Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-05-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:35:18 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >No, you just didn't think it through. The Devil is in the details. >... >The entire node is a chunk of code. There is no node type for the >hardware itself. >... Well, you're the one with the FAP; I can only argue from wha

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:34:17 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>Actually, I think it never held up. As far as I know a node has >>always been hardware and a PU has always bee a program > >In such boxen there was no node type or PU type independent of the >software. >... I think you m

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:35:32 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >The test over whether a parameter/operand really relates to the PU entity >rather than the adjacent link station or to the boundary function or to some >function with VTAM is whether it affects a byte or a bit in the

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:42:18 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >... Thus making the description of the node depend upon >the type of the PU it contains, as is implied by "... it is the PU that has >a type designation and that 'type i node' is an alias for 'PU_Ti node'" >obviousl

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:35:32 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Incidentally what is this web interface with which you are having so much >trouble? >... http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Pat O'Keefe --

Re: ARRRRRGH! SYSOMVS Component Trace - Trace entry mapping

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:56:39 -0400, Porowski, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Anyone know if a SHARE requirement for better trace info might get >anywhere? Or maybe enhanced IPCS formatting of the trace entries? It's >probably been tried before. >... This would have to be done product by

Problem with IBM-Main's web interface

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
If you use the web interface to IBM-Main and you logon without setting a cookie and your cookie expires before you send your posting and you respond to the logon prompt all your input will be lost. The posting will contain nothing but the original quoted text (if you chose to quote the original)

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:09:30 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: This is my 4th attempt to reply to this posting. Please forgive me if one or more of the previous copies show up. >... >>I think the text you found logically, if not chronologically, >>precedes the introduction of the type 2.1

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:37:11 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I'm copying what came into my reader. Did you hit the wrong button >somewhere. I can't see anything new. >... I use the web interface to IBM-Main. This has recently been restructured, and has the "Quote Original M

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainframe

2006-04-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:09:30 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/24/2006 > at 02:26 AM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>I think the text you found logically, if not chronologically, >>precedes the introduction of the type 2.1 node

Re: TOD Clock the same as the BIOS clock in PCs?

2006-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:48:02 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We can't tell you. This is dependent on the system that they are using. >... It also depends on how the time is set on the system at hand. If the time is manually set then all bets are off. The most accurate c

Re: Need Help defining an AS400 with an IP address to the mainfra me

2006-04-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:07:42 -0500, Desi de la Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >This is how one would look like in the VTAM side. > >AS400SWN VBUILD TYPE=SWNET,X >... >AS400PU PUADDR=12,X > ... >

LOADxx IEASYM parms

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
What happens if the IEASYM parm in LOADxx specifies an used sufix; that is, specifies (00,XY) but IEASYMXY does not exist? Is there just an error message? A WTOR? Something worse? What if IEASYMXY exists but is empty or contains just comments? I've just asked for a new IEASYMxx member, and a

Re: PK09700 for High Level Assembler

2006-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:25:34 +0200, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What is 128M virtual memory in these days? >... >I always use REGION=0M for my assembly. >... While I agree that 128M is not significant these days, I wouldn't recommend REGION=0 (as if anybody care

Re: Binder REP Cards (Was: What's the linkage editor really wants?)

2006-04-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 22:33:50 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Sometime in the past there was an option to use rep cards as input to >the linkage editor (now called Binder). The reports on here seem to >indicate that these rep cards are no longer valid . The rep cards as >you spoke

Re: IBM-MAIN and "punches" out of order (Was: Anquish of JCL)

2006-04-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Sorry about my previous premature posting. The "Quote" and "Send" buttons on the new web interface are too close together for my poor aim. On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:10:46 -0500, Joel C. Ewing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >>> I have noticed that the replies are often out of order on this >>> li

Re: Old computers was (fwd) Re: Space in MB?

2006-04-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:16:11 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>The 650 also had a 10 digit word in biquinary as its basic unit. > >FSVO. The 650 used 7 bits to represent a digit, ... In particular, 1-out-of-2 plus 1-out-of-five. At least that's what it was in the CPU (registers, etc

Re: SHARE Baltimore

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 21:48:19 +0100, Bielskie, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >My apologizes if I offended you. >... Not me. That was a proxy offense. I took offense on behalf of those too busy to do it themselves. :-) Pat O'Keefe

Re: SHARE Baltimore

2006-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:36:04 -0400, Bielskie, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish they would open this stuff earlier. Most companies only have so much money for education and when it's gone... >... Jees. The project managers and their slaves (all with real lives and real jobs out

Re: Kudos to IBM's promotion

2006-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:22:49 -0600, Timothy Sipples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There's really a simple and straightforward solution to this problem, one >which most of you on IBM-MAIN can execute: hire college interns. (IBM >certainly is.) That's what most directly impacts campus perception

Re: To Darren

2006-04-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 08:56:39 -0600, Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Darren, >... >Can you spell out the criteria here? How is one supposed >to keep the thread clear if I cannot quote the originating >thoughts? What are the parameters? At least give us some >guidelines. >... Actually, he

Re: PDS unload

2006-04-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:34:03 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...The best tool I know is Xmit >Manager, which is free (thank you Neal!), ... Last I knew XMIT Manager did not handle XMITed PDSEs well. It can display the directory but cannot expand anything but the first few members. Great

Re: z/OS 1.7 and "Large Sequential Data Set" Offering

2006-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:58:00 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Talk about a digression. Phil is talking about the WRONG bit altogether! >The VSE bit that wasn't mapped was x'20' in DS1FLAG1 -- not x'04' in >DS4VTOCI. Sheesh! >... Well, ok, but it was a BIT. He got that part

Re: No More JES2/JES3 Migration Guides!!!

2006-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:15:14 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... and TCP/IP over NJE! ... Ooh! Neat trick! > >The old migration books provided, not just a list of changes and new >features, but guidelines and specific details on tolerating/exploiting >them. They were an inval

TCP/IP archeology (was Re: Barbaras (mini-)rant

2006-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
d ... or even that the rewrite was designed by 2 people over one weekend. That was a BIG redesign. (Although that might explain some of the problems in 2.5.) Patrick O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive ac

Re: Barbaras (mini-)rant

2006-03-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:28:45 +1000, Shane Ginnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Quite a few of us were "forked" by the merge of the IP stacks in 2.5 ... >... And some of us expressed that feeling a bit more publicly than was called for, perhaps. But the rewrite was needed, and eventually IBM t

Re: Barbaras (mini-)rant

2006-03-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >One weekend, two of them took the original RFC (?term), and re-wrote it from scratch. >The specs included UNIX functions and services to do things, so they used USS to do everything they could, so they didn't have re-in

Re: VTAM and MS Host Integrated Server IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender)

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:39:36 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There really is no good place for VTAM questions any more. ... I should correct that. IBM runs a NewsGroup server with VTAM and APPN newsgroups, with z/CS developers(and Cisco developers) moni

Re: VTAM and MS Host Integrated Server IP-DLC (Enterprise Extender)

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:54:27 -0600, Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is this the correct place to ask about VTAM issues? We're trying to move a >Microsoft Host Integration Server from 802.2 connection to IP-DLC (AKA >Enterprise Extender). ... There really is no good place for VTAM questions a

Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:23:12 -0500, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >> IBM has been recommending BLKSIZE=32760 for load libraries for at least >> a decade. > > >Absolutely true for system software load libraries. ... Yes, but While IBM has been preaching 32760 for loadlibs and

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:12:55 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>I think we're just going to disagree on this one. It sounds to me >>that you expect infalable SMP users. > >Then you're not reading what I wrote. Mistakes happen, but ignoring >advice is not an excuse for making mistakes.

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:29:04 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>it's to everyone's benefit that the experienced SMP users lend them >>a helping hand. > >At the outset. But if they ignore what the experienced SMP users told >them then they should clean up their own mess. >... My origin

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:19:53 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>Last, if the group takes responsibility for software maintenance then >>must do so (politically anyway) independently from any group >>member. > >And if the group takes responsibility for software maintenance then >the gro

Re: Finding "embedded" short blocks

2006-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:03:15 -0600, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >regular production FTP job gives a corrupted ASCII file about 40% of the >time. > >This is going to be one of those "fun" problems to document :-( >... Can you run a packet trace during every transfer until you'v

Re: Finding "embedded" short blocks

2006-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 17:15:53 -0600, Blaicher, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >My ignorance will now show. How do you get short blocks into an IPCS >file? >... I'm relying on a seriously deficient memory here. Take this with a block of salt. (A grain is far too small.) Some people compl

Re: Finding "embedded" short blocks

2006-02-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:23:17 -0600, Blaicher, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have to ask, WHY? > >Unless you really meant RECFM=FBS. > >No access method I know of cares about short blocks in the middle of the >file. They just deal with it. ... I'm probably way out of date, but I thought IP

Re: MVCY

2006-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:25:20 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >[1] A couple of times I forgot or overlooked some details. But I can >usually rely on some of the other AK's to remind me. >... Ok. I give up. You probably weren't refering to Alaska, "Above the Knee", or a type of a

Re: SYST

2006-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:14:01 -0600, Craddock, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >It means exactly what you quoted; a single step started task that is >exempt from timing (i.e. the same as if you had coded TIME=1440) and it >is automatically placed in SYSSTC regardless of the WLM classification

Re: TCP/IP over Cisco router CIP

2006-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Chris, It probably looks like I have a seriously broken ALU if I say "4 years ago" on list and "you were about 3 years ahead of me" in the off-list email. Faulty memory is probabably more to blame, but I actually had 2 introductions to this issue. The first was when I was first playing with OSPF

Re: TCP/IP over Cisco router CIP

2006-02-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:45:29 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There was an issue with VIPAs and OMPROUTE OSPF dynamic routing. Ideally it >should be possible to advertise a VIPA using a "host", single (the VIPA >itself) address rather than a subnet range. When I examined setting

Re: TN3270 Question

2006-02-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 09:54:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >Yes, I believe that we are in violent agreement that the RFC should be >changed to allow more reasonable behavior. >... Well, the status of RFC2355 is "Draft Standard" (having obsoleted "proposed Standard" RFC1647) so it's

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:38:38 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >>access but automation requires line-by-line access. > >What gives you that idea? >... Ok. So Chris maybe shouldn't have said "requires". Yes, there is full- screen automation. Every screen-scraper is doing full-screen au

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:44:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >ITYM that for line mode it talks to VTAM as LU1. For 3270 mode it >talks to VTAM as LU2. In neither case does it talk to VTAM as a 3767. >In fact, VTAM cannot directly deal with a 3767; you need NTO in the >middle. >... Wel

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:03:49 -0700, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I guess I'm being finicky, but if the solicitor can present TSO >or CICS as application choices, why can't it likewise present >UNIX as a third alternative? >... What you are calling "the solicitor" is part of the

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:47:36 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Probably it's conventional to specify one port in order to use TELNET for >access to non-USS applications such as TSO and CICS and specify another port >in order to use TELNET for access to USS. Naturally the "device ty

Re: Access to Mainframes via Putty?

2006-01-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 14:23:20 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The application is TSO, but I tried it , and found that it has a line >mode type display... all in one line until the 80 chars are full ... >etc. so putty did not work for me... >... It sounds like you accessed the

Re: TN3270 Question

2006-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:02:56 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >How does an open VTAM ACB not provide access to the SSCP-LU session? >... I guess it depends on what you call "access". Obviously VTAM macro invocation result in a set of RUs flowing on the SSCP-LU session (init-other, Te

Re: TN3270 Question

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:16:40 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Once you do find the SysRq key, you can enter "logoff" without the quotation >marks* and VTAM, performing its SSCP role, will terminate the session >between the application and the TELNET logical unit (LU) managed by

Re: What starts Netview?

2006-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Chris, I don't see that your posting made it to IBM-Main (where the original thread was) so John, Sam, and Craig may not have seen your kudos. I'll double-post this response to get it back there. Yes, I know poor, benighted Bruce is beyond hope - trying to get rid of NetView and all (Are my preju

Re: What starts Netview?

2006-01-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:11:57 -0500, Craig Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >NetView uses MVS RESMGR macro to dynamically define BNJMTERM >memory-termination module rather than adding it to IEAVTRML. >... . Therefore the ZAP to IEAVTRML is no longer >needed. >... A couple of side issues. Tha

Re: Question about TRSMAIN aks "TERSE"

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 19:47:59 +0100, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >IMHO it's hard to prove law violation. For sure nobody would bother >himself about it. >It is publicly available. AFAIR you don't even need to logon to the >page. It's IBM page, not hacker/warez page. You probably clicked Agr

Tn3270 SSL/TLS and ACF2

2006-01-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
We're just starting to look into secure Tn3270 and are fighting our way through the doc. Most IBM doc is RACF oriented ad we're an ACF2 shop. And we're in mainfraim communication support group, not the security group, so we don't understand all we're reading. We're probably going to test using a

Re: Myopia ...

2006-01-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:22:11 +0800, Ron and Jenny Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED] CABLE.COM> wrote: >Of course, this all assumes that customers have workplace access to the >internet - not always true in some Asian Countries. ... Not always true in some US companies. We have no mainframe access to th

Re: 3270 screen size limit

2005-12-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:52:47 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >No, that letter goes all the way back to the 3271, 3272 and 3275, long >before the 3274. I vaguely recall that A was LU0, including BSC, B was >SNA and C was local non-SNA, but ICBW. >... I don't know about the letters ass

Re: SV: Creating dynamic 3270 screen size definitions for increased productivity

2005-12-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:04:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >Don't forget commands, e.g., 7E. >... Actually, I think he CAN forget the commands ... usless he's actually building the complete 3270 datastream: command, WCC, and data. From earlier postings it appears that he's just bu

Re: SV: Creating dynamic 3270 screen size definitions for increased productivity

2005-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:36:06 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >> Do i = 0 To 255 >> Say i': hex' D2x(i)':' '>'D2c(i)'<' >> End >> >> Exit 0 > >Look at the 3270 Display Stream manual. Add code to skip or translate >out any code point used a a display order for the 3270. In

Re: SMPE Question

2005-12-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:24:51 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >> Do I have to fix the missing and/or hold items >... >>and when I do it just leads to more things to resolve. > >Do you mean that the PTF that fixes AQ64238 is in PE status? That's >the only thing that I see that could po

Re: New LPAR and VTAM

2005-12-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:11:28 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... there are three great benefits from running APPN, no PATH > statements, no PATH statements, no PATH statements ... That might be better put "dynamic pathing, dynamic pathing, dynamic pathing". You not only don't hav

Re: Modify command - lower case command text possible or not?

2005-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:31:09 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Yes, indeed, the 2250 was a large and expensive device which - as I vaguely >recall - was designed for use in research establishments which - to be >provocative - probably lived off federal grants, establishments where

Re: public available IBM mvs machines ?

2005-12-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:12:18 +0100, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >P.S. My apologies if I have sent a blank post into the system. My first >attempt to set this one up "disappeared"! >... Chris, Don't apologize. That was the first posting of yours that I absorbed in one reading. :-

Re: APAR resolving "ls -l" and search permission problem [OA01524]

2005-12-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:31:08 -0700, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >> Finally, IBM accepted an APAR for this problem: >> OA01524: Z/OS UNIX V1.4 IS NOT CORRECTLY HANDLING PERMISSION BITS >> >> >So, can we expect closure before end-of-service of 1.4? > Sure.

Re: Symbols in batch JCL (was: START fails no diagnostics!)

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:30:53 -0700, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >This technique is far less effective if the STC JCL contains system >symbols. There's another good argument here for supporting symbols >in batch JCL. >... For that kind of test it's a whole lot faster to stick so

Re: START fails no diagnostics!

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:01:57 -0700, Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >One thing I usually do with STCs that fail, is to run the STC JCL as a batch >job. ... Another technique that has worked for me is to override MSGCLASS. S whatever,MSGCLASS=x where x is your hold class. That will sav

Re: ftp.emea.ibm.com replaces testcase?

2005-12-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005 10:54:18 -0700, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >A suitably specialized FTP server would recognize the naming convention >violation and, rather than quietly failing, reject the transfer before >it really begins... > >Is EMEA's server similarly smart, or does it le

Re: 3270 Session Manager survey

2005-12-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 03:08:05 -0600, Michael W. Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There’s a report on the web (http://www.north-ridge.com/network.php) that >is a little old but might be worth reviewing. ... North Ridge Software's product (Network Director, I think something-or- other Director)

Re: ftp.emea.ibm.com replaces testcase?

2005-12-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:07:04 -0500, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone else heard of this change to the normal IBM FTP server for >support we got this feedback from two different PMR's just recently. >... Yup. They've already had 2 dumps and a trace from me to that site. Well

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:35:10 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... JCL Conversion and Interpretation are no longer handled in one >place, much less that Execution is a separate third phase. ... >... I would expect them to reflect the >EXECUTION-time environment and no othe

Re: OT- IBM slows the speed of light

2005-11-08 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:53:43 -0600, Steve Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I guess this makes the term "light year" for distance meaningless, >doesn't it? Or if not meaningless, at least, relative...h >... Nope. Still meaningful. A light year has always been based on the spead of lig

Re: Module description

2005-11-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:06:40 -0500, Walt Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I'm not sure I understand how you would expect an auditor to be able to >verify that a vendor hadn't shipped a trojan horse. You really want all >the auditors visiting all the vendors and personally inspecting all th

Re: Module description

2005-11-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:08:26 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >>... >>I suppose an auditor might be trained to ask "Does the vendor say >>these modules have to be in an authorized library?" and pass the >>question to the vendor only if the answer is "Yes". > >That's reasonable if the auditor

Re: Module description

2005-11-01 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:54:03 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about a vendor's programs know >that they have to ask the vendor, not the user? Shouldn't your only >response have to be "Ask IBM"? >... I suppose an auditor might be

Re: vtam appl. to tso

2005-10-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 14:27:43 +0330, Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Is there a way to go from a VTAM application to TSO environment,excecute a REXX or CLIST and then come back to the previous session? >... If the particular VTAM application just happened to be NetView and you were running Ne

Re: Ron Hawkins please note

2005-10-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
.143 >Giving up on 203.83.114.238. >... Steve, What's the mystery? It says right there: Ron doesn't like you. Ya gotta expect that in this business. :-) Patrick O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archi

Re: Leased Line IBMLink Going Away?

2005-10-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 22:18:58 -0400, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>.. >>Does this mean what I fear it means? Am I going to lose the ability to >>logon to IBMLink via a leased line SNA connection? Are my company's other >>leased line applications going to stop working as well? >> >Proba

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:16:15 -0500, tony babonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nope, not exactly. Count me in. In the late 70s we ran an election >tabulation program using CB on a 25?? reader. The card had punches in >almost every position. Years before the hanging chads. >... >>Congrats.. you a

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:04:06 -0400, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What instruction did the old Babylonians use ? > > >RWS (Read Word and Scramble) >... Programs were written on clay tablets using CCB (cuneiform coded decimal). Later, the Sumarians used ECCDIC. Pat O'Keefe --

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:52:42 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Are you thinking of the 1443 ? >I don't recall of ever seeing a 2514 tape drive.. 2401 etc were tape >drives. >... As several other have mentioned, yes, I was thinking of the 1443. But I was also (mis)remembering the 1

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:34:20 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I do not consider it schizophrenic in the same sense as the /25 since >the /25 was either a /20 or a /30 while the /30 was ALWAYS a 360 but >when you ran the emulator program it would act in that partition by

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:40:11 -0400, Doug Fuerst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nope, a 20, but it has been a lonong time. I know the I/O was >different, but used 2415's that could go on other 360's. I doubt the >MFCM could move, but it used what looked to be a 1403-3 type printer. There was at l

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:28:07 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >There was also the 360/25 which was Schizophrenic - Depending on how >you booted it, it thought it was a /20 or a /30. >... Actually, the /30 was also schizophrenic. It had both 360 and 1401 emulation built

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:01:38 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >... >[1] The 360/20 and 360/40 were not really part of the line. >... I agree about the Mod 20 - a totally different beast - but Mod 40? My only involvement with them was as an operator so I'm sure I missed a lot of the details

Re: did anyone know about NN-NN of one sysplex definition?

2005-10-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 08:42:47 -0500, Wayne luo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...These are two NNs exist in in same one sysplex,I tried to logon to >another NN's tso or any other vtam application from one NN but >failed,sensecode is 08060023,These two NNs communitcate each other with >XCF,We can find

Re: Plan Now (Budget) for 2006 zSeries/z9 Summer Interns at Your Company/Gov't

2005-10-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:08:44 -0500, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... (the "long term" seems no longer to exist). >... A self-fulfilling prophecy, but one most major institutions seem to be ignoring. Pat O'Keefe -- Fo

Re: msgIEE178I and automation

2005-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:17:39 +0200, Barbara Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I guess the message appeared for 10 seconds, after which the console got >'refreshed' with the normal display. So unless someone looked at that >console in those ten seconds and went there to read, they really wouldn

Re: MXI 4.3

2005-09-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 05:07:55 -0400, Rob Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I tried adding the "MAX=1" for good measure - but that did not make >any difference. >... None? When I try it with MAX the numbers still don't agree, but they are much closer. Close enough that I expect a miscoun

Re: Access to the SHARE requirements database

2005-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:54:22 -0500, John Laubenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... > Each project handled the merge of the GUIDE requirements in their own >fashion. ... In case anyone still cares, this does not contradict what Bob Shannon said. The Guide Requirements were all moved into the

Re: ftp "connection closed by remote host"

2005-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:33:04 +0100, Jim McAlpine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD >added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. >... You might want to temporarily add a "degnug all" to your FTPDATA. That will gener

VOLUME in SMP/E DDDEFs

2005-08-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
As part of an ESP I'm giving feedback on the product's SMP process. I complained that UNIT and VOLUME weren't needed on DDDEFs if the datasets were cataloged (and that their sample allocation job cataloged them). I was told that IBM's product packaging rules require UNIT and VOLUME on all DDDEFs.

Re: auto reIPL

2005-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
>>did anyone notice that the z9-109 announcement includes a function to >programatically reIPL the system (ala Windows/Intel RESTART). ... >... > >UNIX has had the function for years, since quick re-boots have been the priority, rather than fewer. >... I haven't worked with VM since the late '70s

Re: INNOVATION DATA PROCESSING ANNOUNCEMENTS - August 15, 2005

2005-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:39:41 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >I've opened a Tech Q&A incident on IBMLink asking for more detailed >information. So far I've had the APAR text quoted to me ... twice. > >... I finally got a be

Re: INNOVATION DATA PROCESSING ANNOUNCEMENTS - August 15, 2005

2005-08-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:27:17 -0400, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... I gather that it only occurs if an application calls "resolver" >which is a TCP/IP service. Resolver calls USS which fails if the >calling application does not have the OMVS segment. ... Obviously, your >applications

Re: INNOVATION DATA PROCESSING ANNOUNCEMENTS - August 15, 2005

2005-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:43:32 -0400, Bruce Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Good news! IBM notified us today that they found the source of the UCB >overlay that affected FDR in, of all places, TCP/IP. > >TCP/IP APAR PK10591 was opened yesterday, a PTF for it is expected >soon. It appears to occu

Re: USSTAB Question

2005-08-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:46:47 -0400, Dean Montevago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I thought I read that the current sessions would continue to use the original table and new sessions would point to new table. The tables would co-exist until the stack is recycled. >... Yes ... if you specify a new ta

Re: USSTAB Question

2005-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
... >Take a look at MODIFY TABLE command in: Look at MODIFY TABLE command in:z/OS >Communications Server - SNA OperationMODIFY >procname,TABLE,OPTION=LOAD,NEWTAB=new_table_name,OLDTAB=old_table_ ... That's the VTAM way, but since the original poster mentioned IP I assume the question was about the

Re: USSTAB Question

2005-08-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:28:52 -0400, Dean Montevago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >thanks >... >>Yes, just do an OBEYFILE command. >... It's not quite that simple. If there are any sessions using the table it won't be won't be reloaded. You then have to create a new table, change your parms to poin

Re: Message EPW0401I?

2005-08-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:36:56 -0400, Craig Kittendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Search of IBMLink on the message id and the probeid came up empty. What?? You find FFST documentation less than perfectly clear? There used to be a published list of FFST probes but I can't find it any more. FFST

Re: VTAM Internal trace

2005-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 22:23:41 -0700, mary george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ya it would help >Basically I have ABND trace entry ,frm which control would go to a recovery routine. >After which I have the following MSG entry. >I want to know if recovery routine has initiated this message! >... I sa

Re: VTAM Internal trace

2005-08-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 04:36:27 -0700, mary george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >ISSR978DB522 > >MODID RACKW >... Looks like module ISTRACKW ssued the message, but I don't know if that helps much. Does the message text help any? Pat O'Keefe -

Re: CMC & TCP/IP (was: OSA Cards)

2005-08-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >Is a CMC still needed (or supported) in a TCP/IP configuration? > >Also, where can I look this up. >... I've had arguments with some of the TCP/IP developers over this. Some of them feel CMC is meaningful in a TCP/IP en

Re: Wild Branch Diagnosis (Was: Five Digit Device Numbers)

2005-08-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:56:21 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >z9 109 remembers the last successful branch instruction address and the >operating system displays that address in dumps. ... > >My reaction? It's about time! Thank you, IBM! > I'm surprised it has taken IBM this

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