[h-cost] Italian cotehardie/GFD question

2005-07-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Robin, I know that Italian garb isn't your regular focus of interest, but I have a question about 2 paintings . http://www.wga.hu/art/g/giottino/pieta.jpg http://www.wga.hu/art/g/giovanni/milano/birth.jpg The first by Giottino was painted in 1365; the second by Giovanni da Milano was also

Spanish influenced Italian (was Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dress trim question

2005-07-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/Images/colourpics/8486.jpg ? And do OOh! I've never seen that painting before! Do you have more information about it? http://sayaespanola.glittersweet.com/main.htm Yet another painting question. While I was cruising this web site, I found another

Re: Spanish influenced Italian (was Re: [h-cost] elizabethan dresstrim question

2005-07-17 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Elizabeth Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michaela said That's what it says;) (I put image information in the alt tags of the thumbnails, so moving the cursor too quickly will not show it up;) ) and I replies Ah -- that's an IE only trick, I believe. Mozilla and Netscape (to my

Re: [h-cost] lab coats

2005-07-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've seen in cartoons, and the like, pictures of an old style Laboratory coat (white, high collar, has a flap front that closes with buttons on the shoulder - tends to be slightly fitted). Sounds like you're thinking about what I think of as a chef's jacket

Re: [h-cost] lab coats

2005-07-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Cynthia Virtue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Susan B. Farmer wrote: Sounds like you're thinking about what I think of as a chef's jacket Indra's sending things through in funny order again Yeah I noticed that It's not quite a chef's jacket. Those tend to have two rows of buttons

Re: [h-cost] lab coats

2005-07-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Cynthia Virtue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mad science mouse: http://www.research.usf.edu/cm/pics/mad_scientist.JPG Oh, *that* jacket! I don't think I've ever seen one in the flesh. I'd think that the chef's jacket would be a good place to start for making one though. And would be dandy

Re: acetateRe: [h-cost] Bengaline (was Good News)

2005-07-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the fact that it also wrinkles like crazy. Acetate, though, being chemically modified cellulose, Thanks for the One More Thread. I didn't know that about acetate! Yeah I recently read about this as I was doing a search on the history of man made

[h-cost] Medieval Clothing and Textiles

2005-07-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Is there an online TOC to this journal (with page numbers)? My library doesn't have it (yet?), but I can ILL things . [The anglo-saxon book they have, but it's out on loan to a Faculty member for a *year*] Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of

Re: [h-cost] Blood stain in linen

2005-08-04 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting M Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED]: for Blood stains on Linen... put it in your mouth, and chew it out. I kid you not. Mari / Bridgette Linen worker for more than 20 years now. I know that this seems counter-intuitive because many dye recipies call for salt to fix the dye -- but soak

Re: [h-cost] Re: Fitting Issues (and linen prices)

2005-08-27 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 03:39 PM 8/26/2005, you wrote: Belatedly, I want to thank everyone that responded to these messages. The future MIL has made her choice and really liked the Florentine -(http://www.siue.edu/COSTUMES/PLATE23AX.HTML) - so we are going with that,

Re: [h-cost] Storm update

2005-08-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Hugs and prayers. Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] belted houppelandes

2005-09-09 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, *somebody* wrote: Good picture! Is that trim sewn down to act as a belt loop, do you think, or just hanging over? (and is she carrying a baby, or playing a bagpipe?!) The trim is almost certainly the collar point hanging

Re: [h-cost] Embroidered Coif from VA/ stitch question

2005-09-24 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greetings~ I am looking to make my daughter a coif embroidered like ones worn in the 15th and 16th century in England. I am planning to incorporate blackwork surface embroidery as well as gold embellishment. I have run across a particular embroidery stitch

Re: [h-cost] What are These?

2005-09-26 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Cynthia Virtue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: McClure, Kate wrote: The seventh image down on this page http://www.wga.hu/index1.html -- that's the frame location, not the image you want us to look at. Can you figure out the URL of the actual image? You can right-click and select this

Re: [h-cost] Photo cross-stitch software

2005-10-13 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Penny Ladnier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know the name of some software that will take a photo and grid it for cross-stitch? I know there are people who will do this if you mail them the photo. But I wonder if they are doing this in some computer software or by hand. There's a

Re: [h-cost] Re: Rick Rack

2005-10-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Could someone explain what ric-rac is? It doesn't seem to be what I understand. I have several cards of ric-rac braid I got in a sale, and would use it to sew on to a garment for decoration. It was a very popular trim in the mid 50's if I remember

Re: [h-cost] a holiday idea

2005-10-24 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Oh, yeah. Put me down, too. Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Re: New UK re-enactors recycling list

2005-10-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kahlara [EMAIL PROTECTED]: :-(wish there was something in the states like this! Took a peek just out of curiosity and saw something that sounded like it might be rather useful. If you go to groups.yahoo.com and enter a search string of SCA recycle 4 local groups will come up.

[h-cost] Moda a Firenze 1540-1580

2005-10-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Im about to send this book back to the UGA library (ya gotta love InterLibrary Loan!). Not only does it have an enormous collection of paintings that I've never seen before, it also has a picture of, well, a sweater. Figure cption reads Women's camicola or knitted jacket. First quarter of

Bronzino (was Re: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: Moda a Firenze 1540-1580

2005-10-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been thinking of adding: Bronzino by Maurice Brock 360 pages Flammarion (November 16, 2002) ISBN: 208010877 to my collection of portrait painters. Has anyone seen this book? Beth Don't know a thing about it, but it sounds like something

RE: Bronzino (was Re: [h-cost] knit jacket was Re: Moda a Firenze1540-1580

2005-10-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The lower sleeves are deep maroon in most of the repros I have seen. It is funny that so many color reproductions vary in quality from place to place. Anybody ever see the real portrait up close and personal? And BTW, the lower sleeves (which tie into

[h-cost] rectangular construction tunic

2005-11-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
It was on one of my garb lists that we were discussing rectanguolar construction techniques for making a gown for a large busted woman. There were extra gores down the sides (at least from the bottom of the armsye to the waist) in addition to the skirt gores to allow for the extra flesh. Does

RE: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?

2005-11-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Donna-- Do you have a photo link for the painting? (Bronzino's A Daughter of Matteo Sofferoni) I don't think I am familiar with it. I've got black velvet and gold silk to make one out of.

Re: [h-cost] getting oil stains out of fabric

2005-12-15 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: Does anyone have a record of these threads or a good tip that they can email me off list since I had an encounter with an exploding bottle of salad dressing (wearing new clothes, naturally), and I need to deal with a large blob of olive oil right in the middle

RE: [h-cost] Houppelande with tie fastenings

2005-12-15 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: FYI, there is a Italian (I think) style (a bit earlier then the time of the Tres Riche Hours) that has what looks like circles attached to/acting as the cuffs of the gothic fitted dress's sleeves. There is a picture in _Parades et Parures_ by Odile Blanc. (it's

Re: [h-cost] light table

2005-12-17 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I was thinking about wishing a light table for christmas and birthday. I have birthday in january and ususally wishes bigger things, and then combine the gifts this way. I was looking at a light table in a shop, and i wondered if any of you

Re: [h-cost] Calling Susan Farmer of Knoxville Tn..

2005-12-23 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone know Susan? Her secret Sanat gift is waiting for her at the post office. I am unable to contact her via phone or email. I'm here! I haven't seen a card from the Post Office, but will check it out in the morning. Thanks for letting me know.

Re: [h-cost] A place to put your Secret Santa pictures

2005-12-26 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have created two photo albums. One is a place to put a picture of your secret santa gift...the other is a place to put a picture and some information about yourself. I will be working on adding my stuff later today...gotta go out and try to buy a

Re: [h-cost] Re: Holiday/Secret Santa Gifts

2005-12-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
IL got two dress forms -- a nifty one for my sewing table from SaraGrace (thanks!), and a Uniquely You for *me* from eBay. and books -- embroidery books, mostly. :-) Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology

Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I found this painting in an Italian book (funny, that given the language the citation I can't read below the painting is written in. *G*) And fell in love with this dress, but I can't find barely anything about the painter, the sitter or the location of the

Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Kathy Page wrote: I found this painting in an Italian book (funny, that given the language the citation I can't read below the painting is written in. *G*) And fell in love with this dress, but I can't find barely anything about

Re: [h-cost] dress form / sewing caddy

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the tiny url: *http://tinyurl.com/dxjmd* and the regular one in case that doesn't work: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999gid=8892003uid=4238963members=1 http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999gid=8892003uid=4238963members=1

RE: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another type of ceremonial costume is Vincenzo Gonzaga's attire for his 1587 coronation as Duke of Mantua. A great deal of research was necessary to recreate a costume which is described at length in contemporary chronicles and depicted in paintings

Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Susan wrote: Ooh, cool! No, I haven't. What can you tell me about the book? Storia del costume in Italia by Rosita Levi Pisetzky. Volume 3 or 4, IIRC. Milano : Istituto editoriale italiano, 1964-1969 I can't wait to see if you can track down a color

Re: [h-cost] Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Cynthia Virtue [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Susan B. Farmer wrote: I have to say that I've given up trying to feel out paintings. There are more than a few that I've seen that individually feel like later works (and I can't call any to mind at the moment, I'm sure that they'll come to me -- ah

Re: [h-cost] Re: Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Someone on another list just presented a really compelling comparison: http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/diary/images/bronzino.jpg http://www.asn-ibk.ac.at/bildung/faecher/geschichte/maike/treffpunkt/buch2-96.htm It supports the opinion that

Re: [h-cost] Re: Have you seen this painting?

2005-12-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snippage* Got 'em! I knew that I had pictures of those sleeves. :-) Both of these paintings are in the new book Moda a Firenze on the influence of Eleanor of Toledo. The book covers Florentine Style from 1540-1580. It's *wonderful* My copy of the

Color copies (was Re: [h-cost] Other paintings)

2005-12-31 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Saragrace said: If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on this site that I've not seen before: One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) : http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm There's a color copy of this one at

Re: [h-cost] Other paintings on this site, was Man's Doublet closure

2005-12-31 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on this site that I've not seen before: One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) : http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm And if this is truely a self portrait of Leonardowhoo hoo!

[h-cost] (no subject)

2006-01-07 Thread Susan B. Farmer
I got a dressmaker's dummy for Christmas (WooHoo!) It's a Uniquely You off of eBay. :-) And she's just my size. :-) I'm wondering about how compressible that they are. Will she squish down indefinately with a corset? Say, should I have one that fits, and then lace her into it to *that* place

Re: [h-cost] This year's calendar selection

2006-01-08 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've hit the 50% off sales on 2006 calendars at both Borders and a mall calendar store. What a disappointing choice this year! I saw nothing medieval aside from one Angels calendar and a Fra Angelico art calendar, neither of which is very useful for

microscopy of fibers (was Re: [h-cost] linen testing / cross section

2006-01-11 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Dawn Luckham [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LOL! Truth be told, I don't often manage it myself. :P I try to cut very short, fragmented pieces of fiber (almost like dicing an onion). Every once in a while one or two pieces of fiber end up in the right position on the microscope slide to be

Re: [h-cost] OT: Nursing and menses

2006-01-11 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Marc Carlson wrote: I could have sworn that back in anthropology 101 they taught us that extended breastfeeding was used to make a woman less likely to get pregnant, not that it stopped menstruation. It does both.

Re: [h-cost] Re: margo pattern question

2006-01-13 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I also had a problem with the collar, made it over several times and finally gave up in frustration and went on to another project. It's been sitting in my UFO pile for a couple years now. I just thought it was me, since I had never made anything like it

RE: [h-cost] pet hair

2006-01-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ooops... Well, it all depends on the breed of cat's hair. I used to spin collie hair and wool together. Why not Angora cat hair? It's my understanding that the structure of cat hair makes it difficult if not impossible to spin. Seems like the cuticle of the

Re: [h-cost] pet hair

2006-01-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Susan Data-Samtak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seems like the cuticle of the feline fiber (sorry, couldn't resist the alliteration) is barbed But aren't the barbs the reason that wool can be spun? It gives texture so the spinning stays in. or it could be that the cuticle *isn't* barbed. :-S

Re: [h-cost] fashion dolls again.

2006-01-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just looked at your new dolls. Ok, I missed it -- How do I get to see the pictures of Bjarne's dolls? Susan Hi, I remember we disgussed this topic way back. I finally found a danish importer of the famous Tonner Dolls. I ordered 3 of these.

Re: [h-cost] Need details

2006-01-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a photo of a great picture of this, the bodice is *not* divided up the front. It is much like other bodices that probably have a stomacher front with a divided skirt. http://glittersweet.com/DSCN9267.JPG OK, so I uploaded it already

Re: [h-cost] fashion dolls again.

2006-01-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Lloyd Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I goggoled Tonner Dolls! smacks self in forehead *DUH* I google for everything else! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

Re: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

2006-01-25 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gah! I think that's the one that that came to mind for me as well, she is literally covered in pearls, right? I did a quick search on Lady Burghley and couldn't find the painting. I'll have to do a little more digging. She however is an example of nobility,

Re: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

2006-01-25 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know that there's a portrait of Lady Burghley in a very pregnant state wearing a kirtle and surcoat. I have a picture of Mildred Coke, Lady Burghley, 1562-3, oil on panel. She is wearing a surcoat, what look to be black/red worked sleeves and partlet

RE: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

2006-01-25 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi -- The Eleonora painting was auctioned off at Sotheby's this past year. That's right! Thanks. Jerusha (busily making a note ...) - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology

RE: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

2006-01-25 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The painting of Lady Burley can be found in Roy Strong's The English Icon-- however it is in BW. *chuckle* We have 30 books by Roy Strong at my university library. The English Icon is *not* one of them! Jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [h-cost] Re: Gestational Stays

2006-01-26 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Ailith Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snippage Anyway, one of the curators from the Tate said that she was working gathering images of pregnant ladies for (I believe) a book. I'm pretty sure that it wasn't an exhibition. Has anyone heard or seen anything about this? No, I

Re: [h-cost] stumpwork bag

2006-01-27 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Yes, everything you like, i am at your disposal, and cheap two, promise. Wont receive money cash, but silk threads. oh yes! Just make your choise, and ill do it, and in turn, requires Eterna Stranded Silk Floss in return, ill deside the

Re: [h-cost] Re: lego troubles and $100 purses

2006-01-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting celtkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What a great group this is... So glad to have found you guys. (Quick intro: I'm Kat who has been looking at 15th/16th c. costume for a couple years now and needs to get down to business and actually sew something) LOL -- I *so* resemble that remark! I

Re: [h-cost] RE: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80

2006-01-28 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Bjarne asked: Do you consider my bag for 100 dollars cheap or expensive? Globalisations is catching up on us. God or bad? Bjarne Based on my income (Im a student), they're expensive. If I had a Real Job (tm), I'd consider the price to be a *real* bargain! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL

Re: [h-cost] 16th c. costume experts?

2006-01-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you were looking for information on 16th c. costume in written sources, whose research/publications would you seek, other than Janet Arnold's? And: Does anyone know if Jane Ashelford is still active, and if so, where she can be located? :-D

Re: [h-cost] 16th c. costume experts?

2006-01-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a wonderful book by the Cunningtons which I believe is out of print. Published, I think in the 50's. I'd like to find living, currently active, working scholars. There seems to be a gap here

Re: [h-cost] Re: Gifts for Brits

2006-01-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snippage* ObCostume: the actual spur to planning this trip is the Mediaeval Dress and Textiles Society meeting on March 11th, which is on Knitting before 1600. The last time I was in England -- or, indeed, anywhere in Europe -- was 1970, so this will

[h-cost] Hoppelande question

2006-01-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Question about houppelandes ... I've seen bands of fur at the bottom (i.e., hem) of the women's cotehardie, at the bottom of sideless surcoats, and at the bottom of men's *short* houppelandes -- but what about a woman's long houppelande? I inherited one from the estate of a dear friend -- she

Re: [h-cost] Elizabethan Style, Nostalgic Needle, Sharon Cohen

2006-01-29 Thread Susan B. Farmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Saw the topic of Elizabethan English style costume and wanted to let you know Sharon Cohen specializes in reviving historical hand embroidery techniques - especially those used in Elizabethan times. She also has charts for costume miniatures that

Re: [h-cost] 16th c. costume experts?

2006-01-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 19:46 29/01/2006, you wrote: Quoting Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a wonderful book by the Cunningtons which I believe is out of print. Published, I think in the 50's. I'd like to find

Re: [h-cost] Hoppelande question

2006-01-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 00:15 30/01/2006, you wrote: Question about houppelandes ... I've seen bands of fur at the bottom (i.e., hem) of the women's cotehardie, at the bottom of sideless surcoats, and at the bottom of men's *short* houppelandes -- but what about a woman's

Re: [h-cost] Re:18c

2006-01-30 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd recommend against the plastic route. At least against the plastic boning you can get at JoAnn's -- I'm pretty curvy and have had two types of trouble with the plastic stuff: (1) in the heat of wearing it (and possibly lacing tight enough so my chest stays put

wiki (was Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories

2006-01-31 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I want defined is Wiki. There's even a wiki entry for wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology

Re: [h-cost] extant wardrobe inventories

2006-01-31 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I want defined is Wiki. speculation -- Wiki-wiki is (I think) Hawaiian for quickly!) Wikipedia is an online editable Encyclopedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page There's also an SCA specific wikipedia out of Lochac (but you don't have to

Re: [h-cost] 17th Century Glove Pictures?

2006-02-07 Thread Susan B. Farmer
did you try going to http://images.vam.ac.uk and searching for gloves? That's the VA image site Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/

Re: [h-cost] 17th Century Glove Pictures?

2006-02-07 Thread Susan B. Farmer
OK. thanks to the evil woman who pointed out the MFA in Boston site, I've been drooling there for *far* too long. Count Richelieu's gloves intrigue me. Are there examples of knitted gloves *before* 1600? Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology

Re: [h-cost] 17th Century Glove Pictures?

2006-02-08 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Susan B. Farmer wrote: OK. thanks to the evil woman who pointed out the MFA in Boston site, I've been drooling there for *far* too long. Count Richelieu's gloves intrigue me. Are there examples of knitted gloves *before* 1600? There's a pair

Re: [h-cost] Re: 17th Century Glove Pictures?

2006-02-08 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Marc, Gosh thanks a lot. You have made my days a head now. Lady Herringtons gloves has bullion rosesBULLION ROSES.. Oh, wow! Is there a date for those? Looks like it *might* be late 16th C. Susan BTW, Marc, your link

Re: [h-cost] italian childs renaissance dress

2006-02-14 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Found this, and thoaght some of you might not have seen it yeat. http://www.mfa.org/collections/search_art.asp?coll_keywords=dresssubmit.x=3submit.y=10coll_start=81 No, I hadn't! Thanks, Bjarne! Short-sleeves and embroidery too! If it was

RE: [h-cost] italian childs renaissance dress

2006-02-14 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you. This looks to be worn under a dress as a combination forepart and plastron. Ooh, now that's something that I hadn't considered! Jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology

Re: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-15 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks Deredere, Now i know, we call it Akkeleje in danish. Cool. The genus name is Aquilegia. It's in the buttercup family. I've toyed with trying to transform one of the english columbines Elizabethan patterns into the American columbine.

Re: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-15 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, speaking as Sue the flower junkie, and not Susan the flower junkie g, no, not really. I've done collar and cuffs in an interlacing linear pattern of columbines (from a mid-16th century boy's shirt in the VA), and will some day do columbine slips

RE: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-15 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is the week for not finding things. I know I have seen a 1500s blackwork pattern of columbines. AAAHHH! I'm pretty sure that there's one on the dragonbear site, if not the Elizabethan Blackwork Archives (or both .) RRGGGHH I *know*

Re: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't have the accession number for the shirt, sorry, but you might be able to find pictures of it online (people's websites and blogs, if nothing else). Or maybe the VA website? I'll have to look and see I'll have to root through my blackwork

[h-cost] columbine (was Re: Smock or Partlet (was Tudor roses

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This isn't a pattern, but this is a picture of a shirt discussed in someone elses post, (I don't remember if anyone already posted the picture, sorry if this is redundant) :-) http://www.kipar.demon.co.uk/elizabethan/boyshirt1540s.jpg You can clearly see the

RE: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet (columbines)

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I forgot about this shirt with the columbines. The blackwork pattern that I am thinking of is from one of the German model books and is similar to the pattern on the shirt collar. On the Arizona site for Digital Archives for weaving, there's this

RE: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm really interested in wanting a blackwork pattern of columbines, also. Actually, I was recently gifted a blackwork book of patterns and there is this one pattern that looks like a columbine but has no spurs - they called it a pansy, but definitely does not

Re: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, speaking as Sue the flower junkie, and not Susan the flower junkie g, no, not really. I've done collar and cuffs in an interlacing linear pattern of columbines (from a mid-16th century boy's shirt in the VA), and A photo of the shirt has been

Re: [h-cost] Smock or Partlet was Tudor roses

2006-02-16 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Ann Catelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]: --- Susan B. Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've toyed with trying to transform one of the english columbines Elizabethan patterns into the American columbine. Ours is not as fat and the spurs are *much* longer. http://epee.goldsword.com/sfarmer

[h-cost] SCA_Fabric-n-Notions

2006-02-17 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Please forgive my cross-post (but do feel free to forward as you see fit) Hi folks. I don't know if any of you outside Meridies know about the old SCA_Fabric-Finders list (or how many of you need Yet Another Yahoo List ...). It's been taken over by spammers, so we decided to start a new list --

Re: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
And while we're talking Italian Tippets . :-) I've got another picture for you, Robin. I just had to get it scanned -- and now seemed like a good time to do it! http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg these women are spectators, so I don't know how

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I think that the color is gorgeous! I dyed it with

Re: [h-cost] Bliaut silk natural dyed colour question

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Today I dyed silk for my 12th century bliaut. And it got a shokking salmon pink. http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/Bliautsilk.jpg I wonder if this would be right for that period. I dyed it with meekrap. I don't know the correct

RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Paintings/milano_ExpulsionJoachim150.jpg (Susan) these women are spectators, so I don't know how much the Special Garb rule applies here, but . The Italian GFD frequently has this sort of

Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-18 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hadn't thought of gores but I think you may be on to something here. This would solve some peoples problems with not having enough fabric of one color. :) It would be a hoot to do -- and you could carry that picture around with you and say -- see! here it

Re: [h-cost] Anne of cleves and seeing things in context Re: Flemish RE: tippets ...

2006-02-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Of course! Think about Anne of Cleves dress. If all you knew was English Tudor, you'd swear that was a Fantasy/Allegorical gown. Oh boy... I have discussed this one on my livejournal as I recently read the most appalling disection of the sybolism in the

Re: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Chiara Francesca [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.imagesonline.bl.uk/britishlibrary-store/Components/34/3463_2.jpg This on has long been my favorite. I have been sketching and searching and sketching these dresses for years hoping to find the right event to make one for. Sigh, and the

RE: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure I understand the tree. Is the woman standing the matriarch of the family and the couple sitting at the bottom of the drawing brother and sister or are they the parents and the woman standing the featured descendent? The tree? *giggle* I've

RE: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess they could be buttons but the top of the red seems to be wider then the other panels and it almost looks like there are dots on the other side of the red at the bust. I was thinking that it was similar in treatment to the birth of the virgin dress with

RE: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-19 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I guess they could be buttons but the top of the red seems to be wider then the other panels and it almost looks like there are dots on the other side of the red at the bust. I was thinking that it was similar in treatment to the birth of the virgin dress with

RE: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For balance? Mainly I don't want a post reveler getting dizzy and hurling more colour onto it. :P snicker. probably a good thought. And thinking of multi- colours, this reminded me of someone I know who made a man's Landsknecht in various Hawaiian print

RE: Flemish (was RE: [h-cost] tippets ...

2006-02-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually the owner of Calontir trim and I was reminded that it was someone else who made it for him. Drix. Hmmm. Could have been Joel, I guess. Jerusha - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary

RE: [h-cost]Redwork,

2006-02-21 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A better picture. http://www.kimiko1.com/research-16th/FrenchHood/1560/BessHardwick.html I sat down once and copied the pattern on graph paper but I can't seem to find it. I think it was charted on those temporarily removed blackwork archives that were

Re: [h-cost] silk/'natural protein'

2006-02-22 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting Katy Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did a google search, it may be soybean protein fiber http://www.swicofil.com/soybeanproteinfiber.html Way cool. The protein version of rayon! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary

[h-cost] funky new Simplicity pattern

2006-02-22 Thread Susan B. Farmer
I know we were talking about that new Simplicity pattern. What I don't remember is if anybody had pointed this piece of information out -- it's from the book itself (as well as the email that I got today from Simplicity) Remarkably delicate care and attention is given to the tiny pleating

Re: [h-cost] funky new Simplicity pattern

2006-02-22 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Our inspiration comes from the original gown currently in a private collection and displayed in the Victorian Bridal Museum in San Jacinto, California. Yeah, I noticed on the front photo that it said Wrights Victorian Bridal Museum so I did a seatch. There

Re: [h-cost] funky new Simplicity pattern

2006-02-23 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a message dated 2/22/2006 9:34:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least Simplicity's designer had something to work with besides Thin Air! * C'mon Susannobody works from thin air. Don't you watch Project

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