Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yes, it is. Just about any fairly up to date text to speech application like TextAloud or Swift Talker will allow you to open and read a text document which has been tagged using xml or ssml speech tags and give you real time changes in speech as it reads. Its more natural that way. I've

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread shaun everiss
wow interactive books and other things. really rocks that. At 07:27 p.m. 14/11/2011 -0500, you wrote: Hi, Yeah. Well, like I said, I think the ssml and xml tagging to force SAPI 5.4 compatible voices to make proper real time changes on the fly in documents very cool. You can even have it switch

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Yes, agreed. Swift Talker does a better job with the Cepstral voices than TextAloud. Of course, its their product so it should work better. :D Cheers! On 11/14/11, Bryan Peterson wrote: > You can add the effects with the Cepstral Tools program you get anytime you > install aCepstral

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Bryan Peterson
more sluggish than it does with the Cepstral specific app. They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa! - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possib

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah. Well, like I said, I think the ssml and xml tagging to force SAPI 5.4 compatible voices to make proper real time changes on the fly in documents very cool. You can even have it switch voices on the fly while reading a document too. The only problem is, of course, not every application ha

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Oh, I wouldn't say that. There are decent SAPI 5 voices as well. They just don't come with Windows like the SAPI 4 voices did. The Cepstral voices, for example, have similar effects to make the voices sound robotic, add echo, etc so that feature is still available in SAPI 5. As I recall an app

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, As I said I told you what I know. If what you say is true I haven't heard about it. Last I knew Eloquence was owned by Speech Works. If they are out of business etc that's news to me. I haven't seen a SAPI 5 compatible version of Eloquence, but that doesn't mean such a thing does not e

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread shaun everiss
what supprises me is that there are more voices for sapi4 which sound quite good, some with effects. the ms sapi4 engines for example sound better than the sapi5 ones. And the ms ones have effects like hall, space, etc. There are also robot voices which sound rather cool. THere is good quality lh

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread shaun everiss
that is the reason I started with dolphin products. They don't push you to upgrade unless you need it. Upgrades have cost a lot but you get what you pay for. I got 2.0 first then 4.5 because of the new voice synth then 5.0 because of windows support. then 5.2 because of dcm. I stayed there for lik

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread dark
Actually tom, some of those sapi 5.4 things sound really quite nice, possibly the first positive change I've heard with windows 7 yet :D. Actually a friend of mine who had a degree in computer science was speculating about such tags back in 2003, and now of course ms have proved her righ

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Gauler
Hi Thomas, I thought Speech Works did no longer exist, meaning that Eloquence was no part of Nuance or Scansoft. Furthermore I also thought at least the IBM versions of the voices were now also available as SAPI 5.1 versions at least, thus I thought the "original" Eloquence would also be availa

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, I'm honestly not surprised. Remember SAPI 4 was originally written for Windows 98 era operating systems and software. That's like 13 years ago. In terms of computer software its ancient. Microsoft's SAPI 5 API was a complete rewrite for Windows XP, and has been steadily upgraded along with th

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Perhaps, but its just another way to attempt to get the customer to pay for the same product over and over again. You buy Jaws the price of Eloquence is included in the sale. If you buy Openbook that too has another license for Eloquence meaning you just purchased the same sinth twice.

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread john
s not work on windows seven. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features Hi, Unfortunately, I don't know any more than I've already said. Yes, there was a SAPI 4 compatible version of Eloquence available, but I&#

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Unfortunately, I don't know any more than I've already said. Yes, there was a SAPI 4 compatible version of Eloquence available, but I'm not sure if it is still being sold/licensed. Last I heard Kurzweil 3000 still ships withe the generic SAPI 4 version of Eloquence, but it has been sometime si

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-12 Thread Michael Gauler
Hi Thomas, I have a question about this. I thought it was legally possible to buy a SAPI 5 version of Eloquence instead of only having boundled versions like JAWS or other programs? And what about ViaVoice TTS from IBM, which is essentially the same than Eloquence, at least concerning the voices

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-12 Thread Charles Rivard
" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:16 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features Hi Charles, Yes, of course. Its perfectly legal to use Eloquence if it came a part of Jaws, Window-Eyes, etc through the screen reader

Re: [Audyssey] legalized speech - Re: Possible MOTA Features

2011-11-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Yes, of course. Its perfectly legal to use Eloquence if it came a part of Jaws, Window-Eyes, etc through the screen reader's API because you are still using the product the TTS engine was licensed for. The problem with RealSpeak, Vocalizer, and Eloquence is they have exclusive license