Re: [gentoo-dev] developer keyring?

2006-01-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 08:10:46PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: Any automation of that process would be really appreciated :-) I've got a script that generates it from the rollcall data, as part of the keyring signing stuff. I'll attach it tommorrow (limited Net access at the moment, between

Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTs and libraries

2006-01-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 08:59:04PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: It installs itself for all versions of Python that are on the system. I don't fully understand the magic how it finds all Python versions, but can this be applied to other packages? It can and it is. Can't recall offhand which,

[gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a lot of ebuilds with stuff like this: for font in *.bdf; do /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} `basename $font .bdf`.pcf done gzip *.pcf For having 100 files in *bdf, this is so

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

2006-01-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Newer version now: http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.6 Changes: - optionally include the category in the output - new mode to list ebuilds suitable for removal from portage (however this only checks your current profile so far, so be careful still, this is work in progress). - NOCOLOR

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: earch with SLOT and masking support

2006-01-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Another new version again, with bugfixes and cosmetic output changes. http://dev.gentoo.org/~robbat2/earch-0.8 Changes: - keywords are sorted by the order they appear on disk, with the exception that '-*' will precede it if present. - All '-arch' flags will always appear in the list if present

Re: [gentoo-dev] fix binary debug support, part elevenity billion 1/2

2006-01-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:10:02AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: that depends, does your code actually have things like #ifdef DEBUG debug stuff #endif And likewise your code should NOT have some logic like the following in it's build system. if(debug mode) ignore user cflags and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: tcsh vs. csh, removal of the latter

2006-01-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 12:05:30PM +0300, Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: To solve symlink problem I can suggest the following. Rather than handling it manually, perhaps eselect can help handle it consistently, and allow users to switch when they have both csh and tcsh installed. -- Robin Hugh

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] multislot mysql

2006-02-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 10:19:18AM +, Francesco Riosa wrote: A good solution should be to add the multislot USE flag to the ebuild and let it to decide whenever make it slotted or not, sorry, this is not viable, yes it's already used by other important packages but not well supported by

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-26 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 02:19:40PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Side note: if the packages in question are fetch restricted, you're screwed, and will not be able to add them to the tree. Actually, there is a solution for this, and it's reasonable logical. Don't use the same name that upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 04:34:00PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:05:00 +0100 Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Is there any valid reason that we can't have portage do this | automatically. This particular way is very user-un-friendly. There's exactly one set of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support

2006-03-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:37:24PM +0100, Paul de Vrieze wrote: On Friday 24 March 2006 20:18, Chris Gianelloni wrote: I really can't think of much besides kernel + toolchain that can have such devastating effects to the rest of the tree. The only other massive breakages would be via

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 07:07:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: - lots of interest in kickstart-like features in our installer ... people want to throw install media into a fresh box, boot it, and come back later and have it be done/usuable The 'CLI' frontend I wrote ~9 months ago worked

Re: [gentoo-dev] Having fun with compression

2006-04-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 06:30:23PM +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: We have ~15k .tar.gz in distfiles. ~6500 .tar.bz2, ~2000 others. A short run over 477 distfiles spanning 833M gave me 586M of .tar.bz2 - roughly 30% more efficient! A comparison run with 7zip gave me 590M files, so bzip2 seems to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
This email is a discussion on why we need to care about more than the simple key parameters, and why - this includes things like changing the validity of an existing key. We also need to consider: location of key (primary key vs. subkey), expiry policies (expiries are only one element of key

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:08:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since people using it will save _lots_ of bandwidth and disk space. Yes, I'll convert it over once

Re: [gentoo-dev] New git.eclass

2006-05-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 02:32:13PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:08:08AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 01:45:30PM +0200, Fernando J. Pereda wrote: Also, git-sources *should* use this eclass once it is in the tree since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-util/cvsutils

2006-05-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 12:22:25PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote: This package is currently without a maintainer and has open QA issues; bug #123708. It was marked as testing on every arch without being tested and could really use someone to clean it up. It will be booted in 30 days if no one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Jan Kundr?t wrote: I don't know much about cryptography, but could you please elaborate on why is using one subkey for all the stuff considered a Bad Thing? The basic form of it, is a vulnerability towards a class of attacks that require a large supply

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 06:54:44AM -0400, Peter wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:45:17 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: The problem, in short, is how to handle the checksumming and signing of gentoo-provided files so that manipulation by external entities becomes difficult. all snip... PMFJI,

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for sys-libs/ldetect{,-lst}

2006-05-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
While digging in the tree, I found this pair. 1. sys-apps/ldetect-lst has been broken for the last 9 months since perl-MDK-Common was removed from the tree. 2. Both of them are live CVS ebuilds, there are no fixed versions available (upstream does have outdated SRPMs). 3. The ONLY bug ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Security/QA Spring Cleaning

2006-05-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:20:55PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: Package: net-nds/openldap Herd: ldap Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will be keeping the most recent version of each of the major releases, as there are still people using them for interoperability with other systems. Package:

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC Maintainer-Wanted Bugs/Cleaning]

2006-05-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 07:30:25PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: So we created this awesome alias to put ebuilds that need a maintainer. Good idea at the time, decent idea still. The problem? We have nearly 2000 open bugs assigned to maintainer-wanted[1]. I would like to discuss policy on

Re: [gentoo-dev] mii-tool single distribution

2006-05-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, JFYI: I've made an mii-tool single distribution, which is independent from the rest of the net-tools stuff. http://www.metux.de/articles/oss/mii-tool-1_9_1_1 This is especially interesting for embedded systems with

Re: [gentoo-dev] mii-tool single distribution

2006-05-31 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:36:07PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:06:33PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: Hi folks, JFYI: I've made an mii-tool single distribution, which is independent from the rest of the net-tools

Re: [gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

2006-06-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:48:51AM +0100, J?rgen Schinker wrote: actually my x86 maschine makes at boot when it starts udev an ldap request and waits 6 ... 8 ...16 sec so at this time ldap is not running so what wants udev at this early stage ? my nsswitch.conf hosts files dns

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:58:46PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote: Xmms will be removed soon... Lot's of users still use xmms mostly because it has many plugins that others don't. Xmms is still stable but the upstream is dead so it won't take our patchset. In the end of this year i would like to

[gentoo-dev] parallel fun in src_install - going beyond the serial monotony of 'make install'

2006-06-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
In the present devmanual, for src_install, it notes that make install DESTDIR=${D} is the preferred way to fire off the install, and to not use emake, for fear of parallel issues. This has four nasty side effects: - Global assumption that make is GNU Make (Hi flameeyes). - Doesn't pass

Re: [gentoo-dev] parallel fun in src_install - going beyond the serial monotony of 'make install'

2006-06-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 01:58:07AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: For a start, practically all Makefiles generated by a recent version (newer than 2001 for definite) are parallel safe. There are a few minor cases I saw where this wasn't true, but those packages also had other parallel build

Re: [gentoo-dev] backups: remove Portage cruft?

2006-06-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:41:56PM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Molle Bestefich wrote: Hi Portage takes up a lot of space and time when doing server backups. How much of Portage needs to be backup up? Any large parts of the tree that I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining the Tree: a proto-GLEP.

2006-06-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 12:00:43AM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote: My current idea is to draw up a formal specification of what ebuilds are allowed to do, and what to assume about the environment in which they run, as well as defining the formats of everything under profiles/, metadata.xml

Re: [gentoo-dev] nss_* and system users

2006-06-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 11:03:36PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: However, in consultation with some folks, it seems that what may be more desirable is to just add users/groups to the local files/compat backends instead, and not make any changes to the remote databases. you mean update

Re: [gentoo-dev] variable quoting, setting optional variables to , and depending on virtual/libc

2006-06-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Jun 16, 2006 at 11:02:27PM -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote: Thomas Cort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the proper quoting style for using epatch? In the tree there are about 3 different styles... snip What is the proper quoting style for defining the S variable? In the tree there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:00:41PM -0700, infowolfe wrote: Kernel headers being the virtual/linux-headers dependency that Georgi mentioned. `uname -r` works, but is annoying because you can't build for a kernel other than the one you're running. Which only applies to kernel modules, not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending Removal of $KV

2006-06-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 08:49:41PM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: Could upstream have handled it better? Yes, most definitely. Did they? No, not yet. We're stuck picking up the pieces. What does upstream have to do with the decision to chmod u+s,go-r /usr/bin/gpg or not? If using a kernel

[gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts to download all of the source files for digesting or verification will hit pkg_nofetch and $A is only the subset of

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 07:13:35PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: If you have an ebuild with a non-standard pkg_nofetch, please ensure that you use $SRC_URI instead of $A! This is because if you have FEATURES=mirror or FEATURES=cvs, attempts to download all

[gentoo-dev] Test request: linux-mod support for arches with 64-bit kernel/32-bit userland

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
This is a testing request aimed at all arches that have differing kernel/userspace bit counts. My short list so far is: - ppc64 - 64/32 (tested myself, but more testing needed) - sparc64 - 64/32 - mips64 - 64/32 [1] Other possibles (they should be theoretically capable of it, but the profile is

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 12:35:04PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: When FEATURES=mirror, and you try to fetch, it does indeed contain unevaluated USE flags. However for FEATURES=-mirror, the content of it is correct

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkg_nofetch: $A vs. $SRC_URI

2006-07-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 03:32:47PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: sorry, i just re-read your message ... perhaps a better fix would be to not force people to download all the packages when something has fetch restrictions ? That's not an option if you are re-digesting the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: vdr - topic reanimated

2006-07-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 at 04:36:55AM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten?? wrote: On Monday 10 July 2006 02:25, Luca Barbato wrote: c is simpler. I like it. Yes, of course if _all wranglers_ respected metadata, instead of stopping to herd tag and assigning to that even when a particular maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hiatus

2006-07-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:25:45PM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: net-wireless/wispy-tools I'll take this one, since I have the hardware. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

Re: [gentoo-dev] Making dobin, doexe, doins, doman, dodoc die by default

2006-07-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 06:00:04PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: at this point i'm against it due to the loss of information/granularity in the die message ... and utilizing DIE_MSG is garbage if die can be made more useful, then i'd be for the do* functions calling die for me -mike How

[gentoo-dev] Nomination for robbat2 - My issue, getting Gentoo more verifiable via signing

2006-07-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 02:46:59AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people for the next Gentoo Council Hi, I know I haven't been around a huge amount lately, I'm getting married in a month, so I've been a bit busy. However I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:07:44AM -0700, kashani wrote: Another technique is to change high transaction tables to Innodb table format. Innodb is going to be roughly 30% slower than MyISAM for selects and take up much more space on disk approx 3-5x larger. However it has row

Re: [gentoo-dev] PDA herd call for assistance

2006-08-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Aug 05, 2006 at 05:31:27PM +0900, Chris White wrote: The PDA herd is pretty slim right now and the only active members are really liquidx and myself. That said I'm looking around for people that can help with confirmations/patches/etc. for app-pda packages. Plans are to hopefully pull

Re: [gentoo-dev] Xmms needs to die.

2006-08-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:30:20PM +0100, Luis Medinas wrote: I'm the current maintainer for xmms and all plugins. As you all know xmms is writen over GTK+-1. This toolkit is not supported by the upstream like xmms. We have lot's of dead upstream plugins on portage and this is a pain to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2006-09-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 05:51:07AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote: This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday once a month), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! Is this the new council for which the voting should have just ended, or the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Age of the Universe

2006-09-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 02, 2006 at 08:55:33AM -0500, Mike Doty wrote: If that's not good enough for you, please find a distribution that you have to pay for like RHEL. Their testing is no better than ours, but at least paying something entitles you to bitch at them. Or consider paying a Gentoo developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Package Manager Specification: configuration protection

2006-09-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 04:02:53PM -0700, Chris White wrote: On Monday 11 September 2006 15:22, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Otherwise, try again with ``._cfg0001_name``, then ``._cfg0002_name`` and so on (base ten is used for the number part) until a usable filename is found. For what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Orphaned packages

2006-09-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Sep 18, 2006 at 08:00:48PM +0100, Gustavo Felisberto wrote: x11-themes/gkrellm-themes I'll take these if nobody else wants 'em. -- Robin Hugh Johnson E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpllQF1F98x7.pgp Description: PGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 03:48:53PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: Lionel Bouton wrote: There are already good resources (http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix was mentioned to me by robbat2) but they may not be advertised enough. Most of the info on that page is wrong. The items on there that note

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] CFLAGS paragraph for the GWN

2006-09-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 04:37:05PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: I thought he wanted flags that broke upgrading between GCC 3.4 and 4.1. tree-loop-linear wasn't in 3.4. If you want flags that just break stuff with 4.1 you can include -ftree-vectorize. Thanks. The objective here was mainly to

Re: [gentoo-dev] LAMP Server beauty contest: server monitoring

2006-10-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 09:41:08PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: Please reply to the list naming your favourite tool for this job, and why. Ok, something is not clear here at all. Do you intend to provide all statistics via SNMPd (writing agents to provide the data that net-snmp doesn't provide

[gentoo-dev] SCHEDULED DOWNTIME: {cvs,svn}.gentoo.org - 2006-10-05 - 1900UTC - 2300UTC

2006-10-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi, Pylon and I will be doing some maintenance on CVS and Subversion later this week. Thursday, October 5th, starting at 1900 UTC. During this time, CVS and Subversion will not be available. We're estimating a worst case of 4 hours at this point, but if everything goes smoothly, it should be

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-11-25 23h59 UTC

2012-11-25 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-11-25 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-portage/pyGPG 2012-11-19 02:56:38 dolsen net-im/jabberd 2012-11-20 19:19:59 hwoarang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Using emerge-webrsync to simplify the handbook

2012-12-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:35:07AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: However, I'm not aware of gnu tar's incremental archive. If it's much faster than the above, then it should probably replace emerge-delta-webrsync. If it has benefits over the current diffball approach used by

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-02 23h59 UTC

2012-12-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-02 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-editors/XML-XSH 2012-11-26 04:19:46 tove games-emulation/snes9express2012-11-29 22:18:41 mr_bones_ Additions:

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-09 23h59 UTC

2012-12-09 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-09 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-haskell/hdoc2012-12-06 22:57:06 slyfox kde-base/dragonplayer 2012-12-08 12:15:36 dilfridge

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-16 23h59 UTC

2012-12-16 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-16 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-ruby/ruby-bsearch 2012-12-10 18:49:29 graaff net-misc/ptunnel2012-12-10 21:27:03 dastergon Additions:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On a personal note, if any copyright assignment was in place, I would never have been able to become a Gentoo developer, and if it were to be put into place, I do not think that I would be allowed to continue to be one. I'm sure lots of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Soliciting Feedback: Gentoo Copyright Assignments / Licensing

2012-12-21 Thread Robin H. Johnson
For further messages in this thread, please keep: Reply-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-...@lists.gentoo.org On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 08:08:45PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:32:25AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:16:25PM -0800, Greg KH

[gentoo-dev] Proposed removal of service: torrents.gentoo.org

2012-12-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
torrents.gentoo.org has been down for a few months now, and there have been very few comments about it. Up until a few years ago, it was still quite useful, but I believe that we have sufficient bandwidth and mirror-coverage around the world that it's become a moot point. If you have any

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-23 23h59 UTC

2012-12-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-23 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-sound/leechcraft-muziczombie 2012-12-18 17:31:53 maksbotan media-sound/leechcraft-muziczombie 2012-12-18 18:05:32 maksbotan

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-12-30 23h59 UTC

2012-12-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-12-30 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/ups-monitor2012-12-24 08:56:39 pinkbyte dev-haskell/hsql-sqlite 2012-12-24 22:25:23 slyfox net-proxy/paros

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-06 23h59 UTC

2013-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-06 23h59 UTC. Removals: mail-client/pine2013-01-04 08:55:25 eras Additions: media-video/pgcedit 2012-12-31 00:46:07 vapier

[gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Just a heads up, DNSSEC is now live on *.dev.gentoo.org hosts. There is a DLV anchor registered at dlv.isc.org, so all public DNSSEC lookups within the domain should work fine. Here's visualisation on my two test cases: http://dnsviz.net/d/dev.gentoo.org/dnssec/

Re: [gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-07 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 04:34:09PM +0200, Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: Thereafter, I'd also like to deploy DANE and SSH fingerprints in DNS, and remove our reliance any elements of the CA chain. Isn't DANE highly

Re: [gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jan 07, 2013 at 01:31:39AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If there are no problems reported in a week or two, I'm going to enable this for the rest of our DNS zones, as well as registering the DS records with the TLD. Thereafter, I'd also like to deploy DANE and SSH fingerprints in DNS

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-13 23h59 UTC

2013-01-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-13 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-haskell/time2013-01-11 22:11:52 slyfox app-emulation/qemulator 2013-01-12 07:49:01 cardoe

Re: [gentoo-dev] January stabilization candidates

2013-01-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 02:49:52PM -0800, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: # robbat2 app-admin/diradm-2.9.7.1 +1 # robbat2 app-shells/localshell-1.3.4 +1 # netmon dev-libs/geoip-1.4.8-r2 +0.5 looking for another vote # base-system sys-apps/irqbalance-1.0.5 +1 # base-system

Re: [gentoo-dev] DNSSEC (w/ DLV) live on *.dev.gentoo.org

2013-01-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:36:31PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: If there are no problems reported by Jan 17th, I'm going to complete the DNSSEC configuration on gentoo.org and remaining delegated sub-domains. Everything is in place except the final trust binding from the org. zone

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-20 23h59 UTC

2013-01-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-20 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-gfx/opencolorio 2013-01-16 05:57:48 pinkbyte dev-util/nvidia-cuda-npp2013-01-17 10:14:37 jlec virtual/pcmcia

[gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-21 Thread Robin H. Johnson
I'm raising this patch because of the recent spate of bugs with the latest udev that now fails to boot your system if CONFIG_DEVTMPFS is not available in your kernel. Bugs: 408947, 409393, 437320, 453074 CONFIG_CHECK has not been fatal for some years now, because there turned out to be some

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-22 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 06:51:54AM -0800, Zac Medico wrote: On 01/21/2013 10:22 PM, Sergey Popov wrote: 22.01.2013 08:23, Mike Gilbert wrote: I guess this change is ok, given that I can opt-out fairly easily. Zac's workaround for binary packages makes me feel better too. I am curious,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:32:40PM +, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I hope this is going to be binary package manager friendly. In Sabayon for instance, kernel sources are not even installed and at the same time, /proc/config.gz may not even be available. There were some corner cases in where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: CONFIG_CHECK_FATAL, making CONFIG_CHECKS fatal by default

2013-01-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 01:39:08AM +, Duncan wrote: Meanwhile, my vote is for a NON-FATAL pkg_pretend warning. That gets run at the beginning when people are still likely to be watching, so should be good enough. Beyond that, gentoo can't keep the obtuse from ignoring the warnings, so

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-01-27 23h59 UTC

2013-01-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-01-27 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-admin/busybox-sysklogd 2013-01-22 17:54:31 vapier net-misc/busybox-ntpd 2013-01-22 17:55:00 vapier

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-02-03 23h59 UTC

2013-02-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-03 23h59 UTC. Removals: app-cdr/cdemud 2013-01-28 00:27:30 tetromino media-fonts/freefont-ttf2013-01-29 20:57:36

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-02-10 23h59 UTC

2013-02-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-10 23h59 UTC. Removals: x11-themes/oxygen-gtk3 2013-02-07 04:13:24 zx2c4 dev-python/wsgiref 2013-02-07 19:02:23

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] please sign your manifests

2013-02-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:35AM +0100, Michael Weber wrote: On 02/12/2013 10:14 PM, William Hubbs wrote: If you have any questions on this, please feel free to let us know. What is the rotation strategy for (near) outdated keys? Alter the key or create a new one? Sign the new with the

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-02-17 23h59 UTC

2013-02-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-17 23h59 UTC. Removals: media-tv/ivtv-firmware 2013-02-11 05:02:06 cardoe net-wireless/zd1201-firmware2013-02-11 14:15:51

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi all, I've been asked a couple of times in IRC and other mediums, about what GPG key settings etc to use. I would not not call these final yet, but should be fairly close to final. This was originally intended to be part of the tree-signing GLEP series, but was in one of the unpublished ones

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:27:46PM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: 2. root key signing subkey of EITHER: 2.1. DSA, 1024 or 2048 bits 2.2. RSA, =2048 bits 3. Key expiry: 5 years. Clarification on reason: These key sizes are the largest supported by many smartcards. -- Robin Hugh Johnson

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-18 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 04:36:08PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote: It may be advantageous to have a gentoo wrapper script that calls GPG with recommended settings to make some tasks easier, gentoo-gpg-create --recommended EDITOR=vim gentoo-gpg-rotation --recommended --old=DEADBEEF and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-19 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 01:34:57AM +0100, Stefan Behte wrote: 2. root key signing subkey of EITHER: 2.1. DSA, 1024 or 2048 bits 2.2. RSA, =2048 bits ... 1024 DSA keys seem pretty short to me. Surely it might be inconvenient for some (2-3? please write a mail here!) people with smart cards.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:32:13PM -0800, Alec Warner wrote: I agree that a smartcard is much better security vs a longer key. I don't think attackers targetting Gentoo are going to brute force the key. They are going to steal the key, trivially, by exploiting a 0-day in a crappy browser, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 01:41:03PM -0500, James Cloos wrote: RHJ == Robin H Johnson robb...@gentoo.org writes: RHJ 2. Root key type of RSA, 4096 bits rsa 4k provides no real benefits over rsa 3k here; it is just slower for everyone, signing or verifying. You can shorten the subkeys

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:22:05PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Which of course brings up the question, why the hardcoded 4096 limit in GnuPG... but I guess that's not our problem yet. https://www.google.de/search?q=gnupg+rsa+8192 Standards interoperability. RSA4096 will not work on legacy

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-20 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 09:38:38PM +0100, Luis Ressel wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:27:46 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: 3. Dedicated Gentoo signing subkey What's the point of this, btw? Ideally keeping your primary key offline to increase security. However, the original

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-02-24 23h59 UTC

2013-02-24 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-02-24 23h59 UTC. Removals: www-apache/mod_vhs 2013-02-20 23:31:04 pinkbyte dev-haskell/wash2013-02-22 09:27:03 moult dev-libs/libole2

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Thanks for the partial response Luis. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 04:12:14PM +0100, Luis Ressel wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:10:56 +0700 (NOVT) gro...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello *, I am stuck and have many questions. New addition to the instructions: 0. Copy /usr/share/gnupg/gpg-conf.skel to

Re: [gentoo-dev] IBM License

2013-02-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 01:57:10PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: Hi folks, Over in #gentoo-dev we've been discussing the need for a new license for OpenSMTPD (currently in my overlay [1]). What do we call it, and should it be included, or is it already covered by another license we

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-03-03 23h59 UTC

2013-03-03 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-03-03 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-libs/libutp 2013-02-28 10:31:02 ssuominen dev-perl/Net-Server 2013-03-02 04:10:48 zx2c4

Re: [gentoo-dev] New license - adobe-pcfi

2013-03-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:01:55AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: CMaps for PDF CJK Fonts --- [...] Permission is granted for redistribution of this file provided this copyright notice is maintained intact and that the contents of this file are not altered

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2013-03-10 23h59 UTC

2013-03-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2013-03-10 23h59 UTC. Removals: virtual/c++-tr1-functional 2013-03-05 13:35:56 flameeyes virtual/c++-tr1-memory

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Forming Gentoo Policy - Copyright Assignment and Attribution

2013-03-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 02:19:55PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 04:51:17PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: If you have any concerns/objections to the policy which was outlined, which includes a mandatory requirement to sign a contributor license agreement and an option to also

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-03-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Please don't CC me directly, you explicitly ignored the Reply-To header that this list has. On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:50:00AM +0700, gro...@gentoo.org wrote: I've followed all the instructions successfully (I think). By the way, the following lines need a small correction: perl_ldap -b

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-03-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:30:19AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: We could do that if we simply add all files using the cvs -kb option. However, Fabian has requested that we keep the keywords for the purposes of his prefix tree merging script:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-03-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 05:14:15PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: If that means doing an additional signature every time something is going to be committed, that sounds like an overkill. If we were to do something radical, I'd rather be in favor of disabling keyword expansion completely and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-03-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:32:30PM -0400, Michael Mol wrote: As to how to accomplish this, it's either a throwaway sig, or poking the agent protocol directly. The only trouble with that is if the agent is configured to only unlock keys for limited periods of time, then your initial check

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