[gentoo-dev] Re: please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:24:26 -0400 Mounir Lamouri wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ulrich Mueller > wrote: > >> On Sun, 22 Mar 2009, mrness wrote: > > > >> Please do not apply patches that have ${P} prefix in other ebuild > >> versions than ${PV}. > >> Is that hard to create a new p

[gentoo-dev] Re: please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:50:26 +0100 Alin Năstac wrote: > Please do not apply patches that have ${P} prefix in other ebuild > versions than ${PV}. > Is that hard to create a new patch with a proper name? Um, why? I'm not having six identical patches with different version numbers in FILESDIR. --

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:54:02 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:51:00 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 > > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > > > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless > > &

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 Tiziano Müller wrote: > > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless > > state? > Yes, I'd like to see it enable by default as well, but we have to > discuss that further. So, not suited for a fast eapi release. Please fix all 'pkg fails t

[gentoo-dev] Re: LC_ALL=C Set by default for portage

2009-03-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:20:14 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Hi, > lately i see that in our bugzilla most of the build reports are > reported with localized build logs which we dont understand. This > leads to us asking the user to run the emerge once more with LC_ALL=C. > > Wont it be nice to have

[gentoo-dev] Re: gems.eclass review

2009-03-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:47:58 +0100 Alex Legler wrote: > Hey, > > we have some changes to be made in gems.eclass for Ruby 1.9.1. > Basically this introduces the possibility to install gems for multiple > versions of Ruby. > > If anyone feels like reviewing, please review the following > changes:

[gentoo-dev] Re: How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:01:36 +0200 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > I'm collecting ideas from the wider development and contributing > community on how to help maintainers and contributors get work done > quicker, or rephrased - how to get more done in the limited time we > have. > > This basically means

[gentoo-dev] Re: Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:21:23 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many > people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order > to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is > only allowed to post a sing

[gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-24 Thread Ryan Hill
Alec Warner gentoo.org> writes: > Somewhat ironically, had everyone been less stubborn last year when > discussing this topic we could have embedded the EAPI in line X of the > ebuild in 2008 and be using it now; instead of still discussing it. > > I don't expect new novel ideas out of this thre

[gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:15:25 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:54:38 + > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:51:11 +0100 > > Luca Barbato wrote: > > > > 2. (with myeclass.eclass containing EAPI=2) > > > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:54:38 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:51:11 +0100 > Luca Barbato wrote: > > > 2. (with myeclass.eclass containing EAPI=2) > > > - > > > EAPI=1 > > > inherit myeclass > > > > Invalid > > QA violation, but legal and a pain in the ass. I didn't th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009)

2009-02-23 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:43:09 -0700 Steve Dibb wrote: > Richard Freeman wrote: > > I still don't see why we need to be encoding metadata in filenames. > > PERL doesn't care what a file extension is, python doesn't care, > > bzip2 doesn't care, tar doesn't care, gzip doesn't care, and even > > ld-l

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0 regression heads up (escaped semicolons in subshells)

2009-02-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:55:37 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 21 February 2009 18:38:55 Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:27:10 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > looks like bash-4.0 has broken semicolon escaping in subshells. > > > this comes up when

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0 regression heads up (escaped semicolons in subshells)

2009-02-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:27:10 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > looks like bash-4.0 has broken semicolon escaping in subshells. this > comes up when using find's -exec like we do in a few places in > eclasses: ls=$(find "$1" -name '*.po' -exec basename {} .po \;); shift > you can work around the issu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: media-video/gephex

2009-02-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:17:04 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > Peter Alfredsen posted > 20090215212907.00a73...@gentoo.org, excerpted below, on Sun, 15 Feb > 2009 21:29:07 +0100: > > > +# Peter Alfredsen (15 Feb 2009) > > +# Masking for removal in 30 days. > > +# Fails to bui

[gentoo-dev] Re: Live source based ebuild proposals

2009-02-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:53:51 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:46:54 +0100 > Luca Barbato wrote: > > master is just a name, you may have the main development happen in > > another branch (say devel) and the stabler tree is kept on the > > master branch and you may want to tr

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs

2009-02-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:02:12 +0100 "Santiago M. Mola" wrote: > net-p2p/nicotine+ I can take this one. -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect treecleaner, for a fact or just for effect wxwidgets @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 patches will be applied nowish

2009-02-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:51:14 -0600 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Ryan Hill > wrote: > > All bugs blocking #198121 having obviously correct (eg. missing > > header) patches will be applied by me in the coming week. If you > > have concerns about

[gentoo-dev] Re: Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:07:58 + Angelo Arrifano wrote: > I would keep existing categories and add a new TAG metadata to > existing ebuilds. Something like TAG="kde music player lyrics lastfm > visualization" for amarok, as example. > > A public list of *ALLOWED* tags would be published on our

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 patches will be applied nowish

2009-02-07 Thread Ryan Hill
All bugs blocking #198121 having obviously correct (eg. missing header) patches will be applied by me in the coming week. If you have concerns about me touching your package (i swear i'll wash my hands first), please let me know. As always, applying these patches yourself makes me a happy monkey.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Announcement of The G Palmtop Environment ebuilds

2009-02-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:36:15 +0200 Petteri Räty wrote: > Angelo Arrifano wrote: > > # manual document installation > > [ -n "${DOCS}" ] && dodoc ${DOCS} > > > > } > > > > dodoc should have || die with it Dieing on dodoc is a complete waste of time and effort. No one wants the ebuild

[gentoo-dev] Re: PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:47:04 -0800 Alec Warner wrote: > Is GuideXML in fact a barrier for submission (do we get complaints > about it?) I seem to remember doc/newsletter people stating on multiple occasions that they're happy to accept plain text submissions (feel free to beat me if i hallucinat

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in profiles: package.mask

2009-01-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:31:03 +0100 Benedikt Böhm wrote: > On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:56:52AM +0100, Friedrich Oslage wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Benedikt Boehm (hollow) schrieb: > > > hollow 09/01/10 21:41:41 > > > > > > Modified: pack

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc 4.3.2 security updates

2009-01-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:06:45 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:03:17 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > I'm really hoping this isn't a stable candidate. :P > > Is an earlier gcc 4.3 a stable candidate, or have those plans been > abandoned? > &

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc 4.3.2 security updates

2009-01-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:22:50 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > not to be out done, gcc-4.3.2-r3 will include changes like some other > distros are now carrying: > - the -Wformat-security flag is enabled by default > - the -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 flag is enabled by default > > if you dont want this stu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last Rites: app-portage/udept

2009-01-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:47:47 + (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > While I'm at it, is there anything useful to display metadata.xml? > In particular, the long descriptions and use flags can be useful. > With use.desc and especially the local version thereof going > deprecated, and wi

[gentoo-dev] Re: reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files

2009-01-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:12:23 +0100 Fabio Rossi wrote: > I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo > inside /var/lib. Currently we have this situation (at least on my > system): > > /var/lib/eselect > /var/lib/gentoo/enews > /var/lib/herdstat/ > /var/lib/module-rebuild > /var/lib/po

[gentoo-dev] Re: Soliciting news items to test GLEP 42 support in sys-apps/portage-2.1.6_rc

2008-12-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > The GLEP 42 news support [1] is going to be available in stable when > sys-apps/portage-2.1.6 is marked stable later this month. I think > the news code is prett

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:00:33 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That being said I still don't see the usefulness here. > > > > You seem to think that using the existing APIs for this data is > > wrong, and I think the oppos

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead of addressing archs as being slackers or not, this addresses > it as a more granular layer of looking at ebuilds. Thanks to Richard > Freeman for the initial proposal that I based this off of. Please > give me fe

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:11:49 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: > > Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 > > > > Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It eve

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some support for Sunrise Overlay :-)

2008-11-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:31:34 +0100 Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. i dont read it ;-) > 2. it is around help with every sort of ebuilds, not only those in or > for sunrise, so would have some "spam" e.g. for me There have been a grand total of 20 messages since we added it to gmane

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-19 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:52:25 +0300 Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В Вск, 16/11/2008 в 15:33 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > > > > > - FEATURES=test failures; > > > > And what we are su

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:04:33 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, I don't want to be a dick to the arch teams. I really > don't. But I *also* don't want them (or policy) to be a dick to me. > That's my whole point; that requirement of never removing the last > stable ebu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 > > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > The maintainer MUST NOT NEVER EVER NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT remove the > > latest stable ebuild of an arch without the ap

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If an ebuild meets the time criteria above, and there are no > technical issues preventing stabilization, then the maintainer MAY [...] mark that ebuild as stable on every keyworded arch (that has a stable keyword). > If

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:24:34 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > Guys, please remember that if you work something around, you should > _not_ close the bug as RESO FIXED but keep the bug open so that the > issue can be addressed and fixed _properly_. Otherwise we'll end up

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:47 +0100 Peter Alfredsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > There is still no solution for things that do not break ABI, but get > > rebuilt with different USE flags, for example the USE=esd fiasco > > where to get rid o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:47 +0100 Peter Alfredsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > There is still no solution for things that do not break ABI, but get > > rebuilt with different USE flags, for example the USE=esd fiasco > > where to get rid of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Reinstating eclasses

2008-11-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:43:55 -0500 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christoph Mende wrote: > > Now the most logical name for an eclass like that > > would be xfce4.eclass, except that eclass already exists. > > Since the new eclass is not version specific, how about simply > "xfce.eclass

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:30:41 +0100 Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with > > 4.3, and if not plea

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:30:09 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packa

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-10-31 Thread Ryan Hill
In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is going to be a huge job due to the number of

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > html 7 > editor6 > tools 6 > music 5 > http 5 > web 5 All way too genera

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:22:09 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:06:40 +0100 > > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Have a look at, for example, [1], where Mike already gave you an > >> > answer one of the previous times we d

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:59:00 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > > what about this: > > insinto /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples > Is there any chance we can start using correctly quoted filenames > across the board? This is correctly quoted, so, yep. -- gcc-por

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:15:16 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, x64 is the marketing name Microsoft made up for x86_64 (aka > > amd64, ia32e and Intel 64), as "Windows for x86_64" doesn't sound > > that sexy, and was later adopted by Sun and others. > > ia64/Itanium doesn't h

[gentoo-dev] Re: "Slacking" arches - which are stable, which aren't?

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:44:51 -0500 Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would suggest moving all the "slacking" arches to "experimental" > until there is desire from the dev community (read: manpower) to > support a stable tree again. Until then, it seems pretty pointless to > keep assignin

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:17:05 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > Though I'm still not sure what happens when a package is in two > > unrelated sets.. > > > &

[gentoo-dev] Re: Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:44:20 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For projects where the upstream has vanished off the face of the > planet, and the project was reasonably obscure, but the code works > fine still, there's problems with either the requirements of HOMEPAGE > or the r

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:05:53 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:51:53 + > "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ryan, I disagree with your proposal. If I enable a use flag for the > > "meta

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:51:53 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: > > Ryan Hill wrote: > >> Though what happens if a package is in both sets which have > >> conflicting flags in package.use? I would say th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please people, > > >if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it. Um... no? One thing that package.mask has always been used for is temporarily masking a package until it can be tested and then unleash

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-09-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:31:46 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can package.use syntax be extended to allow set entries? > > @compiz-fusion -gnome kde kde4 > > Perhaps, but we need to clarify how that sort of setting will affect > nested sets. For example, if @compiz-fusion contains

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package

2008-09-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500 Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to > the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font > package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a > package dep

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:05:43 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexis Ballier kirjoitti: > > Hi, > > > >> When EAPI 2 goes live built_with_use should probably die for most > >> cases. > > > > I don't understand here: you mean die like being removed or die like > > the die call in

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Extend blocker syntax to indicate when conflicting packages may be temporarily installed simultaneously (for EAPI 2)

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:38:43 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi everyone, > > Please consider a blocker syntax extension, for inclusion in EAPI 2, > which will serve to indicate that conflicting packages may be > temporarily inst

[gentoo-dev] Re: FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:05:07 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've been trying to find a way that > will allow users to do an FHS compliant install if they want it, > while at the same time still allowing those that are not interested > in it to keep using the curre

[gentoo-dev] Re: LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:02:02 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:17:48 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? > > No. > > Any ebuild should be published with

[gentoo-dev] Re: media-fonts/droid licensing: should fonts include Apache license in tarball?

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:25:42 +0400 Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. > > There are droid fonts package in the tree. Author states that they are > apache licensed [1] (supposedly similar to google's android sdk) but > license itself is not included in the package (only .ttf files ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:27:03 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> b) Does it really matter? > > > > In the grand scheme of things, no. In the grand scheme of things, > > you only *need* a single src_ function. From a maintainer > > convenience perspective, ho

[gentoo-dev] LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
I have an interesting (to me anyways) question. Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? It kinda seems to me the answer should be yes. I don't know if any PM currently implements LICENSE filtering so there may not be any technical reason for it yet. And so I guess it comes down to a phi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:12:13 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that I have ever seen a package that breaks with --as-needed > though. Of course that's just me. Well, then, behold: http://tinyurl.com/5jvkm9 Now you have. Enjoy. :) -- gcc-porting,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:37:06 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) (QA project leader) said on 2008-07-24 that > this policy doesn't exist. I understand that bug reports about > LDFLAGS being ignored are usually fixed, so I ask for the formal

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:36:28 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to suggest new policy stating that packages should > respect LDFLAGS. Small amount of packages which ignore LDFLAGS should > be patched to respect them. Such patches are usually small a

[gentoo-dev] Re: system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:13:01 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious, what are the benefits of not having world include > system? Nevermind, I just found your post explaining this. -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect

[gentoo-dev] Re: system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:01:23 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the new split in Portage where system set packages are not > considered in an "emerge -auDNv world" unless something in world > RDEPENDs on it brings about a few issues. Just curious, what are the benefits of no

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: mozcoreconf-2.eclass

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:55:00 + "Raul Porcel (armin76)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > armin76 08/07/18 17:55:00 > > Modified: mozcoreconf-2.eclass > Log: > Enable by default mozilla's optimization > +IUSE="${IUSE} custom-optimization" > + Could you use custom-cflags for

[gentoo-dev] Re: IBM article of interest ?

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:20:15 -0400 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 080717 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > Philip Webb wrote: > >> [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html > >> '03 Jul 2008' has been added since I sent my comment to them > >> yesterday ! However, the incorre

[gentoo-dev] Re: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:09:36 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:00 +0200 > > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 15-07-2008 15:32:32 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: > >&

[gentoo-dev] Re: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:00 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15-07-2008 15:32:32 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > all, > > > > I'm at the point that -Wl,-O1 appears to be successful. It's time > > to toss on -Wl,--hash-style=gnu. The issue is that we need glibc > > 2.5 or high

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 01:40:13 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Slacker arches > -- > Preparation: vapier needs to send the post 4+ hours before the > meeting. (Mike, is this ever going to happen?) I believe he's out of the country until August. -- gcc-porting,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:15:32 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008-07-09 15:45:15 Doug Goldstein napisał(a): > > Luca Barbato wrote: > > > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > >> On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar > > >> Arahesis wrote: > > How

[gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:49:43 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19:14 Tue 08 Jul , Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 > > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't think it's worth

[gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it's worth losing track of the CVS history just so we > can have something in a different place that ultimately is hardly > useful to anyone. Maybe it's time to test the feasibility of moving to SVN again

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:10:14 -0400 Jim Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an interesting solution for those who find it annoying though: > Just file your own 0-day bump request in bugzilla. In theory some > users would find this and just CC themselves on it. Other users could > be shushed w

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: ChangeLog reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild

2008-07-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:23:01 +0200 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:53:06PM +, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) > > wrote: > >> hkbst 08/06/28 16:53:06 > >> > >> Mod

[gentoo-dev] Re: [v3] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2008-07-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:07:03 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4. If we have a valid category name, but no valid package atoms (this > may be a new or misspelt package), try to figure out which team might > want it. Use the category-level metadata.xml file. I wonder how often

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:42:49 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > > On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: > >>> I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the > >>> following flag

[gentoo-dev] Re: When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Ryan Hill
"Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Marius Mauch wrote: > > I don't really see how making PV not read-only is any easier > > than using MY_PV. Did you expect changing PV to magically > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:17:48 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24-06-2008 14:15:10 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis > wrote: > > I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the > > following flags: "-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common". > > > > -

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:20:03 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Santiago M. Mola wrote: > > Upstream clearly states that a gmp build which tests have failed > > shouldn't be used. I bet they deny support for users who fail to > > follow that indication ;-) > > gmp isn't a key compone

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:09 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:55:29 +0200 > > "Santiago M. Mola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Council nominations deadline

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:16:00 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The current nominees and the state of their acceptance can > be checked on > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/voting-logs/council-2008-nominees.xml > If there's someone else you would like to nominate

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:16:36 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernd Steinhauser wrote: > > Wow, impressive. > > > > Actually, you can't be serious... > > I am. > > GLEP 54 for quite some time now and it works very well. > > adds nothing to - and sets usage as is. > > I just d

[gentoo-dev] Re: tetex maintainance (RFH?)

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:57:45 +0200 Alexis Ballier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other option is to p.mask and last rite it, breaking mips and s390 > trees, leaving them without tex support at all. This would also > leave arm and sh with only ptex as tex support. Thus that is not > really an opt

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:34:21 +0200 Bernd Steinhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill schrieb: > No, the idea behind ESCM_LOGDIR was different. > If you just want the revision of the current installed thing, you can > grep through the environment. > > ESCM_LOGDIR m

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:55:27 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > So every user will have a different _preN version which would vary > > depending on how often they rebuild the package and that has > > absolutely no correlation with

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:32:22 + Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, here's a silly idea - > > tag the ebuilds with metadata. We already have RESTRICT, why not add > a "LIVE" variable. The package manager can then treat all ebuilds > with that tag differently. Scripts can find them

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:01:15 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:27:22 +0200 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Many of them applies as well to the alternative proposal, I wonder > > how you could say we, council, had to vote the other proposal give

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:53:51 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:19:32 +0200 > > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I'm confused. If I have a gcc-4.4.0.live ebuild which checks out > >>> rev. 136737, after the merge do I hav

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:35:52 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ignoring possible semantic issues for the moment, I'd be against this > simply because it would require the PM to be aware of the current > revision of the repository and to transform it into a integer value > (trivial fo

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:19:16 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:16:04 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if people are just going to RESTRICT tests when they fail (and they > > will, because it's a hell o

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:42:34 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Err.. Maybe this could have been phrased better but then I did expect > you would look at the bug before commenting. The idea is to enable > tests by default in EAPI 2 and beyond and let them stay off by > default in

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:00:55 +0100 "Alex Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/7 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Thanks, but I'm not sure what I could do to fix this crazy thing. > > > > Precisely why you'd be perfect for

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:46:10 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I nominate: > > dev-zero > dirtyepic > zmedico Thanks, but I'm not sure what I could do to fix this crazy thing. -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect treecleaner,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:08:24 +0200 Patrick Börjesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just picking a random mail to reply to. > > > > gentoo-project people! this is why it exists. > > > > > > Actually, it was stated in the originating mail (starting the > nomination period) that "All nominations

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:41:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tue, 3 Jun 2008 05:52:35 + > Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I think nominations are open. I nominate > > Then I'd like to nom

[gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:31:58 -0600 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Just a quick thought looking over a couple ebuilds. It seems most > > times anyone does a error, elog, einfo, or similar. They start and > > end with a few blank lines. Calls with no argu

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