Re: List Moderator: please unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Nope, I lie. No such address on the list, and I can't spot any other address that looks similar. As it's replying directly and not to the list (though I didn't get one from my reply to the list), I'll try mailing Pedro's new address. Hen On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Henri

Re: List Moderator: please unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2005-07-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Obviously getting too late if I'm doing the 5-second of thought for an email thing. Could be that another moderator has removed the address. I'll back off for a bit so they can point out that they've done so. Hen On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Nope, I lie. No

Fwd: Agila Podling Quarterly Report

2005-07-25 Thread Henri Yandell
As we're the sponsoring PMC, useful for us to be up to date on this. -- Forwarded message -- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jul 25, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Agila Podling Quarterly Report To: general@incubator.apache.org Agila has been moving slowly, but there is

Re: Tracking commons component liveliness

2005-07-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Simon Kitching wrote: There have recently been some discussions about handling dormant/dead commons projects. And I've been wondering about the activity levels of some projects recently (whether they are dead or not). It's hard to track activity by email volumes, and subv

Re: Tracking commons component liveliness

2005-07-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Also, in Jakarta terms, you're talking about moving 50->100 people, which is Oops, wrong number. 50->100 is the PMC, 50->400 is Jakarta, which in itself shows the possibility for inactivity. Came up with an idea for using SVN karma

Re: Copyright line in code submissions

2005-07-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: i follow the licensing list. IIRC there was a plan to create a legal FAQ for committers. i might volunteer to set something in motion... +1, meaning create it and I'll offer ideas/additions/suggestions :) Hen ---

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-08 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 8 Aug 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: AIUI everything will be flat: collective management and only social divisions. standard taglibs will become a jakarta sub-project. +1, I agree. BTW is there any real reason not to start the promotion process for standard taglibs ASAP? None

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Martin Cooper wrote: On 8/9/05, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/8/05, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/8/05, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IMO the proposal can be finished off pretty quickly but i'm unsure about the best way

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: +1. Let's leave Jakarta out of the names. It's assumed. So in the acronym example from Frank, it would be Apache Jakarta WP4J and not JWP4J. Makes sense. Firstly, don't worry about the committership part Frank. I'm certain that if you had a dec

WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
Prior to calling a vote tomorrow, am I missing any potential names. This is all I dredged out of the previous mail thread. 'webapp' was mentioned instead of 'web'; but didn't seem to get any traction. web bricks web components web parts (NOTE-1) web commons

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Curt Arnold wrote: On Aug 9, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I went through the same situation Frank is heading into a few years back. I had a large lump of code, some good, some crap that I wanted to donate into various Commons projects. Some was accepted

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
it looks like I'm pretty close to what would happen. Hen On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Curt Arnold wrote: On Aug 9, 2005, at 2:02 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: I went through the same situation Frank is heading into a few years back. I had a large lump of

Jakarta - Cleaning house

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
We're getting in a bit of a half-finished state with regards to location of things etc. Here's my list of things that it seems we need to get done. Nice and aggressive to cause consternation: Finish moving Tomcat to TLP Propose Slide to TLP Move Commons HttpClient to SLP Move Turbine JCS to

Re: Jakarta - Cleaning house

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, It'd be nice to have a "state of jakarta" wiki page with all this stuff: I think much of it is already captured on other pages like the SVN migration wiki. Create a 'Graveyard' for dead projects We should start assembling a list of those. SLP

RE: Jakarta - Cleaning house

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Create a 'Graveyard' for dead projects Absolutely not. There is no such thing. I might agree to an Apache "museum", which has marginally more acceptable semantics. I'm not tied to any particular names. Something to represent things that are not

Re: Jakarta - Cleaning house

2005-08-09 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Brett Porter wrote: On 8/10/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Promoting Commons Sandbox to SLP as 'Jakarta Sandbox'. + All Jakarta committers given access, central management of the sandbox + concepts as opposed to individu

Re: Jakarta - Cleaning house

2005-08-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, (... to SVN...) Yep. But I intentionally didn't migrate the dead projects into the jakarta/turbine name space because this would be bound to lead to confusion and to users seeing this and starting to ask what these trees were. This is

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.4

2005-08-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Daniel F. Savarese wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vadim Gritsenko writes: and vote for a release. +1 +1, been noticing the commits :) Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For add

Re: Jakarta Site karma request

2005-08-14 Thread Henri Yandell
Done. On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Mark Thomas wrote: Please can I have karma for Jakarta site. I want to keep the cvsindex page updated as the Tomcat modules migrate to SVN. Thanks, Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[VOTE] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2005-08-15 Thread Henri Yandell
Sorry for the 5 day instead of 1 day delay. Decided it was time to sell the house so have spent much time tidying up :) Please vote from the following shortlist of names. Please ignore the Web vs Web App vs Webapp issue for the moment. [ ]Apache Silk [ ]Apache Web Bricks [ ]A

Re: [VOTE] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2005-08-15 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Please vote from the following shortlist of names. Please ignore the Web vs Web App vs Webapp issue for the moment. [+1]Apache Silk [ ]Apache Web Bricks [ ]Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons) [ ]Apache Web Components

Re: jakarta-site karma

2005-08-17 Thread Henri Yandell
Done. On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Felipe Leme wrote: Hi, I tried to update the site with the last Cactus release, but it didn't work - guess I need SVN karma. Could someone please fix that? Tks, -- Felipe (user felipeal) - To

Multidoc-jnr - opinions?

2005-08-20 Thread Henri Yandell
0 Aug 2005 03:07:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Osjava-users] Multidoc-jnr - opinions? Multidoc was an idea I had to generate a project-wide documentation site based on links to parts of each individual proje

Re: Multidoc-jnr - opinions?

2005-08-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Prototype of what I want to do javadoc-wise for Jakarta :) http://dist.osjava.org/releases/multidoc-jnr/ (click on something as long as it's not Payload 0.3 or 0.4; seems my distributions are lacking javadoc there).

Re: [VOTE] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2005-08-20 Thread Henri Yandell
Should have sent a reminder yesterday. Anyway, 15 hours or so left to vote :) Hen On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Sorry for the 5 day instead of 1 day delay. Decided it was time to sell the house so have spent much time tidying up :) Please vote from the following shortlist

[RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2005-08-21 Thread Henri Yandell
voted on and start with the fun stuff. Hen On Tue, 16 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Assuming it doesn't degenerate into confusion, I'll end the vote on Sunday midday EST. 3 votes needed, simple majority wins. --

Re: Multidoc-jnr - opinions?

2005-08-24 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, I toyed with similar ideas for a long time (I even had once an intern whip something up), however, there are a number of drawbacks: - different versions. The osjava variant tries to get this right by allowing the user to choose the vers

Re: Multidoc-jnr - opinions?

2005-08-24 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Nicest would be to do this in maven.xml; have it automatically know the structure of the local javadoc tree and link the dependencies in. Easiest is to just hack each one into the project.properties. I got the "singl

September board report

2005-09-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Time to start filling in the subproject blanks on the September board report: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-September2005 Current blanks are: Cactus Commons Betwixt Commons CLI Commons HttpClient (include a GSOC summary) Commons Math (GSOC summary) Hivemind JMeter Taglibs

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-September2005" by SebastianBazley

2005-09-04 Thread Henri Yandell
Need a bit more than that Seb :) Take a look at the previous board reports, we're looking for a bit of colour as to what's happened to your sub-community during the previous quarter, usually driven by what the release meant to the community. Is it a bug release, major release etc, are there p

Board Report - Sept 2005

2005-09-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Published to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/board-reports.html Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Board Report - Sept 2005

2005-09-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Should show in 2 hours btw. On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Published to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/board-reports.html Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

[Request for Comment] Http Components proposal

2005-09-24 Thread Henri Yandell
Oleg Kalnichevski Henri Yandell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ApacheCon (AC2k5US)

2005-09-24 Thread Henri Yandell
I've started a wiki page to plan any Jakarta/Apache-Java BoFs etc at ApacheCon this December: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/AC2k5US I've not been to one before, so if people could step in and fix any confusion I'm showing in what I've done, please feel free. Hen -

Re: [Request for Comment] Http Components proposal

2005-09-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2005 at 11:30:02PM +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: IMHO if this is the vision then it would be better to rephrase the final clause to make this clear. maybe something like: * Jakarta Http Components will provide ONLY a toolse

RE: ApacheCon (AC2k5US)

2005-09-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Noel J. Bergman wrote: I've started a wiki page to plan any Jakarta/Apache-Java BoFs etc at ApacheCon this December http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/AC2k5US Shouldn't this be on http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ ? I suck :) Will kill it and roll it there. -

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of "JakartaBoardReport-December2005 " by JürgenHermann

2005-10-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Nope, it should be December. My time machine is simple, to get to time T from time N, you sit in the machine for T - N and then get out :) Idea is to have the report being written over the next 3 months and not at the end, it worked a fair bit last quarter. Hen On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, Apache W

Re: [Request for Comment] Http Components proposal

2005-10-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Any more comments before I call a vote? Hen On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Prior to calling a PMC vote here in a week or two, I'd like to ask if anybody has any comments on the following proposal for Commons HttpClient to become a Jakarta subproject focusing on Http compo

Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta

2005-10-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: jakarta's been self consciously shrinking over the last few years (it's just too big and too complex) with a lot of old sub-projects graduating to lop level status. it's more difficult now to persuade people that new sub-projects should be acce

Re: RSS

2005-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
Tetsuya runs apachenews.org which usually carries all of the Jakarta news. He has RSS for each of his categories, so the Jakarta feed would be: http://www.apachenews.org/archives/rss_apache_jakarta.xml Hen On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Eugeny N Dzhurinsky wrote: Is there any way to get the latest

Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta

2005-10-13 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the developers/Mentors involved, and my project is not intended to be "only" a FTP Server, but an Application Server that delegates all requests to an existing user defined FTPAction. Maybe we could fit together both projec

Re: [Request for Comment] Http Components proposal

2005-10-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Cheers, Oleg - robert On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 01:10 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: Any more comments before I call a vote? Hen On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Prior to calling a PMC vote here in a week or two, I'd like to ask if anybody has any comments on the following pro

[VOTE] Jakarta Http Components

2005-10-20 Thread Henri Yandell
So, period of comments now over, let's go ahead and vote on the creation of a Jakarta Subproject named Http Components with the following initial charter: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-httpclient/NewProjectCharter [ ] +1 [ ] -1 PMC votes are binding. We need consensus on the issue, so a s

[RESULT] Jakarta Http Components

2005-10-31 Thread Henri Yandell
hu, 20 Oct 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: So, period of comments now over, let's go ahead and vote on the creation of a Jakarta Subproject named Http Components with the following initial charter: On Thu, 20 Oct 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: So, period of comments now over, let's go a

Action Items: Jakarta Http Components

2005-11-04 Thread Henri Yandell
So, to move HttpClient up we need: 1) svn move (what is the new svn directory name to be?) 2) update the asf-authorization file 3) update the Jakarta navigation etc 4) move the httpclient site 5) make sure htaccess redirect is in place from old site 6) mailing list rename 7) what am I missing?

[STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

2005-11-23 Thread Henri Yandell
New idea to help us keep on top of what's going on. Here's the status as far as I know it. A partner version for the pmc@ list will be sent to cover a couple of issues that are currently non-public. - - JCS licensing. I believe these are now resolved. - Silk. I'm still unable to underst

Re: [STATUS] Chair report Nov 2005

2005-11-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Felipe Leme wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: - Silk. I'm still unable to understand how we get permission to use the name, and am just posting to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list every so often. Why? What's the issue with the name? Partly it looks li

Simplifying the PMC

2005-12-02 Thread Henri Yandell
(from a post on commons-dev where the idea occurred to me) I'm thinking that we should just set in stone a date at which point a new committer is listed on the pmc list and asked if they should be on the pmc (to the person nominating them as committers). So let's say Fred becomes a committer

Board report reminder

2005-12-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Tis board report time again. Commons Net, IO, HttpClient, Validator and Velocity Tools all need to comment on their news. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Notice of intent....

2005-12-12 Thread Henri Yandell
dum de dum de dum. Just to be public so that it doesn't look like I'm sneaking around trying to manipulate things. -- I'm starting to open the question of TLP on many of the Jakarta dev mailing lists. It's with a general plan where we would see another half a dozen subprojects move to TLP an

Re: Notice of intent....

2005-12-12 Thread Henri Yandell
ake sure no one thinks I'm forgetting them. :) Hen On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: dum de dum de dum. Just to be public so that it doesn't look like I'm sneaking around trying to manipulate things. -- I'm starting to open the question of TLP on many of the Jak

Re: cvsindex webpage changes

2005-12-18 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 to 2) and 3). Remove the Servlet 2.x ones too. On 1), I wonder what would happen if we put a README.txt in there. Can we have the feature where it shows the content of the README under the directory listing, or does the mod_dav (or whatever it is) not support that. Hen On Sun, 18 Dec 20

Board Report - Dec 2005

2005-12-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Published to: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/board-reports.html Should show in a couple of hours. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
An FYI. Please kick me if I'm going too far with these ideas; I get the feeling I have a general +0, but hard to tell sometimes. Hen -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:42:47 -0500 (EST) From: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: An FYI. Please kick me if I'm going too far with these ideas; I get the feeling I have a general +0, but hard to tell sometimes. See interspersed. I am not quite to the "+" point yet, but probably either ju

Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, An FYI. Please kick me if I'm going too far with these ideas; I get the feeling I have a general +0, but hard to tell sometimes. Not going too far: these are good ideas IMHO. My aim for Jakarta is to either promote subprojects to TLP or flat

Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
Second FYI, the external to Jakarta part of the specs thread is going on at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hen On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: An FYI. Please kick me if I'm going too far with these ideas; I get the feeling I have a general +0, but hard to tell sometimes.

Re: jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Phil Steitz wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: The biggest problem with Jakarta currently is that we've become increasingly disjoint. In many ways we are less healthy than we were 4 years ago. We have less projects, but much less in the way of intersection be

Re: jakarta future WAS: Re: Starting a java specs project (fwd)

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Brett Porter wrote: Thinking more about this, I don't know about "pushing things into commons". The important thing is consistent practices, consolidated committers and community, but maybe not the naming. Jakarta BCEL sounds fine to stay that way, as does Jakarta Commons

Re: Jakarta subproject-package system

2005-12-27 Thread Henri Yandell
Hi Jan, Which page are you looking at? The current charter is at: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html and doesn't contain the text you're quoting. Hen On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, jan meskens wrote: Hello everyone, I am currently discussing the Jakarta project charter and have a few

Going to TLP report

2006-01-06 Thread Henri Yandell
Just to report on my push for subprojects to move to TLP. I've hassled 6 subprojects so far: * Slide: +1 (for a long time) though not very active which is why it's not moved. * Tapestry: They were +1 early last year; waiting until after 4.0 before bringing the subject up

Re: Going to TLP report

2006-01-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Felipe Leme wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: * Cactus: Seem to be +1 on a testing.apache.org TLP By speaking of the TAO TLP (cool name :-), I 'extended' the invitation to the dbunit project (which is currently on SourceForge and facing some administrative i

Re: Going to TLP report

2006-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
Just to update. On Fri, 6 Jan 2006, Henri Yandell wrote: Just to report on my push for subprojects to move to TLP. I've hassled 6 subprojects so far: * Slide: +1 (for a long time) though not very active which is why it's not moved. Prodded. * Tapestry: They were +1

Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
a bit; but things like a common build system, common site system etc. * Sandbox becomes a Jakarta resource, not a Commons resource. Much of the same rules as it has currently. Probably a separate mailing list. - Shout, scream, yell :) Hen On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: d

Re: Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Will Glass-Husain wrote: Thanks, Henri. My feedback. Thanks, very useful stuff. * Generally positive with an aversion to anything involving significant work for the sake of a "cleaner Jakarta". By this I mean that I like the idea of a flatter hierarchy and a clearer

Re: Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
take place there ? (though this could be something for infrastructure/board). Hmm. I'll mention it, there might be legal issues in active use of the name. Henri Yandell wrote: * Improved Committer->PMC process. Chair's responsibility (I've failed at this so far) is to t

Re: Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:20 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: On 1/10/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Groups exist. These are categorically not subprojects, but a way to allow for slicing of the website etc. Some groups ma

Jakarta stats

2006-01-11 Thread Henri Yandell
Robert got me looking at various Jakarta stats in a recent email of his. Gave me something to do while I waited for a plane at 5am this morning :) So, here's a dump of stats. A committer is defined as somebody with svn access. 316 committers in Jakarta. 107 on PMC, 209 not on PMC. 8349 comm

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Danny Angus wrote: I'm one of the "1) Inactive PMC members : 39" For historical reasons I made it onto this PMC just as the project I was really involved with (James) got promoted to TLP. I hung around to try to help make sure that Jakarta didn't die as a result o

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On 1/12/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -=-=-=-= Mostly I'm worried about: PMC members who are not on pmc@ (there's a handful) PMC members who are not on general@ (never looked. I will soon) Inactive committers wh

projects.apache.org

2006-01-20 Thread Henri Yandell
Hopefully no one minds; I'm creating doap files to help with the development of projects.apache.org for Jakarta projects. Idea is that they're checked into the top level of each subproject. Example being: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/bcel/trunk/doap_bcel.rdf ECS, BSF, BCEL, ORO a

Re: License Apache and LGPL

2006-01-21 Thread Henri Yandell
Hi Angelo, From the point of view of Apache and the Apache licence, you can take the Apache-licensed Velocity and include either its source or its binary in your work. Provided you obey the clauses of the ASL 2.0: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 Chiefly: * Include a copy of the

Re: [RESULT] Tapestry TLP

2006-02-07 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:43 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Below is the result of the recent Tapestry committers vote to move Tapestry to an Apache top level project. Pending the approval of the Jakarta PMC, we'll be submitting the request to

Re: Add Xythos Software to Specialized Solution Provider

2006-02-07 Thread Henri Yandell
Sorry to bounce you over to another list Melissa, but Tomcat is no longer in Jakarta. You could try mailing their list (dev@tomcat.apache.org), but bear in mind that they don't have a vendor support page. In fact, now that Tomcat has moved to tomcat.apache.org, the Vendor support page has le

[site] Kill the vendor support page

2006-02-07 Thread Henri Yandell
As per the previous email, I'd like to raise the question of killing the vendor support page. With Tomcat moving to TLP, there's even less Jakarta support here than before. Mainly it's Ant, Struts, Log4j, Tomcat and HTTP Server. Alternatively, we could attempt to make it a Java support page

Re: [site] Kill the vendor support page

2006-02-08 Thread Henri Yandell
Do we remove the people who list support for non-Jakarta products, or is our vendor wiki page for all of the ASF? Hen On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Tom Evans wrote: +1 (as one of the vendors) for moving to the Wiki with a link from the Jakarta home page as Will suggested, rather than killing it alt

Re: Unable to connect to MS Access using tomcat

2006-02-10 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Ian Darwin wrote: ankit jain wrote: I've installed j2sdk1.4.1 and tomcat.I'm tring to connect to MS Access but getting the error mess as no default driver specified.i've written the data source in odbc in DSN and also able to connect to MS Access using jsp programmes bu

RE: i've unsub'd several times

2006-02-16 Thread Henri Yandell
You should both be unsubscribed now. On Thu, 16 Feb 2006, Givens, Denise wrote: Ditto, I -Original Message- From: Bernard, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 7:43 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: i've unsub'd several times What does a guy have to do

Re: ECCN numbers

2006-02-22 Thread Henri Yandell
Neither product contains encryption algorithms - which is the only thing I'm aware of that the ASF are likely to ship that might require an ECCN. Hen On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Topal, Ali wrote: Hello Dear Sir or Madam, We would like to know the ECCN numbers (Export control classification number

Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2006-02-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Apache Silk it is: [17]Apache Silk [ 0]Apache Web Bricks [ 0]Apache Web Commons (branding issue with Commons) [ 3]Apache Web Components [ 0]Apache Web Parts (conflict with Microsoft and sf.net) 20 +1 votes with 1 abstainer. So

Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2006-02-27 Thread Henri Yandell
Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've come to understand that a name Apache FOO does not violate the trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache Silk. Sanjiva. On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005,

Re: [RESULT] Naming for new Jakarta subproject

2006-02-27 Thread Henri Yandell
does not violate the trademark FOO. As such, I don't think there's any problem with Apache Silk. Sanjiva. On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 00:49 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Henri Yandell wrote: Apache Silk it is: [17]Apache Silk [ 0]Apache Web Bricks [ 0]Apache We

ASF Board Report - Initial Reminder for Mar 2006 (fwd)

2006-03-02 Thread Henri Yandell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ASF Board Report - Initial Reminder for Mar 2006 This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the ASF Board. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare the report. The meeting is sched

[PROPOSAL] Two community proposals

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I started to write a long email on the problems in Jakarta, on umbrellas, on the lack of a Jakarta community and existence only of subcommunities and on how it should be "there is no Jakarta Xxxx, you are members of Jakarta - not a subproject"; but you've heard it all before. So, proposal:

Subproject Charters

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I notice that Commons and HTTP Components both have charters. Other subprojects may have them and I've just missed in my very quick look. Do these serve any purpose? Are they a legacy of the days when we tried to create an ASF-like structure within Jakarta to organize things? Any reason not

Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
I really shouldn't be sending multiple emails at the same time - you'll all jsut end up replying to one of them. However, itching while the itch is present. Alexandria is dead. We need to represent it as so on the site. ECS, ORO, Regexp are inactive development-wise - represent - site. Slide,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Two community proposals

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Torsten Curdt wrote: On 05.03.2006, at 20:21, Henri Yandell wrote: I started to write a long email on the problems in Jakarta, on umbrellas, on the lack of a Jakarta community and existence only of subcommunities and on how it should be "there is no Jakarta Xxxx

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote: Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 15:03 + schrieb sebb: Might be worth distinguishing the Mature/Stable projects - e.g. ORO. [We're happily using that in JMeter] Yes, I second that. "Inactive", "dormant" etc. sound negative while "mature" or "stable" lea

Re: Subproject Charters

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I notice that Commons and HTTP Components both have charters. Other subprojects may have them and I've just missed in my very quick look. Do these serve any purpose? Are they a legacy

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I really shouldn't be sending multiple emails at the same time - you'll all jsut end up replying to one of them. However, itching while the itch is present. Alexandria is dead. We n

Re: Subproject Charters

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why restrict a project? One of your big things right now - order and organisation. ;-) Guess I don't see this as one that needs constraining - how a component/subproject does somet

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Rainer Klute wrote: Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2006, 16:08 -0500 schrieb Henri Yandell: Inactive Subprojects ... * POI ... No! POI is not inactive at all. I just committed a major enhancement a few days ago. *evil grin* I may have added a couple to that list that I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Two community proposals

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Will Glass-Husain wrote: I'm mildly positive on "all votes on general". A corollary of this would be to encourage everyone to sign up for general. Maybe put this in big letters on the Jakarta home page. It seems a good way to try out the "one community" idea, see if it fi

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Felipe Leme wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Inactive Subprojects * Cactus Cactus is more on a 'Hibernation' status; I agree there hasn't been activities in the last weeks, but we have some stuff planned (for instance, I should have relased Cactus 1

Re: Subproject Charters

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why restrict a project? One of your big things right now - order and organisation. ;

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: All (90%?) of the navel gazing comes down to one binary question. Should Jakarta be a community, or a community of communities. Are we Jakarta committers, or ORO committers. It should be w

Re: One community or many

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: I'm not tied to any of the things I'm suggesting - except the strong belief that Jakarta as a community of communities cannot work. So I'm definitely in favour of more shared site and less individual site - I&#

Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-05 Thread Henri Yandell
(feel free to keep discussing names etc, but for the moment I'm going to go ahead with the one above) Would anyone like to start putting together a list of constituent parts for JWC? Please include a proposal for what will happen to any subprojects left dead by the creation of JWC (ie: Tagli

Missing PGP keys

2006-03-06 Thread Henri Yandell
I am now back in business on the signing of PGP keys etc. So I get to irritate by pointing out that we have 26 unsigned files in our distribution: http://people.apache.org/~henkp/checker/sig.html#unsig-jakarta felipeal taylor (jetspeed - need to kick this out of our dist(?)) rwaldhoff dirkv

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, From Commons: * EL (dormant?) Tricky status here, and here's why: the JSP 2.1 spec has EL changes, and they're significant enough that Jacob Hookum did an almost cleanroom implementation of EL. He's a newly-elected Tomcat committer (Tomcat 6

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