Re: [Gimp-user] Question about instaling
As far as I know GIMP won't run on mobile devices On Sun, May 29, 2022, 10:18 Varmavinden via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote: > Hello, I have a ipad pro second gen and I have downloaded the Gimp > installation file, but how do I get the downloaded file to open,so the > program/Gimp begins to work? > > I find the file, but can not get it opened > > I am very thankful for any help. > > Wilhelm > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [jmm] Bluetooth tricks?
This is a support list for The Gnu Image Manipulation Program. You may have better luck elsewhere. On Mon, Dec 27, 2021, 18:59 James Moe via gimp-user-list < gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote: > Hello, > Gnome 41.2 > opensuse tumbleweed 20211223 > linux 5.15.8-1-default x86_64 > bluez 5.62-2.1 > > Bluetooth on this host has never been a jolly affair; it has always been > persnickety on gnome/opensuse/linux. Whenever I boot the computer, I must > diddle > with bluetooth settings (on/off, connect) a bit to get a connection to a > bluetooth speaker (a Bose unit). > Initially connections are made and dropped, made again, dropped, > (repeat), and > finally made. All this time the speaker is proclaiming "connected!", > "disconnected!", etc. > With the most recent update of the system, bluetooth simply refuses to > function. In Settings it shows as turned off. If I turn it on, it shows it > is in > Airplane mode, When I disable that, bluetooth turns off. Round and round. > I gave up. > > Can anyone suggest some magical incantations that will have bluetooth > behave > as a reliable service? > > -- > James Moe > moe dot james at sohnen-moe dot com > 520.743.3936 > Think. > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination
Ruben Safir wrote: you. Nobody really disputes that GIMP is a "harmless" word to the majority of the worlds population. But "majority" is not necessarily the relevant metrics here. Actually it is. There is also the political aspect of not caving into newspeak despots This, so much this. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Violation of GNOME Code of Conduct - ablelist language and discrimination
Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Michael Richards via gimp-user-list [05-27-21 19:34]: Thank you Frederico, I appreciate this. I have removed myself from the GIMP-user-list for now but am open to speaking with the maintainers of Gnu Image Manipulation Program, the CoC, and/or the board of directors if any or all of those groups wish. My intention is not to cause trouble for anyone but to help make open source software more welcoming to, and safe for, everyone. My thanks to you, the other members of the CoC, and the Gnome Foundation board of Directors addressing this request. Sincerely, Mike Michael Richards, BSc (he/his) Victoria BC, Canada On May 27, 2021, at 3:18 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 11:19 -0700, Michael Richards via code-of- conduct-committee wrote: I formally request that the GIMP name be changed on the basis that it violates the GNOME Code of Conduct. Hi, Michael, thanks for your report. The CoC committee is aware of this problem, and the GNOME Foundation's Please do not purport to speak for me as I am perfectly happy with the current name and have been so for many years now. I vote for no name change. I too am happy with the current name. I've never had any issues with it for the decades I've been using it. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Of Cabbages and Kings
Rick Strong wrote: With 3.49 Million deaths world-wide from COVID, etc., etc., etc., there are greater things to occupy our thoughts and take our energy, IMHO. GIMP has been my go-to program for years now and that won't change. RS ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list I've been using The GIMP on and off since at least 1997 (maybe later in 1999, I don't exactly remember) and I never once found the name offensive (I do have a maligned limb, though not the leg). I've never once associated The GIMP with 'unusual' sexual preferences or anyone's purported disability. I use it to edit photos and inexpertly create memes. While the OP is entitled to his opinion, he isn't entitled to demand others to cater to what he (and/or others) think and honestly it was the demanding tone of the OP that ticked me off and put me off from replying until now. Apologies to Mr. Strong for sending the initial reply directly to him. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Portable Installation of GIMP 2.10.20
On 2020-06-30 12:16, Joe Ciras via gimp-user-list wrote: > > > Is it possible to install GIMP 2.10.20 on a portable flash drive? > > I have GIME 2.10.18 on a portable flash drive through PortableApps.com and > it is not being updated to GIMP 2.10.20. > > > > Joe I imagine it's possible. Is the maintainer of the portableapp package abandoning it? -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] VPAT Software Request
On 2020-06-12 12:55, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 12 June 2020 08:33:47 Michael Schumacher wrote: >> https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.odt > > clicking on this, also opens a blank page, with the .odt name in the > lower left corner. double-clicking on that opens libreoffice and shows > it, and will export a ITI.VPAT(1).pdf that chromiun can display just > fine. > >> https://www.gimp.org/about/ITI-VPAT.doc > > I didn't try this .doc link. > Point being that a good .pdf just works, this doesn't without loading > the .odt and reprocessing it. > >> Could be that simply exporting the ODT to PDF with LibreOffice will >> now create a PDF file Chromium does like, maybe you could try this? >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Michael >> GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD >> ___ >> gimp-user-list mailing list >> List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org >> List membership: >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > This is a good PDF, Firefox on Windows 10 Pro. The problem exists with Chromium or your particular setup. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Auto Logo Creation
Dear List, In prior versions of The GIMP there was a feature I liked using for creating logos from a varied set of presets. What happened to it? I cannot find it (or anything similar) in GIMP 2.10.8 (Windows 10 Pro). -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr https://www.coinbase.com/join/51f062d0be46074e933f ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Adjusting the opacity of a layer
On 10/19/2016 14:02, James Moe wrote: > opensuse 42.1 (linux) > gimp 2.8.16 > > To adjust an image for background use, I would add a layer filled with > white, then adjust the opacity until the image has been faded to some > desired level. > I searched the docs. It recommended using the Mode option from the > Layer menu. There is no Mode option. > > In Photoshop changing the opacity of a layer is trivial. > How do I do so in GIMP? In the layers dialog there is a slider bar that enables you to adjust the opacity of any layer independently of the rest (no need to add another layer, either). Here is a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/T4W9ejc.png It is less than trivial to adjust opacity in GIMP. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Camouflage Patterns
On 10/18/2016 16:19, Steve Kinney wrote: > On 10/18/2016 04:38 PM, Jan Kandziora wrote: >> Am 18.10.2016 um 22:22 schrieb Joseph A Nagy Jr: >>> Does anyone know of a good source for random camouflage patterns >>> for use in GIMP? I'm looking to make a firearms related image and >>> am wanting to use a camouflage background for the entire image. >>> >> Camouflage patterns aren't random. See >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_camouflage_patterns > > This is exactly the kind of thing the resynthesizer plugin does best. I > don't recall if it's a stock part of the GIMP installation or has to be > obtained via a separate package. If you don't have a menu item for Heal > Transparency as indicated below, check your package manager or the GIMP > plugin registry. Thank you for the kind response. > First, find or make a camo pattern that suits you. The example below > was made from an image from wikimedia (see quote above), scaled down to > 300x300 pixels to get quicker results. The process: > > 1) Open your sample camoflage image in the GIMP, save as XCF. > > 2) Do Image > Canvas Size, and set it to the size you need your > finished background to be, with the existing layer centered. > > 3) Do Layer > New Layer. Select the sample layer, do control+c to copy > it, select the transparent layer, do control+v to paste the copied > layer, and click the "anchor" icon in the layers dialog to merge the > pasted copy into the transparent layer. > > 4) Do Filters > Enhance > Heal Transparency. If the "outward from > center" option is not already selected, select it. In the sample below, > the 50px sample radius (default) worked quite well. Hit OK and go make > a cup of coffee or something - this is a very complex and therefore > rather slow filter. When you come back, you should like what you see. > > Before: > http://pilobilus.net/xfer/camo.jpg > > After: > http://pilobilus.net/xfer/camo.large.jpg > > :o) I will definitely look into this for future projects (and may use it on this one if I don't like what I've found), but I did manage to find this: http://registry.gimp.org/node/24331 I do, however like your results. Definitely will look into that process as I'm fleshing out exactly how I want the final product to look (or just to have multiple options). -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Camouflage Patterns
On 10/18/2016 15:22, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote: > Does anyone know of a good source for random camouflage patterns for use > in GIMP? I'm looking to make a firearms related image and am wanting to > use a camouflage background for the entire image. > Never mind, found what I needed in the plugin registry. Sorry for the bother. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Camouflage Patterns
On 10/18/2016 15:38, Jan Kandziora wrote: > Am 18.10.2016 um 22:22 schrieb Joseph A Nagy Jr: >> Does anyone know of a good source for random camouflage patterns >> for use in GIMP? I'm looking to make a firearms related image and >> am wanting to use a camouflage background for the entire image. >> > Camouflage patterns aren't random. See > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Military_camouflage_patterns > > Kind regards > > Jan I understand that camouflage as used by the military is not a random pattern. not really the point. I guess I should have been clearer: I am looking for a way to generate random camouflage-style patterns (including color choice). The closest I've found is the Circuit tool but it generates in black and white with no apparent option to change that. Accidentally sent previous reply off-list. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Camouflage Patterns
Does anyone know of a good source for random camouflage patterns for use in GIMP? I'm looking to make a firearms related image and am wanting to use a camouflage background for the entire image. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] How to Open Pdf File?
On 10/06/2016 18:29, Jehan Pagès wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:49 AM, Clipper <for...@gimpusers.com> wrote: >> Thanks Jan, >> >> I have Adobe Reader but do not see an export option, just Save as... but not >> sure how to make that work. >> >> I am running windows 10 and have a very limited budget on this volunteer >> project. >> >> Was looking at PDF print drivers on-line. This seems like a simple solution. >> Do you have any recommendations for one that will allow me to use a custom >> paper >> size of 26" X 38" and maintain 1200 dpi. Are you familiar with PDF 995, will >> that work? > > Printing to pdf may indeed be a good solution. I can't give you good > advice on which "PDF printer driver" to install because I don't use > Windows. It is much easier on Linux where such features are default. I can export by default, on Win10/64, to pdf on Chrome, MS Office, GIMP, OpenOffice, and probably Firefox. > > If you don't manage this way, I could also advise Scribus, which has a > good support for importing, editing and exporting PDF for printing: > https://www.scribus.net/ > Note: use the development release (1.5.x) and not the stable release. > The different in PDF support is huge. This is good advice, take it. -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services Need a website? Go with the pros: http://www.bluehost.com/track/janagyjr signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Most current version of GIMP
On 09/24/2016 15:19, Elle Stone wrote: > On 09/24/2016 07:24 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: >> * FPC Music Ministry <astry...@fpcbentonville.org> [09-24-16 05:55]: >>> In order to ensure I have the latest version of GIMP, should I >>> uninstall previous versions before downloading and installing the >>> most recent version? >>> >>> I currently have 2.8.4 on my computers. > > Whether you need to uninstall previous versions probably depends on what > operating system you are running. On Linux your package manager takes > care of making sure there are no file clashes between the old and new > versions. > > On Windows, at least for Partha's builds (http://www.partha.com/, > right-hand column notes - Partha has 2.8.14 available for 64-bit > Windows), yes you should uninstall the old version (the portable version > can be run without interfering with previous installations). > > If you have a lot of custom settings in your configuration folder, you > might want to make a backup of the config folder. People running GIMP on > Windows would hopefully have more details. I use Gimp for Windows (currently have Gimp installed on Win 8.1 x64 and Win 10 x64) and just install over older versions. I've never had an issue with this method (on any version of Windows I've used The GIMP on). >>> - > >>> CONFIDENTIAL: The contents of this email, including attachments, is >>> intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed >>> and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, >>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any >>> action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other >>> than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in >>> error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this >>> information. >>> > >> returning this to you per your posted instructions although i find it >> impossible to completely comply as i do not have possession of many of >> the >> copies. if this was not your intention, you should post w/o the *stupid* >> trailer, or stop using work related product for personal reasons. >> >> > > Trailers such as the above do seem oddly out of place when posted to an > open mailing list that's duplicated many times over on many servers. > > But it's entirely possible that the OP uses GIMP at work and *for* work, > so assumptions to the contrary aren't really warranted. > > If someone else already answered the OP's original question, please > excuse my two-cent's worth! Perhaps, but it's still a ridiculous disclaimer, though. > > Elle -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner Boo-LaLa(Enterprises) d.b.a. Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with transparency
On 05/19/2016 23:33, acctingman wrote: > Hello > > Just downloaded GIMP yesterday and I need help with transparency > > In the attachment, the little open area (that is white) I need it to be > transparent so I can see another numbered dial that it will go on top of. > > I know nothing about image editing, so this is a big request and more than > happy > and willing to do my homework. > > Could someone break down how to make that little area transparent (while > keeping > all the icons and lettering on the dial remain white)? > > Thank you > > Attachments: > * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/245/original/base.png > Use the cut tool to remove that section, or the eraser tool to make to erase the color and leave a transparent section. original: http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/tech-support/gimp-help/01.base.png example modification using eraser tool: http://joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/tech-support/gimp-help/01.base-example.png hth -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner, Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Help
On 05/19/2016 13:46, Pat David wrote: > Hi John, > > This description is rather vague and makes it hard for us to help. Could > you be a little more specific and include any screenshots that might help > us figure out what's going on? > > pat > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:23 PM john walters <john.walters1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The software won't load starts then windows report box comes up While it is vague, and mostly unhelpful, it sounds like a Windows compatibility issue (I am currently in the midst of a compatibility crisis on my machine (8.1 Pro) so this problem is all too familiar to me). What version of Windows is this running on? Have you tried the compatibility settings available in 7/8/10? Have you run the Windows troubleshooter (8/10, not sure if this is available in 7) to see if Windows could correct the problem? What version of GIMP? -- Sincerely, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. Owner, Trinity Electrical & Handyman Services signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting a 32 bit install on a 64 bit system
On 1/11/2015 6:47 PM, Erik Lavender wrote: Basically I need to be able to setup a 32 bit install onto a thumb drive so I can use it on a computer with 32 bit windows (I don't have admin Check out PortableApps, they have GIMP bundled for use on a thumb drive. rights). So I need to get this installed from my 64 bit windows computer on which I do have admin rights. You can install any 32-bit app on a 64-bit machine without problems, so unsure of the issue here. Any ideas? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP Freezes When Trying to Load Fonts
Windows 8.1 Home 64-bit 2.1GHz AMD Sempron SI-42 (x64) 3GB RAM (2.75 available) I click on the icon to launch GIMP, it gets to the 'loading fonts' portion of starting up and then freezes. Eventually I can click on the splash screen and Windows offers to kill the process or let me wait some more (I often opt to kill it). I don't have a lot of fonts past the basics installed. Either way it hasn't been a problem except for the last 3 months. GIMP 2.8 (latest afaik). Any ideas? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Save v Export behaviour
On 12/3/2013 12:26 PM, Richard wrote: snip Cleaning the 'dirty' flag after export isn't going to happen - there is a user-made GIMP plug-in that will do this for you (it adds an Export Clean type command to the File menu) but the core behavior isn't negotiable :( Dirty flag? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Windows Installer - 64 or 32 bit?
On 11/7/2013 4:08 AM, Wolfgang Hugemann wrote: Hello to all, I am new to this list (but not so new to Gimp). I will hold a photo and video editing seminar tomorrow where I will present Gimp as an alternative to Photoshop. There has been only one precompiled Windows Installer for Gimp ever since and I wonder whether it installs a 64 bit or a 32 version of Gimp - or just chooses the adequate (?). The program's Help info is of not much help in regard to this issue. 32 vs. 64 bit software seems to bee a big issue under Window at the moment and will surely provoke questions tomorrow. So could you please enlighten me? Greetings from Germany Wolfgang Hugemann Asked and answered, the Windows downloader pulls the one needed if I read Jernej's post right. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Putting a GIF on top another GIF
On 08/23/13 14:39, christopher.draper93 wrote: I'm trying to combine 3 GIFs with one on top, one in the middle, and one on the bottom. When I played the GIF it showed the top one move and a white space where the other two should be then the top one froze then went onto the middle one then that one froze and went to the bottom one then repeated the cycle. If you want to see what I am talking about let me know. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list I'm not sure what the initial problem was, but it sounds as if you made an animated GIF (with a long delay between frames)? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
On 08/16/13 08:17, physoc wrote: I downloaded GIMP today (16 August) and run Win 7 (64-bit). I've been unable to get it to start because it crashes when 'querying plugins' in the 'Startup' routine. If I close the GIMP window and try again it skips across the previous plugin .exe but then hangs at the next one. After ten-minutes of closing/ running/ hanging.etc., I gave-up! Free software is fine if it works, if it doesn't it's just a few deleted bits in the Recycle Bin OK, problem identified and fixed. My problem was with ZONE ALARM firewall settings. It required GIMP access to be set manually to allow internet access. This maybe what is causing the problem with others. Check any firewall settings. I've ran Zone Alarm and it shouldn't be interfering with The GIMP starting up (especially since, afaik, The GIMP doesn't need the Internet to work). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 08/11/13 08:41, Richard Gitschlag wrote: On the contrary, this is the dangerous situation... - load file - create complicated selection/path to update part of the image - update that part - export image - quit (and throw the selection away...). IMHO the only safe case is when the image has one singe layer without mask, no channels, no paths, no selections. GIMP is the only application I know of where the selection mask is considered actual document content (rather than an interface entity used for manipulating document content). That was a very workflow-breaking issue to come to terms with, and actually much more so than Save vs. Export. I had meant to send this on-list yesterday...didn't realize my error until Richard replied off-list. Don't forget the 'floating selection' layer that prevents you from editing any other layer in the image. Excessively frustrating when you're looking to use one particular image in a variety of ways. That plus the new save vs. export is very workflow breaking. Reference Image: http://www.joseph-a-nagy-jr.us/images/other/01.bitsale.xcf The stylized 'B' is the one I'm talking about. I just copy/paste and scale as needed but I cannot work on anything else until I anchor it. Very frustrating when I want to adjust something underneath to match it while it is still a separate layer (and I would like to keep it a separate layer, too). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] [OT] My Apologies
To All, I would like to offer my apologies for my attitude and behavior on the recent export vs. save threads. I am sorry for any disruption it might have caused, my attitude was most certainly uncalled for regardless of whatever opinions I may hold. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/20/13 19:07, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com [07-20-13 19:50]: On 07/20/13 18:03, Jernej Simončič wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:20:56 -0500, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: Windows isn't secure or stable enough. Wow, people are still living in the 90's. I am also unahppy at how unfree FOSS is, fettered with crap licenses like the GPL. Sounds like you don't know what FOSS authors mean by Free. Free as in free do with as I please, as long as I don't claim it as my work. Any other restriction makes it non-free, And now you confirm that you don't know what FOSS authors mean by Free. I'm sorry that FOSS authors don't actually mean 'free', then. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 14:06, Andrew Bridget wrote: Most users don't need to use .xcf So how do you save layers without using .xcf ? and you are presuming 'Most', do the 'Few' save in .psd in Photoshop ? You save in .png, of course, which keeps layers intact. Again, though, that is a choice. xcf is a raw image format which 90% of basic image editing can ignore. I use both xcf and png when working with images (using png as my 'final' format many times). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 15:03, Andrew Bridget wrote: Completely useless for the vast majority who only want to quickly open a camera-produced .jpeg, rotate, crop and rescale it, and never work on it again. Cheers, Ron. So why use GIMP ? It's free, unlike Photoshop? And has more features, unlike MS Paint (or whatever its called now). It's the only reason I started using it at all. Sorry, meant it to the list the first time. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 16:10, scl wrote: On 19.07.13 at 9:21 PM Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: Completely useless for the vast majority who only want to quickly open a camera-produced .jpeg, rotate, crop and rescale it, and never work on it again. So, then GIMP is perhaps not the right choice for your workflow. It's like buying a big road cruiser and then complaining that it doesn't fit into a narrow parking bay. So, obviously, the cruiser must be a bad car ;-) Except GIMP was fine with that until the developers recently changed it. It's like trying to tell people that you removed the simple ignition system and replaced it with a slightly more complex (and possibly superior) ignition system that significantly deviated from the expected norms and that if they didn't like it, it was their fault because their expectations were wrong in the first place even though for the previous 15 years those expectations were happily catered to. A quick and easy software to edit your camera images might be a better choice for the use cases you mentioned. For instance think of the accompaniment software that is shipped with your camera, image viewers, digikam, Xnview, iPhoto, Picasa etc. You can anyway use GIMP for more complex image editing tasks, like retouching, photomontages or effects. Kind regards, Sven So is GIMP no only for those professionals who do more then a quick edit? If so, that is mighty snobbish (though it fits in with the general developer snobbery that has been permeating the F/OSS culture for the past few years). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 17:10, Kasim Ahmic wrote: I could ask you the same thing. Yes, if you SAVE the image, you'll have all the layers intact. However, if you EXPORT the image, all the layers are merged. snip That is a new and unexpected behavior. I used to save png with layers intact. Now the merge isn't even mentioned. What else have you folks changed? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 17:17, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: On 07/19/13 17:10, Kasim Ahmic wrote: I could ask you the same thing. Yes, if you SAVE the image, you'll have all the layers intact. However, if you EXPORT the image, all the layers are merged. snip That is a new and unexpected behavior. Have you actually seen GIMP 2.8 up close? :) It's how it's been working since early 2.7.x days, for the past 3+ years. What else have you folks changed? You mean, what else we have improved? :) http://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.8.html No, this is not an improvement. More developer snobbery, thinking they know more than the average user. Disgusting. Unfortunately GIMP is still the best tool for working with images, despite the developers attempts otherwise. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 19:13, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: No, this is not an improvement. More developer snobbery, thinking they know more than the average user. Actually, it's the job of developers to know a lot about things like workflows, digital imaging and suchlike. It just so happens the mythic average user doesn't know a lot about all those things. No, you're right about that. They don't, and shouldn't be forced into them, especially when the old workflow was just fine. In my experience any attempt to teach users good practices will be met by a few snobbery accusations. Today it's you who issues them. Tomorrow it will be someone else. It's not your job to teach us anything. The average user neither needs nor wants to understand that the direct implementation of the do as I say, or else you are a snob who doesn't listen to users rule leads to inconsistent, cluttered, unusable interfaces. I don't blame you for not understanding that. Obviously you can't know everything. I understand that concept very well, what happened here though - while maybe an improvement for the professional - is a huge change in the workflow of many, many other users, all of which whom are being ignored or told to shut up and go away. But here's an idea. If using GIMP makes you sulking and soar all the time (and this is not the first time you are complaining about a specific change), perhaps it's time for you to think why you want to invest your time into this unhealthy relationship? No, it's not. I don't like the single-window mode but at least I can change that permanently through some options. This new export/save workflow isn't really all that helpful (though it's not terrible, it's completely foreign to many long-time users, as people keep posting about it are saying). I've already invested many years into using The GIMP, my question to you is why should I learn something else? Especially when nothing else really fits my needs (which go beyond simple corrections to digital camera photos) or particular work environment. What I - and many others who are complaining about this change - really want is a consistently working program where at the very least such a major change has - at least temporarily at the very least - an option to revert to the more familiar and desired behavior. Why is that so hard to understand? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 20:19, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: In my experience any attempt to teach users good practices will be met by a few snobbery accusations. Today it's you who issues them. Tomorrow it will be someone else. It's not your job to teach us anything. Oh it is :) No matter how much you personally resist. You might as well tell us to stop producing the user manual -- after all, if we are not allowed to teach you, then let's be consistent about that, eh? :) Let me rephrase that: It's not your job to teach us about our workflow. Everyone works differently. The old way of save/save as worked just fine. There was NOTHING wrong with it. I understand that concept very well, what happened here though - while maybe an improvement for the professional - is a huge change in the workflow of many, many other users, all of which whom are being ignored or told to shut up and go away. Nobody is being ignored on this list. And before you argue, I suggest you check the definition of ignore in a dictionary again. But here's an idea. If using GIMP makes you sulking and soar all the time (and this is not the first time you are complaining about a specific change), perhaps it's time for you to think why you want to invest your time into this unhealthy relationship? No, it's not. It is --- what? Your statement doesn't make sense grammatically. What does it refer to? Yes it does make sense grammatically, I'm responding to your claim that this isn't the first complaint I've had about The GIMP (though I couldn't tell you what that was, I also do not really care). that permanently through some options. This new export/save workflow isn't really all that helpful (though it's not terrible, it's completely foreign to many long-time users, as people keep posting about it are saying). Many? Do you have solid statistics confirming that? Howe many people does ot take to be considered many, exactly? If there are e.g.15 unhappy people on the list, is that considered many against tens or hundreds of thousands of users around the world? I'd say from the number of people who keep contributing to these sorts of threads asking for the old way of doing things, it's more than 15 unhappy people. As for those others, I'm sure if they felt it would change anything, more of them would complain. I've already invested many years into using The GIMP, my question to you is why should I learn something else? Because you are obviously unhappy. I'm unhappy about one or two features. I'm unhappy about a lot of things. I don't like the ports system in FreeBSD, I'm unhappy I cannot build OpenOffice or LibreOffice with clang. In all those cases, though, nothing else meets my needs. Windows isn't secure or stable enough. MSO sucks in comparison to LibreOffice (the only thing I use MSO for is Avery templates as they have never worked 100% properly in OO or LO). The same with The GIMP. Shotwell doesn't meet my needs (and may as well be a dead project for as slowly as it's updated). Inkskape is something completely foreign. Photoshop is complex, expensive, and unweildly. digikam I can't get to compile/install no matter what I do. I am also unahppy at how unfree FOSS is, fettered with crap licenses like the GPL. Maybe I'm a masochist at heart, or perhaps I just don't like change all that much (I am certainly not in the minority in regards to the subject of this thread). Why is that so hard to understand? The request for a preferences checkbox _is_ understood. And respectfully rejected. snip If it was really understood, I don't think you all (the dev's) would be so quick to reject it (respectfully or otherwise). I really do not see how this new way is so much better EXCEPT when working with new images created /in/ The GIMP (which I do from time to time). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On 07/19/13 22:25, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: snip Everyone works differently. The old way of save/save as worked just fine. There was NOTHING wrong with it. There was nothing wrong with it _for you_. You cannot forbid other opinions on the matter to exist. That is essentially what is happening here, though. I'd say from the number of people who keep contributing to these sorts of threads asking for the old way of doing things, it's more than 15 unhappy people. As for those others, I'm sure if they felt it would change anything, more of them would complain. That's the thing: you are sure, but you don't really know. Discussing assumptions is a) boring, b) counterproductive. else meets my needs. Windows isn't secure or stable enough. MSO sucks in comparison to LibreOffice (the only thing I use MSO for is Avery templates as they have never worked 100% properly in OO or LO). There's dedicated software for that, you know. Like Glabels :) I have no idea what that is. The request for a preferences checkbox _is_ understood. And respectfully rejected. snip If it was really understood, I don't think you all (the dev's) would be so quick to reject it (respectfully or otherwise). That's arguing for arguing's sake. Is it really? I really do not see how this new way is so much better EXCEPT when working with new images created /in/ The GIMP (which I do from time to time). Just a few hours ago I opened half a dozen of existing images (not even made by me), did some color correction and cropping, used Liquid Rescale in a few cases to further improve composition, then added captions, saved XCFs (soo that I can fix things later, which I do) and exported JPGs. You don't have to understand _why_ people do that sort of thing. You only need to accept that people _actually do it_, and it makes sense to them. I do accept that people work like that. How many people have already commented, though, that they don't? I have one last question to you. You've already heard that nothing's going to change. What are you trying to accomplish by arguing anyway? Because I don't think anyone is actually listening, that's why. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Resizing a larger image to smaller image causes distortion
On 07/17/13 03:44, senoritaada wrote: Thanks very much for sharing all your thoughts. Before resizing larger image to smaller image you need to get the image exactly the the right shape with highest quality. Then your work will be much easier if you are a painter, web designer, photographer, graphics designer. There are many image resizing tools in market. The best that maintains edge clarity by keeping sharp and naturally smooth edges and reducing noise to manageable amounts. The sharpening-halos on the enlarged image must be reduced to get the best resized photo. Try reshade (www.reshade.com)image resizing tools. The distortion is only if you do not keep the aspect ratio locked. If you keep the dimensions locked to maintain the aspect ratio, there should be no distortion. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Hosting Wallpapers
On 07/17/13 14:09, Devyn Collier Johnson wrote: I make wallpapers using GIMP and I host them on various websites. I put my free wallpapers on Gnome-Look.org, OpenClipArt.org, and Flickr. I sell other wallpapers on Creativity.com. I am wanting to find more places where I can sell wallpapers via download. Mahalo, Devyn Collier Johnson devyncjohn...@gmail.com ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list I'm trying to fund a start-up that would enable folks to pay for downloadable goods in various cryptocurrencies (Bitcoin and litecoin will be the first two accepted cryptocurrencies with more accepted as our payment system evolves). Check out our launch blog at http://bitsale.wordpress.com -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
On 06/27/13 02:42, Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote: Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič: This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it. You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup. Not true. amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still have the delay over multiple sessions. Then you may be seeing the same or a similar bug on your platform. You didn't really specify how long that delay is, though. Before (2.8.4) it was close to 15 seconds. I've not really counted though as I just go to another works-space and prepare something else or check FB or something. I don't really see it as buggy. It doesn't matter whether you see something as a bug for it to be one. I know, just saying I didn't have a problem with it. If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the folders time-and-again. If it is missing, then it will be added (remember my comment about the caching based on the file modification time?). If a plug-in was there previously and has been changed, its query() procedure will be run again. See http://www.gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html for a more detailed description of a plug-in's key procedures. So there's no need for GIMP to re-query plug-ins all the time. As I wrote before, an GIMP launch with unchanged plug-ins should rush through that stage. -- HTH, Michael ___ Well, it seems to be the case now with the latest update 2.8.6 (e.g. it rushes through that step where before it never did). Because I used to that delay when I launched it after upgrading to 2.8.6 (admittedly only two launches since the update, but uncountable ones before) I would just launch and go do something else for a few moments while GIMP organized. After my last post to the list I had need to launch it again (to export some tif to jpg for use on Facebook) and paid attention and it just flew through like normal. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
On 06/26/13 07:02, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Jesse Pavel jpa...@alum.mit.edu [06-26-13 02:22]: Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not. It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but immediately queries all the plugins anyhow. [...] To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always* loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of platform. If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug. I am still on 2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start. I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded to 2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal behavior yet again. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
On 06/26/13 09:40, Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always* loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of platform. If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug. I am still on 2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start. I have the same experience as well, and have always had the same experience. GIMP queries for plugins at startup, I just upgraded to 2.8.6 but have yet to run it, though I'm expecting that normal behavior yet again. Yes, it does that. But in order to avoid querying plug-ins that haven't changed, their modification time is compared to the cached values. The whole query is hardly noticeable on a modern system except on the first launch (and launches after an upgrade). Regards, Michael ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list I have no idea what you're talking about. On every system I've ever put GIMP on in the 8 or so years I've used it, the start-up time is exactly the same no matter how many times I launch The GIMP, upgrades or not. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup
On 06/26/13 15:17, scl wrote: Am 26.06.13 22:11, schrieb Jernej Simončič: This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it. You're right. The 64 bit build doesn't have that delay on startup. Kind regards, Sven ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list Not true. amd64 FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p4 here, just updated to GIMP 2.8.6 and still have the delay over multiple sessions. I don't really see it as buggy. If there is something missing it will only be known by rescanning the folders time-and-again. Just my $2 worth. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP Scripting from the CLI
Hey All, I have about 160-ish images I scanned in as .tif's (my scanner offers .bmp, .jpg, .png, and .tif for saving scanned images as) @ 300-dpi. I'd like to batch export them all to .xcf (for future working with) and .png (I know I could have chose png to start but I thought .tif would be the better choice as a first format). Is it possible to do this with a shell-script? I'm fairly certain I could concoct something to .tif - .png using ImageMagick (I don't think it supports .xcf) but I'd like to use The GIMP for the whole process if possible, and I'd rather not do it by hand. As it is I'm going to have to figure out how to batch-rename (well, I know how I'm going to do it, a shell script, but how to write it is going to be the tough part for me) about 100 if the images to prepend a 0 to the file name (I started with a two-digit numbering system not realizing I had so many images and would like to keep all the names listing properly on FreeBSD). Anyway, I'm just interested in knowing from you guys if such a shell export-to-xcf-and-png script is even possible (I really, really do not want to do this manually). -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Scripting from the CLI
On 06/21/13 14:06, Alvin Hikmawan S.Psi. wrote: I 'm using GIMP 2.6 and when I wanna resizing a lot of pictures, i use david's batch processor feature. filter-batch. In the last tab of the window, you can pick the output file type (I think the *.png is in the list). Just try to playing with the feature some while, to get used to with it. I hope it can help you solving your converting problem. snip Sorry, I should have mentioned I'm using Gimp 2.8.4. Always forgetting the one key piece of info. Good rule learned from this? Never try to email at 2:30 in the morning after two cups of weak coffee and 2.5 hours of scanning. ;) -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Scripting from the CLI
On 06/21/13 14:26, Pat David wrote: I'm curious, why the desire to batch-export to .xcf? You can batch directly to .png and/or leave the .tif as they are, and allow GIMP to import them when you want to work on them (and _then_ save to .xcf as you work). I only saved to tif because I used the printer software's scan function which only offered bmp, jpg, tif, and png as out-put options. I felt tif would be 'good enough' until I could get them set up on my laptop (my wife's computer doesn't have The GIMP, space is at a premium on her machine atm and just no room or justification for a program she won't use). Once I have them in xcf, the tif's will go away. Maybe. I dunno. It sounded like a good idea at 2:30 this morning. *walks away for more coffee* -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? [saving undo history]
On 06/15/13 22:38, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sat, 2013-06-15 at 08:03 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:30:43 +0200 From: schum...@gmx.de To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] A sad case of regression ? . . . That's not perfect yet - for example, you lose the undo history . . . How often is Undo history ACTUALLY needed by the user, beyond fixing a ten-seconds-ago mistake? I can't personally name a single application that stores undo history with the document's workfile; but if you can, let me know. no-one swims across the river here so we don't need a bridge? I've used commercial software that stored editing history in a database - you can go back through the entire history of most aircraft manuals and see all the edits, for example, for obvious legal reasons. I've many times wished I could save undo history - e.g. I'm experimenting, but my flight is boarding or my battery is low. Liam Office software, when you set it to display revisions, in a way saves undo history. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
On 06/14/13 12:46, Crew wrote: You've never heard of Adobe Premiere, Kdenlive, Apple Final Cut, Apple Logic, Audacity, Cubase, Ardour, Blender? That's OK. Now you have Using the examples of video editing packages is rather disingenuous as they are all project based programs that work on the expectation of combining multiple files and outputting in a different format. A very different case. Care to give any examples of the genre of image editing programs that insist on defaulting to working on intermediate formats ? Sometimes it's better to accept a program's development has gone wrong and return it to a more acceptable workflow that matches the expectations of it's users. Paul Holman www.colourprofiles.com ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list Agreed 100%, also do not know why Audacity is in there. I expect audio to be saved in Audacity in wav file format (which is what it does), with a project file in some Audacity-specific format (which it does) and then when I'm done on the project, to export it to something other than wav (which I knew it would be in to start with). Totally different expectations then we have had for GIMP for over 10 years now. I'm getting used to the change, but I still do not like it one bit and it is still an interruption to the normal flow of work (open, edit, save, close, done). Now it's Open/import, edit, export, make sure image actually saved, close - dismissing any useless dialogue boxes because GIMP now works differently then it has for 10 years. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression.
Meant to send to list the first time, more non-standard behavior. On 06/14/13 13:43, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: Agreed 100%, also do not know why Audacity is in there. I expect audio to be saved in Audacity in wav file format (which is what it does) Which is what it does not. Audacity famously saves only project data and exports everything else. And yes, that includes WAV. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list You must not use Audacity, then. I happen to use it on a regular basis. All the project file does is point to all the wav's it creates as it records. Delete those wav's you lose your project. The .aup is just an xml file. Care to try again? -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Re;
On 06/14/13 20:46, Joyce wrote: Thank you for the help yesterday – it worked and I am learning. I do need more help; I have my second layer positioned correctly using the opacity. However, I can not erase the surrounding unwanted area. The eraser either leaves a color in the area or turned it to the grey and white squares. I have watched tutorials again and again, but can not seem to fix this. Thank you for a response. MAGS The 'grey and white squares' are the workspace underneath the layer, if you can see them, then you have made that section of the layer transparent. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
