Re: while we were having a few irrelevant conversations...reallybad stuff was happening..

humm If I had to guess he posted the wrong link. I'll forward it to you. On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 23:22, Sam Ruby wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > > http://www3.usermagnet.com/nl/jlnews_20020503.html > > > > Rick Ross just got subpoenaed by Microsoft. For what? From what I can > > tell writ

Re: while we were having a few irrelevant conversations...really bad stuffwas happening..

Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > http://www3.usermagnet.com/nl/jlnews_20020503.html > > Rick Ross just got subpoenaed by Microsoft. For what? From what I can > tell writing mean things like "I stand with Sun" or something. > Kinda scary. Odd... the link in that story goes to http://developer.apple.c

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

> Martin Poeschl wrote: > > > > there are only 2 apache developers on the ojb developer list (Jason van Zyl and me) > > i think it would be good to give the other ojb developers some time to see how > > everything works here . > > I think I need to speak more often then :) Admittedly, I'm onl

while we were having a few irrelevant conversations...really badstuff was happening..

http://www3.usermagnet.com/nl/jlnews_20020503.html Rick Ross just got subpoenaed by Microsoft. For what? From what I can tell writing mean things like "I stand with Sun" or something. Kinda scary. *now I think its okay to bark about the evil empire* -Andy -- http://www.superlinksoftware.co

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

Whooops ignore my last note, I missed this one about you rebuilding everything. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I'm sure someone else will manage it but some of the lists have zero > > entries, e.g. turbine-maven-dev > >I know, old problem. I'm regenerating the mbox indices now (which is >goin

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

What happened to the one at http://nagoya.apache.org:8080/eyebrowse/ViewLists It had all the lists archived instead of the few that are showing up now? > >Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for >JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. > >The baby is running

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

On 5/3/02 9:30 PM, "Daniel Rall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> with my standard settings: >> >> >> Ejemplo de Cabecera de Request >> >> Host hisitech.com:8080 >> Accept >> text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/p

RE: Maven is growing

C'mon guys personal attacks aren't worth our time. Communities have a diverse range of people. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers "Sale, Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/04/02 05:12 AM Please

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 6:01 PM, "Thomas Mahler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Welcome, Thomas. > Hi, > > Martin Poeschl wrote: > > >> there are only 2 apache developers on the ojb developer list (Jason van Zyl >> and me) >> i think it would be good to give the other ojb developers some time to see >> how >

RE: Maven is growing

agreed. the swearing (http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg05130.html), self-congratulating web page (http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html), and general attitude is disheartening. most of us don't need others to step in and defend our 'nice-guy' status. > -Original M

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

petite_abeille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > >> Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for >> JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. >> >> The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed he

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > with my standard settings: > > > Ejemplo de Cabecera de Request > > Host hisitech.com:8080 > Accept > >text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,video/x-mng,image/png,image/jpeg,image/gif;q=0.2,text/css,*/*;q

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm sure someone else will manage it but some of the lists have zero > entries, e.g. turbine-maven-dev I know, old problem. I'm regenerating the mbox indices now (which is going to make nagoya very slow for a bit, btw). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

RE: You guys are so funny.

> People who are clearly without a clue. > Hypocrites. But then it seems that any one that disagrees with you gets included in one (or both) of the above categories. And you often don't recognize these ones even if they bite you: > Real suggestions for improvement. > Intelligent

RE: You guys are so funny.

> I got proven wrong from the > point of view > that enough people wanted T3 to survive. I got proven right that T3 > distracted a limited set of resources (ie: people) from T4. Uau! You already got HALF way. You just still don't understand that T4 probably has more resources thanks to T3 stayi

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

I'm sure someone else will manage it but some of the lists have zero entries, e.g. turbine-maven-dev -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers Pier Fumagalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/04/02 04:34 AM Ple

RE: You guys are so funny.

> I do that because I believe standards are essential - even if > 'simpler' pet-solutions exist. Standards are the only way to > get people to work togheter - and DocBook, HTML, XSLT are > the standards. Costin, Being you quite a brilliant guy, I don't understand two troubles you seem to hav

RE: You guys are so funny.

> Hey, Paulo! Let's meet! We can become friends and switch xsl:templates! Sorry Steven, I know well both XSLT and Velocity and Velocity sure is more productive. Of course that from the way Jon talks about me you can tell that I do not always agree with him - Jon seems to only be friendly to tho

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

"Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and >> > I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like > it), > > > but out of curi

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

Jon Scott Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > on 5/3/02 1:58 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Dude... is that available to other projects? Secondly, are there any >> bugs stored in it? I tried to run a few queries to try it out and got >> no results. I'd love to try sca

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

Hi, Martin Poeschl wrote: > there are only 2 apache developers on the ojb developer list (Jason van Zyl and me) > i think it would be good to give the other ojb developers some time to see how > everything works here . > I agree. We (the OJB developers) will need some time to get used to

RE: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

> on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and > > I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like it), > > but out of curiosity, how is this sort of thing decided? I've seen no

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

Can we get the POI mail archives on there? Thanks, Andy Santiago Gala wrote: > Pier Fumagalli wrote: > >> >> >> It's internet explorer not sending the correct locale... Daniel's >> aware of >> that, and a fix is shortcoming... Use mozilla! :) >> >> > > Tis is mozilla: > > org.apache.vel

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

> > Andy, > > I am loving Scarab too. I have a copy installed on my laptop (along > with MySQL and Tomcat). It's administration is clean, the app is well > documented and user friendly. > > Last time I inquired about it, Jason Van Zyl said that it was a testing > area. By virtue of the fact tha

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and > > I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like it), > > but out of curiosity,

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

> > > >I don't think anyone has been using it much yet. > >On top of it, the version on nagoya is way old...:-( > >It is very easy to install. > >-jon > Any plans to upgrade? Anything I can do to help? Bugzilla is not my favorite and I've been watching scarab from time to time and salivating.

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Dude... is that available to other projects? Secondly, are there any > bugs stored in it? I tried to run a few queries to try it out and got > no results. I'd love to try scarab and might convince POI to use it. > But I'd rather kinda start sooner rather than later

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

on 5/3/02 1:58 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dude... is that available to other projects? Secondly, are there any > bugs stored in it? I tried to run a few queries to try it out and got > no results. I'd love to try scarab and might convince POI to use it. > But I'd rathe

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

Dude... is that available to other projects? Secondly, are there any bugs stored in it? I tried to run a few queries to try it out and got no results. I'd love to try scarab and might convince POI to use it. But I'd rather kinda start sooner rather than later because once we have a lot of

Re: Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

on 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have anything against Scarab (in fact I may even prefer it), and > I've no particular love for BugZilla (in fact I don't especially like it), > but out of curiosity, how is this sort of thing decided? I've seen no > ment

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > >It's internet explorer not sending the correct locale... Daniel's aware of >that, and a fix is shortcoming... Use mozilla! :) > > Tis is mozilla: org.apache.velocity.exception.MethodInvocationException: Invocation of method 'get("PageTitle")' in class org.tigris

Scarab (was RE: [ANN] in-house mail archive...)

At http://nagoya.apache.org/ I now see: > The BugZilla Bug Tracking System > BugZilla is the Bug Tracking System currently used by most Apache projects. > The Scarab Issue Tracking System > Scarab is an alternative Issue Tracking System and it will shortly replace the current BugZilla installa

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

"petite_abeille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > >> Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for >> JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. >> >> The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be acces

Re: [ANN] in-house mail archive...

On Friday, May 3, 2002, at 08:34 PM, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for > JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. > > The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed here: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/ Great... bu

[ANN] in-house mail archive...

Thank to Daniel Rall, we finally have an in-house mail archive for JAKARTA.APACHE.ORG, with all our history so far. The baby is running on Tigris' EyeBrowse and can be accessed here: http://nagoya.apache.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands,

Re: Maven is growing

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > well, just yesterday we had: > > [daedalus] 10:56am ~ > grep -c "/maven/" 02 > 7546 > > Looks like the *entire* life of your project has been around 9500... > > OhhA My english vocabulary is too limited to express what I feel

Re: Maven is growing

You know how many views /. gets? Microsoft.com? This is getting _really_ silly. LOL On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 20:00, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. > > project just switc

Apple/Java (was RE: You guys are so funny.)

i'm fairly new to Apple & OS/X (about a month w/ my TiBook), and have thus not run into the native code dependency problems (yet). i'm all for anything that would elevate the dev community's issues to both camps (Sun/Apple). -doug > -Original Message- > From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAI

Re: Maven is growing

on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. > project just switched repositories. O...page views dude?...you didn't say that... well, just yesterday we had: [daedalus] 10:56am ~ > grep -c "/maven/" 02 7546

Re: Maven is growing

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >> >>>on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 >>> >>> >>>50 cvs actions over th

Re: Maven is growing

on 5/3/02 10:37 AM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >> on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 >> >> >> 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? >> >> Ooo..

Re: You guys are so funny.

On 5/3/02 1:04 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) >>> >>> Same here... Everywhere... :) >>> >> >> Me too. I'm hooked. TiBook wherever I go, dualie 800 at home. Can't go >> back. > > > I

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 1:14 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >>> They _will_ be apache people. >> >> Of course they _will_ be apache people, but they _aren't_ now. That isn't a >> bad thing, a criticism or an insult. Just recognizing the r

Re: Apple. Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 10:04 AM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care > > about Apple users and that Apple can't supply the time to support Java > > users. > > Well duh. Apple'

Re: Maven is growing

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 > > > 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? > > OooAhh And who is the hypocrite this time? From a previous post of

Re: Maven is growing

page views dude, just my way of thanking you for publicity. project just switched repositories. Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 >> > >50 cvs actions over the life of the project?

Re: Maven is growing

on 5/3/02 10:19 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 50 cvs actions over the life of the project? OooAhh -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Apple. Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/3/02 10:04 AM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care > about Apple users and that Apple can't supply the time to support Java > users. Well duh. Apple's business model doesn't revolve around Java. > Apple are d

Re: Maven is growing

Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > Nice to see people who are upset about Maven actually recognizing that it is > pretty cool and can be made better (have to start somewhere, right?). > > Berin posted this: > > >>Despite my comments on General@, I really like what maven offers. There >>are some things

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/3/02 9:57 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you point out where the jar name is in the scarab/build/default.properties > file? > > - Sam Ruby In Velocity/DVSL, it would be built something like this (assuming a java.util.Properties in the context as "props": $props.getString(

Re: Maven is growing

http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=36516 Jon Scott Stevens wrote: >Nice to see people who are upset about Maven actually recognizing that it is >pretty cool and can be made better (have to start somewhere, right?). > >Berin posted this: > >>Despite my comments on General@, I really l

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > They _will_ be apache people. > > Of course they _will_ be apache people, but they _aren't_ now. That isn't a > bad thing, a criticism or an insult. Just recognizing the reality. The project was aproved by the PMC - so their commiters _are_ ja

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) > > > > Same here... Everywhere... :) > > > > Me too. I'm hooked. TiBook wherever I go, dualie 800 at home. Can't go > back. The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care about Apple

Maven is growing

Nice to see people who are upset about Maven actually recognizing that it is pretty cool and can be made better (have to start somewhere, right?). Berin posted this: > Despite my comments on General@, I really like what maven offers. There > are some things that I would like to have in Maven or

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Stevens wrote: > >> Simple example: given an Scarab's build.xml file, can you write a DVSL >> which extracts the name of the jar which can be produced? > > Yes, cause I can just put a simple object 'java.util.Properties' into the > context which gets it out of the default.properties file. Can

Re: You guys are so funny.

On 5/3/02 12:38 PM, "Pier Fumagalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard >>> and friendly GUI. >> >> I am.

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/3/02 4:08 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simple example: given an Scarab's build.xml file, can you write a DVSL > which extracts the name of the jar which can be produced? > > - Sam Ruby Yes, cause I can just put a simple object 'java.util.Properties' into the context which ge

RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

Henri Yandell wrote: > +1 on Jakarta.OJB. > -1 on Jakarta.DB-Commons unless otherwise convinced. > -1 on db.apache.org, unless people start offering bribes. I agree with all that. Let's let something like jakarta-db[commons] or db.apache.org evolve naturally. Start small and let it grow. It

Re: You guys are so funny.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard > >> and friendly GUI. > > > > I am. I use a mac w/ OS

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > My point is that, like it or not (I like it, Costin doesn't) there is some > benefit of letting like minded people form a community unto themselves - > this is the whole argument behind bringing XML and Jakarta together - lots > of like minded pe

Re: You guys are so funny.

"Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Stevens wrote: >> >> Maven is more than just a build system. > > And Gump does at least one thing that Maven does not. And Centipede does > at least one thing that neither of then do. > > So what you end up with is a venn diagram of information that

Re: You guys are so funny.

"Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard >> and friendly GUI. > > I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) Same here... Everywhere... :) Pier -- To uns

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 12:04 PM, "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >>> I'm also very unhappy with the xml/jakarta separation and >>> the balkanisation of apache - as well shown by the current >>> maven/forest/cocoon/centipede discussion, where

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > I'm also very unhappy with the xml/jakarta separation and > > the balkanisation of apache - as well shown by the current > > maven/forest/cocoon/centipede discussion, where even xml.apache.org > > is affected by jakarta's NIH. > > > > So I'll be

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 10:56 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >> I'll iterate : the point isn't just for it to be OJB, but to put together a >> package of projects that want to do this. I think the only way for it to be >> a strong apache c

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I'll iterate : the point isn't just for it to be OJB, but to put together a > package of projects that want to do this. I think the only way for it to be > a strong apache community is if it has a large amount of apache > participation. The only w

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 9:51 AM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean this? > >> [jakarta-commons] shall create and maintain packages written >> in the Java language, intended for use in server-related >> development, and designed to be used independently of any >

RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

You mean this? > [jakarta-commons] shall create and maintain packages written > in the Java language, intended for use in server-related > development, and designed to be used independently of any > larger product or framework. ^^^

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 8:24 AM, "Waldhoff, Rodney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Berin wrote: > >> There are some things we have in Excalibur that we *can't* >> donate to Commons because the charter does not allow it >> (I think its something about the project can't rely on >> non-commons projects or somethin

RE: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

Berin wrote: > There are some things we have in Excalibur that we *can't* > donate to Commons because the charter does not allow it > (I think its something about the project can't rely on > non-commons projects or something). What gives you that idea? Many if not most commons projects rely

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

> > The only problem is that yours so far is the only public positive comment > > so far. I let it stew for a bit and will talk to OJB in the intrim, but if > > people don't see this as a good idea, then it very could might not be. well, if you insist, +1 then ;) As long as there's room for ava

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002 20:37, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > I have no idea why they want to move here, but to me, being the 'marquee' > project in a new Apache subproject has incredible upside for a project > trying to establish 'mindshare' in what seems to be a confusing vertical. > No doubt, being par

Re: You guys are so funny.

Jon Stevens wrote: > > Maven is more than just a build system. And Gump does at least one thing that Maven does not. And Centipede does at least one thing that neither of then do. So what you end up with is a venn diagram of information that each requires - however the "overlap" are is informat

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 6:37 AM, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> In the end I think it would be best move for OJB group (much better awareness >> and promotion and in the end development) however it comes down to whether >> they want to do it and if there is enough Apache volunteers to ge

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

James Strachan wrote: > From: "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>On Thu, 02 May 2002, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Costin suggested, and I supported, that a subproject of wider scope >>>be created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one >>>larger

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 2:55 AM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2002 11:44, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >> On 5/2/02 6:33 PM, "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> OJB deserves to be a peer to other projects alongside ant, avalon, struts >>> etc >> >> For future r

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 2:02 AM, "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 02 May 2002, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Costin suggested, and I supported, that a subproject of wider scope >> be created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one >> larger subcommun

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On 5/3/02 3:06 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > >>> So much like xml.apache.org deals with XML, db.apache.org will deal >>> with databases (maybe even collaborate with xml.apache.org/xindice in >>> future). >> >> So I propose t

Re: You guys are so funny.

on 5/2/02 10:38 PM, "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's everything you need to know to build Ant: > > http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/~checkout~/jakarta-ant/build.xml > > I guess there is no need to build a maven descriptor for Ant then? Sorry, > but it is not that simple. > > - Sam

Re: BTW - You guys aren't so funny.

>Just thought I would let you know. +1 The same old discussion -> mine is longer then yours. Greets Gerhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Fri, 3 May 2002, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only made a comment that I think a larger scope for the project > would be usefull. That's been my understanding of it - and I agree with the comment 8-) Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

From: "Stefan Bodewig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 02 May 2002, Geir Magnusson, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Costin suggested, and I supported, that a subproject of wider scope > > be created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one > > larger subcommunity. > > First of a

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

On Thu, 2 May 2002, Bill Barker wrote: > +1 > Unless Costin's proposal is to kick it up to the Apache PMC, then all the I only made a comment that I think a larger scope for the project would be usefull. Many jakarta projects are out of scope ( or at least doing many things that are hardly r