Re: [h-cost] men's elizabethan doublet question

whether that actually makes a smoother closure or not. -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] pet hair

all you have to do to clean it is to rinse it in cold water, when all the hair comes off -- let it dry and it's ready to use again. Or, of course, you can think of the added layer of hairs as "additional insulat

[h-cost] 100-year-old Vietnamese bark dresses

ual" aspect of choosing a particular day to work on the project. http://english.vietnamnet.vn/lifestyle/2006/01/534345/ -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.or

Re: [h-cost] What's it called?

ent.org/cathen/10577c.htm -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h

[h-cost] Mystery Hands

here: http://paternosters.blogspot.com/2005/06/more-mystery-hands.html (besides just plain curiosity, that is!) -- OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [h-cost] Mystery Hands

hat they are" overriding realism: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/10134724/ -- OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

[h-cost] More OT: to Brits (WAS: Seriously off topic - need advice)

merica? What do we have that's difficult to find over there or especially "American"? ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL

[h-cost] Re: Gifts for Brits

ciety meeting on March 11th, which is on "Knitting before 1600." The last time I was in England -- or, indeed, anywhere in Europe -- was 1970, so this will be quite exciting. I've got about half a week in London and half a week out in the countryside planned. -- ____

Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan Style, Nostalgic Needle, Sharon Cohen

to some retailers who carry them would be much appreciated. -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com _

Re: [h-cost] Embroidery dating

think it's entirely too close to Valentine's Day ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California __

Re: [h-cost] books

abase. Since I hate having to look up and type ALL the information about a book every @#$%! time I cite it, this site is _wonderful_. -- ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://pater

Re: [h-cost] Goldwork

27;s a good bunch of folks and (need I say) very helpful. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org

RE: [h-cost] abuse of fabrics (aka care and washing) question

alf a dozen washings. :( -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http:/

Re: [h-cost] Quick lace question

r 1553 was bobbin lace." (She gives a footnote for this conclusion, but doesn't justify it further. She goes on to describe a "white silver bone lace" of 1560 and "6 white smocks edged with white needle lace" in 1558-9.) That help? -- __

Re: [h-cost] Fascinating: oldest evidence for needle binding

ng color patterns in your warp and weft... -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-cost

Re: [h-cost] Mouldy linen/dyed linen

at ran. There was *some* color loss from the black silk embroidery thread, which became a dark brownish black in places, but the item as a whole looked fine and was usable. Hope these things

Re: [h-cost] Movies, was: Knight's Tale

ing lady more or less gets to wear whatever she wants, even if that means it's wildly different from what everyone else is wearing. Often this means no corset, low necklines, clingy fabrics, modern hairstyles whatever _she_ thinks makes her look sexy. -- ______

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

Robin wrote: >I rather wish that Dan Brown had picked a saint who wasn't quite so >central to costume study. Say, Mary of Egypt. I can just see it now. ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis

Re: [h-cost] Hancock Fabrics

ce group of staff and a manager who's both friendly and competent. ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost] silver foil tape for Paillons?

the information and look for other places that have the same thing. This stuff is really easy to use -- you can cut it with ordinary scissors and make holes with an ordinary large sewing needle. Good luck! ____ 0 Chris Laning | <

Re: [h-cost] bezants

A, but I expect so. If you have problems ordering from them, let me know off-list and I'll arrange something. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-r

Re: [h-cost] help - velveteen colour running

7;t you know!) tend to be among the worst dyes for staying put where you want them. Hope this helps -- -- OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost] Judging costume contest? Help!

all as a pretty bar of soap or a fresh rose. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-c

[h-cost] Re: OT: LJ/ blogspot/Yahoo360 etc.

ust by sitting down and typing something; I don't have to create or configure entire Web pages to hold the information. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, Calif

[h-cost] Jeans (WAS: illustrator vs fashion historian)

can now be found at: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/superwides.htm Enjoy. -- ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - h

[h-cost] Frobisuit (WAS: Busy making holiday gifts?)

uess would be that Bristol = Bristol Renaissance Faire Frobi = Sir Martin Frobisher (if I'm remembering the name right) suit = outfit Good guess? O Christian Ashley, gentlewoman to Lady Stafford + Chris Laning <[EMAIL P

[h-cost] Copyright AGAIN (WAS: Re: looking for scan of Alcega Scholar robe)

ther list members, rather than to the list as a whole. In most e-mail programs it's fairly easy to control what address appears in the "To:" line. OChris Laning <[EM

Re: [h-cost] Found it! - Colored shirts in the 16th century?

that on an underdress either, but I'd be more willing to accept that it's an undergown with odd cuffs than a shirt that is open all the way to the waist :). 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTE

[h-cost] Prayer beads conference in Leiden March 27th

raphy and prayer beads, Dr. Ellen Raven, Leiden University Tibetan Buddhist prayer beads, Dr. Henk Blezer, Leiden University Korean shaman prayer beads, Prof. Boudewijn Walraven, Leiden University Japanese Buddhist prayer beads, Dr. Andreas Marks Orthodox Christian prayer beads, Dr. Karel Innemée,

Re: [h-cost] Re: Viking Women's Dress - New Discoveries

her.. http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/ 005394.html#more) ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-r

Re: [h-cost] Finding information

most don't). Hope this helps -- ask more questions anytime. 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com _

Re: [h-cost] Mari to the white courtesy phone

OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-c

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

and other people who don't have to worry about getting their hems dirty." ;) ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://pat

[h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing & Textiles 2* ( TMR 08.02.19 )

and Kalamazoo, papers are peer-reviewed by an editorial board and some are submitted without first having been identified through the conferences. Medieval Clothing and Textiles, vol. 2, ed. Robin Netherton and Gale R. Owen-Crocker (Woodbridge: Boydell Press, 2006), xiii.

Re: [h-cost] understanding paintings of Saints

l: it explains a _lot_ of cryptic scenes in medieval paintings, and does so with a sense of humor. OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.b

Re: [h-cost] Bad books:

ot reliable" is a good starting assumption when looking at Victorian sources, but that doesn't make them useless. OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

Re: [h-cost] DESIGNER PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS

turn to if the costumer flakes out. ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] book lust

some of the production files if they didn't save them, the increasing price of paper and so forth. It's not *just* the temptation of more profits...) ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://pat

Re: [h-cost] crochet 18th C

or machine-made lace Of course, this is an *extremely* over-simplified view, but I think there's some truth in it. 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [h-cost] crochet 18th C

ts present form around 1470: an amazing 100,000 people from all over Europe joined rosary confraternities in just seven years, from 1475 to 1481. OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - ht

Re: [h-cost] Tie on pockets, dating correction

p a bulky wallet, keys and checkbook in, and they don't show at all -- but I don't have any historical justification for it, just practicality.) 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTEC

[h-cost] Someone interesting studying classical clothing

Anyone seen this? http://tinyurl.com/55zagc OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogsp

Re: [h-cost] Ancient Egyptian beaded dress

rment, but that might be a good source to check. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com __

Re: [h-cost] Looking for Amsterdam museums & events

hen I can see more. ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-c

Re: [h-cost] Question regarding career path

shops, but you have to look for them and be firm about what you will and will not accept. Best of luck! You know this list will support you. 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com _

Re: [h-cost] Question regarding career path

ations lead you to accept pay that's too low and treatment that isn't good enough for how good YOU are. _That_ is the trap to avoid. You ARE good, but you have to believe it. 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [h-cost] general fitting questions .........How I'd try to fix it.....

heavy upper arms, and that simply doesn't fit everyone else correctly.) ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com _

Re: [h-cost] Setting color question

pink...). It does not "fix" the dye that is already attached to fibers: what it does is to remove any dye that is just hanging around in the cloth and _not_ firmly attached. Good luck: reds tend to be among the more difficult colors to keep where you want them ;)

Re: [h-cost] Tatting before 1600?

'em all together and you get what you heard . A lot of word-of- mouth "history" seems to travel this way. ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-r

Re: [h-cost] Celtic design in costume question.

ork" that you see in manuscripts, jewelry, et cetera. For some examples of Renaissance knotwork and a bit of discussion: http://www.bayrose.org/wkneedle/Articles/interlace.html OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[h-cost] Corsetry issues (was Looking for "bad" examples)

shoulders (loose gowns, for instance, although she can also wear a fitted gown with a few bones but not a full corset). In her case, the medical problem is nerve damage. Others? ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [h-cost] book is confirmed!!!

that means it will arrive faster? ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - h

Re: [h-cost] French titles - Mediaeval costume and textiles

berately ignoring, some of the significant research on the cognitive history of color concepts (or so says the scholar who gave it to me). ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.or

Re: [h-cost] Devil's Cloth

book that purports to be about the history of the concept "blue." OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davi

Re: [h-cost] Need costume calendar

like that again! ____ O Chris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] women's costume late 13thC

decry closely fitted clothing as too revealing and sinful!) ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com __

Re: [h-cost] Stockings query

outer legs. I can see I'm going to have to work on that) ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost] Looking for a tubular bag frame...

ther there's a bag with a frame you can re-use. ____ OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://patern

Re: [h-cost] Browned lace Edwardian? Collars

sunlight, moisture and the chlorophyll in the grass can provide a very gentle bleaching action. (I've never tried it, but so says the tradition...) ____ 0 Chris Laning | + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org -

[h-cost] The fit of 17th century stockings?

Insights from people more familiar with this era would be very helpful -- backup evidence even more so ;) ________ OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://pater

Re: [h-cost] Viking alternate history--14thC/15thC Vinland?

(in the absence of our friends the sheep) tends to be too slippery to spin well. O (Dame) Christian de Holacombe, OL - Shire of Windy Meads +Kingdom of the West - Chris Laning h

Re: [h-cost] h-cost] What's your dressmaker dummy wearing and sewing affliction

xpensive fabric... -- ____ O Chris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] The dreaded cutting of fabric

uot;If you're going to sin, sin boldly!" ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost]Colour names, was Need Help

have you tried her website to see if any of her work is posted? ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com __

Re: [h-cost] sequins and spangles

nts/bezants.htm -- ____ O Chris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume m

Re: [h-cost] Belle Armoire

wise embellished garments. >Also, how much do the projects depend on the use of rubber stamps, as >the publisher seems to focus a lot on those in their other magazines? They show up in maybe one project per issue, and not always that. Dyes, paints and poly clay are always big, though.

Re: Punches for cloth, was Re: [h-cost] re; Wizard

.. no fun. I've mentioned this page before (probably the last time Bjarne brought this up, in fact...) http://claning.home.igc.org/bezants/bezants.htm I've used metal leather-punching tools with pretty good results. ____ O

Re: [h-cost] Sarnen Robe? Chris Lanning - was Punches for cloth.

s: http://www.bayrose.org/wkneedle/Articles/make_bezants.html (tooting my own horn, herem, with apologies...) ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, Califor

Re: [h-cost] peau d'ange

ery hopeful and moving. ____ O Chris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://pate

Re: [h-cost] RE:"hippie" pants-suit vs. Corduroy pants-suit

__ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.ind

Re: [h-cost] 1960s-70s School Dress Codes

im that if pants were allowed, it would be too difficult to define which pants were OK and which were too tight, too low-slung, or too baggy and "gang-like." It will be interesting to see what happens :) OChris

Re: [h-cost] was thread on spools in Eliz England?

p://www.bayrose.org/wkneedle/filum/Filum_28_workbox.pdf ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com a.k.a. _

[h-cost] Re: Theater vs. Historic

T planting plenty of clues that you're not _really_ serious. I didn't see "Shakespeare in Love," but those who watched it closely tell me that a Stratford-on-Avon souvenir mug appeared fairly prominently, early in the film. Nice touch. __

Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery

t reality accurately. I'll e-mail you off list with more info ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - h

Re: [h-cost] Re: batiste weight linen

ather than linen, IIRC. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com _

[h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content)

Egyptophile speaking here.) ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h

Re: [h-cost] Looking for picture link

while elements of it may actually have existed, the Queen is shown here as if she was costumed for a masque. The "eyes and ears" mantle is not the sort of thing that would be worn on any other occasion, I think. :) ________ O

Re: [h-cost] Blackwork in Lady in Green

ng, curvy line thing, which was more likely worked in stem stitch or other "line" stitches. ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.or

Re: [h-cost] middle ages: braies for women?

hese seems intended as a realistic picture of what women actually wore. (Heather, did I summarize this correctly?) ____ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternost

Re: [h-cost] Re: Elizabethan Dressing Jackets

ed jackets from about the same time period. If anyone's in the Yahoo [HistoricKnit] group, my photos of three of the knitted jackets from the MFA are in a photo album called "jackets" there. (That's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HistoricKnit/ ) ___

Re: [h-cost] OT: Standard American Diet

e reasons than one.. ________ 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list

[h-cost] Re:[ h-cost] Costume photos

ce on it. I eventually convinced the manager that it was okay, but I was quite amused. :) ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, Ca

[h-cost] Paternoster beads: medieval dress accessory

x27;d be interested in anyone's comments (on or off list) once you've read it. ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http:

[h-cost] OT: ISO scan of a Morris tapestry

featured in books. TIA ________ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-

Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting

re at least a couple more. The one I made into a LOLsaints icon is also from REALonline, picture #000907 Direct link: http://tarvos.imareal.oeaw.ac.at/server/images/7002773.JPG Yet another altar wing panel, in tempera on wood by Konrad von Friesach of Kärnten, 1450-1460. Have fun! __

Re: [h-cost] help finding a painting

en the pregnant bellies are what made the picture really memorable... I have to admit, it's the only one I've seen where it looks like the babies are giving each other "high-fives"! ____ OChris Laning <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [h-cost] s-t-i-f-f-e-n-i-n-g agent ;)

anted to know, but perhaps it may be helpful ;) OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost] stabilizer/facing material [was:Re: s-t-i-f-f-en agent]

completely. If you don't mind using modern techniques, these can save a lot of headaches.) ________ OChris Laning - Davis, California + h

Re: [h-cost] Online dictionary of colors with color swatches

that this sort of color guide would also be useful for someone trying to describe the shade that quilters refer to as "that Thirties green," which is quite distinctive once you see it, but which tends not to show up in modern color guides. _______

Re: [h-cost] spray adhesives

marker for dark fabric is a Stabilo white watercolor pencil. ________ OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___

Re: [h-cost] spray adhesives

while you are stitching it down. OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspo

Re: [h-cost] questions

e guild!) are seldom more than about 90" to 120" around at the bottom. ____ OChris Laning - Davis, California + http:/

Re: [h-cost] copyright law thing...

Fran, it sounds like you are saying that legally there is no such thing as "fair use." If that's not the case, could you explain what constitutes "fair use"? ________ OChris Laning - Davis, California + h

Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos

neck ;) OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Masonic aprons .. a bit OT

finding them a good home? OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] Inventory of King Henry VIII

upposed to consist of essays and commentary on the raw material provided by the inventory records reproduced in the first volume. Very good news if so. ____ OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.

[h-cost] Words for clothes (WAS: Re: I found my way back!)

ne-word term for "the clothes I wear to SCA events, as opposed to the clothes I wear on other days." OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com __

Re: [h-cost] Fingerloop braiding

it isn't really "fingerloop braiding" in the technical sense. http://fingerloop.org has lots of material on what's now being called "fingerloop braiding." OChris Lanin

Re: [h-cost] how museums can help costumers

but the museum has no way to know who does and who doesn't know what they're talking about. OChris Laning - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com

Re: [h-cost] 17th c. "blue jeans"

about _how_ cotton was used before I'd conclude that this is identical to modern denim. Cotton thread strong enough to use for weaving is a different thing than cotton batting used for stuffing (for which I think we have better pre-1800s documentation). ___

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