman from? What is the download link? i have searched and can't find that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Never heard of a Hobbett. LOL. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi all. I for one would like to see worner broes taken to cort but not over a audio game of lotr but for not putting audio discription on any of there dvd's hear in Canada but putting audio discription on the dvd's in the uk. argo and the hobbett are 2 examples where the uk has discription but canada and the us don't. but seeing as this is not game related I will stop now lol but seeing dark's msg about tom sticking his neck out for the rest of us blind gamers over wanting to make a lotr game and hearing worner broes name made me think of this. from Mich. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi charlse. I agree, indeed I did think such a defense was likely in a previous male, and I doubt that someone like warner brothers would want the bad publicity of being taken to court over such an access matter, especially when the actual prophit! they were talking about would be less than 0.1 percent of one of their big graphical titles. still, it's tom who'd be sticking his kneck out on this one, which is why i think donation is a safe bet. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Pipe games are the accessible Pipe Dreams games.
Hi Michael, I do vaguely remember the Pipe Dream game you are talking about. I know I had it and played it on my IBM Aptiva running Windows 95 once and a while.. I agree BSC's take on that game is slightly better from an over all design aspect. Cheers! On 4/20/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, All. I have been playing the Pipe games from BSC, and while I was playing them I began to remember about how there was some computer games in the early ninetys called Pipe Dreams. The only difference between the two games is in Pipe Dreams you didn't play as a character, you just go through a list of pipes to fit the right one. Instead of water you had this green ooze that you had to keep in the pipes. However the gameplay was the same as the Pipe games from BSC, where you have to fit the pipes to get the liquid to the end of each board. After playing both games I like the BSC's version of Pipe, because first of the character and cut scenes. Some of you might have never heard of Pipe Dreams, but I remember it was on the earlier versions of Windows. Oh if I remember you had to use the mouse instead of the keyboard. It was fun and it was very challenging, but I got very far in the game. I believe that it spawn a series of games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
lol I ment a hobet. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Never heard of a Hobbett. LOL. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi all. I for one would like to see worner broes taken to cort but not over a audio game of lotr but for not putting audio discription on any of there dvd's hear in Canada but putting audio discription on the dvd's in the uk. argo and the hobbett are 2 examples where the uk has discription but canada and the us don't. but seeing as this is not game related I will stop now lol but seeing dark's msg about tom sticking his neck out for the rest of us blind gamers over wanting to make a lotr game and hearing worner broes name made me think of this. from Mich. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi charlse. I agree, indeed I did think such a defense was likely in a previous male, and I doubt that someone like warner brothers would want the bad publicity of being taken to court over such an access matter, especially when the actual prophit! they were talking about would be less than 0.1 percent of one of their big graphical titles. still, it's tom who'd be sticking his kneck out on this one, which is why i think donation is a safe bet. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi Mich, Actually, you are still wrong. It is spelled Hobbit not Hobet. :D Cheers! On 4/20/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote: lol I ment a hobet. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Charles, the key generator is worth many times more than $75. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: If the key generator is worth $75 when considering the time and effort that went into creating it, I would pay the $75 for the key generator. The way his announcement was worded, though, was that you must buy everything for 1 flat fee, which is what is bothering some people. And, as Thomas Ward has pointed out, the software that keys are generated for may not work on platforms produced in the near future, so there goes your $75, because the software you bought is no longer supported. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. I said that because Brian, and others, are saying that want to be able to only buy generators for the games they already own, and not for those they don't care about. This means Justin would have to create generators for each game individually that don't currently exist to accommodate these people. Instead, Justin's selling the program which allows the generation of all keys. A program which he already has and has been in use for years. That is the smart, and the sane, thing to do. In the end, you're right about the discussion being futile…people want what they want, whether it makes any sense or is possible. And if it isn't possible, they'll want someone to blame, whether that blame is warranted or not. On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, but you just said something about him creating multiple key generators. Now I'm confused. Either way, it's not a smart business tactic. Will that change the way it's being handled? I don't think so. Will it change anyone's opinion who's disagreeing? I doubt that, too. I have a feeling we could probably all go back and forth about this all day, but in the end, that $75 will be the end result whether we like it or not. On 4/18/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Most developers have a single key generation app that handles all the different systems and generating keys for them. If you read Justin's post, he says you are getting the key generator program, singular. But I'm feeling like I'm the only person who actually read his post. LOL On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Why would he have to write separate keygens for each program, though? The classic pipe and Troopanum games used the same system. There's one down. Pipe and Troopanum2 used another one. I'm not sure what kind of system the word games used, having never bought them, but since they were released around the same time as the classics, I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that they used that first system. Thus, only two keygen programs would really need to be created. I would gladly pay for two keygens. And, I personally think that the games and software packages should be split up, at the very least. Some people may not want the software, or some may not want the games. They really are two separate entities. On 4/18/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: So, what you're saying, is you want Justin to devote time and effort to write brand-new, individual key generators for each and every title, sell them off piece meal, and charge full price for them? Wow. In the example… Buying the individual films you want at full price would cost almost twice as much. You have some strange logic there. Most people prefer to spend less. :) On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Or you can just buy the individual films you want once and have done. That's the whole point. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Draconis Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. Several people are still saying they are being forced to repurchase games they already own. So, let me break this down into an example that may help with those missing the point. There are 8 Harry Potter films. If we say the average price of these eon DVD is $20, for the sake of argument, the total cost of buying each film individually would be $160. You've already bought films 1 and 2 on DVD for $40. But now, Warner Brothers is offering a box set of all 8 films on DVD for the unbelievable price of $40! That's 1/4 the cost. And let's say, you didn't like Prisoner of Azkaban, so never really planned on buying that one. You can buy the box set, and still come out $60 ahead, or you can be
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Hi I'm still using xp and I have blast chamber, classic Pipe and Hunter all 3 installed. My mom bought them for me for my birthday back in 2008. - Original Message - From: Draconis i...@dracoent.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. I know I said I was done, but have to address one more thing… Seriously folks…this conversation has devolved to trying to say that the $75 is wasted when Microsoft inevitably upgrades beyond the point where the games will run In that case, why ever buy any game ever? It won't run someday…it's just a matter of time. That aside, the games work through Windows 7 as far as I am aware…perhaps Windows 8. How many of you are still on Windows XP? Just because Microsoft stops supporting some of this stuff, doesn't mean you're all running out and getting a new computer. The visually impaired community only moves on to the next version of the OS begrudgingly, and usually long after much of the mainstream world has moved on. This is a problem that won't effect most of you for another 5 to 10 years or more if the community's past tendencies don't change radically. Are you seriously saying that $75 is too much to pay for a decades worth of continued enjoyment? Just trying to put this thing into perspective. Saying that the $75 is straight down the toilet as Brian put it, if Microsoft's next Window sup date doesn't support these games, is hyperbole to the extreme. :) On Apr 18, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: The problem is I think the wording in Justin's message may have confused most of us, me included. But there's still te concern of what happens when Microsoft advances tote point that the games no longer run on newer operating systems. That's 75 bucks straight down the toilet. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:13 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. Hi Josh, FWIW I also read it that way. It's one key generator, and you use it to generate keys for 1 or all titles. It doesn't mean you are paying over for a title or 2 which you may have purchased years ago, but for the ability to generate keys for your own personal use. To anyone else who is reading my message, I also think that those who are offering to generate keys for $20 or whatever are taking advantage, and I'm not sure how legal or ethical that really is, but it's expected that this key generator will be pirated anyway, so I don't see why we have to continue beating a dead horse on this topic. Also, while I'm sure the list owners like a lively discussion about anything game related, there are some people who see things one way, and others on the completely opposite view of it. So, to each his/her own, right? PS, should I get royalties because it's my demo which is included in the Pipe2 game? smile. -- Raul A. Gallegos I didn't slap you, I simply high fived your face. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 4/18/2013 3:36 PM, Draconis wrote: Most developers have a single key generation app that handles all the different systems and generating keys for them. If you read Justin's post, he says you are getting the key generator program, singular. But I'm feeling like I'm the only person who actually read his post. LOL On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Why would he have to write separate keygens for each program, though? The classic pipe and Troopanum games used the same system. There's one down. Pipe and Troopanum2 used another one. I'm not sure what kind of system the word games used, having never bought them, but since they were released around the same time as the classics, I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that they used that first system. Thus, only two keygen programs would really need to be created. I would gladly pay for two keygens. And, I personally think that the games and software packages should be split up, at the very least. Some people may not want the software, or some may not want the games. They really are two separate entities. On 4/18/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: So, what you're saying, is you want Justin to devote time and effort to write brand-new, individual key generators for each and every title, sell them off piece meal, and charge full price for them? Wow. In the example… Buying the individual films you want at full price would cost almost twice as much. You have some strange logic there. Most people prefer to spend less. :) On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Or you can just buy the individual films you want once and have done. That's the whole point. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Draconis Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:02 PM To:
Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Well, the OCR process ran through, but, didn't return perfectly clean results, but, it's a free bit of software, so let's see... Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format tahnks will go take a look. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format On this page, they list/offer 4 sort of real interactive fiction narnia eBooks, but, they seem to be scanned page PDF files, inside zip files, and am busy running one of them through PDF2TXT's OCR functionality to see if it's readable/usable at all, but, would also assume/expect that there would be some actual infocom/glulx interactive fiction games out there based on the world of narnia, as such - but anyway: http://www.abandonia.com/fr/gamebooks Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format NOw i wish i was a programer i'd make a narnia game for us and a game based on watership down by richard adams, if there is one tell me someone please. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format Those who think that The Chronicles of Narnia are Satanic or anti Christian have never read them. Same for the Christians who will have nothing to do with the Harry Potter series because the series deals with magic and witches and wizards. They believe what others have told them rather than firsthand knowledge. As for Narnia games, I'll bet there are some, but none designed or playable by the blind gamer. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! - Original Message - From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format And i got myself in to strife for mentioning the chronicles of narnia purely bvecause one person thought those books evil because they were fantasy and she doesn't believe that fantasy should be read due to her religion now getting back to games are their any games based on the narnia books, similar to sara based on harry potter. Lisa Hayes www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Dark, Yeah, seriously. There were Christian publications that actually stated He-Man was satanic and urging Christian moms and dads not to let their kids watch it during the early 1980's when the show was originally aired. As incredible as that sounds to me today it actually happened. However, one must keep in mind the mindset of the readers and writers here. One of the main characters of the show, Evil Lyn, was a sorceress who could wield powerful dark magic as could Skeletor. On the flip side the Sorceress of Grayskull also could wield white magic to combat the villains, and He-Man did not derive his power from God but from a magic sword. Since in the mind of many Christians all magic is evil, satanic there is no such thing as white magic and dark magic. In their opinion all magic is evil, and the authors of such publications objected to witchcraft etc being practiced on TV for their children's entertainment. Plus I guess the idea of the hero, He-Man, getting his powers from a magic sword instead of God was pretty objectionable as well. It is basically the same argument leveled against Harry Potter and other such popular series. Any time there is a popular series be it He-Man or Harry Potter with magic involved there are people in America from the Christian Right who will get on TV or write articles in some publication or other asking for censorship of the content based on their religious views. In fact, it doesn't even have to involve magic per say. I heard of a case where some Christian publication claimed that Darth Mahl was suppose to represent Satan in the Phantom Menace which was totally off the mark. I am pointing this out only to state that rating a
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Actually you're not forced to buy anything. Don't want it? -Just don't buy it. :) Nobody's forcing you to do anything. Sorry for being so glib, and I definitely do understand people's worry about the future of these games that mean a lot. -but please, can we kind of turn this ship around a bit and be constructive even if we disagree? There's still a month left before the company goes away. Surely we can come up with some situation so that this legacy can be at the very least preserved, or better still, be kept alive. I'm waiting for a note back. Perhaps more of us might want to approach Justin or maybe we could suggest the idea of making the support of these games a community-run project. Either way, we do have time and options… Thanks, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 18, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: It's only natural. Why should we basically be forced to buy a bunchof extra stuff in addition to what we actually want, some of which I need hardly point out was free to begin with? But thou must! -Original Message- From: Draconis Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. I said that because Brian, and others, are saying that want to be able to only buy generators for the games they already own, and not for those they don't care about. This means Justin would have to create generators for each game individually that don't currently exist to accommodate these people. Instead, Justin's selling the program which allows the generation of all keys. A program which he already has and has been in use for years. That is the smart, and the sane, thing to do. In the end, you're right about the discussion being futile…people want what they want, whether it makes any sense or is possible. And if it isn't possible, they'll want someone to blame, whether that blame is warranted or not. On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, but you just said something about him creating multiple key generators. Now I'm confused. Either way, it's not a smart business tactic. Will that change the way it's being handled? I don't think so. Will it change anyone's opinion who's disagreeing? I doubt that, too. I have a feeling we could probably all go back and forth about this all day, but in the end, that $75 will be the end result whether we like it or not. On 4/18/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: Most developers have a single key generation app that handles all the different systems and generating keys for them. If you read Justin's post, he says you are getting the key generator program, singular. But I'm feeling like I'm the only person who actually read his post. LOL On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Why would he have to write separate keygens for each program, though? The classic pipe and Troopanum games used the same system. There's one down. Pipe and Troopanum2 used another one. I'm not sure what kind of system the word games used, having never bought them, but since they were released around the same time as the classics, I'm going to assume, perhaps wrongly, that they used that first system. Thus, only two keygen programs would really need to be created. I would gladly pay for two keygens. And, I personally think that the games and software packages should be split up, at the very least. Some people may not want the software, or some may not want the games. They really are two separate entities. On 4/18/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: So, what you're saying, is you want Justin to devote time and effort to write brand-new, individual key generators for each and every title, sell them off piece meal, and charge full price for them? Wow. In the example… Buying the individual films you want at full price would cost almost twice as much. You have some strange logic there. Most people prefer to spend less. :) On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Or you can just buy the individual films you want once and have done. That's the whole point. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Draconis Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:02 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. Several people are still saying they are being forced to repurchase games they already own. So, let me break this down into an example that may help with those missing the point. There are 8 Harry Potter films. If we say the average price of these eon DVD is $20, for the sake of argument, the total cost of buying each film individually would be $160. You've already bought films 1 and 2 on DVD for $40. But now, Warner
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
A Hobbit? LOL. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 3:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games lol I ment a hobet. from Mich. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Never heard of a Hobbett. LOL. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Mich Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi all. I for one would like to see worner broes taken to cort but not over a audio game of lotr but for not putting audio discription on any of there dvd's hear in Canada but putting audio discription on the dvd's in the uk. argo and the hobbett are 2 examples where the uk has discription but canada and the us don't. but seeing as this is not game related I will stop now lol but seeing dark's msg about tom sticking his neck out for the rest of us blind gamers over wanting to make a lotr game and hearing worner broes name made me think of this. from Mich. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games Hi charlse. I agree, indeed I did think such a defense was likely in a previous male, and I doubt that someone like warner brothers would want the bad publicity of being taken to court over such an access matter, especially when the actual prophit! they were talking about would be less than 0.1 percent of one of their big graphical titles. still, it's tom who'd be sticking his kneck out on this one, which is why i think donation is a safe bet. Beware the grue! dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Hi Shaun, Glad to hear that. Tell you what. I'll write you off list about this subject and we willsee if you can arrange for a download so Audyssey can upload and share these games when Blindsoftware.com goes out of business. Cheers! On 4/19/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well if you are meaning the community project, I am willing to allow full access to the community after blindsoftware closes. I have payed the 75 bucks us for the games. now if justin wants to charge a bit for the source, there is that much less for the community to fork. I am perfectly happy to do this. reguardless of this I plan to share with those that ask after 15th, however I would be interested in a community project. we really do need projects to pull the community together, this is surely the next step, we have all seen what eventually will happen to single developers, and it may be time to start moving as a group on things. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
I think we might have a bigger problem on our hands. I read in the audiogames.net forum that some people actually bought this new package and got a partially strange order confirmation mail, but no further messages in which the key generator is included or linked to. And since the current blindsoftware.com site doesn't host the old free BSC titles which are part of that bonus offer except 15 Numbers, we might have found a problem. Does anyone actually have that key generator already or more important, does anyone know if the Boston situation could have messed up things for Justin or his company or the service SWREG which is used for actually ordering that package? - Original Message - From: Cara Quinn caraqu...@caraquinn.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions. Actually you're not forced to buy anything. Don't want it? -Just don't buy it. :) Nobody's forcing you to do anything. Sorry for being so glib, and I definitely do understand people's worry about the future of these games that mean a lot. -but please, can we kind of turn this ship around a bit and be constructive even if we disagree? There's still a month left before the company goes away. Surely we can come up with some situation so that this legacy can be at the very least preserved, or better still, be kept alive. I'm waiting for a note back. Perhaps more of us might want to approach Justin or maybe we could suggest the idea of making the support of these games a community-run project. Either way, we do have time and options… Thanks, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi tom. would that game be talisman? my brother is an avid player, but sadly there is no accessible version. As regards the rnib, well I think at least with the rnib there is considderably more involved than simply appealing to the lowest common denominator. All their publications, magazines etc, are aimed at older generations (you can get all the braille knitting patterns you want), and whenever I've been on an info day they do an hour and a half of what is tantamount to brain washing about donations from people in their wills and how much they want such donations, not to mention radio and tv adverts all aimed at older people, their latest slogan, rnib spotting the signs of site loss for over fifties is a case in point, as well as a rather amusing tortology. I have also noticed that my efforts over the years to get Rnib to do anything not! aimed at over sixties has been fruiteless, whether that is reccording more accessible books in sf and fantasy genres, our members don't like those is what I was told getting them to produce braile gamebooks or rpg manuals, or indeed getting them to promote audio games at all other than the azabat ones our members prefer simple games and don't have the tech skills is what I was told. Frankly, there is something of a conspiracy going on with the Rnib to sucker people's investments, not to mention gain government grants for services which should! be health services anyway, (charity my arse), but that is a subject for another mail. Suffice it to say that for getting accessible gaming dice, you'd be better off heading into the woods, picking up sticks and taking the time to calve them yourself, than trying to get any practical aide out of the Rnib. Myself, if a company were! to do this, I'd be looking for someone a little more friendly to access to younger blind people, rather than someone like Rnib. As you said yourself, it's not a complicated thing, indeed I'd be tempted to contact the manufacturers of rp supplies (after all they can only say no), since I have far more confidence in them than someone like Rnib or the companies they deal with. of course however, it might be that access creation aide companies in countries other than the Uk are a little better on this front, since I do know the Uk's general attitude and that of the Rnib in particular isn't particularly great when compared to places over seas anyway, and doubltess this stretches to the business world too. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi charlse. On rpg dice, they usually have printed numbers rather than holes. This makes sense since obviously you wouldn't want to be sitting their counting 17 holes on a 20 sided dice for instance, so no, they are not accessible I'm afraid. the closest you can do is stick braille lables on some of the larger ones, but as I said, that's really only a partial solution at best since A, it is really fidly, and B, there are dice that have faces which are simply too small to take braille lables. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi tom. oddly enough when i was little we used to play a game called heroes of the maze. It was like a proto rpg, where you played knights invading a maze to battle an ogre and win magic rings. once you defeated the ogre, you got to play as him and hunt down other players, and for every win you got a knew ring, with the first to three winning the game. the board was interesting too, since rather than move set spaces, the board had a raised maze on it, and everytime you turned a little spinner under the board it moved the walls. Everything was tactile, so it was a very playable game, though not designed for blind people at all. One of the tactile elements were the dice, which had swords, shields and blanks on them, and in combat rolling different things got wins, losses or draws, and all the symbols were quite tactile. If however a certain game had pictured dice, you could either A, lable them with something noticeable, eg, s for sword, k for skull, or B, use a standard dice and draw up a result table, though that would naturally be more trouble since you'd need to look on the table yourself. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi charlse. with a d10 certainly you can determine the top of the dice by touch if you are carefull, particularly if you use one hand to stop the dice rolling and then check the upper face with the other, though it's quite surprising how stable it is especially if it's a larger size. The same would be true of a D20. it would of course need to be a little largerr, but that wouldn't impact it's rolling ability I think. Beware the Grue! Dar.k --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] board game generator was: Re: lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi Tom. Your lotr monopoly idea reminded me of something I've been considdering for a while. As we were saying to charles,an rpg game does not need to be complex. My brother has recently been playing regular board game sessions of a game called talismann in which players wander around a board, playing fantasy characters like bard, warrior, wizard etc. Each character has a couple of simple stats, mana, health and melee, as well as a few abilities, elves for instance get an extra turn while on the forest section of the board. Combat happens by drawing a monster card for a specific board region and having a very basic roll dice off (similar to the fighting fantasy rules system), while other cards give items or treasure. Being on a board, each square has a simple location written onto it, some cards get you to go to specific areas of the board, or do quests. For example, you might be instructed to go to the forest and kill a band of trolls, whereby you either go forward or back to the forest and when you reach it have some combat fights and win money which can be used for buying items to raise your melee and magic stat. it's always truck me that with some of the ways jimm's board games like monopoly work, a fantasy board game generator would be a really fun program to have. Very simple stats, no item or inventory management, simply randomly progressing through various locations until a set goal is reached, indeed if the system were simple enough people could submit their own boards and sets of encounters just as for monopoly. I could write up a propper set of rules and design if you like the idea. Just something to considder. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you
[Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico
Hi. Do any of you know the link for the online version of Puerto Rico that's accessible? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi tom. while I wouldn't say no to an escape from moria type of game, one of the intrinsic problems about such a game is that like peter jaxon, you'd really have to tinker with the population of moria and locations within it. For example, the journey is relatively unevently until the fellowship reach the chamber of mozabul, where they are attacked by a host of orcs and a cave troll. After this they go down many flgihts of stairs, get to the hall of fire, meet the balrog and cross the bridge and are then pretty much out. this means if for instance you wanted a level of the characters fighting goblins while jumping across a river, or traversing a deep treasury full of precious items, much less encountering dragons and other enemies besides orcs, trolls and the balrog you'd have to alter things quite a bit. This is one reason I so admire the eamon game Thror's ring, because it manages to stay true! to the descriptions of moria in lotr, but also departs from the beaten path into the depths of moria and shows you some quite unique things. Myself, if I wanted to create a side scroller based on Tolkien, I'd probably do it in some section of middle earth where I have full control. for example, if I wanted to set a game in Moria, rather than doing it with the fellowship, who's route is fairly strictly laid out by tolkien, I'd do it with Balin's doomed expedition. In the game you could play as either Balin, who would have the best ranged attacks, ori, who would be the strongest close range opponent, and Oin who would be an alrounder but would have the advantage of carrying his own light source (tolkien states in the hobbit Oin could make a light out of everything). during the game, you'd first have to fight your way through Dimril dale and fight off orcs around the great gate, thus having levels set on the surface and partially in caves. You could then explore moria, finding it's deep treasuries, (tolkien does hint that the expendition found durin's axe), finding underground rivers, complex mazes and anything else a game designer would want being that we know the dwarves explored moria very thughrlyy. In the end however you would find yourself in the chamber of reccords, fighting a great battle. that is just one example, there are lots of others in Tolkien's world. For instance we never learnt about gandalf's first! trip to moria that he mentions in Lotr, or yet Arragorns, both of which could be interesting stories in themselves. Getting out of moria, a game set among the campeignes of Gondor's forces along the banks of the anduin would be awsome I've always thought. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Tom. Brailling a D100 would be loopy, but to be honest most rp players I know don't own d100's, indeed I've heard people complain that they have so many faces it is too difficult to spot which one is uppermost. usually what most people do is have two d10's, with the numbers 1-10, and roll one for tens and one for units with double ten counting as 100, which obviously works fine. Back before I had Gma dice I used to do a similar thing with the d10, by rolling a d10, then having a coin toss and adding ten if the result was heads (well actually for access purposes I rolled another dice and played odds or evens, but the result was the same). Probability wise this worked out fine, though having a d20 would've been easier. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi mich. Actually I'm afraid you have your facts slightly wrong. It is not warner brothers, paramount, the bbc or anybody else who put audio descriptions on some dvds in the Uk, it is the Uk's own audio description service, which like many things in the Uk is a charity. Ironically enough the very reason that only some! films get audio descriptions is that very copywrite law that causes so much problems, since the service are not allowd to put an audio description for a film in the cinema which also appears on the dvd, and with all companies but the bbc, not to describe for tv and then! put on the dvd sales either. There are also some film companies who simply reffuse the rights for audio deescriptions to be made, this is why there is no audio description on the dvds of the Lotr films, indeed I'm quite surprised to hear you say there was an audio described hobbit, since that is one I know the service hear couldn't do (are you sure it was on a uk dvd and not one of those volunteer sites who do soundtracks only but no dvds like blind corners?). Be that as it may, I suggest you direct your ire at the right people, namely the big coorporate fools, since it is them! who get in the way of audio descriptionns. Indeed one amusing point in the Uk is that while several films at cinemas are audio described with headphones, the cineams only put on audio described performances occasionally because it may disturb other patrons even though you don't hear! the audio description accept through a specific set of headphoones. this also roundly annoys the audio description service as you can imagine. Since however this is offtopic I'd better stop, but just to put a good word in for the audio description service, for whome I have a lot of respect as they are a volunteer charity who do great work in terms of access, while battling a hole see of corporate dunderheads. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
A hobbet? well since Hob was an old name for satan, wouldn't a hobbet be a female devil? :d. none of them in lotr as I remember, not unless Sauron has been hiding secrets from us, after all, she is very vane about her eyes and must go through loads! of mascara! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico
Hi christina. Other than obviously the actual island in South america, I've not heard of Puerto rico at all, much less in the context of access. perhaps some more information would be helpful. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico Hi. Do any of you know the link for the online version of Puerto Rico that's accessible? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico
Hi, I wish I could remember where I played it before. It's been several years, and for all I know the site may have gone down since. Puerto Rico is basically a German-style board game, involving a race to get victory points by building buildings, shipping resources back to the mainland, and so on. There is actually a Z-Code interactive fiction version of the game, although it doesn't have an AI playing against oneself can be kind of fun. Sorry I can't be more immediately helpful. Best, Zack. On Apr 20, 2013, at 3:44 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi christina. Other than obviously the actual island in South america, I've not heard of Puerto rico at all, much less in the context of access. perhaps some more information would be helpful. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico Hi. Do any of you know the link for the online version of Puerto Rico that's accessible? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Pipe games are the accessible Pipe Dreams games.
I have a copy of that on a machine somewhere. I believe that there was more to it than BSC included in pipe, the strategy being that you had to guide the ooz rather than just keep up with it. - Original Message - From: michael barnes c...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:15:41 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] BSC Pipe games are the accessible Pipe Dreams games. Hello, All. I have been playing the Pipe games from BSC, and while I was playing them I began to remember about how there was some computer games in the early ninetys called Pipe Dreams. The only difference between the two games is in Pipe Dreams you didn't play as a character, you just go through a list of pipes to fit the right one. Instead of water you had this green ooze that you had to keep in the pipes. However the gameplay was the same as the Pipe games from BSC, where you have to fit the pipes to get the liquid to the end of each board. After playing both games I like the BSC's version of Pipe, because first of the character and cut scenes. Some of you might have never heard of Pipe Dreams, but I remember it was on the earlier versions of Windows. Oh if I remember you had to use the mouse instead of the keyboard. It was fun and it was very challenging, but I got very far in the game. I believe that it spawn a series of games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Puerto Rico
Hi Zack. that sounds fun indeed, if you can dig out the website I'd like to give it a try. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Hi Dark, Lol! Now, that is funny. Although, in the case of a female devil it would be spelled Hobbette. :D Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: A hobbet? well since Hob was an old name for satan, wouldn't a hobbet be a female devil? :d. none of them in lotr as I remember, not unless Sauron has been hiding secrets from us, after all, she is very vane about her eyes and must go through loads! of mascara! :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Help to find a BSC game.
Hello. I just read that 15 numbers are on the blindsoftware.com webpage. However I don't seem to be able to find that game on the website. Can someone please send me a copy? My email is c...@samobile.net Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Help to find a BSC game.
Hi Michael, As that game was developed with a different developer Justin is no longer offering downloads for that game. You need to speak to VIP Game Zone if you want it. Cheers! On 4/20/13, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. I just read that 15 numbers are on the blindsoftware.com webpage. However I don't seem to be able to find that game on the website. Can someone please send me a copy? My email is c...@samobile.net Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Dark, That is pretty much what I would do as well. I don't own a d100 dice because they are hard to read, and can't be brailed in any case. So I would just roll a couple of d10's and do the math to come up with a reasonable random dice roll for stat checks if there were any braille d10's to be had. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Brailling a D100 would be loopy, but to be honest most rp players I know don't own d100's, indeed I've heard people complain that they have so many faces it is too difficult to spot which one is uppermost. usually what most people do is have two d10's, with the numbers 1-10, and roll one for tens and one for units with double ten counting as 100, which obviously works fine. Back before I had Gma dice I used to do a similar thing with the d10, by rolling a d10, then having a coin toss and adding ten if the result was heads (well actually for access purposes I rolled another dice and played odds or evens, but the result was the same). Probability wise this worked out fine, though having a d20 would've been easier. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Dark, Interesting. I've never heard of the Hero's Maze game you speak of but it sounds darn cool. The dice with swords and shields on them sounds similar to the game I have, but is called something else. Sounds to me like there are more games with picture die than I first thought. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. oddly enough when i was little we used to play a game called heroes of the maze. It was like a proto rpg, where you played knights invading a maze to battle an ogre and win magic rings. once you defeated the ogre, you got to play as him and hunt down other players, and for every win you got a knew ring, with the first to three winning the game. the board was interesting too, since rather than move set spaces, the board had a raised maze on it, and everytime you turned a little spinner under the board it moved the walls. Everything was tactile, so it was a very playable game, though not designed for blind people at all. One of the tactile elements were the dice, which had swords, shields and blanks on them, and in combat rolling different things got wins, losses or draws, and all the symbols were quite tactile. If however a certain game had pictured dice, you could either A, lable them with something noticeable, eg, s for sword, k for skull, or B, use a standard dice and draw up a result table, though that would naturally be more trouble since you'd need to look on the table yourself. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi, And braille labels also don't stick on dice for too long. I use to braille label a standard set of playing dice and the sticky stuff on the labels would wear off sooner or later and I'd have to turn around and label it all over again. So even if we could label all our d4, d10, and d20 playing dice for RPG games the labels wouldn't stick for long. The warmth of your hands and constant handling them would cause the glue to come loose, and you'd likely be labeling the dice every time you turned around. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi charlse. On rpg dice, they usually have printed numbers rather than holes. This makes sense since obviously you wouldn't want to be sitting their counting 17 holes on a 20 sided dice for instance, so no, they are not accessible I'm afraid. the closest you can do is stick braille lables on some of the larger ones, but as I said, that's really only a partial solution at best since A, it is really fidly, and B, there are dice that have faces which are simply too small to take braille lables. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Hi Dark, No, it isn't Talisman. I think the game I'm thinking of was called Battle Master or something like that. Its a strategy game where one player commands an army of knights, wizards, etc and the other plays ogres, goblins, and orcs. The roll of the dice determines how many skulls are placed on your units, and when you reach the maximum number of skulls that unit is dead and is removed from the game board. Although, it wasn't a board exactly. It was a huge plastic mat you rolled out on the floor about a meter long and a meter wide. It had hills, rivers, bridges, and other terrain to cross. In addition to the mat there was a huge plastic castle you could sit on the mat where archers and cross bowmen could be stationed for some strategic de fence. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. would that game be talisman? my brother is an avid player, but sadly there is no accessible version. As regards the rnib, well I think at least with the rnib there is considderably more involved than simply appealing to the lowest common denominator. All their publications, magazines etc, are aimed at older generations (you can get all the braille knitting patterns you want), and whenever I've been on an info day they do an hour and a half of what is tantamount to brain washing about donations from people in their wills and how much they want such donations, not to mention radio and tv adverts all aimed at older people, their latest slogan, rnib spotting the signs of site loss for over fifties is a case in point, as well as a rather amusing tortology. I have also noticed that my efforts over the years to get Rnib to do anything not! aimed at over sixties has been fruiteless, whether that is reccording more accessible books in sf and fantasy genres, our members don't like those is what I was told getting them to produce braile gamebooks or rpg manuals, or indeed getting them to promote audio games at all other than the azabat ones our members prefer simple games and don't have the tech skills is what I was told. Frankly, there is something of a conspiracy going on with the Rnib to sucker people's investments, not to mention gain government grants for services which should! be health services anyway, (charity my arse), but that is a subject for another mail. Suffice it to say that for getting accessible gaming dice, you'd be better off heading into the woods, picking up sticks and taking the time to calve them yourself, than trying to get any practical aide out of the Rnib. Myself, if a company were! to do this, I'd be looking for someone a little more friendly to access to younger blind people, rather than someone like Rnib. As you said yourself, it's not a complicated thing, indeed I'd be tempted to contact the manufacturers of rp supplies (after all they can only say no), since I have far more confidence in them than someone like Rnib or the companies they deal with. of course however, it might be that access creation aide companies in countries other than the Uk are a little better on this front, since I do know the Uk's general attitude and that of the Rnib in particular isn't particularly great when compared to places over seas anyway, and doubltess this stretches to the business world too. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.
Hi Michael, Most of the BSC Games titles are available from the Blindsoftware.com site. I should know since I just downloaded Pipe, Classic Pipe Blast Chamber, Deekout, Hunter, Classic Troopanum, and Troopanum 2.0 all from the site directly without purchasing the pack of games just last night. The only thing I couldn't get from there was Crazy Darts, Finger Panic, and Bobby's Revenge. However, I believe I have them on a backup anyway. Cheers! On 4/20/13, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: I think we might have a bigger problem on our hands. I read in the audiogames.net forum that some people actually bought this new package and got a partially strange order confirmation mail, but no further messages in which the key generator is included or linked to. And since the current blindsoftware.com site doesn't host the old free BSC titles which are part of that bonus offer except 15 Numbers, we might have found a problem. Does anyone actually have that key generator already or more important, does anyone know if the Boston situation could have messed up things for Justin or his company or the service SWREG which is used for actually ordering that package? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Gaming Dice
Ok. Huge message that i'll send along. First of all, I love, love Talisman. I think it's an amazing game. I've played it a lot and own the base game, with plans to obtain expansion packs. Second, as reguards d100 dice, I've never seen a huge 100 sided dice, but what I have seen is an oddly shaped d10. It isn't the same shape as a standard one, and it has double zero up to 90. You roll that and a d10 and get your result. Essentially, it's just a specialized d10 for percentile rolling that is a different shape to make it easier to pick out in a hurry. Listen. I need to know how much you guys would be willing to pay, uppermost, for an individual die or a set. I'd be planning to make d4, d8, d10, d12, and d20, at least. I don't really see a need to make a d6, because they are so easily obtainable, and easy to read. I'm seriously looking at what it would take to make the dice, and I'm also aghast at the hugely expensive goal of 11 thousand dollars. That's much higher than I'd need to get started. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 4/20/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, No, it isn't Talisman. I think the game I'm thinking of was called Battle Master or something like that. Its a strategy game where one player commands an army of knights, wizards, etc and the other plays ogres, goblins, and orcs. The roll of the dice determines how many skulls are placed on your units, and when you reach the maximum number of skulls that unit is dead and is removed from the game board. Although, it wasn't a board exactly. It was a huge plastic mat you rolled out on the floor about a meter long and a meter wide. It had hills, rivers, bridges, and other terrain to cross. In addition to the mat there was a huge plastic castle you could sit on the mat where archers and cross bowmen could be stationed for some strategic de fence. Cheers! On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi tom. would that game be talisman? my brother is an avid player, but sadly there is no accessible version. As regards the rnib, well I think at least with the rnib there is considderably more involved than simply appealing to the lowest common denominator. All their publications, magazines etc, are aimed at older generations (you can get all the braille knitting patterns you want), and whenever I've been on an info day they do an hour and a half of what is tantamount to brain washing about donations from people in their wills and how much they want such donations, not to mention radio and tv adverts all aimed at older people, their latest slogan, rnib spotting the signs of site loss for over fifties is a case in point, as well as a rather amusing tortology. I have also noticed that my efforts over the years to get Rnib to do anything not! aimed at over sixties has been fruiteless, whether that is reccording more accessible books in sf and fantasy genres, our members don't like those is what I was told getting them to produce braile gamebooks or rpg manuals, or indeed getting them to promote audio games at all other than the azabat ones our members prefer simple games and don't have the tech skills is what I was told. Frankly, there is something of a conspiracy going on with the Rnib to sucker people's investments, not to mention gain government grants for services which should! be health services anyway, (charity my arse), but that is a subject for another mail. Suffice it to say that for getting accessible gaming dice, you'd be better off heading into the woods, picking up sticks and taking the time to calve them yourself, than trying to get any practical aide out of the Rnib. Myself, if a company were! to do this, I'd be looking for someone a little more friendly to access to younger blind people, rather than someone like Rnib. As you said yourself, it's not a complicated thing, indeed I'd be tempted to contact the manufacturers of rp supplies (after all they can only say no), since I have far more confidence in them than someone like Rnib or the companies they deal with. of course however, it might be that access creation aide companies in countries other than the Uk are a little better on this front, since I do know the Uk's general attitude and that of the Rnib in particular isn't particularly great when compared to places over seas anyway, and doubltess this stretches to the business world too. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __
Re: [Audyssey] board game generator was: Re: lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
I've been trying to come up with the programming knowledge to make something like that, but I'm still sadly far away from that goal. I would love to play it, though, if others designed it. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 4/20/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. Your lotr monopoly idea reminded me of something I've been considdering for a while. As we were saying to charles,an rpg game does not need to be complex. My brother has recently been playing regular board game sessions of a game called talismann in which players wander around a board, playing fantasy characters like bard, warrior, wizard etc. Each character has a couple of simple stats, mana, health and melee, as well as a few abilities, elves for instance get an extra turn while on the forest section of the board. Combat happens by drawing a monster card for a specific board region and having a very basic roll dice off (similar to the fighting fantasy rules system), while other cards give items or treasure. Being on a board, each square has a simple location written onto it, some cards get you to go to specific areas of the board, or do quests. For example, you might be instructed to go to the forest and kill a band of trolls, whereby you either go forward or back to the forest and when you reach it have some combat fights and win money which can be used for buying items to raise your melee and magic stat. it's always truck me that with some of the ways jimm's board games like monopoly work, a fantasy board game generator would be a really fun program to have. Very simple stats, no item or inventory management, simply randomly progressing through various locations until a set goal is reached, indeed if the system were simple enough people could submit their own boards and sets of encounters just as for monopoly. I could write up a propper set of rules and design if you like the idea. Just something to considder. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format Hi Charles, I suppose if done correctly, but I haven't known of a game developer who has done the series justice yet. As has been mentioned on list all or most of the mainstream Lord of the Rings live action games have turned out to be junk for one reason or another. You either get the combat centered games that simply go from one battle to another which makes sense from an action game perspective but you lose the story element that way. Other games try to fit too much into the game and fail from trying to do too much in one game. I think if I were going to do a Lord of the Rings action game I would try and break it down into a series of games that only have one setting and one objective which would be easier to code. For example, I might create a side-scroller called, Lord of the Rings: Escape From Moria, which would essentially take place at the end of Fellowship of the Ring. You could pick one of the main characters and your goal would be to escape from the Mines of Moria. Along the way you might fight goblins and orcs, pick up torches to light your way, and perhaps find discarded armor and weapons. That to me seems like the only way to do a Lord of the Rings game and make it simple enough for a single developer like myself to program it. Of course, there are other Lord of the Rings games to consider. For example, I have a collectible set of Lord of the Rings Monopoly , and have created a board for Jim's Monopoly. However, there is a lot more to the actual board game than the board itself such as special rules for the ring, a special die for the Eye of Sauron, all of the chance cards, etc that could be made into an electronic version. I think if you and other people are interested I could create an accessible version of my LOTR Monopoly and make it true to the board game complete with chance cards, tokens, and special game rules. Cheers! On 4/19/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting, especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark of Hope. -- If guns kill people, writing implements cause grammatical and spelling errors! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you
Re: [Audyssey] lord of the rings game thought - Re: Children's Games was Audyssey Format
Hi Dark, True. However, I was merely throwing the Mines of Moria idea out there as a case example of how the three books could be trimmed down to something manageable by a single developer rather than an actual idea for a LOTR game. For a real LOTR game I would probably do something along the lines you mentioned like using some event not specifically covered in the books such as Balin's doomed expedition where I am more free to play with the storyline and characters. Any of the main characters from the fellowship itself is already written history, and anything I could do to create a game would require tampering with the cannon, and I don't think any true fan of LOTR really wants me to do that. In fact, I would say I think all of the commercial LOTR games out there are failures precisely for that very reason. The game designers wanted to use all the characters from the fellowship and ended up creating side quests and adventures beyond the scope of the original three books which isn't as good as if they picked an event like Balin's doomed expedition or when Gandalf left Bilbo and the dwarves to travel Mirkwood on their own while he and the other wizards went to fight Sauron. There are a number of potential quests in the LOTR books and Hobbit that could be taken up by a game designer, but have not simply because the commercial companies decided to base the game on the main characters and did a bad job of it. When it comes down to it this is a pretty general problem with basing a game on any book or movie. There is a certain amount of cannon around the main characters where there isn't any room to write new quests or adventures for those characters without seriously altering the history of that character or story. In something like LOTR the history of the fellowship is known and a game developer has to follow the history laid down by the original author. With something like Star Trek its a lot more flexible because its assumed Picard, Riker, Troi, Data, Warf, etc have adventures that are not covered by the weekly TV show, and there you can write a game about those adventures. LOTR is pretty much a closed history where Star Trek is an open ended story. Big difference in terms of writing a game. However, the best solution is to take the established universe be it Star Trek, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and create your own characters and quests for that game world. In fact, Lucas Arts rarely ever uses Han, Luke, Leia, Obi-Wan, etc in their Star Wars games for this reason. Instead they have created their own characters like Kyle Katern who was in Dark Forces, Jedi Knight, and Jedi Outcast as the main character. They used Mara Jade in Mysteries of the Sith who was pretty much an unknown character at that time. More recent games have Master Shan and some of the other Jedi Masters from thousands of years before Luke Skywalker was even born. All of this is to point out the games are based on Star Wars but the games don't have to worry about cannon or if the books conflict with this or that because the games exist in their own cannon and history. So if I were to write a game set in the Harry Potter universe I would be better off creating a custom student at Hogwarts who just happens to run into NPC characters like Ron, Harry, Jinnee, Hermione, etc during his or her own adventures. This would allow me to write stories not covered by J. K. Rowling while preserving the cannon. I think from a purity perspective is the best solution. Unfortunately, a lot of gamers probably want to play the main characters which is why even though it breaks with cannon you get a LOTR game with the main characters in it doing things like finding Sam's gaffer's glasses in order to get him to join the Fellowship of the Ring which is just dumb. Game developers aren't given much wiggle room when it comes to cannon and main characters so stick side quests into their games as filler between major battle scenes whatever, and are something of a detraction from the over all game. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
