Re: [Gimp-developer] Getting new layer modes fit for inclusion

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/09/2010 10:32 PM, Rupert Weber wrote: On 08/09/2010 07:42 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: As long as you are available to respond to feedback about the patch, it will be included into 2.8, don't worry. It's just that it might take a while before anyone gets around to review and test it

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/09/2010 10:51 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote: Hello, I recently re-read all the GSoC suggestions for 2010, and I found this interesting one about making the menus searchable: https://sites.google.com/site/gimpwiki/long-term-plans/menu-accesibility 0. How do we want the search to work? A

[Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Dave
Hi, I tried out 2.7.3 from the 'matthaeus123' PPA for Ubuntu. I like the new features but noted some performance issues. I don't have a particularly powerful PC (stats below) but I've run 2.6 on even lower specced PCs with no issue, therefore 2.7 must be introducing some significant additional

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread LightningIsMyName
Hello, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: 2. We need to define a usable plugin browser. One of the features I'm missing the most, is a preview image. Plugins should have an option to register a preview image of their effect (probably by having the

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Dave for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I experienced lag on brush strokes with CPU utilization maxing out at 100% (it was always high even with 2.6) but is bad enough that I've reverted back to 2.6.10. Single or multi window interface didn't make much difference so I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM, LightningIsMyName lightningismyn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: 2. We need to define a usable plugin browser. One of the features I'm missing the most, is a preview image. Plugins should

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread Jon Senior
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:27:59 +0200 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think registering a fixed preview image is good enough, it should be a preview of the effect if applied to the current image. Just my 2c. The problem with a preview of the current image is that it is not

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Jon Senior j...@restlesslemon.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:27:59 +0200 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think registering a fixed preview image is good enough, it should be a preview of the effect if applied to the current image. ..

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 10:17 +0200, Dave wrote: I experienced lag on brush strokes with CPU utilization maxing out at 100% Do you have compositing on? (e.g. do windows have a drop shadow round them?) Turning that off helps a lot on my laptop. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread yahvuu
On 10.08.2010 00:16, Jon Nordby wrote: On 9 August 2010 23:42, yahvuuyah...@gmail.com wrote: Just a quick and cheap thought: if you're talking about search, that means i'm already using the keyboard to type in what i want to do, and then we're only one step away from a command line within

[Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Dave
Apologies to Alexia for being 'rude'. I simply found a forum and used it. :( I'm not sure I understand what you mean by transforms being on or off. How/ where do I set this? What more can I tell you about my set up that would help? I use Ubuntu 10.4, with Gnome and compiz switched on. I use a

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 8/10/10, Dave wrote: I've reinstalled 2.7.2 (not 2.7.3 as in the title). I don't like the tapering effect of the 'Basic Dynamics' brush setting so I've created my own that sets opacity only so as to emulate what I would typically use in 2.6. However irrespective of the brush dynamic the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/10/2010 10:28 AM, LightningIsMyName wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com wrote: 2. We need to define a usable plugin browser. One of the features I'm missing the most, is a preview image. Plugins should have an option to register a preview image of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus (search, gegl ops, ...)

2010-08-10 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/10/2010 11:57 AM, David Gowers wrote: Create the previews in an idle handler Just some nit-picking: If you mean an idle handler in the event loop, that's a bad idea. We should do image processing in a separate thread to keep the UI responsive at all times. You could argue that if we

Re: [Gimp-developer] Usability of menus

2010-08-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 19:32:19, Martin Nordholts wrote: Just because some plug-ins are too slow for live preview doesn't mean we shouldn't have it for simpler plug-ins. Besides, we can have it for slow plug-ins as well, we just do the preview calculations asyncronously. And the

[Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Dave
I only use the brush tool, mostly with hard round brushes any size typically up to about 25 pixel radius, spacing 10. opacity on. no other brush dynamics set. Smaller the brush the better the performance is. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 21:47:08, Dave wrote: I only use the brush tool, mostly with hard round brushes any size typically up to about 25 pixel radius, spacing 10. opacity on. no other brush dynamics set. Smaller the brush the better the performance is. Can you please fix your e-mail

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread SorinN
probably he compile the a devel version - my previous compilation reported itself as 2.7.3 but the newest is 2.7.2 ;) 2010/8/11 Jernej Simončič jer...@ena.si: On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 21:47:08, Dave wrote: I only use the brush tool, mostly with hard round brushes any size typically up to

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010 22:47:08 Dave wrote: I only use the brush tool, mostly with hard round brushes any size typically up to about 25 pixel radius, spacing 10. opacity on. no other brush dynamics set. Smaller the brush the better the performance is. Do you use a tablet? There are

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, jer...@ena.si (2010-08-10 at 2227.15 +0200): (also, where did you find GIMP 2.7.3? The latest 2.7 release is 2.7.1) Unofficial releases claiming random numbers. Some even claim things like: ... An update: actually, the version of the currently installed unstable GIMP is 2.7.3-2010022601,

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Tuesday, August 10, 2010, 22:48:33, Alexia Death wrote: He cant. He was using the forum client gimpusers has. He probably does not have any mail to reply too... In that case gimpusers should fix their forum client. I'm not that bothered by the HTML, but having neither threads, nor quotes

[Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Dave
Wow, guys, If you want to use the mailing list that's fine. but lets remove the forum front end or make it read only so that we have a standard. Don't beat me up over it. I used the ubuntu ppa found here: https://launchpad.net/~matthaeus123/+archive/mrw-gimp-svn The version keeps changing.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010 01:27:48 Dave wrote: Wow, guys, If you want to use the mailing list that's fine. but lets remove the forum front end or make it read only so that we have a standard. Don't beat me up over it. We dont have control over what gimpusers have on their site as its a 3rd

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
In view of what Alexia just said: Your problem is interesting, because its contrary to what I would expect and experience myself. For me GIT version performs about twice as good as 2.6, especially with large brushes, and thats with compositing on. To get the 25px round brush to lag at all I have

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread Alexia Death
On Wednesday, August 11, 2010 02:58:56 David Gowers wrote: [incidentally, 2.7 uses Cairo more for display related things (not for rendering brushes IIRC, but of course in order to see the rendered brush strokes, the area must be displayed). It's possible that this impacts your system

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, 00a...@gmail.com (2010-08-11 at 0928.56 +0930): I found myself, that redraws in paint programs were intolerably slow until I added the Here it was general. GIMP's interface took a couple of seconds to redraw, but so did FF while scrolling (slideshowing would describe it better).

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, GSR - FR fam...@infernal-iceberg.com wrote: Hi, 00a...@gmail.com (2010-08-11 at 0928.56 +0930): I found myself, that redraws in paint programs were intolerably slow until I added the Here it was general. GIMP's interface took a couple of seconds to redraw,

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7.3 Performance

2010-08-10 Thread David Gowers
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 12:12 PM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:25 AM, GSR - FR fam...@infernal-iceberg.com wrote: GIMP is a jerk (I get cases where I draw a curve and the middle of it gets flattened into a straight line); But I haven't been painting