Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, No, Peru is not an island. It is a country on the South American continent. You guys need to brush up on your geography lessons. Smile nicol wrote: Thanks, I've learned something! However, I thought peru is an island. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-09 Thread ari
give us an accessible game with sound effects for that Thomas, lol! Seriously, there's this really cool sighted board game, where, I can't remember what it was called, but what happened was the pieces were planes, and you threw dice and moved on a map, trying to answer questions about capitals

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-08 Thread nicol
Thanks, I've learned something! However, I thought peru is an island. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bryan Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:54 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day No. Those aren't

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-07 Thread Darren Harris
] On Behalf Of ari Sent: 07 February 2008 16:01 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Thomas, I have also been thinking about it from your point of view, and it really is a tricky situation, but thanks to some new good free screen readers there isn't as big

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-07 Thread josh
Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Ari, I totally understand where those people are coming from in the cases below, and I can sympathize with their situation. Unfortunately, that isn't the fault

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-07 Thread ari
Hi Thomas, I have also been thinking about it from your point of view, and it really is a tricky situation, but thanks to some new good free screen readers there isn't as big a problem as it used to be. What I would wish for is that, if a person needed a product like jaws, and they were living

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-07 Thread Willem
Yeah all of us on this list are very lucky people. We should appreciate what we have more. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread ari
No, there are instances that I have seen where for the case of humanity, I am looking at it from the perspective of the developing world where money is scarce, and, let us say, before NVDA and free screen readers, there were, let's call them needs, and there were questions of refused funding

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking about a day or two ago. It is very hypocritical, and comes back to my point we lie best when we lie to ourselves. On one hand you say pirating software is wrong, but on the other you say pirating music is O.K. Did it

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kuvvosh, Well, I do think reformatting your hard drive that often is a bit extreme, but I do think I have three suggestions that can help you. 1. Buy an extra computer. Use one as a test machine and the other as a day to day computer for everything else. 2. Buy a removable drive tray. These

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Willem, Actually, I usually don't have a problem with the GMA product keys. I have reinstalled XP before, and have been able to reuse my license keys. If product activations is really a big problem for you you should invest in a drive copy software so you can image a clean install of XP,

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Willem
to work on the Sabbath too. - Original Message - From: ari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day No, there are instances that I have seen where for the case of humanity, I am

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, Quote On the face of it, piracy doesn't seem wrong because no physical goods are being taken. I think we're all still catching up to the new digital world we live in. We have a hard time seeing the physical consequences of the act and that has allowed piracy to become as pervasive as

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Oriol, I am not writing you to flame you or pick on you, but I do think your excuse for cracking is still a pretty lame excuse to crack and pirate. With a little time and money you can invest in software or hardware to make piracy unnecessary. You can invest in drive imaging software, buy

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread James Scholes
Yeah, thanks from me too for that site. -- From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:48 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hmm thanks for that site. 2

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread josh
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Shaun, Your opinion is exactly the kind of double standard I was talking about a day or two ago. It is very hypocritical, and comes back to my point we lie best when we lie to ourselves. On one hand you say pirating software is wrong

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
] piracy of judgment day I think he was refering to the fact that selling the game Beep for any price, no matter how low, with be a completely stupid move, as all you do is hit the space bar for 5 minutes, then its over! Just my thoughts. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Darren Harris
it. But how many will admit to it especially when they are quick to judge others for copying software? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of josh Sent: 06 February 2008 15:53 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, The question the inquiring mind wants to know if the software is high priced and a pile of dung why would you want to crack it anyway? After all there is no sense in cracking a piece of software illegally if you think it is crap to begin with. shaun everiss wrote: Yeah, in the perfect

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread ari
here here Darren! Not judgemental! Sure, it is stealing, but in some cases I consider it a more Robin Hood type act. But I do think for blind games and software, for me ethically, piracy is a no-no, because people like Thomas and Liam are one-man businesses, trying to make a living, they're

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Well, it is true that Jaws, Window Eyes, Hal, etc do cost quite a bit of cash, but there are now free and low cost alternatives in the works. NVDA is totally free, and is good enough for most day to day use. My Universal Screen Access software doesn't currently have a price, but I think it

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Yohandy
*. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Josh, Well, if we want to take the strictly legal view copying music tapes, recording

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Darren Harris
into the discussion since the entire list has *grin*. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Josh, Well, if we want to take the strictly legal

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, Yes, and that is one of those huge gray areas that might or might not have a right answer. Truth be told it is probably impossible for a game developer not to steel someone elses idea, or do some copyright infringement. Take Jim Kitchen's games. Monopoly, NFL, Yatzi, etc. All of

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread nicol
: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Ari, I totally understand where those people are coming from in the cases below, and I can sympathize with their situation. Unfortunately, that isn't the fault of the company

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
, monti, all copy writed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yohandy Sent: 06 February 2008 18:32 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Tom, Weren't you considering releasing a game and claim

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Bryan
their pride Then we'd see the day when nobody died. Nickelback, If Everyone Cared - Original Message - From: nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Quote a couple times

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Yohandy
? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Yohandy, Yes, and that is one of those huge gray areas that might or might not have a right

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol, Quote Isn't south American countries part of the united states? End quote No. South America is a completely different continent. By South American countries I am talking of places like Columbia, Brazil, Peru, Argentina, etc. They are completely separate countries which have nothing

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren, Quote If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that. End quote I say, yo ho. yo ho. A pirates life for me. We pillage, plunder, and loot. Drink up... Now, I will join Captain Jack Sparrow as we plunder and loot the internet seas of software, music, and

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Willem
:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Ari, I totally understand where those people are coming from in the cases below, and I can sympathize with their situation. Unfortunately, that isn't the fault of the company that produced the product in question. It is the fault

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread darren harris
I like it!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 06 February 2008 20:19 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Darren, Quote If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread josh
:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, Well, it is true that Jaws, Window Eyes, Hal, etc do cost quite a bit of cash, but there are now free and low cost alternatives in the works. NVDA is totally free, and is good enough for most day to day use. My Universal Screen Access

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, Hmmm... it is really a tough choice. If we are going to try and be 100% legal then that means we have to buy copyrights, pay for all music, descriptive vidios, audio books, etc. As a result the quality of life for the average blind person will go down in quality since we would have

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread Jeremy Gilley
- From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Nicol, Quote Isn't south American countries part of the united states? End quote No. South America is a completely

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread shaun everiss
list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I guess then I shouldn't have recorded tv shows and coppied cassettes for people when I was a teenager because that is or was piracy also? - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread shaun everiss
and linux I hope. If nvda could read all the programs I'd gladly switch. And if your reader is as good as jaws that would really rock. I have been putting off the upgrade to vista for mostly that reason. Its going to cost a load just to get the computers upgraded, well a small load for the main

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread shaun everiss
: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I think he was refering to the fact that selling the game Beep for any price, no matter how low, with be a completely stupid move, as all you do is hit the space bar for 5 minutes, then its over! Just my

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-06 Thread shaun everiss
I'd be happy if I could subscribe to discriptive tracks. But even though people pushed for that it never happened. At 09:53 a.m. 7/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Yohandy, Hmmm... it is really a tough choice. If we are going to try and be 100% legal then that means we have to buy copyrights, pay for all

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
: constantine (on laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but: 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
yeah, music and audio is one thing software is another. At 04:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Damien, Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing to bet most of us have copied a music cd, recorded a music tape, etc and gave it to a friend not thinking much about it.

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
registration, encryption and recording systems. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam and all, I haven't

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
right on the nail tom as always. At 03:51 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Charles, Well, the answer to your question is simple. Humans lie best when we lie to ourselves. We are masters of making up double standards such as software cracking is wrong until it is inconvenient for me. Charles Rivard

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
well I am around 25 now, I try to stay as free as I can without going alegal software wise. I still do music though. Really would run out of space if I didn't have mp3s. At 04:41 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Charles, I am glad you liked my message. It is one of those insights that comes with

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day You say, and I quote, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something like beep you were selling for 30 bucks, heck yes 'd crack

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day and why do we need to reg it anyway I can play the entire thing as it is. At 12:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're not supporting it anymore Liam

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Liam, I know how much work goes into making games. And I know that there is even more if you are trying to sell them, have on line play or score boards. Truthfully I have never bought an accessible game. However I have never ever cracked or run a cracked one either. I do have a few of

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
, Damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam and all, I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day You say, and I quote, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something like beep you were

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
This is the kind of attitude which clearly shows a 2-faced mentality. On one hand you say you don't pirate software, then on the other hand, you say you pirate music. What's the difference? Amazing hypocrisy. shaun everiss said the following on 2/5/2008 3:29 AM: well I am around 25 now, I try

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Kuvvosh
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:39 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Why do you need to format once a month. You don't have to do that unless something is failing

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Trouble
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day You say, and I quote, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something like

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Willem
] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I tried to program but gave in, did some courses and just didn't get interested. I do try to stay as legally free if I can, about 98% of software is free, shareware

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Michael Feir
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day This is the kind of attitude which clearly shows a 2-faced mentality. On one hand you say you don't pirate software, then on the other hand, you say you

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Willem
10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day yeah, music and audio is one thing software is another. At 04:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Hi Damien, Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing to bet most of us have copied a music cd, recorded a music tape

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Willem
. Sarah and the gma games are examples. - Original Message - From: Kuvvosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Well I don't crack, but I do have a prob with some

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread James Scholes
Well said, Thomas! -- From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam and all, I haven't cracked any of your games

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread James Scholes
Indeed it does. -- From: Damien Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:54 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I think it restricts the bonus round. Regards, Damien

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread oriol gómez
] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:54 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I think it restricts the bonus round. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Tj
- From: James Scholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I think he was refering to the fact that selling the game Beep for any price, no matter how low, with be a completely

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread ari
Given what Thomas says, to me the piracy question is relative, in some cases and for some products, I have seen cases where I would justify piracy, but, in this case, I think it's awful. We must remember that Liam is not some multi-million-dollar company, and I also don't think he's charging

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread ari
Who knows, you might get some poor guy who'll pay you for that, grin! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Trouble
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day You say, and I quote, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something like beep you were selling

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread blindguy250
! -- From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam and all, I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some explanation as to why

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Liam Erven
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Come on now, that's just unfare, I created a list for software downloads because a lot of people asked me too, and as is stated

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Liam Erven
, February 05, 2008 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Well said, except James Scholes created a list for everything piracy. So, yeah. Well said Thom. , if you need more info about this list I could supply it. Email me offlist though. On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:38:30 -

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Charles Rivard
, February 05, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Given what Thomas says, to me the piracy question is relative, in some cases and for some products, I have seen cases where I would justify piracy, but, in this case, I think it's awful. We must remember that Liam

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread James Scholes
audio games, so why would I use pirated copies of them? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 6:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Well said, except James

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Willem
Well said. - Original Message - From: Michael Feir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day It's been a while but I believe I'll step into the dirt this time around. I'm

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Darren Harris
Here's my take on the subject. If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that. Whether it be downloading mp3's or games or what ever. Games and software I don't pirate in case I need the technical support. But for stull like jaws cracks and the like I can definitely see why

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Bryan
If everyone shared and swallowed their pride Then we'd see the day when nobody died. Nickelback, If Everyone Cared - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Charles Rivard
] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Here's my take on the subject. If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that. Whether it be downloading mp3's or games or what ever

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Darren Harris
Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day At least GW Micro lets you buy Window-Eyes on time. FS doesn't let you do that for JAWS. But tell me this. What if you need techncal support for that screen reader you pirated? As far as i'm concerned it's no different. If everyone cared

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
yeah I know, I think most copy mp3s, though, they are everyware. Even copying a cd is pirating even if its for personal use. I think though it will even itself out once the industry goes digital, its already happening. Its just the industry wasn't ready at the time. At 02:35 a.m. 6/02/2008, you

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
that your screen reader will read. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day I tried to program but gave in, did some courses and just didn't

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day If you format that much. Then either you got major issues with the box and hardware or just need computer lessons. At 01:22 AM 2/5/2008, you wrote: Ok, I have the judgmenent day crack too

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
at: www.blindspots.net - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day This is the kind of attitude which clearly shows a 2-faced mentality

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
Yeah, in the perfect world we buy software thats good and everyone puts in their share. Ofcause its not, some choose to copy software and at the other end some software companies especially the bigger ones can sell software for high prices thats prety much a pile of dung and not worth it at

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread shaun everiss
Although I don't pirate jaws and stuff yeah reader companies do charge loads. Jaws is supposed to be now charged with tax now to. At 08:56 a.m. 6/02/2008, you wrote: Here's my take on the subject. If you're a pirate, you're a pirate. You can't say any more than that. Whether it be downloading

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, As a game developer a thought comes to mind is there any particular reason why you don't have a Paypal.com account? A Paypal.com account is free, can be used world wide, allows direct bank transfers, credit cards, and even electronic checks. It just seams to me saying you cracked a

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-05 Thread Charles Rivard
, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, yes but with gw-micro you don't have to pirate because they have a monthly payment plan now. the only one that doesn't is freedom scientific. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Damien Sadler
, Damien - Original Message - From: Tj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Tourin 64 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM HDD - Original Message - From: Ryan Chou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day okay liam I admit

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Tj
(on laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but: 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Rivard
, February 04, 2008 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam, I personally have found it just fine. I don't understand why people just fork out the money for high quality games. I mean, if it was something like beep you were selling for 30 bucks, heck yes 'd crack

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Rivard
@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day okay liam I admit it I cracked JD because well I couldn't buy it because I don't have pay pal, nothing --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Liam Erven
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day okay liam I admit it I cracked JD because well I couldn't buy it because I don't have pay pal, nothing On 2/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Liam Erven
make a spot of difference. - Original Message - From: constantine (on laptop) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but: 1

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Rivard
04, 2008 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but: 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does this cost)? Its really hard for me as I don't own a credit card, and well, I guess I could ask my mom

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, I'll admit that I used to crack audio games about when I first came into the community, probably about a year ago, and I was actually stupid enough to believe, oh free, I'll take it. Then people are like its wrong, and I then learned it was cracking, and devs were trying to make money, so I

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Damien Sadler
@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi, I don't have a pay pal acount iether, but but but: 1. In future, can devs please make money order possible (or does this cost)? Its really hard for me as I don't own a credit card

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Liam Erven
: Monday, February 04, 2008 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're not supporting it anymore Liam, is there any way that it can be registered? I mean, I can't vuy it. I can't register it. And there's

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Liam and all, I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate. A few years ago, back in my late teens and early 20's, I use to heavily be

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
and why do we need to reg it anyway I can play the entire thing as it is. At 12:20 p.m. 5/02/2008, you wrote: Speaking of cracks, what the blowing heck did Super Shot go. Since you're not supporting it anymore Liam, is there any way that it can be registered? I mean, I can't vuy it. I can't

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Charles Rivard
: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day Hi Liam and all, I haven't cracked any of your games, but I think I can offer up some explanation as to why people are cracking your games. To understand you need to get into the mind of a cracker and software pirate. A few years ago, back in my late teens

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread shaun everiss
I aggree, I don't have a credit card and may not have one for some time, i don't use one. My parents get the stuff but this means I can't always have the things I whant when I like. Cheques are not that secure though same with money orders. I think a load of us do or should have net banking so

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Damien Sadler
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day ya know. now that I got my main machien back up, I really should do something with it. I'm not really sure why it's as popular as it is, but I guess I should support

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun and all, I don't know if you are aware of this but you can do direct bank transfers and electronic checks with paypal.com as well as credit card payments. Even if you don't have a credit card you can pay directly from your checking account. There should be no reason to crack software

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Exactly. That was one of the points I was trying to get at. I am willing to bet most of us have copied a music cd, recorded a music tape, etc and gave it to a friend not thinking much about it. Well, I use to feel that way about cracking software.I was very idealistic, and sort of

Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day

2008-02-04 Thread Damien Sadler
I think it restricts the bonus round. Regards, Damien - Original Message - From: shaun everiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] piracy of judgment day and why do we

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