[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: GPramachandran against "Grand Anti Communist Alliance"!!

2008-04-26 Thread damodar prasad
Dear rafeek ahmed, On 4/26/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > *Do you really expect "comments' on this stuff? > Do you believ that this is a way to initiate a dialogue?* ** Such insinuating remark is reprehensible. In a very similar vein to that of CPIM, you may have invented

[GreenYouth] Re: Women Are Being Beheaded for Taking Their Veil Off": Honor Killings On Rise in Iraq

2008-05-06 Thread damodar prasad
dear salim, I really doubt whether anti-imperialism whether anti-imperialism is synonymous with secular and modern!!! damodar On 5/6/08, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the poeple/ parties who proclaim saddam the champion of anti-imperialism > should realize that this is the society and g

[GreenYouth] Re: Women Are Being Beheaded for Taking Their Veil Off": Honor Killings On Rise in Iraq

2008-05-06 Thread damodar prasad
ular scientific grand universal marxist > > anti-imperialist movement is not 'really' anti-imperialist. > > > > > > On 5/6/08, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Apparently not. That's why Ahmedinejad, the Hamas,

[GreenYouth] T20

2008-05-10 Thread damodar prasad
h the 'nationalism" & "regionalism" in Cricket. We all know that the players from different cricketing nations used to play in English county well before the 'invention' of T20. Since I have not watched the Englis

[GreenYouth] SSLC results

2008-05-13 Thread damodar prasad
SSLC RESULTS: It seems the governance mechanism on the one side is acting out to regulate the self-financing colleges and on the other enabling their sustenance for a long-period. The record pass in SSLC is an indication of this. Now there will be an increase in no: of seats for plus two. Next tim

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-15 Thread damodar prasad
we expect from the acorns or neocons is a semblance of tranquility. But for them this is an opportunity to spread their hate propaganda and further bruise the body politic. . What they term by counter-terrorism is nothing other than terrorizing communities and retaliation based on neat

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread damodar prasad
hese matters and also who in an unbiased way can go to the truth of these acts, unlike the ones at present, where the pattern of investigation can be predicted right in advance due to the prevalent prejudices, which by now have become institutionalized." damoda

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread damodar prasad
I fully align with ur emotions but do u think we a need master moderator (like State) to intervene, guide But we will enagage with such propaganda & call a spade a spade damodar prasad On 5/17/08, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I wonder where have the Mas

[GreenYouth] swamis.com

2008-05-18 Thread damodar prasad
f virtue and is risk free. It will sweep the middle class of the world as the planet dies- as the planet is surely dying- of poisoned air and water." damodar prasad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-18 Thread damodar prasad
peace and war (and between foreign and civil war) becomes impossible. on agamben's *state of excpetion*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Agamben#State_of_Exception_.282005.29 take care, damodar prasad Best regards, > Murali > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 11:34 PM, salimtk &

[GreenYouth] Re: "The "New" Left In Latin America: What Chomsky Didn't Tell You

2008-05-22 Thread damodar prasad
On 5/22/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.countercurrents.org/salzman210508.htm > > *"The "New" Left In Latin America: What Chomsky Didn't Tell You* > > *By Lorna Salzman* > > 21 May, 2008 > *Countercurrents.org* > > *T*he pursuit of social justice doesn't always benefit

[GreenYouth] Re: FW: Fw: Jail in Japan!!

2008-05-24 Thread damodar prasad
dear salim, hoax or whatever, the 'intention" is the issue. Perhaps these things are being circulated 'intentionally". on sanctum-sanctorum called HOME, the better facilities in home can be re-defined in paralance of developmental disourse as "betterement of living conditions", CSO would phrase i

[GreenYouth] Re: FW: Fw: Jail in Japan!!

2008-05-25 Thread damodar prasad
at poor facilities in indian jails > are just for reducing crime rates. > > better kitchen facility is Still an issue of freedom of women. > > > On 5/25/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> dear salim, >> >> hoax or whatever

[GreenYouth] Re: Secularism on the Dock - What the Karnataka election results mean

2008-05-28 Thread damodar prasad
Dear Bobby, Some immediate thoughts: 1. In Karnataka, we need not fail to see the secular betrayal politics of JD(secular). When I say bertrayal, i am not pointing to the 'betrayal" version of BJP. That betrayal is part of the politcal game that we are witnessing since 1977. But the betrayal on p

[GreenYouth] Re: Secularism on the Dock - What the Karnataka election results mean

2008-05-28 Thread damodar prasad
ge pension from the IMF to > help start a hedge fund to negotiate instability :)* Which any way will be higher than the SDP of some Indian states:-) Best > > > 2008/5/28 damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Dear Bobby, >> >> Some immediate thoughts: >

[GreenYouth] Re: Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-05-28 Thread damodar prasad
Warrier sir, Without even engaing with the issue (for that matter any issue) meaningfully and imaginatively, u are more concened on pronouncing pre-judgements. Secondly, ur main laksya, I guess is to snub people only b 'coz they had enagaged on issuesd of concern from ones own point of perspective

[GreenYouth] Re: Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-05-28 Thread damodar prasad
inition.php?query=be> drawn <http://www.webdictionary.co.uk/definition.php?query=drawn> Data and Facts are inter-connected. Now, Pls. underline which you consid

[GreenYouth] hindu report

2008-06-02 Thread damodar prasad
friends, any views/ opinions/analysis/critiques/questions... A lot among the group members can really respond (eevn not entitled!!) http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/03/stories/2008060356482000.htm *Youngsters and 'news fatigue' * ** ** ** ** ** ** ** GOTEBORG: *Young adults experience news

[GreenYouth] Howard Zinn on Obama

2008-06-04 Thread damodar prasad
* * *http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JD04Aa01.html* ** *(Note: the interveiw was published early April4,2008.)* * * *INTERVIEW* *Obama in American history* *Howard Zinn** *Interview by Kaveh L Afrasiabi *American historian**, political scientist, social critic, activist and playwright

[GreenYouth] CPUSA says

2008-06-04 Thread damodar prasad
In the document on electoral policy 2008 , Communist Party of US observes about Obama: "The fact that the Democratic frontrunners are an African American and a woman speaks volumes on how far the country has come. Hillary Clinton's campaign has attracted large numbers of supporters, especially wom

[GreenYouth] Re: Untouchability in calcutta medical college

2008-06-05 Thread damodar prasad
On 6/5/08, Rajeeve Chelanat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The venom of *caste consciousness is fast spreading*, even in states > like Kerala, where it was rare some years back. It is with this weapon > that the upper castes fight the reservation rights of backward classes > for employment and ed

[GreenYouth] from the poem by langston hughes

2008-06-05 Thread damodar prasad
In the wake of bi-racial candidate, Obama's nomination for US presidency, an excerpt from *Langston Hughes poem (Cultural exchange) (1902-1967)* *..* *You know, right at Christmas They asked me if my blackness, Would it rub off? I said, Ask your mama. Dreams and nightmares! Nightmares, dr

[GreenYouth] Fwd: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE revisiting 1968

2008-06-08 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: venkity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 8, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE revisiting 1968 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dear allwe had discussed the spirit of 1968 earlier here are some ruminations on it regards venkity http://dissentmagazine.

[GreenYouth] congrats

2008-06-10 Thread damodar prasad
Though not members of this respectful public domain we should be congratulating all who have made the Malayalam parellel cinema proud.( doubt in case of priyamani). Congraulations are indeed perosnal. But we cleberate our cultural commoness. 1. Priyanandan 2. Priyamani 3. Nedumudi Venu 4. MP Su

[GreenYouth] Re: congrats

2008-06-11 Thread damodar prasad
On 6/11/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is there still doubt leftabt Priyamani, even after her brilliant > performance in one of the beautiful Indian movies - Paruthiveeran?!! > and why this aversion to "commercial cinema"? > how far s "*parallel cinema" really different? (how 'parall

[GreenYouth] Re: congrats

2008-06-11 Thread damodar prasad
ed? But when intellectuals who are already part of the establishment > get recognised by the establishment, isn't it a nonevent? > > Sorry, if I am raising it aginst the decorum and 'community' feelings :) > > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 7:36 AM, damodar prasa

[GreenYouth] Re: congrats

2008-06-11 Thread damodar prasad
us does not how to appreciate ect etc. (hiding all the envy!!).. But that may be true... but more *PRAVDA is mallus do know self-depreciation!! (which is not self-pity) * ** *damodar * On 6/11/08, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > damodar prasad wrote: > >> De

[GreenYouth] Re: congrats

2008-06-11 Thread damodar prasad
Pls read : more *PRAVDA is mallus do know self-depreciation!! (which is not self-pity) as DO NOT KNOW self-depreciation. * ** On 6/11/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anivar, > > by the way, Your response on Rajani S. Anand struck me. A flash of insight, &

[GreenYouth] Industrial and personal relations

2008-06-13 Thread damodar prasad
Dear all, All of you might have read in todays newspaper the interview with Thilakkan, ( he also received an national award last week) on the caste , community issue within the 'secular' film industry. I quote the Hindu report: "*personal animosity and casteims' had snatched away the national hono

[GreenYouth] just like that

2008-06-14 Thread damodar prasad
*Reinvent Journalism in 10 Easy Steps* ** So here are 10 things intended to "reinvent journalism": 1. Stop writing for the front page ( Upfrontality) 2. Stop treating journalism like a competition (dont imagine in terms of "my side"/"other side" etc) 3. Stop submitting your stories t

[GreenYouth] Fwd: for kind attention

2008-06-14 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: pk sasiddharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 14 Jun 2008 08:02:42 - Subject: for kind attention To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [

[GreenYouth] POLITICAL EXECUTIVE & LEGAL REMEDIES

2008-06-14 Thread damodar prasad
on and any criticism is dealt with 'heavy-handedness' particular as they the left is in power. This persecution mania created and transferred to the structure itself become an issue which in long-view is detrimental electorally and organizationally to the Left. In effect this set back of the

[GreenYouth] Re: POLITICAL EXECUTIVE & LEGAL REMEDIES

2008-06-15 Thread damodar prasad
ft governance since the impact of economic & political reforms from a historical perspective. Even if you engage with it or not, CPIM led LDF is in power and the implemenation of whatever measures impact on society unevenly. What ratioanle is there is dis engaging with this? I only focus the

[GreenYouth] Re: MACTA and Chullikkad

2008-06-16 Thread damodar prasad
Yes. Chullikkad appeared in "What & Talk" exactly as you predicted. dont say so, dileep *Pavam*Sincerely, I was reminded of "Pokuveyil". He entered very early in cinema b4 the superstars. Last time I saw him in a film was as "swami" in Bharathchandran IPS. Still looking for a chance or bre

[GreenYouth] Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: POLITICAL EXECUTIVE & LEGAL REMEDIE

2008-06-17 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 16, 2008 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: POLITICAL EXECUTIVE & LEGAL REMEDIE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As the saying goes: Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder the lament Mr. Ah

[GreenYouth] CASTE AS RACE

2008-06-17 Thread damodar prasad
COMBATING BIASES *Caste as race * Over the years, the Indian government has been steadfast in its unwillingness to consider caste-based discrimination as racial discrimination, despite the many arguments in its favour. Ipshita Sengupta reports.

[GreenYouth] Fwd: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE Fwd: TO THE MEDIA: Letter to Indian authorities regarding the golf course controversy in Kerala

2008-06-17 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: T T Sreekumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 18, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE Fwd: TO THE MEDIA: Letter to Indian authorities regarding the golf course controversy in Kerala To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Letter from the Global Anti-Golf Movemen

[GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-18 Thread damodar prasad
Is an approavl required to join GY? I dont think anyone has to wait for approval- anyway not in green youth. Pls. ignore this if the memembership is *approved. * damodar On 6/19/08, Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Moderators, please welcome this young friend and writer Asma Siddiquie fro

[GreenYouth] Re: Dalit Feminism and Black Feminism

2008-06-18 Thread damodar prasad
dear viswanath, Can I've the full text. I think there is more in the interview. can you recommend a few best e-journals on a variety of areas like: feminism, marxism, dalit politics, identities, global social movements etc. etc. On 6/19/08, C.K. Vishwanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >

[GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hi, > anti-modernist = may be most of the discussions in this group are > tinted with postmodern vocabulary. > *romantic = wish i cud see a single one in this group*. hahahah.. I enjoyed.. > green environmental = not a bad color.

[GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
>> but.. this is a big but hihi >> >> >> >> >>>it's funny to think that sending >> >> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >> >> criticism. >> >> >> >> it s really funn

[GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
LIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be mo

[GreenYouth] Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member! To: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> moreover, imagine the kind of cruelty (at the same time appearing as very mo

[GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
all these discussions are taking under the subject: Pls approve asma as memeber. am ashamed Dear asma, do u really wnat to be member of this group? damodar On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- Forwarded message ------ > From: d

[GreenYouth] Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-19 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member! To: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thats precisely what i intended pointing out identities are fluid and thats

[GreenYouth] HAWAI chappal

2008-06-20 Thread damodar prasad
Hi, Read this editorial. The third editorial in ET is really really interesting to read. I guess it is written by someone like the thrid editorial writer charachter in NS Mdhavan's "Thousand and one nights".. Poignant. * http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Editorials/Hawai_Indian_feet_ar

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a member!

2008-06-21 Thread damodar prasad
ks for informing me my "problem"* > > *i would definetly consult u in future also ( dont take it otherwise. it > s > > friendly comment only)* > > *no personal issue with u or any other greenwallah here* > > ** > > *dont wanna make u dig more and wast

[GreenYouth] Re: sachimash on amitavghosh

2008-06-21 Thread damodar prasad
pleasure reading it..research combined ( or dissolved?) with creativity >> >> here's a song >> >> ...uthle ha chati ke jobanwa >> piya ke khelawna re hoi... >> ...her budding breasts are ready >> to be her lover's toys >> >> &

[GreenYouth] Breaking the Monolith

2008-06-22 Thread damodar prasad
Zaiuddin Sardar's new work "Breaking the Monolith" may be of interest to many of you. Thsi is a collection of essays,columns and articles published at several journals. Many of you are familiar with his works- postmodern & other, why do people hate america and the autobiographical- desperately seek

[GreenYouth] Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf??

2008-06-23 Thread damodar prasad
-- Forwarded message -- From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 23, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf?? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear subid, If you are at difficulty to take such a 'big' decision, I think you better come back to

[GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf??

2008-06-23 Thread damodar prasad
Addendum: Parappangadi may give you options on whom to make appear: Jayamala, Jayabharathi, Jayabhaduri, Jayaprada- all of them hsi time favourites. Pls. do tell him this time, he may make appear: Jyotika, Assin, Nayanthara... or at least Meera Jasmin. On 6/23/08, damodar prasad <[EM

[GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf??

2008-06-23 Thread damodar prasad
issue for u. > u can try some jinnumma/ ustad also for better prediction. > > regards, > ahmed rafeek j > > On 6/23/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Addendum: >> >> Parappangadi may give you options on whom to make appear: >

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-06-23 Thread damodar prasad
f Islamic religious practitioners to explore the world- particulalry the world of science and its interrelation with Religion. But Rafeek, may I tell you that Zardar is a very interesting writer to engage. Particulalry his work, "Desperately Seeking Paradise" a class work. > regards &g

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-06-24 Thread damodar prasad
Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > prasad, > > > and u led me herequite interesting...thanks... > > > > > > http://www.ziauddinsardar.com/Articles.aspx > > > > > &

[GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf??

2008-06-24 Thread damodar prasad
But subid, I am yet to tell I my informed and adventorous opinion. Would you like listening? damodar On 6/24/08, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Subid, > It is heartening that you seek the opinion(s)of people in this forum, > for helping your seemingly private affair. This way, I c

[GreenYouth] When Lloyd was left stunned

2008-06-25 Thread damodar prasad
Hi, Let some 'purists' of cricket decribe to us the exeprience of listening to 1983 world cup cricket finals comentary. I've seen the game only later in espn cricketing memorables. Also tell us about the 175 of Kapil Dev against zimbawe. The following are excerpts from what he'd then said about

[GreenYouth] Ram guha on 83 world cup

2008-06-25 Thread damodar prasad
http://www.hinduonnet.com/mag/2003/06/22/stories/2003062200620300.htm *Memories of 1983 * RAMACHANDRA GUHA IN the history of Indian cricket, there are really only two competitors for the title of "greatest victory ever': the 1971 series win over England in England, and the defeat of the West Ind

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Controversy On 7th Std School Text Book in Kerala

2008-06-25 Thread damodar prasad
venugopal, I read through the text and I didn't anythng objectionable vis-a-vis religion and religious practices. Whatever the be the "text", I think the way in which the "text" is read in the class may have some influence on the minds of the young ( am reminded of an essay by Stanley Fish (Reade

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Controversy On 7th Std School Text Book in Kerala

2008-06-25 Thread damodar prasad
also add Context On 6/25/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Text, Subtext, Intertext > (Padam, Upapadam, Antharpadam) > A take by Nizar ahmed on this issue > > Wait for Malayalam political monthly to be launched soon.. > > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTEC

[GreenYouth] Habermas & Ziauddin Zardar

2008-06-26 Thread damodar prasad
Habermas and Ziauddin Zardar Whereas Habermas is a distinguished hardcore philosopher, Ziauddin Zardar, should I describe him, as a futurist? Habermas belongs to the tradition of European philosophy; Zardar belongs to the thinking emerging in the postcolonial context. Habermas belongs to t

[GreenYouth] What values do they exemplify? the past gens

2008-06-26 Thread damodar prasad
Hi, members of both fourth estate and green youth, pls. observe that I had put a small note on ziauddin zardar in both group on same day deliberately to see and how response take shape. In GY, interestingly members came to talk refreshingly about Zardar, where as in estate, there was complete sil

[GreenYouth] Re: should I go Gulf??

2008-06-26 Thread damodar prasad
A decision made is indecision outdone- ASIANET MUNSHI On 6/26/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi friends! Thanks all for your voice and support! I declare not > going. Love with human beings. Love with you. Will think of any other > program after completing this. http://www.

[GreenYouth] Fwd: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE from the hoot

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
Indeed, admirable.. and effective. prasad -- Forwarded message -- From: Chekkutty N.P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 29, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE from the hoot To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I case anyone is intereted in this experiment, from the hoot.org...npc Soc

[GreenYouth] a poem - why men die before women

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
*It is not as if men have no problems*: If you put a woman on a pedestal and try to protect her from the rat race, you are a male chauvinist. If you stay home and do the housework, you're pansy. If you work too hard, there is never time for her. If you don't work enough, you're good for no

[GreenYouth] Re: Habermas & Ziauddin Zardar

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
n too be not bound up with what they chain.The ethics > of ideal speech faces the paradox that in a torture cell, the right to speak > becomes an obligation. > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:14 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>

[GreenYouth] Re: Nizar Ahmed on ( the nonexistence of ) Public sphere in Keralam

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
Dileep, I feel very happy! On 6/29/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > With apologies to the author I am summarising/ making public some > arguments from an unpublished / incomplete seminar paper ( "Was there a > public sphere in Keralam?Were Malayalam media ever a public sphere?

[GreenYouth] Dr. Murali- personal memory

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
I activist, I belonged to a group critical of TK and his group. Now after almost three decades I realize that those differences were ephemeral. Now where is the great divide, I don't find any. N P Chekkutty On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

[GreenYouth] Dr. Murali- personal memory-Satchi mash

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
s an SFI activist, I belonged to a group critical of TK and his group. Now after almost three decades I realize that those differences were ephemeral. Now where is the great divide, I don't find any. N P Chekkutty On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:30 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[GreenYouth] Re: a poem - why men die before women

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
shion > > regards > > sreenivasan.v.p > > bangalore > > > --- On *Sun, 29/6/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [GreenYouth] a poem - why men die before women > To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[GreenYouth] Re: Poems

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
asma, I enjoyed both. Hve you published any collection. On 6/29/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Queen > > > Asma Siddiqui > > > Who is the Queen? > The grass is tall and the fields are green > The one who toils, from morn to night > In the fields, to make it bright > Or the

[GreenYouth] Re: Poems

2008-06-29 Thread damodar prasad
On 6/29/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks Damodar. > No, havent published it yet. *I dont know whether they could be > published in book form.* *Dileep, listening..?* Asma Siddiqui > > On Jun 29, 9:58 pm, "damodar prasad" <[

[GreenYouth] Re: Interview-Ashis nandy

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
re fine. Politically enagaging . But the interviewee is mimcking a thinker by name Ashish Nandy. Damodar Prasad On 6/30/08, C.K. Vishwanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From Tehelka Magazine, Vol 5, Issue 26, Dated July 05, 2008 > CURRENT AFFAIRS > interview &g

[GreenYouth] Re: a poem - why men die before women

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Friends, >> >> How to distnguish between both of your poems? >> However, Damodar Prasad's poem points to uncommon paradoxes. >> kalyani >> >> >> On 6/29/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[GreenYouth] Re: Interview-Ashis nandy

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
ully Ilaiah stole the > show with his dramatics against the *greatness* of Nandy's rhetoric. > have a curious question *where is India and who are the greats?* > *In mere curiosity* > A good question indeed. If you are adressing it to me. I fail to find an answer. Truly

[GreenYouth] Re: a poem - why men die before women

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
:-) Trivandrum is as "fine" as Muscat in these regard. damodar On 6/30/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :) > Planning to shift to Muscat > > > On 30/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Bobby, >> Mor

[GreenYouth] Re: Interview-Ashis nandy

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
ise issues concerned with Indian stream of postcolonial thought. On 6/30/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not you, in general, where does greatness lie? Whose knowledge? episteme? > where? who defines? > > On 30/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

[GreenYouth] Re: Interview-Ashis nandy

2008-06-30 Thread damodar prasad
On 7/1/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I dont how to define "greatness". As I read once agin read the mail I wrote > afer reading your response*, I am aware about the certain subtle but > definite issues regarding** the question you raise. > &g

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
On 7/1/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > Nice discussion. > > > There is an ethical or unethical side of things just as we say freedom > of expression or censorship. > Freedom of expression doesn't mean to be hurtful for a particular sect/ > group. > Islam preaches

[GreenYouth] himal

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
This edition Himal Mag is plentiful. http://www.himalmag.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubs

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
Dear Murali, I really wanted to taste a 'dose' of neolibelarism mixed with national interests. I wanted to read and understand what it has to say. So I downloaded the link. Now without any sarcasm and anything else in my mind, the heavy files pdf made my pc hang. I was reading another article wit

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
ntemporaniety. It however doesn not mean homogenous time. prasad being romantic in poems on green fields and queens may sound nice, but > responsibility is more important in 'actual' world. > > regards > ahmed rafeek > > > On 7/1/08, damodar prasad <[EMA

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
if I can upload it. Or if you are interested in any particular > article, I can rip it off from the main pdf , which hopefully will be much > smaller, and send it across. > > Best regards, > Murali. > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 1:50 PM, damodar pr

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :) > C'mon, age is in the mind :) (or so console oneself :) > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 7/1/08, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTE

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
omantic in poems on green fields and queens may sound nice, but >> responsibility is more important in 'actual' world. >> >> regards >> ahmed rafeek >> >> >> On 7/1/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> &

[GreenYouth] Re: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE Re: Who is a mallu

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
In institutions where you have different students from different nationalities studying togther you can always listen each other being called bongs, mallus etc. While studying at acj, chennai the racially 'opponent' groups were mallus and bongs, though they have *communism* to share about. I think

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
; > > > > > > > > > > > *Please read the corrected word yellow highlighted.* > > > > > *"free speech doesnt mean you be disrespective to YOUR elders" * > > > * > > > > > *the discussion seemed to me getting &#x

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
Let me reiterate: *To offend one who has not offended anyone is the secular principle of free speech*. damodar On 7/1/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Allow me to make a point: > > Its this: Rafeek after reading Arundathi Roy's interview, which states that

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
Murali hs sent to us PRAG*A*TI- their site address is http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/ all the blogs murali quotes like acorn, offstumped, retribution are lsited there. *NOW* *see this ( by just achange of word, where you are lead to *http://www.pragoti.org/ PRAG*O*TI Do visit and comment On

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
On 7/2/08, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It should not be unethical in publishing things which might be hurtful to > any > community in this world. > > Then the papers should contain only one column: for the weather. No, there > are enough touchies out there who would be offended

[GreenYouth] Re: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE Re: Who is a mallu

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
Now I understand. Tell us how it worked for you damodar On 7/2/08, Murali K Warier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Pls. utter MALPANS in malayalam. Not as easy as mallus. > > Yeah, 'punitive liberalism' always works! > > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread damodar prasad
everybody here agrees with a > partial list of the above) as long as these peoples' constitutional rights > are not violated. > > Only Communist states could penalize thought crimes. > &g

[GreenYouth] Re: Nizar Ahmed on ( the nonexistence of ) Public sphere in Keralam

2008-07-03 Thread damodar prasad
On 7/3/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>If news, ideas, viewpoints etc are made known to the readers, viewers or > listeners through a medium then it can not constitute a public sphere, even > when there is a public who gather around that medium however discretely in > space and time

[GreenYouth] Re: Nizar Ahmed on ( the nonexistence of ) Public sphere in Keralam

2008-07-03 Thread damodar prasad
classmates got up on the > pretext of asking a doubt and abused in Kannada. When Justice Bhattacharjea > claimed he did not understand a word of this classmate's doubt, he responded > that the class had not understood a word of what had been going on. > > *This post is not up for di

[GreenYouth] Re: Nizar Ahmed on ( the nonexistence of ) Public sphere in Keralam

2008-07-03 Thread damodar prasad
and feely :-) prasad On 7/4/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > *touche* > > On 04/07/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> :-) >> >> Bobby, >> >> I read your blog and was reading it again. >> >>

[GreenYouth] Re: Nizar Ahmed on ( the nonexistence of ) Public sphere in Keralam

2008-07-04 Thread damodar prasad
My first point, Bendict Anderson's idea of "Imagined Community" cannot be uncritically transposed to the contexts that enabled the emergence of a Unified market known as Inida for the simple reason the lingusitci divide was 'extreme' and challening (Only Read Ram Guha's popular work on Post-Indepen

[GreenYouth] Re: limits of secular radicalism?

2008-07-04 Thread damodar prasad
I've very severe differences about what you say. The text book issue and issue you mentioned are different. In terms of sexual rights, no much reformation ahs happened within the communities is something true. The same sort of issue with regard to religious communities may arise even on such oc

[GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution

2008-07-09 Thread damodar prasad
After reading the thread of this discussion, I found the points raised by Satchi mash was sunk by a parochialistic understading of religion in public space. There is a piont that secular public space simplifies (as opposite to amplification) the multi-religious, ethnic voices particularly in the

[GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution

2008-07-09 Thread damodar prasad
heidegger and > Nietzsche still inspires me like Murali. *Thinking cannot be replaced > with history of thinking.\* > *Shall I order for a repeat? single or twice* > and in a Heideggerian vein.. The most thought provoking thing of our times > is that we are still not thinking &

[GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution

2008-07-09 Thread damodar prasad
and may I add to it that History has no object. damodar On 7/10/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Writers like Banjamine, heidegger and Nietzsche still inspires me like >>> Murali. *Thinking cannot be replaced with history of thinking.\* >>> >> >> *Shall I order for a repeat

[GreenYouth] Re: sound pollution

2008-07-10 Thread damodar prasad
tion- that too in a town like Valancheri with such heavy traffic > 24 hrs? Why one needs to quote "*Allah so deaf that the mullah needs to > shout himself to death so that He may hear his supplication*" when > discussing noise pollution? > > > Don't tell me who is

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