hmmm I heard on the ag forum that a clean install, ie a reformat is
better to load things.
win7 has many licence types, aparently you can only use 1 key per
unit but then so is xp and 7 and as long as you are carefull you can
within reason use one key on as many units as you want so long as you
Sorry, but it is true that this entire system has caused us really nasty
problems.
I think that the hardware is also messed up and not only the Windows DVD.
Now I am wondering whether it would be a good idea to use the Windows 8
upgrade DVD I have on that system to hopefully fix some of the prob
Then I was right in thinking that her system was deliberately fucked up...
A few weeks ago, I had to fix a nasty virus problem, which required removing
the hard drive and look at it with another computer.
The structure of the drive was messed up before that, so I had to recreate
everything down
Ok, while we are talking .net framework here, I'd like to know something.
When .net 3.5 and later .net 3.5 SP1 were released, there were two ways to
install them (Vista or XP only).
You could download and run a web setup program, or get a full package.
I know that two such files were available,
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: 23 January 2013 07:37
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
>
> Hi Kimberly,
>
> No problem. I just sent you a message privately about the free office
> suite
t: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Kimberly,
No problem. I just sent you a message privately about the free office
suite I use for Windows, and hope you find it useful.
On 1/23/13, Kimberly Qualls wrote:
> Yes, I realize that must be a problem, from the other posts I
> read...T
January 23, 2013 7:37 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Kimberly,
No problem. I just sent you a message privately about the free office
suite I use for Windows, and hope you find it useful.
On 1/23/13, Kimberly Qualls wrote:
Yes, I realize that
Yes, I realize that must be a problem, from the other posts I
read...That is one thing they don't have to worry about with me,
though...lol...I'm not tech enough to know how to pirate...Oh, and I
wanted to ask you about the open source for the (office like)
program...I'm beginning to learn NVDA
Tom I got a win7 cd iso for my brothers uni in 2010 late 2010 and it
was 3.51 with the dotnet 4 profile.
I upgraded to 4.0 extended client with the installer then upgraded to
4.5 though 4.5 is mainly for the new bits and bobs for vc 2012.
ms was quite quiet in doing that though it was only becaus
Hi Michael,
Not sure what I can say other than your mother's computer is
definitely not the norm. Not as far as my experience with Windows 7
goes.. Every copy of Windows 7 I have purchased comes with .NET 4.0
preinstalled, but I might add it doesn't show up under Programs and
Features as it is a s
Hi Thomas,
I am in Germany, and so is my mother.
She bought a laptop a while ago with Windows 7 Home Premium.
And I can tell you the following (she is sighted, while I am blind, thus she
did checking):
1.
Her Windows includes a subversion of .net 3.5 which seems to be called .net
3.51 (by defau
Two versions could be offered. A lite and a separate download for the full
version
Sent from my iPad
On 16 Jan 2013, at 21:59, Draconis Entertainment
wrote:
> Hi Tom and Dark,
>
> THanks for the feedback. As I tried to make clear in the original response,
> playable demos are something tha
Hi Thomas,
While we are talking technology here, I'd like to ask something.
.net 4.0 can be run on XP and is not shipped with Windows 7 directly, what
exactly does Windows 8 have?
I heard of a .net 4.5 package which can be installed on Windows 7.
While XP might be outdated, Windows 7 seems to be
I agree. This is why I've decided to go the Apple rout, because at least they
care enough to give us a full-featured screen reader, very good TTS, and more
stability than Windows ever had. I also love their email service, and
everything else they provide. The only thing I miss from windows is Mu
Adding to what Tom says here,
Apple's business model is much different from Microsoft's. While you are
restricted to running OS X on Mac hardware, one of the reasons is because Apple
virtually gives away its OS. In a way, it is their own form of registration. If
you have Apple hardware, that gi
Well on that reguard I was mucking round and came accross a site
calle osxx86project.org
aparently you need a legal macos and then need to image then patch it
but you can run macos on a pc.
not sure how legal it is but the site does state you need your own version.
At 06:26 PM 1/21/2013, you w
Yes it does in a way and I can understand that.
I am not asking you to make anything difficult for Mac users because
something is not possible for Windows.
That's true.
However, even if Windows seems outdated in some ways, it would be
interesting to know how you think about Windows 8 and their
I totally agree with your philosophy on this. I love your silver dollar game,
and I really, really can't wait for more games from you. I think what you're
doing, is really leveling the game-playing field for us mac users. Before, we
only had RS-games. And even that wasn't a true audio game. Now,
I will definitely wait and see what you can and will do, before talking
about it either positively or negatively.
It is true that lots of mainstream and small developers have found ways to
do business like they want.
But please let me tell you two things I have seen and of which I am not sure
Hi Josh,
ok, I'm glad to hear that. And I didn't want to sound rude there, it just
was something I wanted to point out.
Well, I think if you found a solution for this problem I'll just wait and
see what it is. Probably you are right and people will start complaining
again just because it's d
Hi Sarah and all,
As Charles rightly points out, there have been messages on this topic in both
categories…those which are constructive, and those which are not. We absolutely
do take the constructive messages with good points to heart, and think we have
a plan that solves the issues for both t
Dark, I can definitely identify with what you are saying. Although, my
older desktops are pretty much glorified testing and gaming machines I
still prefer using them over a laptop when I'm home. However, when I
am out of town, visiting in-laws, etc I have my laptop with me and
therefore I too need
feel for the
game, which just might make the sale.
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- Original Message - From: "Sarah Haake"
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers
: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:40 PM
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Hi Josh,
well, I think you have to differentiate between complaints about changes
and real concerns. If someone complains about changed game music, well
that'
Hi Josh,
well, I think you have to differentiate between complaints about changes and
real concerns. If someone complains about changed game music, well that's
just a complaint and a matter of taste maybe. But I think on the demo topic
it's not so much that losing demos would be a change, but
ssion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
its a shame kent has stopped.
I am so happy I got it when I did.
the update patch is the full version, but no sound ofcause.
so if you play the patch then you are playing the full game anyway.
At 07:02 AM 1/20/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shau
the Interactive Fiction Archive
or I could put it on dropbox.
All the best, Ibrahim.
-Original Message- From: shaun everiss
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:23 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Well I'd pay more for extra stuff it
e it, however I doubt that
would be allowed. A demo is available from the Interactive Fiction Archive
or I could put it on dropbox.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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From: shaun everiss
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:23 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The
Well as I've often said I'd be the first to desire more elaborate and full
featured titles, which is another reason I wouldn't support piracy of audio
games.
My point as regards demos wasn't so much that the current 15 day demos had
to stay, or things had to be the same, merely that having no
well automatic key replacements will be good but
then having static keys means your users can load
everything on any box there is the piracy issue though.
cds, well I guess I understand it, loads of stuff
is downloaded these days anyway.
At 05:21 AM 1/20/2013, you wrote:
Hi Dark,
We hope to
Well I'd pay more for extra stuff it was the reason I got futureboy
for the 25 bucks it cost me.
True I could have payed 5-10 for the game download, or 15 for a cd in
a case, however for 25 I got the game and the manuals and programming
books and other extras free with it.
You have no idea what
Hi Dark,
We hope to produce games, in time, that are much more elaborate and wider in
scope, much like the video games you mention.
It will be tough to justify putting that much effort into titles unless piracy
can be curbed and the community accepts that things may need to change in order
to
ut RR 2 on both
systems. As far as registration goes, they both work just fine.
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Shaun,
Well, the licensing system that Railracer uses is pretty crappy to begin
with. I rem
20 would be better, ofcause being over the other
side of the world I hardly have the cash these
days to even think of shelling out on games let
alone computers, and just when you get enough
health or something gets in the way.
I have already blown my budget this year for upgrades.
everything f
I would have to reinstall the demos to give you the exact error message for
Ten Pin Alley, but I do know for a fact that my Desktop Computer with modern
hardware (two or three years old) can't run TPA 1.2 under XP, while I have
no problems with your other titles and I have DirectX properly insta
I aggree with you there.
nothing is really free.
Ofcause I can't afford cash per say for donating,
but I can donate time and other things which I
always say to those that ask me what I can do that I will do it.
Saying that if I ever get a good job and actually
find myself with a load of cash I
well I aggree in the period the incription was on dvds, it still is
for some stuff, I had to crack the dvd which I owned to get the audio off.
I have to essentually crack the dvds I own to extract audio anyway,
but encripted is harder.
I don't want to be tied down to the box.
now its all multi
hmmm I'd pay $10 for a game instead of 30.
ofcause if I didn't like I'd like the ability to trade it with
someone that does.
At 02:06 PM 1/19/2013, you wrote:
Hi Josh,
Well, given the choice of pay $10 for a game with no demo or $30 for a
game with a demo I think I'd personally risk the $10..
Hi Sarah.
I agree. The first game I bought was shades of doom, and it is still! a game
I stick on occasionally for a quick blast, even though i bought it nearly 7
years ago now, that is very different from the pizza it I ate last night
which is now (mostly), gone.
As to mainstream games, you
If you want a demo. Then just make one level like GMA did and then
when bought you get the whole game. When you put the key into the
demo it downloads the rest to your computer. you can't get the
download any other way and that could be locked to that computers
internal devices. This would also
,
Hayden
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Greetings.
While I definitely understand and can appreciate the value of a
Hi Kai,
ok, just a few points here.
First, you can't really compare foot to games. Foot does not cost as much,
and besides you just eat it and it's gone. When you didn't like it, you just
don't buy it again. But a game should keep you entertained for quite some
time and is a purchase for some
Hi Tom.
That is true regarding software, and I will admit I have done the same thing
with cds before, namely swapping them with my brother or friends in order to
copy them, and it is certainly true that many people don't have the
appreciation for supporting audio game developers that you or I
Hi Tom.
Well at the moment the two machine thing is even more crytical for me, since
I currently spend half the week at my own flat in Durham where I do tabletop
rp, watch films and generally enjoy myself, and half the time at my parents'
in Nottingham, where I am involved in a production f io
the
mainstream market just does not always work.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Kai
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 8:01 PM
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Greetings
18, 2013 8:13 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Shaun,
Well, the licensing system that Railracer uses is pretty crappy to begin
with. I remember looking into it for some of my own projects a few years
back and I was not at all impressed with it
Hi Tom,
While open source certainly has a place…(Apple's one of the largest open source
contributors in the world, between spearheading the Darwin and Webkit
projects)…it is next to impossible to build a business with it, especially in
the visually impaired community, who have been largely cond
list"
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hello all,
We really appreciate all the feedback, and we will continue to debate this
internally leading up to the Windows release of ChangeReaction. Nothing
has been definitively decided, as I&
Hi Josh,
Well, given the choice of pay $10 for a game with no demo or $30 for a
game with a demo I think I'd personally risk the $10.. Especially, for
a simple game like Change Reaction or Silver Dollar which are decent
games, but not worth $30 in my opinion. that said, I think I
understand why a
Answers throughout:
> *snip*
> Thank you for the answer, but it seems that you are not completely correct
> with Monkey Business.
> I know three versions of the game.
> One is old, and I mean pre-Draconis time...
> The second is 1.8.11 or 1.8.12.
> This one was there as an 1000+ MB download.
> T
Thank you for the answer, but it seems that you are not completely correct
with Monkey Business.
I know three versions of the game.
One is old, and I mean pre-Draconis time...
The second is 1.8.11 or 1.8.12.
This one was there as an 1000+ MB download.
This one was unplayable without having an ac
As a game developer myself, what you describe here is why I don't
bother with copy protection on AA, and why I've chosen to basically
make it free to play. I want people to play the game and have fun,
and if the game is good enough they'll donate to it and get some
perks. If it's not good enough,
the thing with sponsored adds in podcasts is you are more likely to
skip them just like you are more likely to close your popups rather
than reading them.
However if there is something I absolutely loathe its when a
podcaster or reviewer reviews their own product, some of them can
sound like th
Well I aggree with you in that reguard but have my own opinion on railracer.
I am not flaming che or anyone but to be honest to put it politely I
have been unimpressed with railracer.
Firstly after the beta was over and life got in the way interest with
the game tapered off some what.
Especiall
internet registration is fine with me, indeed it's one of my favourite
options since it doesn't require noting down of hyper complex reg keys.
The only real issue I have with internet registration is when it is limited
to only one registered machine per customer as it is for vip gameszone,
sin
Hi Michael.
well Draconis have alreadysaid that the windows versions (whether demos or
not), will be downloadable from their site directly just as they have always
been.
as regards your pinball question, while I completely agree that a demo is
needed for these gamees since they are simpley l
Hi Michael,
You asked:
*snip*
> I'd also like to know how things are supposed to go in the future.
> Mac users can use the app store to get your titles.
> Regardless of the demo question I'd like to know how buying, optaining and
> registering your games is supposed to be done once you are ready
I'd like to say a few things as well.
When it comes to the question of demos, it depends on the type of game.
I am here in Germany, and I know a few people who wanted to look at Monkey
Business before you released the version 1.9 of it which included a playable
demo.
When I heard of it for the f
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Tom.
I haven't actually! at this point pirated any games to try them, i merely
pointed out that this is a mo
It's simple really. People want to know what they're getting into before
they pay for it. And reading a description or hearing an audio trailer
isn't always enough for everyone. An example of that would be
Silversword a couple years ago. I'm sure a lot of people paid money for
that only to disc
Hello all,
We really appreciate all the feedback, and we will continue to debate this
internally leading up to the Windows release of ChangeReaction. Nothing has
been definitively decided, as I've said once or twice now. *wink*
There are good points on both sides of the debate, and we will do o
Hi Tom.
that is the case about third party reviews, but equally I've noticed that
reviews can vary a lot in quality.
Generally speaking, the main reasons people tend to write reviews are if
they absolutely love, or absolutely hate something, thus a large quantity of
reviews tend to be either
Hi Tom.
I haven't actually! at this point pirated any games to try them, i merely
pointed out that this is a motivation which I've observed some people have,
and one thing I might considder myself if occasion arose, for all that I'd
always want to support developers of accessible games as much
a close second.
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Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Dark,
There is no denying that the ability to play a demo is better than
just he
Lol charls, that is a very good point. it's rare that a trailer will say
"play this game! it's sort of got some good points, but these things about
it are bad, still buy it anyway!" :D.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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>
>
>>I agree with what all of you are saying. I would much rather know what
>> I'm getting before I buy it. Eve
hursday, January 17, 2013 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
I agree with what all of you are saying. I would much rather know what
I'm getting before I buy it. Even if a game sounds great from the
description, I may not enjoy the game at all, and would have regrett
: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:39 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
>
> Hi Tom.
>
> another fact to considder, is that often the experience of playing a game
> is
> very different to that of hearing about it. A perfect example h
: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:39 AM
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Hi Tom.
another fact to considder, is that often the experience of playing a game is
very different to that of
one to Sarah in purchasing apps
that, although they are cheep, add up over time.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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Entertainment
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:40 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
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Hi,
just my two cents on the demo topic here.
If there was no demo for the $5 game and I only get text descriptions before
buying it, I certainly would prefer the $30 game with the demo. Yes, it
costs more. But when I can try it before I can be sure that it's a game I
really wanted. If I spen
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To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
One last point to throw out there on the demos topic.
While there's been a bit of traffic on this list
One last point to throw out there on the demos topic.
While there's been a bit of traffic on this list about this topic, it has come
from only two or three users who feel pretty strongly about the topic. It
reminds me a lot of 2007, when we announced that we would no longer be offering
CD copi
Hi all,
Thanks for all the feedback.
Never expected to start such a lively conversation over the simple topic of
demos, and our internal debate as to whether to continue offering them. As we
said previously, it is an issue with a number of factors involved, and we will
be weighing them all car
Lite versions are more common on iOS than Mac, but it is by no means a given
that all developers do lite versions.
The game engine works on iOS, so we plan to release titles for that platform
eventually.
On Jan 16, 2013, at 8:02 PM, michael barnes wrote:
> Hey.
> I agree with Dark.
> I figu
Hi Tom.
another fact to considder, is that often the experience of playing a game is
very different to that of hearing about it. A perfect example hear is rail
racer.
I do not myself enjoy racing games, they are not something that tends to
interest me in the least. Thus I wasn't absolutely e
Hi Tom.
Your assessment of pirate motivations seems reasonable, however again, I
have equally run into people who pirate a game purely to try it. I remember
for instance a couple of individuals (who shall remain nameless), saying as
much on audiogames.net, that when a demo was in their opinio
Personally, for me timed demos depend upon the time.
the old draconis 15 day demos that gave you say about %10 of the game to
play i thought were more than reasonable, since you had plenty of time to
play the game over a number of days, replay the shorter segments, decide if
the games would ap
of three authorizations.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Josh,
Oh, I definitely understand where you are coming from on this subject.
Well I have seen the download system work before, it's the one niels bauer
use with smugglers and shard workshop use with their games.
it's not an absolute guarantee, since someone could always pass around the
setup files to the full versions, but it does stop the demo version's
passwords bein
well agreed piracy is bad at those levels, but to be honest if the choice
was a security system or a playable demo I'd rather have the chance to try
the games first myself.
Also there might be another side to this, since frankly if there was no!
demo I could well see people playing pirated cop
ose second.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Josh,
Agreed. Timed demos do tend to be the best to motivate someone to buy
a game. I
uot;Thomas Ward"
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Answers Questions
Hi Josh,
Oh, I definitely understand where you are coming from on this subject.
Piracy is in deed a real problem, and if its true there
agreed. work gos in, and to have your stuff pirated isn't good.
how ever, in the IOS / mac worlds, its much harder to hack / crack things. not
impossible, but more trouble then its really worth for most hackers.
also, on the subject of demos, yes, there is the facter to considder about
people no
Hey.
I agree with Dark.
I figure that Draconis was going to make a lite version of the games on
the Mac like other developers.
I do however have one question for Draconis.
Are you going to put the games on the iOS platform?
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:49 PM
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Hi all,
I find myself in agreement with Dark on this issue of demos. While I
realize Draconis is attempting to
Hi Bryan,
I'm sure no one particularly *likes* timed demos. It is supposed to help you
decide if you want to purchase the game, not give you a way to enjoy it
indefinitely for free. Time and effort go into these games. *smile*
If we were to do demos going forward, they would likely be timed dem
Well Piter, to be honest I'd suggest just producing a free light version
which acts! as a demo instead, I recently found this with smack me. Even if
it takes more developement time I would say it's likely worth it in the long
run since otherwise people are likely to simply not want to financiall
Hi Tom and Dark,
THanks for the feedback. As I tried to make clear in the original response,
playable demos are something that are being continually discussed and thought
about here. It's not an area where we are dead set on any specific course of
action.
To clarify: When asking a user to inve
Hi,
I think I'll have to agree with Dark and Thomas here. This may be in
part due to how iOS and non iOS users think. For one thing Apple doesn't
allow trials in the app store, so if a developer wants to release a demo
they either need to release the entire app with an in-app purchase to
unloc
I agree with Thomas. Nor do I particularly like timed demos, which cause
problems for people who like the game but are content with having only a
few levels to play and therefore don't necessarily want to pay. Space
Invaders tpe games are the best example of what I mean.
On 1/16/2013 1:49 PM, T
Hi all,
I find myself in agreement with Dark on this issue of demos. While I
realize Draconis is attempting to bring the cost down on new and
existing games I'd still prefer to try before I buy a game. Even if a
game is only $10 I don't really have it to spend frivolously. As I am
married, have a
Hi.
As regards demos, I'm afraid I'm a little confused as to your reasoning that
bringing the price down automatically means you don't need a demo. This
might be true for games such as silver dollar where the over all price is
extremely low and the game is more than simple enough to understand
Greetings,
We collected a variety of questions from various places and try to answer them
all below. Most of them came from an AudioGames.net thread, also linked below.
If you have follow up questions or anything we have not yet addressed, let us
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