Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > project. I do kinda think a project proposal might be premature since > > the specification isn't public yet. > > I was trying not to post the obvious, but yes: this seems largely > premature. No code, a restricted communi

Re: New Projects

Have there been others than Charon/Pluto [which seem to be the same thing ish]? Hen On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > What is it with IBM people suddenly wanting to start projects based around > JSR's? Looks suspicious to me. > > -jon > > -- > StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertai

Re: Light Weight JDO Implementation?

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: > Greetings, > > I was wondering if there was a JDO implementation in the planning stages. Not heard of any group at Apache doing so except the OJB people. > I know, you are probably going to answer, "Go look at OJB." However, > to face reality, OJB w

Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Luta, Raphael (VUN) wrote: > From: Henri Yandell generationjava.com> > > > > Is this different from Tomcat and/or JSTL? If so, how? > > > > I'm clueless on portlets, but from my 'vague consumer' view, I thought > > th

Re: Forum Software.

So the suggestion is: All Users lists become forums. Developer lists stay. Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface. Hen On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: > Well, once again I would l

Re: wow

Looks terrible. The size is wrong. Was this sarcasm? :) It's too early in the morning to notice. On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > The logo on this page looksWonderful! > http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog/index.html > > (mozilla 1.2.1 and IE 6.x) > > -Andy > > > > > > -- > T

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

This seems to come up every now and then, so I'm just mentioning what I remember from the previous times it has come up. The word from on high is that LGPL is not to be distributed from Apache. [ie no jars etc]. No legal action has officially been taken due to the lack of funds to throw away on s

Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?

On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote: > (http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/) > > I contacted the main developper and he seems to be ok > with making OpenTG a jakarta project. > > So what do you think about it as a sub-project, or as a > jakarta-commons subprojec ? I have reservatio

Re: (PHP interperated via Java) [Fwd: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 2003/1/10 5:06 AM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I thought this might be interesting to some folks... They're porting > > PHP to Java... > > Yea, it is called JSP w/ scriptlets. JSP2.0 w/ JSTL. Full of ${blah} variables to

Re: nice

Interesting points. Who runs the JCP? Is Apache just a member, or an actual runner? If so, is it Apache's role to comment in anyway on the current disatisfaction with the hidden-ness of the JCP? Or is that the JCP themselves [if such exists] role? [Apache's role, along with all the other top-lev

Re: nice

can be a > member and your vote counts. JCP is what Java has that .NET never will and > that is why .NET will win. > > -- Robert > > - Original Message - > From: "Henri Yandell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL P

Re: nice

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: > > But who speaks for JCP? > > Those who chose to be involved. I'm not sure I'm conveying the question properly. As an Apache committer, I am unable to speak on behalf of the ASF. Equally, as a JCP member I would not be able to speak on behalf of JCP.

Re: nice

[Electricity outages tonight mean my DNS is down. But looking at the JCP in a text browser the mail archives are at: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/jcp-interest.html Time for more spam :) Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simm

Re: nice

, Henri Yandell wrote: > > [Electricity outages tonight mean my DNS is down. But looking at the JCP > in a text browser the mail archives are at: > > http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/jcp-interest.html > > Time for more spam :) > > Hen > > On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henr

Re: Logging strategy

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Paul Hammant wrote: > > [..] to choose between log4j, LogKit, > > commons-logging or even JDK1.4-Logging? > > There is also logging delivered by Avalon-Framework. I thought that was LogKit Paul? > > My personal view is that the makers of reusable components sh

Re: nice

It's only by understanding the JCP and infiltrating it that we have much chance to try and change it though. The whole thing is just one opaque block from here. Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > > Real life business shouldn't be bullshit. I'm not going to buy into that. It >

Re: nice

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > We have 'infiltrated' it. The ASF is a member of the J2SE/J2EE > executive committee (I am the current representative), and we have many > members (and non-members) participating in various JSRs. Yeah I know. Thus my questions as to whether Apac

Re: Logging strategy

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 2003/1/29 5:56 AM, "Ceki Gülcü" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I believe log4j is here to stay. Its user base is large and > > growing. As time passes, more people will gravitate to it as it keeps > > improving. We have enough cool features in

Re: nice

So the solution for committers who would like to be involved in the JCP is to hand around their announce list and website, when a particular new JSR is announced they can go volunteer. If successful, then they would do the agreement thing and be an ASF representative? Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Jo

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Santiago Gala wrote: > > Agreed, good supporting feedback, and this is something that is a > current topic of interest in the JCP EC. We (the members of the EC, > the ASF being a member) are intereste

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

Mr RMS then needs to publish something about using LGPL/GPL with Java. Personally I agree with the need for LGPL for library applications, however LGPL's wording is phrased in C terminology and I have never seen anyone offering good legal advice on whether LGPL is usable with Java properly. So th

The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

[Welcome to session #7829 of the open source UN] While I agree with Dion that the look and feel is secondary to content, unification of labels is the most important thing. Users should expect a project site to contain a certain set of content types, and a certain name for each content type. Actu

Re: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 31/01/2003 02:28:59 PM: > > How about we give these items some names: Sounds good. > > 1) Where do I download? > Downloads > > 2) Has their been a release? > Relea

RE: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Christoph Wilhelms wrote: > Sorry! Just picking one point, but :)! Slice it all apart, one point at a time :) > > > > 7) What Apache community does Project X belong to? > > > What's an Apache community? Do you mean 'top-level project'? > > > > Nope. Like, Jakarta should po

Re: The Jakarta Site

til such a time as it goes into one of the above] *** @author: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @creation: 2003/01/31 @state: proposal @version: 0.1 Introduction Purpose --- To create a low buy-in contract

RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

hn Keyes > > > Larry Isaacs > > > Otis Gospodnetic > > > Thomas Mahler > > > Remy Maucherat > > > Glenn Nielsen > > > Andrew C Oliver > > > Rob Oxspring > > > Martin Poe

Re: Review and testing of source code

On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > on 2003/2/4 4:17 PM, "Eric Merhoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Can you please send me or point me to information on how submitted open > > source code is reviewed and tested by the organization before it is made > > available fo

Re: failure notice

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it. > > In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to > be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to > the policies of the Apache Software Foundation

Re: Fun article...

Page 7 [on printer friendly verson]'s Figure 5 lists the number of members each 'company' has in expert groups and lists Apache as having 15. Now, as http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=127 appears to me to have anything from 1 to 4 Apache people on it, I imagine that the article's numbers are wr

RE: Clear the air

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: > JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution. > > I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses > maven. > I would like to see the tools and standards developed be independent of the > build tool. This do

RE: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:29, Nick Chalko wrote: > > > > > > > > > I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven > > repository > > has been an essential tool for me for me. > > The next step is to play nice with gump. >

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35: > > > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: > > > >> > > JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you > > build this into maven rather than i

RE: Clear the air

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: > I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or > ant). > > I am proposing an Project to handle dependencies, versioning, and downloads. > > The new project being separate from both Maven and Centipede but useable by > both (or oth

Re: Clear the air

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: > > > > *nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper > > has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven > > and > > Centipede communi

Re: [Proposal] Jakarta Ruper

On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 15:38, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal > > > > I've set up a proposal about a Jakarta project for a Repository Project > > on the wiki. Below is the current content. > > > > Maven

Re: PMC Nomination

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. > > Would it be quicker just to make all active committers PMC members by > default? If the idea is that every release-ma

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

Nominating like this seems counter-productive. At least in the spirit it usually occurs. ie) lots of +1's thrown about on the list etc. It'll be a nightmare. Why not just go into a nomination phase in which someone [I'm happy to do this if need be] collates a list of nominations, and then the ent

Re: MS vs Open Source link

I can understand them thinking that. I had my gut feeling on it slightly off for a while, mainly as I was viewing one type of software. ie) Say I grab an LGPL/GPL Java library and incorporate it into my product, which btw I install onto client's machines via jnlp. As I am distributing a product,

Re: Would Jakarta like to adopt MaybeUpload?

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Simon Brooke wrote: > On Friday 21 Feb 2003 9:18 am, Henri Gomez wrote: > > Jon Scott Stevens wrote: > > > > Why not merge both projects ? > > I'd be happy to do that. I have working code, and a good, high-level API - > much higher level than the commons fileupload package.

Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Dever wrote: > Vote results? It unclear even when a vote is taking place and who the > nominees are. I thought we just finished a round on the 19th with an > agreement that these should be done in batches. Now Pier is up as a > nominee again and after one vote fro

Re: New Project

On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: > Federico wrote: > > Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart > > I cannot "compute" finished + software together. s/finished/of release\/alpha\/beta quality/ Hen ---

Re: Another unused import statement report is out...

Anyway of turning off the: "Avoid unused local variables such as 'obj'" for classes which extend TestCase? It's not something to avoid in a TestCase, as it tests the type of the returned value. These warnings make it hard to see the real problems. Even if it's only a grep for TestCase.java and

RE: Another unused import statement report is out...

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: > Hi Henri - > > Hm, I'm sorry, I don't understand the TestCase thing... are you doing > something like: > > import junit.framework.*; > public class FooTest extends TestCase { > public void testFiddle() { > Object obj = doSomething(); > } > } > > or

RE: Another unused import statement report is out...

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > I still don't understand what the hubub about unused imports is about. I think it's clean, but if a public report is made on code and shows somethign that is wrong with the code, then I'm happy to put the effort into fixing it. Especially if th

Re: Another unused import statement report is out...

On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Copeland" writes: > >assertTrue("Whoa, doSomething returned a non-Fred type!", doSomething() > >instanceof Fred); > > I retract my comment about needing to do something with the variable. > Tom's comment her

Re: Using daedalus to deploy the httpclienttest.war

Afaik, Daedalus/icarus are not likely to have Java containers on them [partly because they're BSD and therefore lack a stable Java and partly because they're just busy]. Maybe Nagoya could be doing this? I know it'd be nice if Jakarta-taglib wars could be deployed somewhere so people can see what

Re: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Henri Gomez wrote: > Paulo Silveira wrote: > > Sorry not giving a link the other time. Here is Apache voting against > > JSR 127 long time ago. > > In such case we could (should) understand ASF position. I can understand it if the ASF were worried that a JSR would put the ex

Re: Free java profiler tools for open source projects?

I believe the only one was RefactorIt. At least, that's the main one I remember from the discussion and the one whose licence file I have sitting in my home dir :) Hen On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > Hi, > > I remember a thread on 'some' ASF list about the availability of a > number

Re: Free java profiler tools for open source projects?

I'm guessing it is: EclipseProfiler http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipsecolorer/ Built in profiler On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Stéphane Mor wrote: > On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:40AM -0500, otisg wrote: > > I don't know of any commercial profilers > > that open source developers can

Re: so many jars

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Right, now for my question : The dependancies for many projets are > pretty much the same, projets come with the jars they depend on > (and some do not) which makes for a lot of duplication. Is there a quick > way around this, a quick way to avoid d

RE: so many jars

at compile-time maybe :) But you still end up with jar duplication, you just get to avoid having to think about it too much when compiling. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Paulo Silveira wrote: > You are looking for MAVEN, thats it > Jar duplication is history > > http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/ma

Re: PMC chair nominations?

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > Morgan Delagrange wrote: > > Sam said that we should obtain "nominations for chair > > from people in the (potentially expanded) PMC ranks by > > the 16th," followed by "[a]n election where every > > member of the PMC has one vote...to be completed on > > t

PMC changes?

Does http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html represent the PMC as it currently is, or does it need updating? What's the status of: "Future steps will include introduction of a concept of an emeritus PMC member, reinstating prior PMC members who are still active. " ? [Sam Ruby, Jan 16th, PM

Re: PMC changes?

On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > Does http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html represent the PMC as it > > currently is, or does it need updating? > > From the ASF's perspective, the official list is in the 'committers' &g

Re: PMC changes?

Ok ok. Done. On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > I've updated the site from the file. Btw, Thomas Mahler's name is not in > > alphabetical order in the file. > > You updated the site but you didn't update the file? Are

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Tom Copeland wrote: > > > > >> +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to > >> use > > > > Let me help you get started: > > > > "Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi,

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

Is this reply FAQ/Wiki'd somewhere? Seems to me to be a good set of questions to ask of an LGPL project to cause happiness all around. Assuming it's okay with the powers that be, boards/committees/usuals. Hen On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > Can you get Mark Wutka to state that hi

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: > Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > > Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking > > and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is > > he the copyright holder? > > > > If so than you should be good to go (from m

Re: [VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

+1 Howard for King On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: > +1 > > On 7/3/03 4:59 PM, "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Did anything every happen on this? I remember ACO sending out a message, but > > I don't know if it > > every made it to a vote. I'd really like t

Re: [VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

On Fri, 4 Jul 2003, Steven Noels wrote: > On 4/07/2003 0:03 Henri Yandell wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Howard for King > > +1 > > Power to Howard. (Who is that guy, BTW?) He's a multi-millionaire who we're being nice to in the hope that he'll st

Re: karma anyone?

On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Nathan Bubna wrote: > 1. There's no good place to report bugs. We really need a "Tools" component > in Bugzilla under the Velocity project. i have no idea how to get this done, > and i'm sure i lack the karma. Usually you request this and someone does it. I'm unsure if Gen

Re: Apache != HTTPD (was Issues with XMLBeans proposal)

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Agreed. On the same topic. Has anyone noticed following on the > marc.theaimsgroup.com [1]? > > * Apache * Projects of the Apache > Server Foundation Might be good to tell them that the J

Re: Apache != HTTPD

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Alex McLintock wrote: > > >Brian McCallister wrote: > > > At 16:28 17/07/03, Erik Price wrote: > >Spoken out loud, I use "Apache Web Server" and in writing I use "Apache > >HTTPD". Once the context is clear (that I am referring to the software > >and not the organization),

RE: mail2.html -> mail.html

That's all very well and good. But why do I have to read the rules to go look at the archives? That frustrates me every time I want to search the archives. Hen On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Danny Angus wrote: > I believe the idea is to make people read the rules first, I wouldn't advise > changing it u

Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003

Just thought I'd point out that the Apache Newsletter is sharing namespace with http://www.apacheweek.com/. I've no idea what that's relationship is to ASF. I've been getting it for years and only just realised that it's not from apache.org. So you might have some confused readers. Hen On Fri,

Re: "jakarta" name - (?vote?)

How about a request to Sun to let it be: java.apache.org? :) Other names: japache.apache.org apachej.apache.org but they're all pretty shitty. If there can be magazines named Java, online sites called Java [JavaWorld etc], why can't Jakarta just be called Apache's Java? Would solve the jakar

Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

Some views: You have a large blob of code with a small number of developers. Some suggest this means you need to get a sourceforge project and get a community going there, but I think that's poor if that's the only way. My recommendation is that you find 3 Apache committers to sponsor your proje

Jakarta Site/index.html

What's the plan for this? [The redirect we have on the index.html at the moment]. When are we going to remove it. How do we ensure that people don't blow it away when they push up news for a release? I did: cp index.html redirect.html cp index2.html index.html cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: Repeat Request: Link to my and ESR's "Asking Smart Questions" page

Will fix. On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Rick Moen wrote: > I realise it's difficult to discern legitimate mail from spam, etc. > arriving at webmaster aliases, but this request has been fallen through > the cracks for more a month, and I'd appreciate some help on it. > > - Forwarded message from rick

Re: Repeat Request: Link to my and ESR's "Asking Smart Questions" page

vice and choose your forum carefully. on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Hen On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: > > Will fix. > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Rick Moen wrote: > > > I realise it's difficult to discern legitimate mail from spam, etc. > >

Re: MPl and ASL compatible?

Depends what you mean by compatible. [IANAL..] BSD licence is a effectively a template licence. ASL is effectively the Apache-instance of a BSD licence. Anything under an ASL licence is owned by Apache. BSD licences are compatible with GPL licences in that if a GPL licence uses a BSD compnent, i

Re: HiveMind: ASL vs. Proprietary

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > Well, I seem to have created a "situation" with HiveMind. > > My employers, WebCT, have pointed out that, really, HiveMind should have > originated officially from their control; despite the weeks of thought > that led up to HiveMind, despite th

Re: Call on Stein to resin

[for amusement value. mine mainly. i don't speak for apache in any way] I too call on Greg to move to Resin. Not that it'll run Python there either, but it'll not run Python faster on port 80. I call on Vik to increase his monthly flames to be once a week, the userbase is demanding more of your

[general] Updating 'whoweare.html'

[in case it's not obvious, this email pertains only to Jakarta committers] http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html is the informal way for Jakarta to let the users know who we are. When you become a Jakarta committer, it is hoped that you will add your name and even a description if you so

Re: Call on Stein to resin

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, mohammad nabil wrote: > > > >Vic, > > > >Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. > >This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta > >project. > >Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. > > > >If

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

Daft question, possibly, but could someone summarise the IP issue that was happening over HiveMind and how it is currently resolved. I've not been following the thread, but I've seen the noise. Is everything squared away and happy? Hen On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Nayak, Prashant wrote: > > Proposal f

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Vic Cekvenich wrote: > > > I think that this is the right list, very few people are intrested about > the incubator. This is about ASF reputation. (It is also about the OSS > reputation, including BSD, Linux, CodeHus, etc.) Why not mail the httpd list then? Or the Ant list?

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

So this proposal is dependent on the grant? Any time line on that? [not trying to get in the way, jsut to do the pmc-thing] On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The offending IP has been taken off-line: this includes the HiveMind CVS > repository, the temporary downloads directory an

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

Cool. Could this be added as a note to the proposal? As a dependency or whatever. Hen On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >From talking with Prashant, the grant is in-progress. Given that these discussions > >tend to ramble on for a couple of weeks, I think the grant will be ready l

Re: [Proposal] HiveMind Service Framework

Quoting: "Note: the current code base reflects an alternate package name, org.apache.commons.hivemind. Subsequent research has shown that HiveMind is not a suitable candidate for the Jakarta Commons. The existing code base will be migrated to the new package during the transition out of the sand

Re: [NOTICE] to all jakarta committers

Slightly OT for us at Jakarta, but would it be worth us requesting that infrastructure guys do this by default? Any person getting an apache account has another email address, so if it by default sets up a .forward as a part of the new user creation process, it'll save a lot of this pain. Hen O

Re: [general] Updating 'whoweare.html'

of the PMC list and the whoweare to compare tomorrow night. This marks the end of this special limited offer. Hen On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: > > [in case it's not obvious, this email pertains only to Jakarta committers] > > http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.h

Re: New project proposal -- Html4Java

Also there's JSF, which also seems to be leaning into attempts to make web creation like gui creation: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/javaserverfaces/ Hen On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Danny Angus wrote: > > > > > > Sounds interesting, but have you seen ECS? > > http://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/index.html > > A

Re: Site and CVS appear to be down

Yep, hitting the same thing. Maybe the last 10 minutes or so for www. Bad thought it was my browser at first. Hen On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Mark R. Diggory wrote: > Seems the www and the cvs.apache.org hosts are currently > unreachable/down. Are others encountering this? > > -Mark > > --

Re: Site and CVS appear to be down

Infrastructure seem to be aware of the problem. There are comments on the infrastructure list. Hen On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: > > Yep, hitting the same thing. Maybe the last 10 minutes or so for www. Bad > thought it was my browser at first. > > Hen > > On W

Re: FeedParser - RSS/Atom parser/serializer contribution to Jakarta.

Topic came up for me recently and there were 3 open source prior arts that I found: http://weblogs.flamefew.net/bayard/archives/000789.html#000789 Informa: LGPL rss4j : Demands Xerces. rsslibj: Hard to find exml dependency. I ended up using the third option. Hen On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Kevin A.

Re: Jakarta Questions

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Rice, Joe wrote: > I'm doing a school project on Jakarta and it's Open Source process. I've > read everything that I could find online and still had a few questions: > > 1. The PMC bylaws say that there are only 7 PMC members. But the credits > page lists 38 people for the

Re: jcs

Sounds like the basic problem is lack of community. Getting community involves publicity and time. Publicity involves web presence and a release. Unless the rest of the turbine community are highly interested in JCS, I'd suggest that joining Commons is the best way for you to gain community. It'

Re: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, robert burrell donkin wrote: > (i'm a little inclined towards db but) i'd support a proposal from the > JCS team for a future in either db or jakarta (along the lines outlined > above). guys - have you come to any opinions about what's the best > option yet? My only worry wi

RE: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

So your preference, as the development-community of JCS, is for a top-level-jakarta project, ie) at the log4j level? If so, we can take that up with the PMC and see what views there are. As the development community, your (and James) views count a lot, though the smallness of community is the wor

jakarta-future Was: [POLL] Future Of Turbine-JCS

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Costin Manolache wrote: > Or even better - since jakarta has a single PMC, it could also have a single > list of committers ( most of them in the single PMC ). > > Each PMC member can vote about any jakarta issue - including releases of > each sub-project, etc. If the distinc

Re: Just in case you're curious

subjects have been: how the PMC should work organising a vote or something for a new pmc chair [5 or 6 people nominated so far] how to ensure oversight of jakarta general ramblings about jakarta futures in terms of TLPs and whether social pressure should ever be applied to move a project to TL

Re: Just in case you're curious

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2003, at 9:30 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: > > > Henri Yandell wrote: > >> As a slight aside, getting on the PMC list just means nudging an > >> existing > >> member and pointing out t

Re: Just in case you're curious

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Danny Angus wrote: > > Do you feel that we'll still be an open source organization in more than > > name if all decisions end up being made on private PMC lists not open to > the > > public? > > For the record I'm in favour of transacting business HERE. > But I would like to

Re: Why you *want* to be on the PMC

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The more I see of this discussion, the more convinced I am that the > sub-projects of Jakarta should be run like "mini-TLPs". We want to > leverage the marketing power of the Jakarta brand, the experience of the > other Jakarta developers, and some

Re: Why you *want* to be on the PMC

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > If the aim of the PMC is to house a vast majority of committers, and if > the role of a PMC member is simply to follow some guidelines and > regulate development, I don't see the distinction between a PMC member > and a committer. If the PMC memb

Re: Why you *want* to be on the PMC

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > > > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > > > > > >>If the aim of the PMC is to house a vast majority of committers, and if > >>the role o

RE: Why you *want* to be on the PMC

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Henri Yandell wrote: > > > I would have embraced that idea a year ago, but when discussed it was said > > to not be an option to have a hierarchy of PMCs below the Jakarta PMC of 7 > > members. > > There is a differ

Re: Volunteering for PMC membership

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > On Dec 18, 2003, at 3:14 PM, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I, Harish Krishnaswamy (harishkswamy), a Tapestry committer, would > > like to help grow Jakarta in whatever capacity I can and I request my > > nomination for PMC members

Re: Just in case you're curious

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Dirk Verbeeck wrote: > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > > On Dec 18, 2003, at 9:30 AM, Andy Armstrong wrote: > > > >> Henri Yandell wrote: > >> > >>> As a slight aside, getting on the PMC list just means nudging an > >

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