2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
I just want to add I'm also not happy with the new export vs save feature. I
use GIMP for all my edit tasks; from complex foto editting to really simple
screenshot taking and trimming it slightly. I used to love it for both,
especially since it GIMP can
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Olivier oleca...@gmail.com wrote:
2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
I just want to add I'm also not happy with the new export vs save feature. I
use GIMP for all my edit tasks; from complex foto editting to really simple
screenshot taking and trimming it
On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote:
After you have talked with Linus, let us know what he said. :-)
If I recall correctly he claimed that his projects are named after
himself due to his
2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times now,
very annoying ;-). Why is it not OK to allow saving to e.g. png (especially
when not using layers!), but keep the export function ALSO as it is? That
way, everyone will be happy I
On 07.08.12 at 11:23, Anoko wrote:
2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times now, very
annoying ;-). Why is it not OK to allow saving to e.g. png (especially when not using
layers!), but keep the export function ALSO as it is? That
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Anoko wrote:
GIMP is not the only program I use, so yeah I keep pressing CTRL+S
thinking that should save whatever I'm editting to whatever file extension
I gave it, just like in Inkscape, Libreoffice, KDevelop, etc.
Inkscape does it wrong too, and the plan is
* Anoko for...@gimpusers.com [08-07-12 05:25]:
2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times
now, very annoying ;-). Why is it not OK to allow saving to e.g.
png (especially when not using layers!), but keep the export function
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:23:49 +0200
From: for...@gimpusers.com
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
CC: t...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
Well habbits or not, I still wonder why it is explicitly disallowed to
save as something other than xcf. As I
You are hung up* on a single word, save vs export. Change
your key
bindings to match what *you* want.
Totally agreed. The
criticism to the new behaviour is quite bureaucratic.
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On 8/7/2012 2:23 AM, Anoko wrote:
2012/8/6 Anokofor...@gimpusers.com:
I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times now, very
annoying ;-). Why is it not
Hi!
Suppose we have a standard QR code composed of hundreds of squares and
their hundreds of square corners. (e.g.,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code)
How can I get Gimp to round all of the internal and external square
corners - let's say to a 10 pixel radius?
Thank you.
Using an example
Hi!
Suppose we have a standard QR code composed of hundreds of squares and
their hundreds of square corners. (e.g.,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code)
How can I get Gimp to round all of the internal and external square
corners - let's say to a 10 pixel radius?
Thank you.
Oh, just to add
You are hung up* on a single word, save vs export. Change
your key
bindings to match what *you* want.
Totally agreed. The
criticism to the new behaviour is quite bureaucratic.
I'm not sure how this remark helps the discussion (nor the other personal
remarks about developers in other posts).
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Anoko for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
I do not see why this is solved. Someone who is not familair with GIMP, that
wants to store something as a png file, clicks save, finds it needs to
export, clicks export and has lost their layered data nevertheless, now
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Anoko for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
I do not see why this is solved. Someone who is not familair with GIMP, that
wants to store something as a png file, clicks save, finds it needs to
export, clicks export and has lost their layered data nevertheless, now
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Anoko wrote:
The explanation page says In other words, GIMP used to assume
that you don't mind accidental loss of unrecoverable project data and
bothered you with confirmation dialogs. It was a convoluted logic,
but people got used to it.
I do not see why
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Anoko wrote:
I understand that you are bored of the discussion, but by
suggesting that it is my problem alone of seeing it wrong,
I think that's a bit insulting and really unnecessary.
Well, what if it _is_ your problem alone? I could wrap that up in a
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Rob Antonishen wrote:
And this is where your use case is wrong! The whole point of separating save
and export is that ONLY save is safe. An export is NOT guaranteed to be
either safe or lossless. It may be, depending on the source image. Your
example
[..]
User: uh, I just exported it, oh yeah right exporting is not saving. But it's
exported, so my changes are safe. Agree!
And this is where your use case is wrong! The whole point of
separating save and export is that ONLY save is safe. An export is
NOT guaranteed to be either safe or
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Anoko wrote:
Its wrong because users don't think that way?
What users? :)
The are no users in general. There are all sorts of workflows and
uses for applications. There are all kinds of users too.
The kind of users we are targeting, mostly understand and accept
On 08/07/2012 04:59 PM, Anoko wrote:
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Anoko wrote:
The explanation page says In other words, GIMP used to assume
that you don't mind accidental loss of unrecoverable project data and
bothered you with confirmation dialogs. It was a convoluted logic,
but people
On 08/07/2012 05:52 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
snip
The usability team spent quite a while writing all the reasoning down
at gui.gimp.org. I don't really understand why we need yet another
long thread to go through all these things yet again.
Alexandre Prokoudine
Alexandre,
IMHO the
On 08/07/2012 05:32 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Rob Antonishen wrote:
And this is where your use case is wrong! The whole point of separating save
and export is that ONLY save is safe. An export is NOT guaranteed to be
either safe or lossless. It may be,
[..]
User: uh, I just exported it, oh yeah right exporting is not saving. But
it's exported, so my changes are safe. Agree!
And this is where your use case is wrong! The whole point of
separating save and export is that ONLY save is safe. An export is
NOT guaranteed to be either safe or
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Jay Smith wrote:
As many husbands have taken decades to learn (or else they are no longer
married), sometimes writing all the reasoning down won't make the wife
feel better. Right now, the developers are responding to an emotional
situation by saying something
Alexandre,
Just because you write something down doesn't make it right.
Mein Kampf comes to mind.
On 8/7/2012 2:52 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Anoko wrote:
Its wrong because users don't think that way?
What users? :)
The are no users in general.
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Jay Smith wrote:
However, to me, the XCF does not _currently_ really save what I consider to
be the _project_ data.
Gimp does not save, to my knowledge (please excuse any errors), the
following (and more, I am sure):
- window positions or sizes
- visible
On 08/07/2012 06:53 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:28 AM, Jay Smith wrote:
As many husbands have taken decades to learn (or else they are no longer
married), sometimes writing all the reasoning down won't make the wife
feel better. Right now, the developers are
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Jay Smith wrote:
In return, I got back a dismissive reply
You didn't :)
that IMHO completely ignored the
intent of what I was trying to say.
If I skip some bits, it doesn't mean that I don't read them or
disagree. It also can mean that I agree and merely
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Ken Warner wrote:
So you acknowledge that your developer's design decisions might be wrong?
Ken,
This is not a perfect world where perfect people make perfect decisions.
I really wish you stopped making monsters out of us.
Everyone can be wrong. We cannot
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Ken Warner wrote:
Your opinions need moderation and you need to be more inclusive rather than
exclusive.
This is our mailing list. It's not up to you to decide what needs
moderation here.
The preferences of the developers should always be secondary to the
On 8 Aug 2012 07:24, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote:
In summary, IF nearly every one of the developers responses included some
version of the following statement, nearly half of your long threads
would vanish and life would be good:
We understand _ presents a difficult situation for
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