[gentoo-user] KDM Update

Hey everyone! I just upgraded KDE to 3.4 and am wondering how to replace KDM 3.2.2 with KDM 3.4? Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On April 5, 2005 10:56 pm, quoth Ciaran McCreesh: > On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:45:21 -0700 Robert Persson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair > | the performance of the system? Why not have a nice simple > | X-configurator that doe

Re: [gentoo-user] GUI X configuration (Was: Duplicate posts from ...)

On April 5, 2005 11:11 pm, quoth Richard Fish: > Robert Persson wrote: > >But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair the > >performance of the system? Why not have a nice simple X-configurator that > >does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents? You could even unm

Re: [gentoo-user] what's the use of "etcat use"?

Ash Varma wrote: > > So try: > > $ equery uses > > eg. > I keep saying this but nobody seems to listen. 'equery uses' only works for packages that you already have installed, which makes it far less useful than 'etcat uses' was, which worked with packages you haven't installed yet. The time

Re: [gentoo-user] prevent postgresql from upgrading

On April 5, 2005 05:56 pm, quoth Manuel McLure: > Use > > >dev-db/postgresql-7.4.7-r1 > > in /etc/portage/package.mask or something like >dev-db/postgresql-7.5 if you want to allow bug and security fixes. -- Robert Persson "No matter how much ye shake yer peg The last wee drap rins doon yer l

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:01:44AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Martoni wrote: > | > What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at > | > all)? > | > > | > | This is too easy...gcc. Without t

[gentoo-user] GUI X configuration (Was: Duplicate posts from ...)

Robert Persson wrote: >But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair the >performance of the system? Why not have a nice simple X-configurator that >does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents? You could even unmerge it > > To me this depends upon what level o

Re: [gentoo-user] pernicious printer problem

Lucien Dunning wrote: I know in the CUPS guide it suggests to push data right to /dev/lp0 ( echo "bla bla bla" > /dev/lp0), did u try this? I know my printer at one point would print what I echoed to it, but not through cups. However don't ask me how I fixed it, I don't remember, and I'm not sure

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

050405 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > 050405 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> maybe one should stop blaming the user >> and consider that X11 is crying for a good UI for configuration. > I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days. IIRC when i installed Gentoo in

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:57:39 +0200 Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Martoni wrote: | > What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at | > all)? | > | | This is too easy...gcc. Without that, nothing else, including the | kernel, would exist. egcs -- Ciaran McCrees

Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

Martoni wrote: > What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)? > This is too easy...gcc. Without that, nothing else, including the kernel, would exist. There is really only one app I couldn't live without whether I am running Windows or Linux, and that is VMWare.

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 22:45:21 -0700 Robert Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | But what's wrong with tools to make things easier if they don't impair | the performance of the system? Why not have a nice simple | X-configurator that does the job of the SuSE or mandrake equivalents? Get coding :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On April 5, 2005 02:28 pm, quoth Ciaran McCreesh: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:22:52 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | People don't *want* to learn computers (making the training that much > | harder & slower), and, truthfully, they shouldn't *Need* to, beyond > | the *Very* ba

Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI events config file

Ow Mun Heng, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: > On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 00:51 +, Ryan Viljoen wrote: > > Hi > > > > I am setting up my ACPI on my notebook and have come across a small > > problem. I am setting the events in the /etc/acpi/events/default > > config file. Now I have got

Re: [gentoo-user] Stop The Duplicate Post Whining Please

On April 5, 2005 05:12 pm, quoth fire-eyes: > I get home and more than half the posts are people complaining about the > dupe posts. I know it must have looked a bit depressing at first sight, but if you read some of the later posts you would have found that the thread had quickly gone completely

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On April 5, 2005 02:47 pm, quoth Robert G. Hays: > Problem is, I am about out of time, and do I really need to start a new > learning curve? Possibly, but I am now only fighting with X & maybe > console-format; that last could wait if it had to. But I might check U > out if all else fails. > > Th

Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 13:41:09 -0700 John Myers wrote: > On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: > > Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading > > "Session Type" with a drop down menu which in its passive state > > shows the window manager that will be used by defau

Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

If you use udev you will have a directory called /etc/udev/permissions.d where device permissions are determined at each boot. Robert On April 5, 2005 03:10 pm, quoth Christoph Eckert: > > Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to > > chown/chmod ? I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation l

[gentoo-user] Slightly OT: Linux killer app

What do you think is a Linux killer app (if there is such a beast at all)? A "unlikely" candidate has surfaced here at home where the boys next door live in my study to play "Battle for Wesnoth" on *my* computer (rather than "The Hobbit" on my sons Windows box). :) I'm considering getting VMWare f

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying vim / keyboard behavior

On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:29:05AM -0400, fire-eyes wrote: > Before i decide to go into append or insert mode, I want to go to the > end of a line. I hit the END key. The cursor flashes, and if there is a > letter underneat it and it is lowecase, it's uppercased. What is your terminal ($TERM) set

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Walter Dnes wrote: >On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 07:07:35PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote > > > >>Having listened to said usability experts and found that all the >>software that I like completely breaks at least five of their seven >>heuristics, I wouldn't be inclined to take them too seriously... Th

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

Philippe Gagnon wrote: Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:45:11 -0400 Philippe Gagnon wrote: Nick Rout wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Mar 12 10:15 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Montreal It seems okay to me.. But I still get issues. : - / No TZ has been set.

Re: [gentoo-user] Horizontal lines

Ugh... you most likely have a hardware issue. Why? The screen capture you sent to the list displays perfectly, which means that X is rendering correctly. The problem is then most likely your video card: my friend fried his video card once, and any object on the screen creates a horizontal shadow

Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:34:00 +0800 Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >| The first step is to checkout gentoo-x86 module, | > | >You can't. Access to gentoo CVS is limited to developers. | > | It's ridiculous. It's being said, if I wish to be a developer, I need | to do something like portin

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 07:07:35PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote > Having listened to said usability experts and found that all the > software that I like completely breaks at least five of their seven > heuristics, I wouldn't be inclined to take them too seriously... Their > main premise seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] learning to write ebuilds, failed to login anonymously into cvs server

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 19:32:58 +0800 __ ___ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Hello. I am reading the ebuild handbook, trying to make and maintain | ebuilds myself. | | The first step is to checkout gentoo-x86 module, You can't. Access to gentoo CVS is limited to developers. It

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

>> > Allthough I am not sure this is the best place for a personal rant against >> > some company, I am sorry to hear of your bad luck. >> >> Maybe not, but here is another one that is a prime example of why not to >> trust netgear: >> I'm not sure that it's reasonable to signle out netgear her

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: My system startup

On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 01:33:33PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote > Too bad but on my server (news.gmane.org) it appears that your > post got caught up in some kind of mail loop and appears about 20 > times... each one a little longer (due to more headers no doubt). With the headers featuring our "g

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:45:11 -0400 Philippe Gagnon wrote: Nick Rout wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Mar 12 10:15 /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Montreal It seems okay to me.. But I still get issues. : - / No TZ has been set. what is the output

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 22:45:11 -0400 Philippe Gagnon wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Mar 12 10:15 /etc/localtime -> > /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Montreal > > It seems okay to me.. But I still get issues. : - / > > No TZ has been set. what is the output of da

Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI events config file

On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 00:51 +, Ryan Viljoen wrote: > Hi > > I am setting up my ACPI on my notebook and have come across a small > problem. I am setting the events in the /etc/acpi/events/default > config file. Now I have got the ac_adapter event working nicely with > speedfreq. Now I want to s

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

Nick Rout wrote: your system time should be in UTC, the kernel keeps track of time in UTC, there is no alternative. If your problem is the reporting of time when, for example, you use the date command, then that is converted to localtime in two steps: 1. the system wide file called /etc/localtime

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: reply prefix in evolution

On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 21:53 +0300, Matan Peled wrote: > Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote: > > -- quoting Ow Mun Heng -- > > > >>Evolution nor any mail clients uses that as a basis for threading. > >>(AFAIK). They use these headers embedded in the email messages instead > >> > >>Refer

Re: [gentoo-user] Performance problem (slow hard drive?)

On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:35 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > I also experimented > a little bit with swsusp (without much success), try suspend2 then.. 15 secs from running to hibernate -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 10:03:05 up 1 day

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

your system time should be in UTC, the kernel keeps track of time in UTC, there is no alternative. If your problem is the reporting of time when, for example, you use the date command, then that is converted to localtime in two steps: 1. the system wide file called /etc/localtime, which should

Re: [gentoo-user] Copying a disk

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:27 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote: > Hey!, learn something new every day! > Obviously you weren't reading my very 1st post. I did put in the exact same directive. > Thanks!, > rgh. > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > >On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:31:04 -0400, Robert G. Hays wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Horizontal lines

Didn't see anything wrong. Maybe you need a monitor like mine ;-) > However, after the screensaver came on once, I get > these weird horizontal lines across the screen __ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- g

Re: [gentoo-user] Horizontal lines

Bill Six wrote: Hi, I just installed X and Gnome. They both work fine. However, after the screensaver came on once, I get these weird horizontal lines across the screen whenever a window is open. http://www.ugrad.cs.jhu.edu/~wsix/Screenshot.png Any ideas? I tried taking the video card out and p

Re: [gentoo-user] 3Com Gigabit NIC's in Linux?

fire-eyes wrote: I can't really tell if these 3com gigabit NIC's work in linux, anybody happen to know? 3C996B-T 3C2000-T -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Check the kernel menuconfig. It's quite filled with infos about compatible hardwares. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] system with no network needs updates

On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:27 am, Grant wrote: Each line in your links.txt is a list of different mirror urls for the same package separated by '%20'. This should take the first link from every line and pass it to wget: cat links.txt | sed -e 's/%20.*//' | xargs -n 1 wget or alternatively: sed -e 's/%20

[gentoo-user] Horizontal lines

Hi, I just installed X and Gnome. They both work fine. However, after the screensaver came on once, I get these weird horizontal lines across the screen whenever a window is open. http://www.ugrad.cs.jhu.edu/~wsix/Screenshot.png Any ideas? I tried taking the video card out and putting it back

[gentoo-user] Re: timesheet - to keep track of employee time etc

Joseph wrote: > Does anybody know of any "timesheet" program in portage that would allow > track employee time etc? > KArm (kde-base/kdepim) For my own work, I keep my personal notes in an HTML format. So I wrote a little program to parse through, looking for the tags and print a report on th

Re: [gentoo-user] system with no network needs updates

On Apr 5, 2005, at 7:54 pm, Grant wrote: PS and I dont see how the line in the wiki could have worked well unless emerge -fp used to have different behavior. Thanks a lot Eugene, that second line worked great. Let me know if I should update the wiki: gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Gentoo_for_dialup_users Ye

Re: [gentoo-user] Time issues

> Greetings, > > My system seems to reset the system time to UTC each times I reboot. Is > there anyway to fix this? > > Thanks. > Philippe. I had the same issue and resolved it by editing /etc/conf.d/clock and ensuring that the lines CLOCK = "local" and CLOCK_SYSTOHC="yes" are present. This

Re: [gentoo-user] prevent postgresql from upgrading

Joseph wrote: How to prevent postgresql from upgrading? Though when I enter /etc/portage/package.keywords: =dev-db/postgresql-7.4.7-r1 It doesn't work, emerge tries to pull postresql 8 Use >dev-db/postgresql-7.4.7-r1 in /etc/portage/package.mask -- Manuel A. McLure KE6TAW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:43 -0700, darren kirby wrote: > quoth the Grant: > > I've been screwed over by Netgear for being a Linux user and I need to > > spread the word. I've been having a seriously difficult time getting > > my Gentoo machines reliably connected to my wireless network for > > alm

Re: [gentoo-user] apache core

* Haim Ashkenazi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-05 17:14:07 -0700]: > I don't use fastcgi, but have you tested the ulimit settings for the > user > that runs it (ulimit -a)? > > The default for my user is: > archie openldap # ulimit -a > core file size(blocks, -c) 0 > [...] > The webser

[gentoo-user] Time issues

Greetings, My system seems to reset the system time to UTC each times I reboot. Is there anyway to fix this? Thanks. Philippe. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] prevent postgresql from upgrading

How to prevent postgresql from upgrading? Though when I enter /etc/portage/package.keywords: =dev-db/postgresql-7.4.7-r1 It doesn't work, emerge tries to pull postresql 8 -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] timesheet - to keep track of employee time etc

A suggestion based on my experience. Use the OpenOffice database connectivity to connect to whatever database (I use Oracle jdbc connector, for oracle DB). You can then make a simple interface to the Database using the Writer/HTML template form features. I would imagine that if you spent perhap

RE: [gentoo-user] physical location monitoring with Gentoo

> So, no, WPA is not _as_ vulnerable as WEP yet. But I wouldn't > rely on either of them. Trying using WPA/WEP AND MAC address filters... That should last for awhile. --- Chris Covington IT Plus One Health Management 75 Maiden Lane Suite 801 NY, NY 10038 646-312-6269 http://www.plusoneactive.

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:44 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Why? Gentoo isn't the solution for everything. Sometimes a different | > distribution does the job you want better. Catering for newbies is | > one of those things that other distributions do better. No point | > wasting ef

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 23:48:32 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:34:39 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > > | > I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days. > | > | wonderful. if it is gpl, let us tak

Re: [gentoo-user] apache core

On Wednesday 06 April 2005 01:57, Andy McCarty wrote: > I have been running on BSD and recently switched > to Gentoo. > > It seems that by default the BSD will let my fastcgi > programs running under apache produce core files. > > Can someone give this newbie any ideas on how to get > Gentoo to do

Re: [gentoo-user] timesheet - to keep track of employee time etc

On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 19:30 -0400, Chris Bare wrote: > > Does anybody know of any "timesheet" program in portage that would allow > > track employee time etc? > > > > I use app-office/gnotime to keep track of my own hours. It can generate some > basic reports. It depends on what your needs are, i

[gentoo-user] Stop The Duplicate Post Whining Please

I get home and more than half the posts are people complaining about the dupe posts. The effect of which is far worse than the dupe itself was! And of couse my whining only makes it worse.. Please, let's tone it down. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: > Did I mention that vim is the pinnacle of user interface design? Fire it up! Cooper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

quoth the Grant: > I've been screwed over by Netgear for being a Linux user and I need to > spread the word. I've been having a seriously difficult time getting > my Gentoo machines reliably connected to my wireless network for > almost 6 months. The software end of things is finally rock solid a

Re: [gentoo-user] physical location monitoring with Gentoo

Grant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: > > > I'd like to keep an eye on what's going on in my warehouse. I've got > > > a solid 802.11g network going with WPA now. What do you guys suggest? [snip] > > You may want to keep this in mind: > > Cowpatty: http://www.remote-exploit.org/?page=codes > > wpa

Re: [gentoo-user] timesheet - to keep track of employee time etc

> Does anybody know of any "timesheet" program in portage that would allow > track employee time etc? > I use app-office/gnotime to keep track of my own hours. It can generate some basic reports. It depends on what your needs are, it doesn't talk to a DB with hours for all employees if you where

[gentoo-user] apache core

I have been running on BSD and recently switched to Gentoo. It seems that by default the BSD will let my fastcgi programs running under apache produce core files. Can someone give this newbie any ideas on how to get Gentoo to do the same thing? I have done some Googling and can't seem to find

[gentoo-user] {OT} Don't buy from NETGEAR

I've been screwed over by Netgear for being a Linux user and I need to spread the word. I've been having a seriously difficult time getting my Gentoo machines reliably connected to my wireless network for almost 6 months. The software end of things is finally rock solid and I now realize that one

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Below... Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:22:52 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | People don't *want* to learn computers (making the training that much | harder & slower), and, truthfully, they shouldn't *Need* to, beyond | the *Very* basics. That might be the case

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:34:39 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > | > I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days. | | wonderful. if it is gpl, let us take it for our use too. Why? Gentoo isn't the solution for everything. Som

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Apr 5, 2005 5:07 PM, Robert G. Hays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Here I have to -- mostly! -- agree with Eric...I am a highly-knowledgeable ~18-year programmer, multi-lang, multi-arch,even was handed 66x lins low-comment Fortran, which I'd never seen(Fortran) before to convert to C, no headers, boo

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

< scene: robert wearing "stupid" hat... :( > Not quite what I meant! ( although I arguing, neither... ;) ) rgh. Eric S. Johansson wrote: Robert G. Hays wrote: (jump gently) does the reason involve ego?? richard sizing?? "richard sizing" ??; Well, human nature below, anyway. below indeed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Below... Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:05:00 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:07:41 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | I have now spent 8 *Full* days trying to get gentoo to install in |

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I hear Mandrake have quite a nice GUI configuration tool these days. wonderful. if it is gpl, let us take it for our use too. -- http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 The result of the duopoly that currently defines "competition" is that prices and service

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Well Said! rgh. Eric S. Johansson wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:07:41 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I have now spent 8 *Full* days trying to get gentoo to install in the | first place, and still have 80x25 consoles & 640x480x16-color... This | not lea

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Leo wrote: Robert: #ifdef FLAMES I can say that I haven't had the time/opportunity to convert fortran to c. I haven't ever programmed in fortran and my C experience is limited to textbook exersises and a few other smalltime projects. Perhaps these differences are not significant when deciding

Re: [gentoo-user] Annoying vim / keyboard behavior

* On Tue Apr-05-2005 at 10:29:05 AM -0400, fire-eyes said: > My editor of choice is vim. I administer about 5 systems. On one of > these, the following behavior happens. > > Before i decide to go into append or insert mode, I want to go to the > end of a line. I hit the END key. The cursor flashes

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:05:00 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:07:41 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > | I have now spent 8 *Full* days trying to get gentoo to install in | > | the first place, and stil

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Robert G. Hays wrote: (jump gently) does the reason involve ego?? richard sizing?? "richard sizing" ??; Well, human nature below, anyway. below indeed. richard == dick -- http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.03/view.html?pg=5 The result of the duopoly that currently defines "competition" is

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

I refer back to my 'oh i forgot' emai... That said, yes, *Some* lessons, but it shouldn't have to be more than a day's-worth for most users. Then maybe 1 day, *max*, for each *complex* application. I remember DOS 2.0; thought that then, think that now. rgh. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05

Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

> Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to > chown/chmod ? I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation layer. phew, that's too much for me ;-) . This is concerning ALSA sequencer, and I'd recommend to join the ALSA user mailing list or the linux audio user mailinglist. AFAIK, asoundrc does

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:07:41 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I have now spent 8 *Full* days trying to get gentoo to install in the | first place, and still have 80x25 consoles & 640x480x16-color... This | not learning, this is abusive. Maybe you should

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

In-lining... Eric S. Johansson wrote: Robert G. Hays wrote: Here I have to -- mostly! -- agree with Eric... nobody is perfect... Including me! chops disclosure? before I was injured in 1994, I spent 18 years in software development Me: '84. Why I got into computers in the first place. Mutual

Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

Thanks for the info, but what are the files I need to chown/chmod ? I am using ALSA, no OSS emulation layer. On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 23:42 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote: > > A pc has two soundcards, and two users. I want one > > soundcard to be accessible ONLY to one of the users, the > > other - ON

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Robert: #ifdef FLAMES I can say that I haven't had the time/opportunity to convert fortran to c. I haven't ever programmed in fortran and my C experience is limited to textbook exersises and a few other smalltime projects. Perhaps these differences are not significant when deciding if _I_ am "

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Problem is, I am about out of time, and do I really need to start a new learning curve? Possibly, but I am now only fighting with X & maybe console-format; that last could wait if it had to. But I might check U out if all else fails. Thanks, rgh. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:

Re: [gentoo-user] Help!: ATI -and Gentoo -and ( Xorg -or Xfree86 )

Thanks, I'll check what emerge got, & fix if/as needed. Re ATI-drivers, there's a petition :: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/topic-27729-0.html&highlight= Might want to add your sig to it, & convince other Linux people to. I love ATI, and they were the original linux-supporting vendor. I would

Re: [gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

> A pc has two soundcards, and two users. I want one > soundcard to be accessible ONLY to one of the users, the > other - ONLY to the other user. How do I do this ? Can this > be done through .asoundrc ? How ? Or do I need to change > device file permissions ? On what files ? Most distros use PAM

Re: [gentoo-user] Help!: ATI -and Gentoo -and ( Xorg -or Xfree86 )

Inlined, with snips where appropriate. Justin Patrin wrote: 1) 'startx' fails, and the Xorg log states that fglrx requires Xfree86, thus why I think this; did I miss something? Or are there two versions of fglrx., one for each Xorg & Xfree86? Bottom line, do you happen to know the correct

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Robert G. Hays wrote: Here I have to -- mostly! -- agree with Eric... nobody is perfect... I am a highly-knowledgeable ~18-year programmer, multi-lang, multi-arch, even was handed 66x lins low-comment Fortran, which I'd never seen (Fortran) before to convert to C, no headers, books, etc. Not onl

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Yes, *EXPERIENCED* user. (& please forgive all-caps -- wasn't 'yelling', just raising my voice a bit.) Yes, I personally know the cycle you mentioned, unfortunately! And yes, I think Gentoo, Slackware, etc is where that experienced user should go *once* *they* *are* *experienced* *enough*. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:22:52 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | People don't *want* to learn computers (making the training that much | harder & slower), and, truthfully, they shouldn't *Need* to, beyond | the *Very* basics. That might be the case if they're running Ubuntu or Li

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 17:07:41 -0400 "Robert G. Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | I have now spent 8 *Full* days trying to get gentoo to install in the | first place, and still have 80x25 consoles & 640x480x16-color... This | not learning, this is abusive. Maybe you should give Ubuntu a try. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Oh, I forgot something... Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Which is why naive users shouldn't be unleashed upon computers without some kind of training first. Ok, but then the company that doesn't keep up ends up having to charge more for their products than the companies that do, thus they lose so much

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

James Hiscock wrote: ...and this is different from the software testers/SQA/QA folks that are employed by said manager (assuming the GD is lucky enough to have folks to do their dirty work for them, of course, and that the GD is actually someone other than the original developer...)? Either way, th

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Here I have to -- mostly! -- agree with Eric... I am a highly-knowledgeable ~18-year programmer, multi-lang, multi-arch, even was handed 66x lins low-comment Fortran, which I'd never seen (Fortran) before to convert to C, no headers, books, etc. Not only succeded in ~12 hours, but noticed & fix

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

> > 3. GD hears UE tell him he did everything wrong. > > 3a GD runs to manager and cries (there is no crying in software). > manager tells UE to go [away] and leave the GD alone. ...and this is different from the software testers/SQA/QA folks that are employed by said manager (assuming the GD is

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: < And if you don't want to learn, you're using the wrong distribution...>... *THATS* for sure! (But if knowledgeable-I *ever* get it working fully, I think it will be *well* worthwhiule.) rgh. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 15:54:54 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | that's because they are the users. it appears to me you're advocating | the equivalent of only designing cars for Formula One race car drivers | because that is it's best to have to learn how to use powerful, | ex

Re: [gentoo-user] KDM configuration...

On Tuesday 05 April 2005 07:20, Digby Tarvin wrote: > Now on my old SuSE KDM, underneath the Password line is heading > "Session Type" with a drop down menu which in its passive state > shows the window manager that will be used by default once you > enter your user name. > > On the bottom line are

[gentoo-user] Two users, two soundcards. How ?

A pc has two soundcards, and two users. I want one soundcard to be accessible ONLY to one of the users, the other - ONLY to the other user. How do I do this ? Can this be done through .asoundrc ? How ? Or do I need to change device file permissions ? On what files ? -- Thanks, Ivan Yosifov. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Richard Fish wrote: Why do I get the feeling that the following sequence occurs far too often? At least steps 1-6... 1. GUI designer/programmer (GD) implements functional GUI for most program features. Has some hidden, difficult to discover, but highly useful features. s.b. requires multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Docs & FAQ: Rules Suggestion

:) I'd completely forgotten about ESRs page on mailing list etiquette. That would certainly be a good place to start. On Apr 5, 2005 3:54 PM, Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 13:03 -0400, Shawn Singh wrote: > > While it's certain that people join the Gentoo mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 14:57:31 -0400 "Eric S. Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >| I think I understand. The usability experts were using a language not >| common to geeks. > >The problem is that the usability experts are (deliberately) thinking >like the average comput

Re: [gentoo-user] Revdep-rebuild always rebuilds opera; fixpackages doesn't

I see those threads too. Maybe my first one got dropped, resulting in no replies, but it's in my "sent mail" folder, so I surely tried. In any event, I get the impression that opera is a problem in this regard, but don't understand why, if that is so, OO is not giving me the same thing, because m

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate posts from "John Lowell" on the Digest

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: The problem is that the usability experts are (deliberately) thinking like the average computer illiterate man on the street, rather than considering the idea that maybe it's best to have to learn how to use powerful, expensive equipment. that's because they are the users. i

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