Kevin Turner wrote:
What is the status of the help system these days?
Is there a help browser procedure which calls on extension_web_browser
if the gtkxhtml browser is not available?
Yes, Netscape is called it no help browser is found.
How does the help system work for 3rd party plug
What is the status of the help system these days?
Is there a help browser procedure which calls on extension_web_browser
if the gtkxhtml browser is not available?
How does the help system work for 3rd party plug-ins and scripts?
Do we need a grassroots effort to fill in the help files, or do
Hello Marc (and Gimpers)
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Marc Lehmann wrote:
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:04:51PM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
* Make a script pkg with Script-Fu, Perl-Fu and Py-Fu scripts
A small detail is unclear to me ;) Who is supposed to make that
Hello Steinar,
On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
My idea is that Gimp 1.2 is delivered with all "scripts" and "filters"
some of them aren't installed by default (most notably "scripts" but also
some C plugins). They are instead installed in
Marc Lehmann wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 05:48:34PM +0100, Raphael Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quite right. And to paraphrase what I wrote in a previous message,
there is nothing wrong in having an _optional_ dependency on GNOME
...
The difference (IMHO) is that a help system
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 08:11:15PM +0100, Olof S Kylander wrote:
[zap]
File Menu Toolbox
toolbox/File/-|
New
Open
Acquire (We have to
On Friday, 12 Nov 1999, Sven Neumann wrote:
Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without
breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it.
YES!!
I also like the new layout. It seems more consistent.
I'm not sure about leaving out all the
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Magnify:
Shift zoom out
--- Ctrl zoom in
Isn't it just always Zoom In (I mean unless Shift is pressed of course)?
Just an idea: middle mouse-button is panning, why not Shift-middle
button = Zoom Out and ctrl
On Fri, Nov 12, 1999 at 08:11:15PM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However I'm not after a "on the fly loader". I just want a simple (i.e not
load Gimp with bugs) way of handling/install all the scripts. Furthermore
most users don't want all scripts. Most of the time you only
Well thats why we want to have only GtkXmHTML installed and only if it's
needed.
GtkXmHTML is on its way out. Check out the gtkhtml module in CVS. The
only dependency on Gnome is for the test application and the bonobo
component. Otherwise it looks like plain GTK+ stuff to me.
It's not wise
Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ?
With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even
Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this...
So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the
preferred browser
On 10 Nov, Kevin Cozens wrote:
Reading the discussions re: the help system has made me think I
understand why compiling GIMP always broke at a point where it needed
a GtkXmhtml header file. I use a RedHat system without Gnome installed
and I'm beginning to understand that GtkXmhtml
Hi,
Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ?
With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even
Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this...
So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the
preferred
Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without
breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it.
YES!!
I do especially like the new menu hierarchy you suggested. Any volunteers
for this job?
PS: Sven I think
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 09:03:46PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 02:50:18AM +0100, David Odin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think I'm alone, since nobody complain about gimp perl any more
these days.
They don't? Then why do I get so many complaints? ;)
At
Hi,
The idea of a help system as part of GIMP sounded interesting and I had
hoped to try it out and comment on it but I now discover I won't be able
to do so.
There are many things you can do about this:
- Install the gnome-libs package. This will not change your desktop into
a gnome
On Wednesday, 10 Nov 1999, Sven Neumann wrote:
- Grab GtkXmHtml seperately. This is difficult at the moment, but I was
told that the gEdit application offers a seperately bundled one.
If gEdit needs GtkXmHtml, and so does Gimp, does this not mean there's
a real requirement to make
Maybe the time has come to fold GtkXmHtml into the main library.
Ugh... cough, cough. Have you looked at the GtkXmHTML (or however it
should be capitalized) source code? One would hope GTk+ has higher
standards. Not to mention that the "Gtk" part of the GtkXmHTML name is
quite misleading,
- Help us to make a seperate version of GtkXmHtml that compiles on a lot
of setups and fix the Gimp configure script.
Just so you know, GNOME is dropping GtkXmHTML because it is no longer
being maintained and is not very good in general. Anders is working
on a very nice GtkHTML widget,
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 11:10:14AM -0500, Federico Mena Quintero wrote:
- Help us to make a seperate version of GtkXmHtml that compiles on a lot
of setups and fix the Gimp configure script.
Just so you know, GNOME is dropping GtkXmHTML because it is no longer
being maintained and is
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 12:26:58PM +0100, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in the Gnome-Libs, because some people refuse to install gnome
(I dont know why, but there are those people...)
Here is a good reason: gnome is large. TOO LARGE. And if you do not want
to use the gui it is a big
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 01:11:54AM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* All Script in Xtns should be under ZZ-Fu
(ZZZ == Lang)
I strongly disagree. From a usability perspective this is nonsense. It might
be nice for a user to know whom to blame for the script
it
to be in its final state. There are probably other good reasons to use Gnome
for later versions of Gimp, but nobody will be forced to use Gnome with
Gimp-1.2.
- unbundle the help system (or don't ever claim the gimp would have such a
help system - fact is it doesn't work)
Fact is it has a working
On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 04:57:16PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
s/help/perl/
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 03:09:46AM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote:
However, perl works on many _many_ more platforms than the help system,
which only works on a very limited number of systems.
Well, PERL certainly works
a gnome application (puke!). This would be honest, as we
are kind-of forcing gnome on people anyway (wanna help? use gnome!)
- unbundle the help system (or don't ever claim the gimp would have such a
help system - fact is it doesn't work)
A help system that only works by chance (i.e
Consider that GtkXmHTML cannot be compiled on linux libc5 systems (or generally
systems without thread support) because it needs the threaded version of
strok() strtok_r(). The latter one is new in glibc2 (aka libc6) an for the
gnome system it is doubled in gnomesupport. So to make
don't
need the core!!) installed anyway and GtkXmHTML will enlarge the GIMP
distribution even more.
But having the help system installed everywhere is very important, so what I'd
propose is distributing GtkXmHTML as a seperate package. Any automake/autoconf
gurus out there that want to take the job
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 11:04:51PM +0100, Olof S Kylander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Make a script pkg with Script-Fu, Perl-Fu and Py-Fu scripts
A small detail is unclear to me ;) Who is supposed to make that script-pack?
Would the release tarball contain everything, inlcuding the script,
Uwe Koloska writes:
Consider that GtkXmHTML cannot be compiled on linux libc5 systems
(or generally systems without thread support) because it needs the
threaded version of strok() strtok_r().
Not to mention it's a bit impossible to build on non-X11 systems ;-)
But I'm not complaining. But
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