Re: [Gimp-user] Help with editing an image like The National album art

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Mohler
Sorry - that last command is Color -> Colorize.  I got distracted and
rushed the message ;)

Example:
https://imgur.com/a/S9e0V

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with editing an image like The National album art

2017-10-16 Thread Chris Mohler
> I would like to create a similar blue toned image like the one attached. Any
> advice appreciated.
>
> Attachments:
> * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/708/original/C_4bZoMUMAAtNCA.jpg
>
> --

Image -> Mode -> Grayscale

Filters -> Distort -> Newsprint (you will need to play with the options here)

Image -> Mode -> RGB

Image -> Colorize (increase lightness a tad, then adjust the hue)

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] enhance logo for large print

2015-12-24 Thread Chris Mohler
Yes - that logo needs to be recreated (or found again) in vector
format - all these folks are correct.

I do want to throw out a trick though. It didn't work for your logo,
but you'd be surprised at how often it *does* work: reverse image
search:
http://www.tineye.com/search/925a0d00b7662176f504844394cf0625481d1f26/?pluginver=chrome-1.1.4

As you can see, that search is a bust: it only found one image, and
it's the same size. But sometimes you can find a much higher res
version using this method.  Google Images can also reverse search, but
it's not as reliable as TinEye.

Also if it's a somewhat well-known brand, it's always worth checking
brandsofheworld.com to see if it's already available in vector.

But yeah - there's no magic wand in GIMP (or anywhere) that's going to
make that logo hi-res and look OK.  It's simply too small.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] HEX to Pantone Color Conversion

2015-11-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Robert &  Betty Lustila
 wrote:
> Good day, I'm looking to find a way to convert HTML 3e479a to its
> corresponding Pantone Color Code - Is there any way to do this?  Thanks

I know of no reliable method (aside from having a swatch book and
using the mark-one eyeball).  That being said, try this:
http://rgb.to/hex/3e479a

Or if you search the web for "HEX to Pantone", you will see some other
tools pop up.

Also, (I think) Pantone used to have a color lookup on their own site.
But I can't find it anymore.

But once again - I doubt any of these tools are super-reliable.  This
is from someone who used to mix Pantone ink colors.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clean up curves

2015-05-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Partha Bagchi  wrote:
> No simple solution like ofnuts said. You can try the smudge tool to
> see if it helps.

Or you could grab the vector of the flames:
http://website4signs.com/Flames/ClassicRedFlames.pdf

I'm pretty sure this is where the flame graphics came from originally.
If I'm wrong - yeah, you will need to manually clean things up, sorry.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opacity in background image after using Quick Mask mode

2015-04-13 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:22 PM, jlancaster  wrote:
> (see attached screenshot)

This mailing list drops attachments - can you upload the image
somewhere and paste a link?

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Test images and test suite (was Re: GIMP should fork babl and GEGL)

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Elle Stone
 wrote:
> *What copyrighted or otherwise test images GIMP users might have downloaded
> from the internet and found useful, and
> *what kinds of test images GIMP users might have already put together,
> *for what particular testing purposes.

I have used this image for a wide variety of testing, mostly to do
with printing:
http://www.pixl.dk/download/ (first link)

(note to prudes, there is a woman's bare bottom included ;)

The license wording is a little ambiguous, but I interpret it to mean
that it's OK to use it for testing purposes, as long as you aren't
selling or otherwise distributing the image itself.  I'm not sure how
that would relate to a project like GIMP, and it appears we'd need a
German speaker to even ask.

The 2002 version contains a *wide* variety of things that can go
spectacularly wrong when printing (eg for one, over saturation of
black completely destroys the image of the watch), and was a real life
saver when I was setting up the workflow of: Workstation -> Digital
RIP -> Large Format Printer.  It's a beastly image to try and print
correctly, and I imagine the 2009 version is just as devious :)

/goes back to munching popcorn and lurking on the color threads...

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to swap image colors

2014-10-23 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jay Smith  wrote:
> Since this is a very simple text-logo, if you know and can get access to the
> font used for the original, you could much more easily (and in higher
> quality and more quickly) recreate by using text in an image program of some
> sort -- actually probably better in a vector-based program (Inkscape,
> Illustrator, etc.) instead of a bit-map-based program (Gimp, Photoshop,
> etc.).

The font used is 'Palatino Linotype Bold'.

Chris

http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/results?ch%5B0%5D=S&ch%5B1%5D=y&ch%5B2%5D=s&ch%5B3%5D=t&ch%5B4%5D=e&ch%5B5%5D=m&wtfserver=wtf_b_41&id=000a3b05541d8b6d000d09763046&glyphcount=6&imageid=0&x=66&y=37
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP for Mac OS X

2014-09-26 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Zariah Art  wrote:
> so it appears as if Gimp is no longer offering a download for mac OS X-- is
> this true?

No.  See 'OS X' section:
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

2014-09-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Jehan Pagès  wrote:
>> I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
>> I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.

And this isn't going to help immediately, but once I've been working
on a file called "my_cool_image_01.xcf" for over an hour, I do a
File->Save As (CTRL-Shift-S), and name it 'my_cool_image_02.xcf".
This isn't just a GIMP thing - I do the same in all programs.  Disk
space is cheap; my time is not ;)

Going forward, if you use this strategy you'll likely only lose an
hour at most if things go sideways.  But to be fully honest I pair
that strategy with regular off-site backups :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] on Removing background- Layer Mask Removal

2014-04-26 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Frank215  wrote:
> Pic # 2 - after applying add to Alpaha, then Invert Desaturate  only to 
> original
> (lumosity selected)   - no other tweeks made.

Turn off the visibility of the top layer, and you will see the
desaturated layer (see: http://postimg.org/image/lfpz8bla5/).

Or change the order of the layers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP TurboPrint2 error msg

2014-03-10 Thread Chris Mohler
Heh - for some reason I thought this one came from Bugzilla.  Forget
the noise about 'NOTABUG/NOTGNOME'.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP TurboPrint2 error msg

2014-03-10 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, George-R  wrote:
> And yet, the error message comes from GIMP so one nagging question remains, 
> does
> GIMP have (or did it have) a gnome-keyring setting?

My guess after a couple of quick searches is this is a problem between
TurboPrint and gnome-keyring.  AFAIK (and I'm no expert), GIMP doesn't
interact with gnome-keyring when printing.

Are you sure gnome-keyring is even running?  I'm not sure Mate starts
it for you by default.  See a similar issue:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653011

But pretty sure this is either NOTABUG or NOTGNOME.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Toolbox problem

2014-03-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Reinhardt Christiansen
 wrote:
> How do I get back to where I'm getting the toolbox automatically upon
> opening GIMP and the supporting dialogs also appear when you click on the
> relevant tool?

1 - the  key will toggle visibility of your toolbox and the
dockable dialogs.

2 - look under Windows->Dockable Dialogs.  You will find the tool
options, brushes etc. there.  Depending on how long ago you closed
them, you may find them under Windows->Recently Closed Docks.

3 - you might want to try Single Window Mode.  This is also under the
main 'Windows' menu.  This makes all the tools and dockables into one
solid window, instead of all the little floating windows.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Close up color gaps

2014-02-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Yanno  wrote:
> I'd like to close up those whites so there are only red and orange patches
> ie for the white border to be filled with the colour on either side. The rub
> is I want to keep the colors solid- no blurring/feathering etc

Select by color, Select->Grow, fill with the color, repeat for each color?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Length of a path

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Gunold Brunbauer
 wrote:
> Is there a way to measure the length of a path ?

http://registry.gimp.org/node/17235

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Re: [Gimp-user] Scaling on Center; Add/Subtract with Brushes

2014-01-07 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Mark Bourne
 wrote:
> SirCrow wrote:
>>
>> (Why do I have to type in that challenge thing every time?  Doesn't the
>> system
>> know it's me?)
>
>
> You shouldn't have to. Once you've subscribed to the mailing list, and
> replied to the confirmation message once, you should be able to just send
> emails to the list.

But I think he's using the forum at gimpusers.com - which is sort of
tied to the list in a half-assed way ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to

2014-01-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM, caroline  wrote:
> what i would like to
> know is what is this called in Gimp - how to would be wonderful if anyone has
> time.

http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Layer_Masks/

You'll want to do something similar to the second example, but using
semi-transparent brushes/erasers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] create a flashing neon sign

2013-12-11 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> It would be awesome if there was enthusiasm and energy enough to release
> an "official" gimp filter pack with as many of the old filters as made
> sense, and any others that are obvious candidates.

This is 'unofficial' and contains a few that I usually compile/install
after setting up a new OS:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp-plugin-registry

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Re: [Gimp-user] can not see tool box and others

2013-11-07 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, mahesh256  wrote:
>>Windows > Single-Window Mode
> it didnot work for me ,sorry

How about pressing the [Tab] key?  That shows/hides the dockables.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Ubuntu Gimp menus slow to load

2013-10-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, woollypigs  wrote:
> I managed to report it as a bug on Launchpad and it looks like I'm not alone
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/1245155

Have you tried either logging in as a new user or renaming your
~/.gimp-2.8 directory?

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to fill areas of a rotated image...?

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM, rhimbo  wrote:
> I would like to fill these spaces so it is not obvious
> that the image was rotated.  How can I do this?
>
> What is the standard way to manipulate images in this manner?

Pull out the crop tool ;)

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-crop.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF to PDF problems with font

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Stephen Allen
 wrote:
> The open source eqivalent to Illustrator is Inkspot.

I think you mean 'Inkscape' here, no?

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF to PDF problems with font

2013-08-04 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 6:57 AM, alex_g  wrote:
> Thanks for the tip will try it out. Scribus is a sort of Illustrator?

Scribus is desktop publishing - more like InDesign than Illy.

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Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-08-01 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
>> Enter it as a request for enhancement (RFE) in bugzilla, and then post
>> to the developer list about it
>
> The other way round, please - first discuss it on the list, and then enter an 
> enhancement request into Bugzilla.

But not on this thread ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression

2013-06-15 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Norbert Preining  wrote:
> These bullying emails are just plain rubbish. Software should be written with 
> the users in mind. And
> - opening a jpg file
> - editing
> - saving
> should result in a saved version of yhe original file, because that is what 
> practically all programs are doing, and what the user expectation, and 
> natural behaviour i

Grue beat me to this, but this doesn't work for JPEG.  If you have a
text editor, you could create a document with say 1 header and 3
paragraphs.  Then you could edit paragraph #1 a thousand times, save
each time, and your header and other paragraphs remain identical.

However if you edit a portion of a JPEG a thousand times, and "save" a
thousand times, the whole of the image is going to take some major
punishment.  In this case instead of "saving" you are really
"reencoding".  Would you consider your text document saved if random
characters were transposed throughout?

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Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression

2013-06-15 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Renaud  OLGIATI
 wrote:
>> I fail to understand why using E rather than
>> S adds any time at all to your work.
>
> Not the time, but the annoyance at the stupidity of being told my file has 
> not been saved, when I have just saved it back to its original format through 
> Export.

See, now this I don't get.  Instead of the dialog in 2.6 that was "You
can't include layers, paths, etc. in JPEG, flatten image?", now
there's a dialog that's "Hey you might have exported but you didn't
save your layers, paths, etc, save them?" - and somehow this is so
vastly different?

I was against the current behavior at the beginning, but my GIMP work
falls into one of two cases and it works out this way:

1.)  "Without a net" - destructive editing
- I need to edit something like a 1-bit TIFF or a greyscale PNG.
- The file is already the result of export from a complex vector file.
- And all I really need to do is make some bits black, or some bits white.
- Most of the time, I don't use layers or masks - if it's getting
too complex I need to go back to the vector source and correct there,
then do another export.
- So, I open, edit, export, close the file - and then I get the
warning, at which point I pause for a second and think: "did I add
layers, masks, etc. that I need in case this file is a tiny bit off?".
 99% of the time, I just close without saving - but there is that tiny
percent left where I think "hmm... I did save that really complex
selection that might come in handy - what the hell, I'll save it."

So in case #1, it adds all of a second or maybe three to my workflow
and I've become quite used to it. It seems the loudest complaints come
from similar workflows - which are not part of GIMP's target.  Which
brings me to...

2.)  "Full-on GIMP" - lossless editing
- I'm creating a layered composition, or a background for another
composition that is layered and/or complex.
- So there's anything from text layers, layer masks, blending
modes - all types of stuff that isn't going to be retained in the
export format.
- I work, save the file as eg "file_20130615-01.xcf".  I export in
my target format.
- If the final needs changes (or I've been working over an hour),
I save as "file_20130615-02.xcf", work, save, export.

Case #2 is exactly how I work with everything in Adobe CS - Photoshop,
Illustrator, etc. already.  Except that eg Illustrator doesn't
restrict the "clean" flag to just AI (it will treat PDF and EPS as a
cleanly saved format), it's exactly the same behavior.  For example if
I create a file in AI, save it, make some changes, export PNG, close
it - it will warn me that wait for it I didn't save the
changes in a format that will be recognized by Illustrator the next
time I open the file.  Sounds familiar, no? ;)

Since I already work this way, I never see the "you didn't save"
dialog on these types of GIMP projects.  At least, if I'm doing it
right that is ;)  So it adds 0 seconds to my workflow.


I'll give you a simple example of #2: a client sends me a set of
bracketed images of a property to combine as "HDR" (never mind that
there are plenty of other tools, client also wants the dog poop out of
the yard and the windows cleaned while we're at it, eh?). I'm
certainly going to consider the file "saved" only when it retains all
of my layers and masks, never mind if the client is only going to see
the exported JPEG.  That way, when they come back and ask "now can we
make the sky green?" (stranger requests have been made), it's "open,
adjust layer, save as, export, close" instead of "open, make mask
(again), adjust, export, close, don't save".  Which saves me time,
which saves them money, which makes me more valuable as an asset.


If all of your GIMP usage falls into #1, you're probably using the
wrong tool for the job.  Either deal with the extra dialog, or deploy
one of the various workarounds (or use another tool).  If you're in
#2, the distinction should make no difference at all, really, unless
you enjoy doing the same work over and over again.

Chris

PS - we can do without the name-calling and nation-baiting.
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Re: [Gimp-user] IPTC in GIMP

2013-05-21 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Alain Sahuquet UM2
 wrote:
> how can i use IPTC tags in GIMP?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+can+i+use+IPTC+tags+in+GIMP%3F

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?

2013-05-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters  wrote:
> Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge & or experience
> building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is
> 2.6.1.
>
> Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the
> old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the
> (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do
> this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)?

I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system.

There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to
find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my
system anyway).

There's this:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux

I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix
everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or
/usr/local/.

'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll
need.  The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or
wherever.

It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably
forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile
and install 2.8 without removing 2.6.  There are quite a dew deps to
work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and
you should be fine.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to make transparency gradiate?

2013-05-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Keith Purtell  wrote:
> A client has supplied a logo for Web display (PNG). The logo background is
> white and needs to become transparent. I've done this in GIMP no problem
> with simple graphics. However this one features design elements that cast a
> pale gray shadow onto the white background. Not sure how to make the
> transparent background play nice with the shadow area?
>
> If it helps, the background color where this logo will be displayed is pale
> gray with a bit of blue tint.

Fake it: put the logo and shadow on top of a background layer in GIMP
that matches the background color of the page.  Export the result.

Or look at CSS drop or box shadows maybe.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Text Along Path Trouble

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Astabeth  wrote:
>>It looks to me like it _is_ putting the text along the path, but in 11
>>or 12 lines.  Did you enter newlines/linebreaks in the text editor?
>>If so, get rid of them.
>
> There are no new lines or breaks.  It is not putting it on the path.  The path
> is a closed loop that outlines the face and head and runs along the bottom of
> the edge.  There are no breaks in the text.  If you look at the paths menu you
> see that a second path has been added.

Sorry - red herring on the linebreaks then.  It is at least attempting
to put the text along the path (see attached*).  The only other thing I
can think to try is to A) either use less text, or B) try expanding
the text editor so that all the text is on one line, or both.


>>You might consider exporting the image and path to Inkscape, and
>>setting the text there.  I've had more luck using Inkscape for text
>>along paths:
>>http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Text-Path.html
>>
>
> I have seen several recommendations for Inkscape here, but I am a high school
> art teacher trying to teach my students to use GIMP, so an Inkscape solution
> won't help me.  This is so frustrating because this was going to be their 
> first
> assignment where they have to have personal meaning rather than just using 
> their
> interests.

Well, the text along path in GIMP has always been a bit frustrating
for me (since 2.0 days), and I tend to just avoid it now.  And there
is that bug floating around that causes text on a path to cut off
after N characters on some combos of operating system and font.

As a former art student, I see no problem with treating Inkscape as
another source for GIMP compositions - importing a path is much the
same is importing a photo or other resource.  But hey, I'm not the one
having to deal with a classroom either ;)

Maybe just change the requirements of the assignment to just do
something creative with the photo and text, and offer text along path
in Inkscape as a bonus or example?

I'll shut up now - not sure how helpful this is ;)

*attachment was too large, but if you look at the line of text just
outside the path, you can see it does follow the path, and all of the
other lines are just offset from that, if that makes any sense.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Text Along Path Trouble

2013-04-23 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Astabeth  wrote:
>
> It creates a whole new path and puts the text on it.  I have never had any 
> path
> except the one (visible in blue) around the person's head

It looks to me like it _is_ putting the text along the path, but in 11
or 12 lines.  Did you enter newlines/linebreaks in the text editor?
If so, get rid of them.

You might consider exporting the image and path to Inkscape, and
setting the text there.  I've had more luck using Inkscape for text
along paths:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Text-Path.html

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch processing?

2013-04-22 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> Imagemagick is a Swiss Army Knife[...]

But the OP specifically mentioned glitches when using IM on the SVG
files, and requested help with GIMP in batch mode instead.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Kasim Ahmic  wrote:
> It's basically just a content swap. It still needs to be entirely restyled.
> Also, I found something out. If I change one of the classes, the body
> becomes fluid. The problem with that is the images (the browser icons on the
> page) and the text end up too far apart on the body.
>
> This is the exact reason why I chose to go for a static design. The mockup
> that Mike made doesn't exactly work with a fluid design unfortunately.
> Unless we come up with something different, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with a
> static design.

There's a difference between the grid:
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#gridSystem

and the fluid grid:
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#fluidGridSystem

I've only given the proposed layout a once-over, but I'm pretty sure
you want to use the default grid, not the fluid, for this layout.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Sam Gleske  wrote:
> Also to pipe in my 2 cents.  I checked the site in a mobile browser.  I
> understand it's completely new and totally alpha code.  That being said: I
> don't think it's useful for the Download link to show up in the mobile
> interface.  Something to think about.  I'm not sure how I'd handle that
> (maybe with JavaScript but that's still not desirable).  UserAgents can
> easily be parsed on the server side but it sounds like static flat files
> generated is favored over server side execution for serving html.

I don't think the link should be hidden.  That being said, anything
needed to be shown/hidden based on screen size can be handled quite
easily with the utility classes, eg '.visible-desktop', etc:
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#responsive

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic  wrote:
>  To be completely honest, I purposefully avoided mobile support. Considering
> that GIMP is a desktop exclusive program, I figured that adding mobile
> support would be a waste of time. If there is enough demand for it, however,
> I'll attempt to add it.

I would at least have a look at adding something like bootstrap.
Adding a few classes to your divs and you'd be 99% done.  Most
elements would then scale to fit tablets/mobile, etc.

Use case A: I'm out at the bar and talking about design work.  My
companion mentions how all the software you need is expensive.  I
point out GIMP can handle quite a bit, esp when it comes to web and
photos.  My companion asks "can it do X"?  I look it up on the site.
Site looks bad == project looks bad.

Use case B: Loss of internet connection, no local help installed, but
access to web via a mobile data plan. Easy to access the docs on the
phone.

I doubt these cases are common, really - but using something like
bootstrap or unsemantic doesn't take long and handles them nicely.

Just my opinion really - I see it as a relatively small amount of
effort even if the gains are small.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Kasim Ahmic  wrote:
> So tell me what you guys think of it so far! Any and all positive as well as
> negative feedback is welcome and much appreciated. It'll really help me make
> this into something that everyone can enjoy!

I'm not a huge fan of the black background.  Overall, I do like the
design though.

One thing is missing: mobile-friendly layouts.  The current site is
not fantastic at mobile size, but it's more usuable than your demo.
Apologies if you were already planning to take care of this.

As for HTML5, I've seen my fill of browser-specific issues with HTML
4.0 and XHTML.  Avoid the stuff that's still in churn (eg, canvas tag
the last time I checked), and HTML5 is fine IMO, and a lot more fun to
work with.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 Compiling src issues

2013-03-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Rukiri  wrote:
> Babl
> git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl
> cd babl
> ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gimp-git
> make -j3
> sudo checkinstall --backup=no --deldoc=yes --fstrans=no --deldesc=yes
> --delspec=yes --pkgversion=0.1.10-git

Um - isn't your 'pkgversion' flag explicitly setting the babl version
to 0.1.10?  It's been a while since I used checkinstall, so I could be
wrong though.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Recolour image according to palette

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Surma  wrote:
> I want to to map each pixel to the colour in my
> palette that most closely represents the original colour. How do I do this?

Perhaps Image->Mode->Indexed, select "Custom Palette", and select your palette?

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Re: [Gimp-user] unsupported file format

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Constance Lowery
 wrote:
> Please take my name and email address off your list, thanks.

Follow the link at the bottom of each message to unsubscribe:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] unsupported file format

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM, rht  wrote:
>>Why don't you report it to Otto? He is quite responsive.
>
> Can you give me a munged email address for him, please?

Look here:
https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

2013-03-07 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> Imagine how awkward it would be to use the current GIMP with a touch
> interface...

I don't have to.  I had debian running on a n900 and installed GIMP
(2.6).  It's probably a bit worse than you imagine ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> * File->Open filters to *.xcf* by default; attempting to open a non-xcf
> file brings up a message, "myfile.jpg is not an XCF file. Would you like
> to import it?"

Current File-Open makes sense as it is, at least to me.  After a
CTRL-O I don't want to have to reset the filter every time, or see a
dialog every time. Just treat it like an import - no need to add a
dialog (this covers right-click 'Edit with GIMP' also - would we have
to add another action: 'Import into GIMP' to skip the dialog?  yuck.).

As for File->Import, I don't understand why it would ever replace
anything - much less why the clean/dirty flag would be the toggle.
Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for the GIMP

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/1172/
>
> How about that? :)

"There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay
warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN."

:D

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Re: [Gimp-user] HELP SAVING AS A PDF

2013-01-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> There is also a "quick and dirty" method

Another:

1. Image->Flatten Image

2. Export PDF

Agreed that Inkscape is the better choice for this type of layout.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help! How do I uninstall Gimp on my Mac

2013-01-01 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
> Can applications on that platform really do this to each other?

I haven't used OS X since 10.2 or 10.3, but this is highly doubtful.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening Page

2012-12-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Terry  wrote:
> I would like to ask why my opening page is not the same as the one on the
> YOU TUBE hints showing how to to remove the background behind the ostrich

You should post a link to the video in question ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Tom Williams  wrote:
>  Ubuntu Linux has a screen
> shot utility, which also selection of a region so I alternate between
> using that and using GIMP for the screen shots.  :)

I use "Shutter" 99% of the time, mainly for the arrows/circles/boxes, etc.

The other 1% is some wonky utility that makes an image from a full page in IE.

I can count on one hand the times I've captured from GIMP :/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> (2) occasionally do google image searches for your images --

(2b) do the same on http://www.tineye.com/

Chris

PS: I'm pretty sure I could convince xorg to give me a frame, no
matter what video shenanigans were in play - hence no Netflix on linux
;)  I'm starting to wander off topic though...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> Probably the most effective approach to preventing e-z downloading
> of an image displayed on a web page, is to slice it into a grid of
> images

Still defeated by the humble "PrtScn" key ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

2012-12-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, d b  wrote:
> I have heard you can protect your photographs on the web by applying a
> transparent overlay to them. When someone then right clicks and saves the
> image, all they get is the transparent foreground and not the photo
> underneath.

FYI, anyone with the knowledge can defeat this "protection" quite easily.

I'm not saying it won't help at all, but robots, browser extensions,
and code monkeys will not be fooled by this approach ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Questions about gimp compairing gimp to PS

2012-12-14 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> In re adjustment layers, I may be missing something fundamental but
> I seem to be doing the same thing, more or less, in the GIMP:

Nah. In PS I can insert a "levels" layer.  Everything under the layer
is affected by the levels operation.  But here's the kicker - you can
always go back and adjust the levels settings.  I don't use PS all
that much anymore, but there were a few adjustment layers that real
time-savers ("colorize" being one).

As you say, you can "sort of" get the same result in GIMP manually but
the mechanism is not the same at all.

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Re: [Gimp-user] scanner works with linux

2012-11-29 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Gracia M. Littauer  wrote:
> anyone recomend any
> newer good Epson scanner that work with linux?

No, but I would check definitely check SANE support status before purchasing:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-EPSON

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Kamilla Elliott
 wrote:
> the pdf files produced in Gimp are unacceptable. Any solutions? Thanks.

Try flattening the image before exporting (Image->Flatten Image).
Just be careful not to save the XCF afterwards.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Python script query

2012-11-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Lorgach  wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the sugestions guys, I'll probably keep pluging away at 
> trying
> to get some working code as time permits as I'm interested in learning Python.

With one image open, try:

Filters->Python-Fu->Console

Enter:

my_img = gimp.image_list()[0]

Then:

dir(my_img)

Also:

dir(gimp)


I usually have the console open before or during writing a plug-in so
I can mess around first.  The other window I have open is
Help->Procedure Browser.

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Python script query

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Lorgach  wrote:
> In order to cut down on time, and also to gain experience I decided to modify 
> some of the scripts that were written by experienced Python programmers to 
> see what effects I could produce on various images.
> However, I have found that when I make even minor changes to a script and 
> save the changed script to the ‘plug-ins’ folder under a new name, it will 
> not show up in the Gimp Drop Down Menu specified in the script.
> I would like to know if anyone else has come across this snag and, if so, 
> what is the cause or if there is a solution.

You'll need to restart GIMP for it to pick up a new plug-in.  Once it
appears you can edit it, as long as the menu item hasn't changed.

The "proc_name" must be unique - this is defined in the "register" function.

If there's a syntax error, the plug-in won't load.


Start GIMP in a command terminal to catch start-up errors.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Allow myself to introduce...... myself

2012-11-08 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> reputable font sites (e.g. fonts.com, myfonts.com are a good
> start, and openfontlibrary.org is good too when it works).

dafont.com also has some nice specimens.

> I'd strongly urge you to experiment with Inkscape for the sort of images
> you posted.

+1.  Inkscape is far better suited to logo design.

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Re: [Gimp-user] ON VS OFF TOPIC

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Michael Schumacher  wrote:
>> Von: Donald Miller 
>
>> Hello Gimp-user-list
>>
>> I received a good answer about setting resolution.
>> I also received a commercial offering from ...
[...]
> There's unfortunately no efficient way to restrict subscriptions to the list 
> to certified non-spammers, so we'll have to deal with the occasional spamming 
> attempt when they happen.

And spam on the list is fairly rare.  I haven't been keeping count,
but I wouldn't be surprised if the average is less than 1 per month.
You just happened to sign up at an unlucky time ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Xcf file Corrupt!? Please Help!

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Kfayejessee  wrote:
> So I have been working on this painting for over a week…

Rule #1: Perform regular backups
Rule #2: See Rule #1

Sorry for the semi-snarky response, but it is a good set of rules and
will save you time and heartache when things really go wrong ;)

When I'm working on File-01.xcf, after an hour or two of work I do
"Save As" and name that "File-02.xcf", and so on.  And there are
plug-ins in the registry that automatically make incremental backups.


My first guess as to the the cause of the corruption is hardware.  A
full or failing disk, corrupt RAM, etc.  Or I've had issues with
saving to flaky shared storage.  The prognosis is not good if it's any
of these.

What version of GIMP are you using (see "Help->About")?  What
operating system?  Are you saving to an internal hard drive, or
external storage? Can you post a link to the XCF online somewhere?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

2012-09-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, maderios  wrote:
> The first rule to know when editing an image is to save your work as you go
> along. When you drive a car you look ahead, not behind, you watch the
> road... It's the same principle : security. If people knew that, this
> annoying thread would not exist.

You know, you're supposed to keep an eye out all around you - not just
straight ahead.  You have tunnel vision.  I do hope I'm not on the
road with you ;)

> People have to observe this rule then they'll be happy with the standard
> "save & save as" behavior, like in Gimp-2.6 and all other editors, which
> allows to work quickly and normally with all kinds of file.

What rule?  WTF is so hard about exporting instead of saving?  I'm a
little unclear on how you're being prevented from working "quickly and
normally".  Some kind soul has already written a plug-in that will
save you the one measly extra keystroke if you want to work
destructively.  To read all of your posts one would think that you'd
be so busy "professionally editing" that you'd not have the time to
continuously post rants about behavior that WILL NOT CHANGE.

If you spent 1% of the energy spent ranting here and instead learned
to adapt your workflow to the new behavior you'd be better off.

Grr... I swore I'd ignore these useless  threads :(

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Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:23 AM, maderios  wrote:
>
> Hi
> Explanation: this plugin simplifies the life of people who use Gimp as a
> working tool.
> Best regards.

Please.  I'm almost certain it was written to stop all the whining.

I "Save As" every hour or so and bump the version, but still - there's
nothing quite as awful as accidentally discarding all of your layers,
masks, paths, channels, etc. from your "working tool".

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Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Akkana Peck  wrote:
> That was exactly one of the two options I just described. and
> if you're saving to XCF, you'll end up with a flattened XCF
> that's lost all the layer info.
>
> Sure, it's fine if you only use the plug-in for exporting to JPG,
> and use Save for XCF. But then you probably wouldn't want to bind
> it to Ctrl-S.

Ah.  My mistake.

I'm adapting to the new save/export workflow, so haven't needed to
install your plug-in and didn't quite grasp what it was doing ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Akkana Peck  wrote:
>> wouldn't it be more simple to flatten everything rather than ...  ?
>
> It wouldn't make you very happy after you saved an XCF and tried to
> reopen it ... some formats DO support layers. :-)

How about:

 - Duplicate image
 - Flatten duplicate
 - Save
 - Destroy duplicate

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Daniel Smith  wrote:
> That must be one heck of a big file. I used to work in graphics
> but nothing like that.
> This topic reminds me of the woman a while back who was
> making a giant fabric image like a mile long?

It's probably not that bad, since they are grayscale and
JPEG-compressed.  By the OP's desire to save as CCITT 1-bit, I infer
that they're probably document scans, so the JPEG/TIFF compression
would keep the file size down.

Since there's nothing in the procedure browser that seems to deal with
multipage TIFFs, I'm not sure GIMP can be scripted to deal with them
though.  Some time ago, I looked at extending what was exposed to the
procedure browser but I couldn't really make heads or tails of it.

Hmm - how about getting ImageMagick to just split the TIFFs into
individual files, then running the batch plug-in or your own script?

Chris

PS - I'm a freelancer and dabble in a bit of everything.  Feel free to
contact me off-list if you'd want to hire me to look into it for you.
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

2012-08-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Daniel Smith  wrote:
> I don't exactly get what you mean by 200 page tiffs?
> You mean one continuous image that takes 200 pages worth of sub-images?

TIFF can store multiple images (pages) in one file.  TIFF is one of
the most abused image formats I know of ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format#Multiple_subfiles

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to fill...

2012-08-14 Thread Chris Mohler
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM, scythargon  wrote:
> I have area(the whole layer) that I have filled with semi-transparent 
> gradient, so now, I select it - (layer->alpha to selection) and trying to 
> fill with ordinary non-transparent color, but I get the same area with the 
> same semi-transparent gradient, the only thing that I changed - the main 
> color of gradient:(

You're selecting only the alpha channel.  On that layer, "Select All",
then fill.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Johannes  wrote:
> This is the consensus so far (correct me if I am wrong):

### CORRECTED

There are a handful of people developing GIMP.  They are following this:
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

Based on this:
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign

You can:

A: Bitch

B: Adapt

C: Fork

I suggest option B or C - they're likely to be the most productive.

HTH,
Chris

(Note that I'm not a developer - just a user that's getting a bit
tired of certain threads)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tips for digitising/tracing image with GIMP?

2012-06-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
>> Do you think GIMP is suitable for this kind of image analyses? Or should I
>> use a vector based program like Inkscape?
>
>[...]But you might alo be able to do the tracing to paths in gimp
> and then iterate over the paths using the gimp-get-vector-points and
> friends (see help->procedure browser in gimp and search for vector)

A simple starting point:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/17235

I'd go with a vector editor rather than use paths in GIMP though.
Path tool in GIMP is nice, path tool in Inkscape is nicer ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Convert to CMYK Mode

2012-06-18 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Doug Reynolds
 wrote:
> How do I convert to CMYK mode?  It is a requirement for a banner I need to
> get printed.
>
> I go to Image->Mode and select a CMYK profile but it just prints an error
> 'Destinatin Profile is not for FGB coloe Space' when I press OK.

You'll need to use a plug-in:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/471

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 PDF-Plugin doesn´t work on Win7 32Bit

2012-06-07 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:01 PM,   wrote:
> I´ve encountered the following problem in Gimp 2.8.0 - any suggestions?
>
> When I am going to export an image file as pdf, I do get two error messages
[...]
> I´ve checked both, file name and write-protection of the destination
> folder, they are ok
>
> Second error message:
>
> Gimp-Meldung
> »C:\Users\Klaus Gölker\Desktop\pdf-error.pdf« konnte nicht gespeichert
> werden:
> Das Plugin Portable-Document-Format konnte das Bild nicht speichern

My guess is that you're hitting this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659509

I thought that there was a similar/duplicate bug as well, but I can't
find it.  If memory serves, that reporter worked around it by saving
to a path with ASCII-only characters (no "ö").

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where/How to post bugs for Gimp 2.9?

2012-06-06 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Elle Stone  wrote:
> Chris, thanks. So the gimp-devel mailing list is this?
>
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list

Yep.

> If so, I'll give it a try. Although annoying developers is not high on
> my list of fun things to do.

A bunch of bug reports against known issues might also be annoying ;)
On the other hand, if something unexpected breaks letting someone know
would be useful.

I guess it's all about finding a good balance.  Post your emails
almost as if they were bugs (eg, steps to reproduce), and my guess is
you'll be fine.

These are just my suggestions, BTW.  Someone with a bit more authority
than a list-lurker may tell you otherwise ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where/How to post bugs for Gimp 2.9?

2012-06-06 Thread Chris Mohler
Ah, well - I was wrong then ;)

I suspect that there will be quite a bit of breakage as work in git
progresses.  But if you've found what appear to be a bug (or bugs), it
might be a good idea to post to the gimp-devel mailing list to see if
it's a known issue, or something that should be filed against git
master.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where/How to post bugs for Gimp 2.9?

2012-06-06 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Elle Stone  wrote:
> But if no-one is interested in having a plain old every day user give
> feedback on how Gimp 2.9 is working, then that means I don't need to
> worry about figuring out how to make bug reports. Either way is fine
> with me.

Unless you've pulled current code from git and compiled it, there is
no "Gimp 2.9".  The current release version is 2.8, which recently
replaced 2.6.  I would imagine those are the two versions that you're
running side-by-side.  Use Help->About to verify.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP brushes for map making

2012-06-04 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Noel Stoutenburg  wrote:
> I'm seeking recommendations of GIMP brushes to use in making maps. I'm more
> interested in roadmap style, with different styles of lines to represent
> different characteristics of highways, crosshatched lines to represent
> railroads, etc. I'm less interested (at the moment, anyway) in texture
> brushes one might use on other styles of maps, e.g., stylized mountains,
> trees to represent forests, etc.
>
> I'd think these would be common, and simple to find, but at this point this
> does not seem to be the case.

I would suggest using something like Inkscape or Illustrator for this.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM, stephen  wrote:
> Thanks, I'll do that.

Also you can do stuff like this in the console:

dir(gimp)

img = gimp.image_list()[0]
dir(img)

etc.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM, stephen  wrote:
> Where is a good place to learn more about the functions that are accessible 
> through scripts?

Check Help->Procedure Browser

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Mohler
Well, I give up.  The forum ate that too.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Chris Mohler  wrote:
>> I created a jigsaw puzzle from an image.  All the pieces exist in different 
>> layer.
>>
>> Is there a way to get the position of the pieces (a script or a menu 
>> command)?  I realize I could use the ruler, however, I would like something 
>> that would be more exact and less tedious.
>
> With only one image open, from the python-fu console:
>
> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
>
> for layer in img.layers:
>    print layer.name, layer.offsets

I was curious to see how the forum has hooking to the mailing list
these days, and I'm sad to report that it munged the spacing on that
psuedo-code.  You'd be better off subscribing to the mailing list
directly.  Anyway, it should be like:

img = gimp.image_list()[0]

for layer in img.layers:
print layer.name, layer.offsets

Where  means indent via Tab key or spaces.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

2012-05-30 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, stephen  wrote:
> I created a jigsaw puzzle from an image.  All the pieces exist in different 
> layer.
>
> Is there a way to get the position of the pieces (a script or a menu 
> command)?  I realize I could use the ruler, however, I would like something 
> that would be more exact and less tedious.

With only one image open, from the python-fu console:

img = gimp.image_list()[0]

for layer in img.layers:
print layer.name, layer.offsets

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Re: [Gimp-user] The only problem with default brushes/resources . . .

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Richard Gitschlag
 wrote:
> 2 - Better yet, instead of locking down all the Editor's controls, have GIMP
> give you a prompt asking if you want to Duplicate the resource first (or
> even do that automatically) when you try to tweak its settings.

+1 - Touching the brush settings on a default brush should create a
duplicate w/o further interaction IMHO.  This preserves the default
resource and also makes changing settings easily discoverable:
win-win.

What says the UI guru?

0.02,
Chris
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[Gimp-user] Mode layer? [was: Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ; )]

2012-05-16 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Chris Mohler  wrote:
>  I need to keep the XCF in
> either color or greyscale with extra layers/paths/etc but I also need
> to produce a flattened 1-bit image before exporting as TIFF.

Hmm - pending further geglization, would something like a "mode layer"
be feasible?  IE, a layer with options corresponding to the
Image->Mode menu items?

For example I could add a "mode layer" of type "indexed" with 1-bit
and threshold options and every visible layer underneath would be
converted for preview, and exported as 1-bit.  Not only would that let
me take advantage of the new save/export behavior, but it would be
useful in its own right: I could tweak the underlying gray/color
layers and watch the changes to the 1-bit image in "real time" or just
toggle the layer on/off to switch between views.

Just a random thought :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS

2012-05-10 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Russ Marshall  wrote:
> Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be SOLD on
> eBay? There are those of us
> who have been cheated by sellers who, when you win the auction send you the
> URL for GIMP web page where
> you may download it for free
> I have complained to eBay but they will not do anything about it.

There's really nothing that can be done.  I recommend going back to
eBay and filing a complaint there.

I hardly use eBay anymore but when I do, I always:

1. Search the web for the item and get 3rd party information/reviews/etc.
2. Check the seller's profile very carefully, and search for them as well.

Sorry you got scammed.

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[Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)

2012-05-09 Thread Chris Mohler
Hi,

To quickly outline today's workflow:

The final output I need is a TIFF with 1-bit indexing, and the source is a JPEG.

In detail:

1. Open JPEG with GIMP
2. Do some masking, etc.
3. Save as XCF
4. Some more masking, tweaking, etc.
5. Save
6. Flatten, convert to 1-bit indexed
7. Export TIFF
8. Close image

On 8, I get the warning about discarding changes - which of course I
ignore to keep the info saved in step 5.  I need to keep the XCF in
either color or greyscale with extra layers/paths/etc but I also need
to produce a flattened 1-bit image before exporting as TIFF.  So I'm
going to see (and ignore) the warning with this sort of project.  I
guess I could do a 'Save As' and name it something like
'myproject_flat.xcf' after step 6, but it would be a useless file - I
would never need it.

I'm not arguing either for or against the 2.8 behavior - just pointing
out at least one use case that has (seemingly) slipped through the
specification.

Thoughts?  No flame wars please :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
 wrote:
> However I stlll find it highly disturbing that so many people felt
> that the project wasn't doing dccent PR work, and yet noone else
> volunteered. If I'm run down by a truck tomorrow, what is the
> community going to do about the lack of a PR person again?

Please, please look both ways when crossing the street!

Seriously, I'm not at a place where I can volunteer much in the way of
time or resources.  I wish that I could though, and I'm grateful that
you are doing so much these days.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jay Smith  wrote:
> c) The developers UTTERLY FAILED to manage public relations on this.  It was
> completely obvious to me (from monitoring the discussions on the developer
> list) that this subject was going to touch of an enormous storm of anger
> among some users.

I don't think this is accurate.  I've seen quite a lot of PR and news
items over the 2.6->2.8 time period, some of which did cover the new
Save/Export functions, IIRC and not just on the dev list.

Having written some really basic in-house programs, my anecdotal
evidence suggests that almost *any* change will cause at least some
portion of the users to hate you ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Richard Gitschlag
 wrote:
> You should be saving your .xcf file first, THEN save the PNG copy of it.
> Priorities :)

Indeed.  I also try to "Save As" every hour or so and bump up the
version of the XCF.  Disk space is cheap ;)

But mistakes can happen, particularly when under a punishing deadline.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-04 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Daniel Smith  wrote:
> Can I ask if this decision to go to export vs. save, is it somewhat based
> around needs of people running gimp without the interface, as a server
> component?

No - it has to do with these two items, specifically:

http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

For myself, export/overwrite still seems clumsy when working on
simple, one-off edits.  OTOH, I no longer have to worry about
accidentally flattening my 10-layer composition when saving a PNG and
then forgetting to resave as XCF.  I'm thinking the long-term gain of
not having to recreate hours of work is a big enough carrot that I can
bear the stick of forced overwrite/export.  I'm still getting used to
it though, and who knows - maybe export/overwrite can be refined a
bit.

Just my 0.02 to keep the flame war moving along nicely ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP question

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM, brad stevenson  wrote:
> i am trying to save a 'template' design with the picture and the bulk of the
> text, hoping to then be able to reopen the project and edit the text
> to change the name for each card.

Save your "template" file as .XCF format (GIMP's native file format).

That will preserve things like text layers.

Then open your XCF, make needed changes, and then 'Save As...' or
'Export' to the format needed for printing.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] How can I create huge billboard sized files in super high dpi?

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
>>  I am printing super high res images onto fabric. My print guy has
>> instructed me to create my images in 1440 dpi
>
> I think he meant 144 dpi, which is a common resolution used for colour
> images in print.
>
> If the thread count of the fabric is 200 or higher (e.g. a high-end
> sheet or a silk shirt) it'd plausibly take twice the thread count or
> more, but I'd say try a sample at 144dpi.

And if the final product is to be viewed at some great distance (eg, a
billboard) then 144 DPI may be higher than required.  We did a 30ft/9m
long banner some time ago that worked out fine at 75 DPI - we could
likely have gone lower, since it was so far off the ground.

But yeah - I doubt you could tell the difference between _any_ fabric
printed at 200 DPI and anything higher, even up close.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crop to oval?

2012-03-30 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>>> For your question, I don't know of a way to do this without the use of
>>> layers.
>
> Fast and simple:

Faster, simpler:

Make your oval selection
Press [CTRL]+[i]
Press [Delete]

And as others have pointed out, you may with to feather the selection
- but this is the shortest path to your goal.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Why does saves as JPG default to quality 85?

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Liam R E Quin  wrote:
> Maybe it would be less confusing to make the numbers go from 0 to 255 or
> something. Then 255 would be 100% of the allowed value.

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of users now: "I followed the
tutorial exactly and saved the final JPEG at 85 quality but now it
looks terrible!!!1!" ;)

And then the brains exploding when explaining that 85 is 33% of 255.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

2012-03-22 Thread Chris Mohler
[posting back to the list - use reply-all intead of reply]

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:46 AM, Robert Bruyns  wrote:
> OK Chris, thank you very much for your helpful advice given in your email
> below.
>
> I do wonder though if you noticed that your method transfers image seizing
> from the cursor/pointer to the keyboard? And that means using both hands
> when needing to change image sizes.

Yeah - I work with both hands most of the time ;)


> I'd like to continue using the cursor/pointer  as an image seizing interface
> though [without opening the "View" > "Zoom" pane sequence 'cos I'm lazy and
> given that my el cheapo laptop has only a touchpad facility [which I didn't
> mention before] most of the bottom series of keys, including "F" and "H" are
> normally within the range of my fingertips when my hands are lying on the
> laptop. I've therefore activated two of the closest unused keys, "comma" and
> "period" as the functions suggested by yourself. It just seems to me that
> all the other facilities are at the top of the screen and it would simply
> make sense to have the image size selection there too...
>
> But what the hey - as I said its no biggie and the amazing versatility of
> the software [ would that MS, Apple, IBM and the various Linux applications
> were so flexible ] is what I find to be so awesome. GIMP allows one to
> innovate to suit the specific requirements of whatever the task is.
>
> I don't think I've duplicated any of my previous procedures. Each task has
> unique needs - it's a constant evolution to which I have yet to find
> limitations. Always a new method to achieve the same goal. With MS Paint I
> was pretty much pushing the boundaries as I evolved compensatory techniques
> to  accomplish my objectives but with GIMP I've yet to discover any serious
> inadequacies. Yes, I have often bumped my head on the "Eeek" section of the
> "Help" file but there is always another interesting way to do the job.
> P'haps the top two or three percent of users have grumbles but I'm also very
> sure they have the expertise to re-write any software with which they have
> issues.
>
> But here I'm preaching to the converted! Too much unnecessary information...
>
> Thanks again for your response.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

2012-03-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Patrick Shanahan  wrote:
> :^)   I have a wheel-mouse, tackball w/wheel, and my bamboo tablet all
> configured.

I used to have a mouse for my left hand, but this smaller desk doesn't
really have the room.  There is a wacom mouse you can set on the
tablet, but it's pretty awful.  I keep on the desk though, because
certain programs (Filezilla, I'm looking at you) and some websites
(looking at you Dreamhost) don't play well with the tablet.

> btw, I would be interested in your wacom tablet button settings.
> tks,

Pretty much the defaults.  It's an Intuos 3 - I use the two pen tips
for tools.  One side of the pen's rocker switch is pan, the other side
is right-click.  Once upon a time, I bound the buttons on the pad to
do things, but haven't bothered on my current system since I hardly
ever used them.  I generally have the pressure sensitivity mapped to
opacity for most things - but I toggle that on and off.  I'm mainly
retouching photos for use in print designs these days - not much
painting or creation from scratch.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

2012-03-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> By default, you can also use Control+mouse wheel to zoom in and
> out.  That's my favorite...

Alas, no wheel on my wacom pen/tablet ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

2012-03-19 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Robert Bruyns  wrote:
> There are, of course, changes I'd like to see such as moving the
> magnification facility from the bottom of the image to the top.

The first thing I do upon firing up GIMP for the first time:

Open Edit->Keyboard Shortcuts.

Expand the 'View' list.

Scroll down to 'Zoom In' (view-zoom-in), click it.

Press the "=" key (this is next to the minus key on my keyboard, along
the top row of numbers).

Press 'Close' button on the dialog.

After that I can use the -/= keys at the top of the keyboard to zoom
in/out, and also the -/+ keys on the number pad to the right.  Without
the steps above the number pad works, but using the keys at the top,
you must use SHIFT-= to zoom in and - to zoom out.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

2012-02-16 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steve Kinney  wrote:
> Others may know uses for png that I am not aware of, but so far I
> have found no use for it in web design.

PNG is quite useful for some effects.  Say I wanted a div element to
have a gradient background - I could create a new image that's 1px
wide by the height of my div, add a gradient, export as PNG.  Then the
css would be something like:

div { background: url(/path/to/png/file) repeat-x }

..and all divs would have a gradient background, using one tiny file
(and even IE6 will comply). Quite useful for things like faux drop
shadows, rounded corners, etc. too (but newer CSS techniques are
arguably better/easier).

My general rule is: photograph -> JPEG, icon/effect ->PNG.  As with
every rule, there are exceptions ;)

Anyhoo, there are tons of uses for PNG in web design.  Check out a
Joomla template sometime - most of those do a crazy amount of styling
using PNG files.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Exporting high-quality PNG w/transparency?

2012-01-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Keith Purtell  wrote:
> A co-worker said GIMP couldn't make a PNG (w/transparency) with enough
> quality. He said we'd have to use some other software. Part of the issue was
> not being able to resize without losing quality before the PNG export. True
> or false?

False.  As long as the PDF has sufficient resolution (or is vector),
and you select a high enough resolution setting when importing the PDF
into GIMP, you shouldn't have quality issues.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] No help for working with scanned negatives

2012-01-28 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Daniel Krach  wrote:
> I didn't find *any* advice for handling a negative scan procedure inside the
> online help section.

http://www.freecolormanagement.com/color/gimp_negative_scanning.html

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gimp+scan+negatives

Check your scanning software for a "negative" setting - usually found
near the "color", "b/w" settings.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp newbie trying to get a job done.

2012-01-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Brent Shifley
 wrote:
> I do not.  Photobucket will not let me upload it either.

OK - for the record: the PDF is just a container for the raster image;
no layers or paths*.  So the JPEG at Photobucket is pretty much all
there is to work with.

I'm sure someone will chime in with a suggested method to isolate those areas...

Chris

* The PDF was generated by Word 2007, and appears to be a JPEG placed
in a blank .DOC then exported.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp newbie trying to get a job done.

2012-01-25 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Brent Shifley
 wrote:
> This is actually a much simpler graphic than what I would normally be using,
> but you get the idea.  In as few clicks as possible, I just want the green
> areas, and want the rest of the graphics transparent.

Hmm - do you have a link to the PDF version?  I wonder if perhaps the
green areas are vector and/or possibly on their own layer?

Chris
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