Re: Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?
In !!AAAYAJ/6KggGInlFs/2GBOkJFIDCgAAAEOM/[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/05/2007 at 04:20 PM, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And it's really not an error - it's a warning. It's not even a warning. Note the I. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 MTTR
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/03/2007 at 05:21 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Possibly, but when you've been working with the terminology for 26 years, would you automatically stop and think that it has been appropriated for something else? PKB. Unformatted System Services has been around longer than that. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 MTTR
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/03/2007 at 02:48 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why does IBM always do that? Perhaps for the same reason that you do? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
Good point Mark. Here is the expanded command: Data Set List Utility Command === Data Set Name. : SYS1.GIM.SGIMLMD0 Command before expansion: LISTC ENT Command after expansion: === LISTC ENT 'SYS1.GIM.SGIMLMD0' As you can see the parens are missing as well as the ALL at the end. New information to me is that the dataset substitution is still working. We have no ISPF exits. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command Works fine here. Do you have any exists (I'm not if one applies here without looking at the FM). What about typing SHOW from the DSLIST command line to see what is getting expanded. Mark This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
Verified 5.8 version is the only one in use. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 4:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:34:53 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Works fine here. Do you have any exits (I'm not if one applies here without looking at the FM). What about typing SHOW from the DSLIST command line to see what is getting expanded. (fixed exits typo above) One other thing... could you be picking up an old ISRUDLP panel? Use ISRDDN to verify you have the 1.8 (ISPF 5.8) version. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
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Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:39:03 -0500, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Just playing on my z/OS 1.8 tech lpar, and noticed that commands issued on the dataset line in option 3.4, and then repeated with the '=' get truncated after 9 characters and fails. For example a LISTC ENT(/) ALL, repeated (after the failure) shows on the display as LISTC ENT. Anyone else see this? Just tried it on a 1.8 system here and absolutely no problems. You might want to turn on ISPF tracing and then look in the resulting log to see if anything erroneous is being picked up. Seb. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
Try LISTC ENT(/) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
Please bear in mind this isn't an official answer. Check with your friendly local IBM representative. Withdrawn from marketing means that IBM no longer accepts new orders for the product. This is pretty straightforward for most hardware: IBM just won't ship you a particular (new) box. Software gets interesting. Yes, IBM can quote and will charge applicable increases for your currently licensed products, even products withdrawn from marketing. You can move software from one box to another (e.g. hardware model upgrades, relocations of data centers). If your company is acquired by another the acquiring company can continue to run the software, grow the software capacity, move to their boxes (e.g. consolidation), and so on. (There's a very important definition of an enterprise in software licensing that covers such events.) I suppose it's theoretically possible for one company that wants to obtain a withdrawn product to buy another company that already has it. :-) And you can even change the licensing terms, such as moving from full capacity to subcapacity (VWLC) licensing, and keep your withdrawn products. (Most such products will probably pick up the new licensing terms.) Theoretically IBM is free to change the price of withdrawn products...but IBM honors contracts. And -- but please check me on this, too -- I believe it is even possible as a new customer to buy at least some old software that's withdrawn from marketing. I seem to recall that certain OTC software product licenses allow buying the new version and then running any prior version. If the product still exists and has a direct, lineal successor then I think this works. I think it also works if the whole of the old software product got merged into a new one. And it extends to past platforms when the license is cross-platform. For example, if you want to buy Personal Communications for DOS, which hasn't been marketed for a long time and is unsupported, you can buy Host Access Client Package (HACP) which includes Personal Communications for Windows: the lineage is intact. And if all that's not enough, you can try for a special bid and see if IBM can quote a price. They'll probably find the closest modern match and price on that. Getting media is another question. IBM may not be able to supply it, so you'll have to find it from another source. As long as you have a valid license this is apparently OK. Most IBM software doesn't have license keys, so no obstacle there. All that said, it's not usually a good idea to buy withdrawn products. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DITTO/Tape Copy Redux
I've been scouring archives for 3480 3490, tape copying, and all that good stuff. To bring it up one more time... 1. Thousands of 3480 tapes to go into future VTS 2. Some multi-file, many multi-volume 3. Cataloged, so name has to reflect new locale 4. No, we don't have vendor tools other than DITTO 5. Estimate by outside party of $250K and boss ain't buying that Suggestions...besides large doses of no-doz and moving into datacenter... As always...TIA. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JAVA In Batch
Hi All. Once again I turn to the group for help. We are OS390 V2R10. Can we compile and run JAVA in a batch program? Would anyone have a sample of how to do this or point me to a manual? Thanks in advance. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA In Batch
You could use BPXBATCH JCL. //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH javac full_path_to_java_source_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH java full_path_to_java_class_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA In Batch Hi All. Once again I turn to the group for help. We are OS390 V2R10. Can we compile and run JAVA in a batch program? Would anyone have a sample of how to do this or point me to a manual? Thanks in advance. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA In Batch
Once again thanks Jon and all. I have no knowledge of JAVA and Programming is inquiring about it. Does the source go into a PDS? Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Veilleux, Jon L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JAVA In Batch You could use BPXBATCH JCL. //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH javac full_path_to_java_source_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH java full_path_to_java_class_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA In Batch Hi All. Once again I turn to the group for help. We are OS390 V2R10. Can we compile and run JAVA in a batch program? Would anyone have a sample of how to do this or point me to a manual? Thanks in advance. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA In Batch
In a recent note, Veilleux, Jon L said: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:50:32 -0500 //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH javac full_path_to_java_source_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* But be aware that only the most recent release(s) of z/OS will honor those STDOUT and STDERR DD statements. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:08:03 -0600, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been scouring archives for 3480 3490, tape copying, and all that good stuff. To bring it up one more time... 1. Thousands of 3480 tapes to go into future VTS 2. Some multi-file, many multi-volume 3. Cataloged, so name has to reflect new locale 4. No, we don't have vendor tools other than DITTO 5. Estimate by outside party of $250K and boss ain't buying that Suggestions...besides large doses of no-doz and moving into datacenter... As always...TIA. I'll do it for $249,500. g Daniel - *NO* tape management system, like CA's TMS or RMM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA In Batch
Gil is correct. You may have to use DD's like this: //STDOUT DD PATH='/tmp/test1.out',PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT) //STDERR DD PATH='/tmp/test2.out',PATHOPTS=(OWRONLY,OCREAT) Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JAVA In Batch In a recent note, Veilleux, Jon L said: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:50:32 -0500 //JESSTEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,REGION=8M, // PARM='SH javac full_path_to_java_source_file ' //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* But be aware that only the most recent release(s) of z/OS will honor those STDOUT and STDERR DD statements. -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA In Batch
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Pelletier Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA In Batch Hi All. Once again I turn to the group for help. We are OS390 V2R10. Can we compile and run JAVA in a batch program? Would anyone have a sample of how to do this or point me to a manual? Thanks in advance. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier I don't know about OS/390 2.10, but the JZOS originally from Dovetail and now acquired by IBM (JZOS, not Dovetail) runs Java in batch wonderfully! Java stuff exists only in UNIX files. You cannot store the source or the .class/.jar files in a PDS. Well, you can store the source in a PDS. But you cannot compile from the PDS, you'll need to copy it to an UNIX file. And Java naming conventions are not very easy to squeeze into an 8 character, upper case only, PDS member name. I wouldn't even try. As an offshoot from this, if it were my choice, then I'd likely keep my Java development stuff on a UNIX file server. This UNIX file server would NFS export the appropriate subdirectories. The z/OS system would NFS import them. All Java development would occur on PC desktops running Linux or Windows shudder, which can access those NFS exported directories. I'd use either Netbeans or Eclipse on the desktop for Java development (I use Netbeans, myself). This would allow the programmers easy access to edit, compile, and test Java. Promotion would be from the NFS mounted subdirectories onto production UNIX files residing on the z/OS system. Again, this would be my first take on how to do it. Unfortunately, the interest in Java on z/OS here is approaching zero from beneath. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Backup issues.
Since I received no reply to my first note I thought I'd word it differently. The 15 to 1 ratio can be explained by normal tape I/O. It seems the bottle neck is at the Brocade directors. We dump the data into an edge and it hits the front end at 60 MBPS the network then compresses it and it goes across compressed. We are not using the tape drives on the other end as optimally as they should be so we are getting a shoe shine effect. Not good on this large tape. Is anybody else doing tape backups at a remote location using Brocade(McData) equipment? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JES2 Exit 5 on z/OS 1.7
Has anyone experienced problems assembling JES2 Exit 5 on 1.7? I am trying to assemble the supplied sample, but I get the following error, apparently in the JES2 $MODULE macro: ** ASMA057E Undefined operation code - $MODU/IEAVM173 ** ASMA435I Record 2521 in SYS1.SHASMAC($MODULE) on volume: Z17RS2 0001BC 5920+COMMLTE DSCL(MLTELEN) WPL message extract parms @313P079 02-$COMW ** ASMA068S Length error - L(MLTELEN) ** ASMA435I Record 240 in SYS1.SHASMAC($COMWORK) on volume: Z17RS2 16016+ POP PRINT 01-$MODU Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Does anyone have an answer to the question what does IBM mean by 'withdrawn from marketing'? It generally means you can no longer order the product. That said, everything is negotiable. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
Thanks, Tim. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products Please bear in mind this isn't an official answer. Check with your friendly local IBM representative. Withdrawn from marketing means that IBM no longer accepts new orders for the product. This is pretty straightforward for most hardware: IBM just won't ship you a particular (new) box. Software gets interesting. Yes, IBM can quote and will charge applicable increases for your currently licensed products, even products withdrawn from marketing. You can move -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)
Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?) Utilization and support of FTP are generally waning outside IBM. Really? Why? If not FTP, then what is the desired method for downloading products, PTFs, and HOLDDATA directly to a z/OS system from an Internet server? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SAP using DB2 and Daylight Savings Time
This has been an ongoing discussion in the company even before the change in dates for DST. From what I am understanding, we are having problems getting the Unix/AIX Servers to change time automatically and be in synch with the z/OS and DB2 hosts. I am looking for SAP users who also use DB2. How do you accomplish your time change? We are currently running LOCAL = UTC + Offset. I know on the mainframe side we are going to change the time at the Sysplex Timers. Done it for may years now at different accounts. None that have used SAP however. Where I am ignorant is the AIX/Unix Servers. How do you accomplish this time change? I am going to cross post this to the DB2-L list as well. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell This message may contain confidential information. The information contained in this message and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or other use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete all copies of this message -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
The current LE COBOL Migration manual lists a fair amount of analysis and work to determine and or provide for upward compatibility. I believe them. When a customer has hundreds of not recently touched business-critical programs, and no one who knows how they work, and no budget for conversion, and typical corporate tolerance for risk (i.e., near zero) it is a HUGE obstacle, and there is no reasoning it away, I fear. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Klein Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products I think that 97% compatible is GROSSLY underestimated. Although this may not have always been true, but today, there are ALMOST no cases where the BEHAVIOR is different. I suppose that if you are A) still using ISAM or B) TCAM Or C) other very old software, you might have a problem HOWEVER as long as you are running under z/OS, then you really, REALLY, do not want the OS/VS COBOL run-time (either concatenated before or after LE). If your OS/VS COBOL programs were link-edited with NORES, then you don't need ANY run-time library for them (and what you do have won't make any difference). Can you actually give some reason TODAY not to use LE as the run-time for all non-NORES OS/VS COBOL programs - or are you just saying that your remember or heard that there USED to be a problem? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 Exit 5 on z/OS 1.7
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:19:30 -0600, Joe Mscisz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone experienced problems assembling JES2 Exit 5 on 1.7? I am trying to assemble the supplied sample, but I get the following error, apparently in the JES2 $MODULE macro: ** ASMA057E Undefined operation code - $MODU/IEAVM173 ** ASMA435I Record 2521 in SYS1.SHASMAC($MODULE) on volume: Z17RS2 0001BC 5920+COMMLTE DSCL(MLTELEN) WPL message extract parms @313P079 02-$COMW ** ASMA068S Length error - L(MLTELEN) ** ASMA435I Record 240 in SYS1.SHASMAC($COMWORK) on volume: Z17RS2 16016+ POP PRINT 01-$MODU Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated!!! Which exit 5 sample? I just did both of them on z/OS 1.8 and didn't have a problem. Are you doing this from a 1.7 system or a driving system at a lower level (IOW, are you using the correct HLASM version)? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)
Not only can you order a product in CBPDO format for internet delivery a number of us have received a whole z/OS serverpac via the internet. Alan Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IFAUSAGE questions
I'm using IFAUSAGE to record type 89 usage data for an ISPF dialog (IFAUSAGE REQUEST=REGISTER,DOMAIN=TASK,SCOPE=ALL...). The SMF manual says that the program does NOT need be in supervisor state in order to use the REQUEST=REGISTER function but, MUST be in supervisor state in order to issue the REQUEST=DEREGISTER function. Is the DEREGISTER function necessary? Will the system perform a DEREGISTER function on behalf of my program at task termination? Thanks, Vic -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
Charles Mills wrote: The current LE COBOL Migration manual lists a fair amount of analysis and work to determine and or provide for upward compatibility. I believe them. When a customer has hundreds of not recently touched business-critical programs, and no one who knows how they work, and no budget for conversion, and typical corporate tolerance for risk (i.e., near zero) it is a HUGE obstacle, and there is no reasoning it away, I fear. Charles Typical management approach these days: * gotta' make the change to keep support * never paid to keep people trained * won't pay to make the change * don't take any risk * Why can't we just wish the problem away? Ya' gotta' spend money sometime, somehow. Today's managers are paying the price for yesterday's managers being cheap. Now the price is higher but the cheap mentality lingers. Wait! Did I say cheap? I meant free! Reflecting a little more carefully on your second paragraph, I got to wondering, what exactly is a HUGE obstacle, and what is this thing an obstacle to? You are trying to say something is preventing a customer from doing something. I guess you're saying cost is the obstacle to conversion Then, there is no reasoning it away. Excuse me? What are you trying to say? Let's see: you cannot reason the obstacle away. Is that it? What does it mean to reason away anything? I thought I understood the gist of your post but now I guess I don't. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
All, Looks like the problem was caused by OA19265. Still pretty fresh. I'm in the process of backing it off. IBM was also able to recreate the problem. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SAP using DB2 and Daylight Savings Time
Our SAP basis team will shut down the AIX application connection at 1:45 AM Sunday, and reconnect at 3:15 AM. The application will tolerate only something like a five minute difference in timers I don't know what they do to set their clocks on the application server boxes, but at 2 AM we will have automation issue SET CLOCK=3.00.00 on the z/OS LPARS (no sysplex timer, just one CEC). John Confidentiality notice: The information included in this e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, distribution or similar action is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the original message immediately. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SAP using DB2 and Daylight Savings Time I am looking for SAP users who also use DB2. How do you accomplish your time change? We are currently running LOCAL = UTC + Offset. I know on the mainframe side we are going to change the time at the Sysplex Timers. Done it for may years now at different accounts. None that have used SAP however. Where I am ignorant is the AIX/Unix Servers. How do you accomplish this time change? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? I believe you can get any IBM software delivered electronically, from single fixes to z/OS Serverpacs. Electronic delivery of hardware is still in the future -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)
Entire products are internet delivery too. There may be some restrictions, but I have not run into any of them. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?) Not only can you order a product in CBPDO format for internet delivery a number of us have received a whole z/OS serverpac via the internet. Alan Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Charles This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)
I should have added, as others mentioned, serverpac delivery via internet is the way to go. It cut a lot of time off of my install, by forgetting about tapes. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?) Entire products are internet delivery too. There may be some restrictions, but I have not run into any of them. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SAP using DB2 and Daylight Savings Time
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Petersen, Jim This has been an ongoing discussion in the company even before the change in dates for DST. From what I am understanding, we are having problems getting the Unix/AIX Servers to change time automatically and be in synch with the z/OS and DB2 hosts. I am looking for SAP users who also use DB2. How do you accomplish your time change? We are currently running LOCAL = UTC + Offset. I know on the mainframe side we are going to change the time at the Sysplex Timers. Done it for may years now at different accounts. None that have used SAP however. Where I am ignorant is the AIX/Unix Servers. How do you accomplish this time change? You might check whether your *x supports the extended format of the TZ environment variable: TZ=CST6CDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0 This specifies, in the extension, that DST begins on the second occurrence of the 0th day of the week (Sunday) in the third month, and ends on the first occurrence of the 0th day of the week in the 11th month. This is also the workaround suggested by IBM for z/OS UNIX. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux
...we used something from Prince Software, if memory serves, to convert an entire library 3480 to 3490...with TMS...was quick (-mounts) and pretty much painfree...cost was, if memory serves, in the $35K bracket for the software.. HTH -Original Message- From: Daniel McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux I've been scouring archives for 3480 3490, tape copying, and all that good stuff. To bring it up one more time... 1. Thousands of 3480 tapes to go into future VTS 2. Some multi-file, many multi-volume 3. Cataloged, so name has to reflect new locale 4. No, we don't have vendor tools other than DITTO 5. Estimate by outside party of $250K and boss ain't buying that Suggestions...besides large doses of no-doz and moving into datacenter... As always...TIA. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Moving data between Sysplex's
Hi All We are planning to split our Sysplex into Dev and Prod, from the current setup where both Prod and Dev in one Sysplex. The Application people need to move data from Production to Dev at the start of each evening processing, what techniques are folks using to move data between their Sysplex's ?. We have a shared VTS , there is FTP, SCP, dump restore , what else ?. No idea of the volume just yet. Regards Gerard Ceruti __ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries (the Group). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. The Group accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages whatsoever and howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. The Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?
And I note in this list perceptible enthusiasm for ShopZ, which I think embraces RECEIVE ORDER, but little enthusiasm for RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. I probably would have stated it the other way around: ShopzSeries embraces RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. RECEIVE ORDER and ShopzSeries don't really have much of a relationship, and in fact RECEIVE ORDER can be a bit of a replacement for ShopzSeries for PTF orders. For those who desire a bit more comparison, here is my nut shell's worth: ShopzSeries is an ordering portal for (1) individual products in CBPDO form, (2) system replace offerings like ServerPac, and (3) PTFs. To take delivery over the Internet of an order placed in Shopz, you can use SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. RECEIVE FROMNETWORK drives the FTP operation to download the order files to z/OS. (For ServerPac orders you don't use the SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNETWORK command, but instead the ServerPac install dialog uses an SMP/E service routine, GIMGTPKG, which does essentially the same thing as RECEIVE FROMNETWORK.) SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER on the other hand is a logical combination of both ShopzSeries and RECEIVE FROMNETWORK. That is, RECEIVE ORDER is an ordering portal (albeit only for PTFs and HOLDDATA) AND it drives the FTP operation to download the order's files, all in one fell swoop. snip Do customers in any substantial number download directly to z/OS? My perception is they download to desktops and FTP/Samba/IND$FILE to z/OS. Yes I believe a significant number do download directly to z/OS, even using RECEIVE FROMNETWORK, although folks on this list can speak for themselves since I don't have actual numbers to share. snip Why did IBM choose to use HTTPS for RECEIVE ORDER rather than staying with a uniform FTP protocol? When RECEIVE ORDER was being architected, new(er) technologies on the server side dictated HTTPS (read: web services). The existing FTP infrastructure for file download was chosen, well, because it was existing (if it ain't broke...). Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving data between Sysplex's
Gerard, We are also pursuing this as a result of banking requirements here in the US regarding test access to production data(copied or direct)- data security. We are going to provide a mechanism to do this most likely utilizing dss dump, ftp, then dss restore(in some fashion - maybe panel driven). Whether they get queued up on a daily basis or not has not been decided. What is in the air is whether or not application development groups get access to production data at all, or if it gets scrubbed first(account numbers, SSN's, etc). That is up to audit and compliance/risk here. It's a big project for us. Not sure where it will take us. Of course it annoys the developers as it is always easier to test against copies of live data, rather than creating test cases. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceruti, Gerard G Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Moving data between Sysplex's Hi All We are planning to split our Sysplex into Dev and Prod, from the current setup where both Prod and Dev in one Sysplex. The Application people need to move data from Production to Dev at the start of each evening processing, what techniques are folks using to move data between their Sysplex's ?. We have a shared VTS , there is FTP, SCP, dump restore , what else ?. No idea of the volume just yet. This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FBA rant
Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: The venerable IBM 2321 A.K.A the strip picker, the one responsible for the mbb in mbbcchhr -- did CP/67 or VM ever support the 2321 ? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#51 FBA rant addenda and more topic drift. the reason given for periodically roping me into playing disk engineer was that so many senior engineers had departed (lots in the departure to memorex and then various others including later departures to storage tek). they needed somebody that understood i/o architecture at a high level ... which had been the responsibility of the senior engineers that had left. i got pulled into it because of having to get into the guts of i/o architecture as part of being able to make the virtualization work correctly ... and then i got pulled into other areas. lots of past posts mentioning getting to play in disk engineering and product test labs http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#disk recent post in this thread mentioning getting to play disk engineer http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#40 FBA rant I did later run into one of the disk engineers that had been part of the group that had departed for memorex and claimed to have done a lot of the work on 2321. He and some others at memorex had left and founded their own company that did hardware database engine. They had picked up a CTO out of Berkeley. When the CTO left their company for Teradata (and then later founded his own rdbms company), they came around san jose plant site looking to backfill the CTO position (primarily from people working on system/r) . Similar to the stories told about Shugart recruiting around san jose plant site (after he had left) ... but on much smaller scale (and they did manage to catch somebody to backfill the CTO position). lots of past posts mentioning system/r http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#systemr and other discussions around that era from the '95 SQL reunion: http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Teradata.html and recent post in original thread (from which this thread spawned) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#41 IBM S/360 series operating systems history misc. past posts mentioning shugart, floppy disks, departing for memorex, etc http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#9 Computer of the century http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#17 index searching http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#50 IBM 2311 disk drive actuator and head assembly http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004.html#5 The BASIC Variations http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004j.html#36 A quote from Crypto-Gram http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#14 Xah Lee's Unixism http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004p.html#0 Relational vs network vs hierarchic databases http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004q.html#64 Will multicore CPUs have identical cores? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005b.html#1 Foreign key in Oracle Sql http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#9 The mid-seventies SHARE survey http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005h.html#37 Software for IBM 360/30 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006n.html#30 CRAM, DataCell, and 3850 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#17 Ranking of non-IBM mainframe builders? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006x.html#27 The Future of CPUs: What's After Multi-Core? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSSO and z/OS 1.8
Hello, I have pulled the latest TSSO version from the Updates section of the CBT site. I am trying to assemble it using z/OS 1.8 macros. The assembly of TSSO fails with an undefined symbol UCMMCENT. The assembly of TSSOSS09 fails with an undefined symbol WQEUCMID. Has anyone else updated TSSO to run with z/OS 1.8? Thanks. Dave Gosse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 Exit 5 on z/OS 1.7
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:19:30 -0600, Joe Mscisz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone experienced problems assembling JES2 Exit 5 on 1.7? Is SYS1.MODGEN included in your SYSLIB concatenation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FBA rant
In a message dated 3/8/2007 9:50:22 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote: The venerable IBM 2321 A.K.A the strip picker, the one responsible for the mbb in mbbcchhr -- did CP/67 or VM ever support the 2321 ? The 2321 was only responsible for the bb part of the mbbcchhr. The m was, and still is, the extent number in the DEB. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: General question on licensing obsolete IBM products
On Mar 8, 2007, at 8:41 AM, Charles Mills wrote: The current LE COBOL Migration manual lists a fair amount of analysis and work to determine and or provide for upward compatibility. I believe them. When a customer has hundreds of not recently touched business- critical programs, and no one who knows how they work, and no budget for conversion, and typical corporate tolerance for risk (i.e., near zero) it is a HUGE obstacle, and there is no reasoning it away, I fear. Charles ---SNIP-- As I have said before you have to be a lawyer before reading the book. Be extremely *PARANOID* about wording they leave a lot of gray area (on purpose?) as well. Don't just accept their words at face value either. Read between the lines (and hopefully have good ESP) . Having said that, there is some compatibility, but having said that. Be prepared to grow gray hair and be a political outcast because of issues that will probably come up. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving data between Sysplex's
I agree with Dave in that movement of production data would be restricted at best. That said, we use Flashcopy with good results. We also use FTP over Hipersockets. (Note: it seems that good FTP performance requires the proper settings be used, such as TYPE E, MODE C, and MTU appropriate for the hardware.) I would look at a solution where the 'scrubbed' data is stowed on a set of volumes that are flashed on a scheduled basis. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ceruti, Gerard G Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Moving data between Sysplex's Hi All We are planning to split our Sysplex into Dev and Prod, from the current setup where both Prod and Dev in one Sysplex. The Application people need to move data from Production to Dev at the start of each evening processing, what techniques are folks using to move data between their Sysplex's ?. We have a shared VTS , there is FTP, SCP, dump restore , what else ?. No idea of the volume just yet. Regards Gerard Ceruti NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape Backup issues.
We looked at that solution a couple of times, but never pursued it because the best possible network times were painfully slow. Even local ESCON drives can't do the job in our tiny shop. We are using the CNT boxes in a XRC solution but still have problems getting enough glitch free bandwidth. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Benik Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 8:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Tape Backup issues. Since I received no reply to my first note I thought I'd word it differently. The 15 to 1 ratio can be explained by normal tape I/O. It seems the bottle neck is at the Brocade directors. We dump the data into an edge and it hits the front end at 60 MBPS the network then compresses it and it goes across compressed. We are not using the tape drives on the other end as optimally as they should be so we are getting a shoe shine effect. Not good on this large tape. Is anybody else doing tape backups at a remote location using Brocade(McData) equipment? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FBA rant
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: The 2321 was only responsible for the bb part of the mbbcchhr. The m was, and still is, the extent number in the DEB. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL i.e. seek CCW has six byte length ... bbcchh CKD DASD command codes ... from my qd conversion of gcard ios3270 to html (seek has count/length of 6): http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#26.1 pictures of 2321 here: http://members.optushome.com.au/intaretro/2321DCD.htm http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/datacell.html in the above you can see bin closeup ... BB selection could rotate the whole cylinder to place correct bin under the read/write heads ... rotation somewhat would reminded me of washing machine. past posts mentioning 2321 in this thread: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#51 FBA rant http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#63 FBA rant there is some slight physical packaging resemblance between 2321 and 2301 drum ... both appearing to be cylinders. 2301 drum can be seen here in mid-background to the right of the tape-drives. http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/2311.html another system picture with 2301 in mid-background http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/events/anniversaries/40th/images/ibm360_672/29.jpg close-up here http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/drum.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
TN3270
With the end of life announcement by Cisco for their CIP/CPA TN3270 Server product offering, what have other customers implemented, or are considering to replace this function? TIA, Jon Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TN3270 With the end of life announcement by Cisco for their CIP/CPA TN3270 Server product offering, what have other customers implemented, or are considering to replace this function? TIA, Jon Jon L. Veilleux We just went with doing the TN3270 emulation on the z/OS system itself, connected via OSA/Express adapters. I was very worried about CPU usage before we did it, but we have not really seen any impact. We usually have around 1200 sessions going during the day. No, not a lot, really. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX
Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP that resides on a SYSRES pack. The same DSN is used on four other LPAR'S on a z/900 running various levels of Z/OS. The CBC.SCCNCMP on the other LPAR'S are files unitque to that release of the Operating System. When we attempt to delete and define the file that needs more space, we get a DATASET in use by 10 users message. The other users are LLA and XCFAS. We assume this is because the dataset is named the same on the other LPAR'S. How can I build a new PDSE named CBC.SCCNCMP on a single LPAR without having to IPL? Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public information. This information is intended solely for the designated recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any review, dissemination, use or reliance upon this information by unintended recipients is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM's web Face
Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
Yup. Can't logon to IBMLINK. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM's web Face Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
Wondering if you folks are also affected? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
I have also been having problems with IBM sites today... ShopZ Partnerworld IBMLink I downloaded Service yesterday morning without issues though. Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM's web Face Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WORST CASE SCENARIO - BACKOUT OF MCDS CHANGE -
Hi, I am planning to implement the MCDS in VSAM EXTEND MODE. The MCDS is not shared by any other partition. I have place my backout procedures should my preliminary tests fail. My question is what should I do if I have a problem with DFHSM later in the day? For example I will implement my change at 02:00 a.m.and I get notified that there is a problem at 11:00. a.m. Can I do the following : 1. Rename the current MCDS to MCDS.BAD 2. Redfine the (cluster) MCDS with the old attributes. 3. Repro the records from the current file back to the new file so that I don't lose any updates and not be out of synch? Would there be a problem with DFHSM? Would there be other problems that may occur which I haven't foreseen? Can you suggest something else? Thanks - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Does the Shark support MIDAW?
Hi, 1° Does “Shark” (= 2105 Enterprise Storage Server) (or 2105 Model 800) (or ESS 800) support MIDAW? I'm pretty sure it does; but I can't find an official piece of paper from IBM. Something like an announcement letter, or a sales manual entry. (It's difficult with all these names such as shark, ESS , ...) 2° What's the latest status about non-IBM disks? jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark House Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP that resides on a SYSRES pack. The same DSN is used on four other LPAR'S on a z/900 running various levels of Z/OS. The CBC.SCCNCMP on the other LPAR'S are files unitque to that release of the Operating System. When we attempt to delete and define the file that needs more space, we get a DATASET in use by 10 users message. The other users are LLA and XCFAS. We assume this is because the dataset is named the same on the other LPAR'S. How can I build a new PDSE named CBC.SCCNCMP on a single LPAR without having to IPL? Mark House If you are using RACF, then issue the commands: RDEF FACILITY STGADMIN.DPDSRSN.CBC.SCCNCMP UACC(NONE) PE STGADMIN.DPDSRSN.CBC.SCCNCMP CLASS(FACILITY) ID(...) ACCESS(ALTER) SETROPTS RACLIST(FACILITY) REFRESH Now, go into ISPF option 3.4 and bring up the dataset you want to rename on the pack on which it resides. Do option r to rename the dataset, you'll get a prompt telling you it's in use, but you can still rename it. Now, on that volume create CBC.SCCNCMP.NEW to be the proper size and copy into it. Now rename it to CBC.SCCNCMP. Ref: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s340/2.6. 3.4 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FBA rant
In a message dated 3/8/2007 11:44:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: seek CCW has six byte length ... bbcchh Right. And what device, other than the 2321, ever had meaningful non-zero values for the bb part of bbcchh? In other words, if there had never been any 2321, why would we have needed the extra 2 bytes for the bb in seek and search addresses? Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX
I went back and reread the original post. It is not entirely clear that the dataset you are applying maintenance to is NOT in use by at least 1 lpar. The instructions I gave are only good if the dataset you are applying maintenance to is on a volume that is not in use. I hope you are not applying maintenance to a running system. dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX Since the dataset you want to mess with is on a different volume than the running one. Go to ispf 3.4 and list the dataset with a volser reference. Do a rename on the dataset to .old or something. You will get a panel that says it is enqueued, but bypassable. Press enter, and the rename will occur. You can then create the new dataset as .new, reload it, and rename it back into the real name. Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
Mark House stated: snip NOT THE 3270 VERSION. It is usually up and working. They are trying to get rid of it, but is much easier to use (for me) than the web based stuff. /snip AMEN! It is much(!) easier to navigate and has much better availability than the web. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
Might be why it is being removed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
NOT THE 3270 VERSION. It is usually up and working. They are trying to get rid of it, but is much easier to use (for me) than the web based stuff. Mark House I know. Then they have the audacity to tell us this when you log on: Since ServiceLink VM is being removed, there will be no changes made to the ServiceLink VM code to support the new 2007 daylight saving time extension. If you have not accessed ServiceLink from the web, we encourage you to do so now. Hey IBM - we've been trying ALL DAY ! But using the green screen this is the response to my ShopzSeries ETR: Shopz is currently having network dispatcher problems. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
NO, they are removing the version that works (3270). Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob_H Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? Might be why it is being removed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Souce Control for z/OS
If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? The criteria for a source maint system is that it (1) will allow for immediate backout of an update, (2) allow a delta report at the member level to be done and (3) recognize that different members must be compiled/assembled linked with different options. If such a thing exists on the CBT, I've missed it, and if this was discussed on IBM-Main, the archives did not pull up a hit using source maint. Two odd things are also possible: using CVS (or some such) on an Intel platform, or using a VM/CMS server machine to handle things. But for now we are looking at/for options to the way we do things today (we have multiple mainframe environments (VM, VSE, MVS) and applications to merge to a single system and track). Later, Steve.T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
That is my point. For years the web version has been broken when most needed. Makes sense to make it the only option... NOT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
Look into ISPW (www.ispw.com) It is excellent, and lightning fast. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Souce Control for z/OS If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? The criteria for a source maint system is that it (1) will allow for immediate backout of an update, (2) allow a delta report at the member level to be done and (3) recognize that different members must be compiled/assembled linked with different options. If such a thing exists on the CBT, I've missed it, and if this was discussed on IBM-Main, the archives did not pull up a hit using source maint. Two odd things are also possible: using CVS (or some such) on an Intel platform, or using a VM/CMS server machine to handle things. But for now we are looking at/for options to the way we do things today (we have multiple mainframe environments (VM, VSE, MVS) and applications to merge to a single system and track). Later, Steve.T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
There is Changeman/ZMF from Serena Software, Inc. Daniel Allen Sr. System Programmer Serena Software, Inc. 13713 Pinto Lane Lodi, CA 95240 800-699-6850 ext. 11241 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serena Software, Inc. www.serena.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Souce Control for z/OS If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? The criteria for a source maint system is that it (1) will allow for immediate backout of an update, (2) allow a delta report at the member level to be done and (3) recognize that different members must be compiled/assembled linked with different options. If such a thing exists on the CBT, I've missed it, and if this was discussed on IBM-Main, the archives did not pull up a hit using source maint. Two odd things are also possible: using CVS (or some such) on an Intel platform, or using a VM/CMS server machine to handle things. But for now we are looking at/for options to the way we do things today (we have multiple mainframe environments (VM, VSE, MVS) and applications to merge to a single system and track). Later, Steve.T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DITTO/Tape Copy Redux
I understand that we are looking for the least expensive solution (free) and buying other tools doesn't appear to be an option for the moment. But I do appreciate the suggestions. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? We use software from these folks: http://www.dcmsi.com/ Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
If we are unable to open any problem tickets then IBM's reliability numbers will look REAL good! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bob_?= Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? That is my point. For years the web version has been broken when most needed. Makes sense to make it the only option... NOT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Does the Shark support MIDAW?
Jan 2105 (ESS 800 and up) with FICON as well as 2107 (DS8000) supports MIDAW . Mit freundlichen Grüßen ... Best regards ... Salutations ... Cordialmente ... Tisztelettel ... Yoroshiku Frank Krueger I/T Specialist ATS High End Disk European Storage Competence Center IBM Systems Technology Group IBM Deutschland GmbH A187, Bld. 60, Floor B, Room 02 Hollerithstr. 1 81829 München Germany * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( 49-89-89544862 È 49-151-12105530 Ê 49-89-4504-1091 Request dB: http://ebcweb.mainz.de.ibm.com/ATSSE/atsse.nsf/AllNetdocs/About?OpenDocument IBM Deutschland GmbH Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Hans Ulrich Maerki Geschäftsführung: Martin Jetter (Vorsitzender), Rudolf Bauer, Christian Diedrich, Christoph Grandpierre, Matthias Hartmann, Andreas Kerstan Sitz der Gesellschaft: Stuttgart, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart, HRB 14562, WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 99369940 Hi, 1° Does ?Shark? (= 2105 Enterprise Storage Server) (or 2105 Model 800) (or ESS 800) support MIDAW? I'm pretty sure it does; but I can't find an official piece of paper from IBM. Something like an announcement letter, or a sales manual entry. (It's difficult with all these names such as shark, ESS , ...) 2° What's the latest status about non-IBM disks? jan jpgIYPrYpag5r.jpg Description: JPEG image
Re: IBM's web Face
Yeap Matt Dazzo Technical Services Publishers Clearing House 516-944-4816 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/8/2007 1:06:34 PM Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
If this is the support we are going to get when they remove the 3270 IBMLink, they should change their motto to :IBM - WE DON'T SERVICE WHAT WE SELL Mark House (402) 778-1966 Technical Development Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public information. This information is intended solely for the designated recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any review, dissemination, use or reliance upon this information by unintended recipients is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:34:43 -0600, Bob_H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might be why it is being removed. Unfortunately however, they are getting rid of the version (3270) that actually works and is the easiest to navigate around. Guess we can't have that now, can we? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
We looked at eventACTION and liked it. We use the free SCLM and it is ok for our immediate needs. http://www.actionsoftware.com/products.htm -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Souce Control for z/OS If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? The criteria for a source maint system is that it (1) will allow for immediate backout of an update, (2) allow a delta report at the member level to be done and (3) recognize that different members must be compiled/assembled linked with different options. If such a thing exists on the CBT, I've missed it, and if this was discussed on IBM-Main, the archives did not pull up a hit using source maint. Two odd things are also possible: using CVS (or some such) on an Intel platform, or using a VM/CMS server machine to handle things. But for now we are looking at/for options to the way we do things today (we have multiple mainframe environments (VM, VSE, MVS) and applications to merge to a single system and track). Later, Steve.T NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:04:24 -0500, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like the problem was caused by OA19265. Still pretty fresh. I'm in the process of backing it off. IBM was also able to recreate the problem. Scary... ya really have to wonder what kind of testing is done when a change to something in 3.4 breaks something else in 3.4. BTW, is anyone else have problems with IBMLINK on the web? I had to go into classic IBMLINK to pull up the APAR. APAR Identifier .. OA19265 Last Changed 07/03/01 EDITING A VSAM DATA SET VIA ISPF EDIT COMMAND WHICH IS ALLOCATED SHR TO OTHER JOBS LEADS TO MESSAGE 'DATA SET IN USE' Symptom .. MS MSG Status ... CLOSED PER Severity ... 3 Date Closed . 07/02/23 Component .. 565504202 Duplicate of Reported Release . F02 Fixed Release 999 Component Name ISPF V4 (PDF/SC Special Notice Current Target Date ..07/05/09 Flags SCP ... Platform Status Detail: SHIPMENT - Packaged solution is available for shipment. PE PTF List: PTF List: Release C02 : UA32442 available 07/02/27 (F702 ) Release D02 : UA32538 available 07/02/27 (F702 ) Release E02 : UA32562 available 07/02/27 (F702 ) Release F02 : UA32563 available 07/02/27 (F702 ) Release G02 : UA32566 available 07/02/27 (F702 ) Parent APAR: Child APAR list: ERROR DESCRIPTION: When trying to edit a VSAM dataset via ISPF 3.4 and command E which is allocated SHR to several CICS regions the following message is issued (VSAM_EDIT_ENABLED=YES): Data set in use or IKJ56225I DATA SET aaa.bbb.ccc ALREADY IN USE, TRY LATER+ IKJ56225I DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB OR USER LOCAL FIX: directly invoke the program to edit the VSAM data set. PROBLEM SUMMARY: * USERS AFFECTED: ISPF users of shared VSAM datasets. * * PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: Using ISPF DSLIST option 3.4 to Edit a * * VSAM data set that is defined to CICS * * as SHARED returns MSGIKJ56225I. * * RECOMMENDATION: Apply the provided PTF. * -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Thompson If one needed a source control system that could be handled via TSO, where could one find such? I know about Panvalet, Endevor, SCLM, and Librarian. Are there any others? Changeman (Serena Software). -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: D37 for PDSE in LNKLIST in SYSPLEX
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:06:30 -0600, Mark House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Summary: We need to delete a file that has enqueue's on the DSN in multiple LPAR's on the same Z/900. Any help would be appreciated. In performing SMP/E processing we ran into a D37-04 on the CBC.SCCNCMP that resides on a SYSRES pack. The same DSN is used on four other LPAR'S on a z/900 running various levels of Z/OS. The CBC.SCCNCMP on the other LPAR'S are files unitque to that release of the Operating System. When we attempt to delete and define the file that needs more space, we get a DATASET in use by 10 users message. The other users are LLA and XCFAS. We assume this is because the dataset is named the same on the other LPAR'S. How can I build a new PDSE named CBC.SCCNCMP on a single LPAR without having to IPL? To be clear. you are trying to delete a maintenance version of the data set, correct? It that is the case, since OS/390 2.10 you can just rename it via ISPF 3.4 even though it is in use. You will be presented with an are you sure panel. Then you can delete the renamed dsn. You need to have at least read authority to the RACF facility class named STGADMIN.DPDSRN.olddsname, where olddsname is up to 23 characters of the existing data set name. The doc is hard to find on this - it is in the DFSMSdfp Advanced Services manual in the chapter on Managing the Volume Table Of Contents (it is not documented in the ISPF manuals at all). Specifically, the information can be found in chapter 2.6 - Renaming a Data Set in the VTOC under the General Considerations and Restrictions section. If you are trying to apply maintenance to a live sysres (yuck) and need to delete that version... entirely different story. You need to copy to a new dsn, point SMP/E at that dsn, and do dynamic LNKLST update to point to the newdsn without touching the original one (don't delete it). Plenty of info in the archives with various scenarios. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ISAM and/or self-modifying channel programs
In a message dated 3/7/2007 4:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: recent thread discussing patching CCWTRANS to handle ISAM and other self-modifying channel programs Is ISAM still used anywhere under MVS/ESA/OS-390/z? Does anyone know of any self-modifying DASD channel programs other than from ISAM? Just curious. I remember seeing a BDAM chan pgm from Bob Rannie in which an R0 data field was read, updated, and rewritten all in one chan pgm. Would depend on the BDAM options being used. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFSMS/RMM Tape Copy/Stack
Hi, I've searched the IBM-MAIN archives, but could find an answer to my question there. I have a customer who is interested in copying several thousand tapes to new tapes. They are an RMM TMS. Does DFSMS/RMM have a tape copy/stack capability? Any other thoughts? Client doesn't want to purchase any other software. Thanks for your help. Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at www.infosecinc.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:34:43 -0600, Bob_H wrote: Might be why it is being removed. Unfortunately however, they are getting rid of the version (3270) that actually works and is the easiest to navigate around. Guess we can't have that now, can we? You gotta just get used to the new way. The new way is pretty, it's kewl, you can get around in it with mouse clicks instead of a bunch of typing, etc. They gotta get rid of the old way because all it does is work reliably. Same for mainframes in general -- all they do is work reliably. -jc- They're coming to take me away, ha-ha -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBM @ 1-800-237-5511
Since IBMLINK isn't too reliable maybe we should go back to 1-800-237-5511. Does it even still work? A sudden increase in call volumes (assume thay track that stuff) should garner attention from someone. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
My firewall guys will be glad when I tell them that my problems trying to use RECEIVE ORDER for the last two days are not our company's firewalls' fault. Brian On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:53:55 -0500, Matt Dazzo wrote: Yeap Matt Dazzo Alan.C.Field 3/8/2007 1:06:34 PM Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
On 8 Mar 2007 11:36:31 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: You gotta just get used to the new way. The new way is pretty, it's kewl, you can get around in it with mouse clicks instead of a bunch of typing, etc. They gotta get rid of the old way because all it does is work reliably. Same for mainframes in general -- all they do is work reliably. When IBM chooses the new way, we might as well give up on its old values. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
I don't know where the problems are limited to, but I have been on IBMLink all day. I just logged on to ShopzSeries, and got in right away. Confidentiality notice: The information included in this e-mail, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, distribution or similar action is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the original message immediately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
I personally was glad to see the same re my own problems with it. Jon snip My firewall guys will be glad when I tell them that my problems trying to use RECEIVE ORDER for the last two days are not our company's firewalls' fault. /snipBrian On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:53:55 -0500, Matt Dazzo wrote: Yeap Matt Dazzo Alan.C.Field 3/8/2007 1:06:34 PM Any one else having problems with IBMLink and ShopzSeries sites today? Sometimes I get logged on sometimes I don't. Our proxy server times out trying to get to ShopzSeries. I ordered PUT0702 for internet delivery and trying to download it I get connection reset by peer - every time I try and down load it. That's been happening for a couple of days now. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
I received a call back from IBMLINK support and was told that if I bookmarked any screen except the initial logon screen that the logon would work 90% of the time. What's wrong with this answer!! I have no hope for the 'new' IBMLINK! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
I was hesitant to even go and ask our firewall guys but finally did. You should see the length of the ETR I have open before I got that one nugget from the support people to say it was broken!! Is there a place in IBM that cares that you can address a complaint to? My firewall guys will be glad when I tell them that my problems trying to use RECEIVE ORDER for the last two days are not our company's firewalls' fault. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
AMEN to that!!! Web does not necessarily equal GOOD. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: 2007, March, 08 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? NO, they are removing the version that works (3270). Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob_H Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? Might be why it is being removed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ___ This e-mail may be privileged and/or confidential, and the sender does not waive any related rights and obligations. Any distribution, use or copying of this e-mail or the information it contains by other than an intended recipient is unauthorized. If you received this e-mail in error, please advise me (by return e-mail or otherwise) immediately. Ce courrier électronique est confidentiel et protégé. L'expéditeur ne renonce pas aux droits et obligations qui s'y rapportent. Toute diffusion, utilisation ou copie de ce message ou des renseignements qu'il contient par une personne autre que le (les) destinataire(s) désigné(s) est interdite. Si vous recevez ce courrier électronique par erreur, veuillez m'en aviser immédiatement, par retour de courrier électronique ou par un autre moyen. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How are you handling high SMF record volume?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: We would like to move these records from SMF to GTF To disagree slightly with Barry Merrill, not all SMF records are written using an SVC. There is also a branch entry path if using the SMFEWTM macro instead of SMFWTM. But this is a nit. I don't know which form DB2 uses. Another big consideration in favor of SMF is that IBM has made SMF the flagship vehicle for getting accounting/performance data out of MVS. Great pains have been taken to optimize the I/O performance of the SMF writer (but GTF is not too shabby, either). And a full SMF data set can be automatically switched to start recording in a different, empty SMF data set. As far as I know, GTF does not have such a facility. A few years ago another problem with GTF was that there could only be one GTF running in an MVS image, and anyone who needed GTF data for debugging had to wait for the SMF-capturing GTF to end. But now you can have multiple GTFs running simultaneously. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MIM control file volume DASD lockout
In a message dated 3/7/2007 4:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, David.A.Wright @ DOM.COM writes: We have been getting MIM control file lockouts for almost a year. We have been working with STK (the DASD manufacturer), IBM and CA (MIM). So far, nothing has resolved the problem. I discovered the hard way once that there is no such thing as a standalone test system. I tested some software on a test system, my code crashed the system just after its JES2 had gotten the checkpoint data set lock, the checkpoint and all SPOOL was shared (of course) with the production systems. You could be having some unexpected interference from any of the systems sharing the device with the MIM data set on it if there is any other allocated data on it. The start pending messages probably mean that some other system has the device reserved. First make sure there are no data sets on the device other than the MIM file. Next try to determine which LPAR has reserved the device, if any. Once you know which LPAR holds the reserve (if any), then you can work on resolving why that LPAR has not released the device. If no LPAR has reserved the device, then I agree with STK - there is/are probably bug(s) in the channel subsystem of one or more of the LPARs. If you can gather a GTF trace of all I/O events involving the device in question from all LPARs during the time of the lockout, I will be happy to study them and try to help resolve the problem. Reply to me privately if interested. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TN3270
Nothing. The standard OSA and native software has supplied all of this functionality for years. Many argue that there was never a need for such in the first place. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TN3270 With the end of life announcement by Cisco for their CIP/CPA TN3270 Server product offering, what have other customers implemented, or are considering to replace this function? TIA, Jon Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:54:09 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a call back from IBMLINK support and was told that if I bookmarked any screen except the initial logon screen that the logon would work 90% of the time. What's wrong with this answer!! I have no hope for the 'new' IBMLINK! Don't bookmark the initial logon screen? you should have said, oh hey, yea, good point thanks, why would anyone ever want to bookmark Screen 1 ? what's wrong with this picture? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
No, what I should have said is that when I send my check to IBM it will get there 90% of the time! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Justice Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY? On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:54:09 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received a call back from IBMLINK support and was told that if I bookmarked any screen except the initial logon screen that the logon would work 90% of the time. What's wrong with this answer!! I have no hope for the 'new' IBMLINK! Don't bookmark the initial logon screen? you should have said, oh hey, yea, good point thanks, why would anyone ever want to bookmark Screen 1 ? what's wrong with this picture? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM's web Face
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan C. Field Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM's web Face SNIP Is there a place in IBM that cares that you can address a complaint to? SNIP Perhaps SHARE is a visible enough forum that IBM will listen? If this is the case, then perhaps SHARE needs to take a user requirement to IBM that the WEB interface must have the same RAS of the system it was replacing. And to go further, if the WEB interface dies, all maint charges for all mainframe users is rebated for that month. [Gotta have some negotiation point you will part with.] Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history
In a message dated 3/8/2007 2:05:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, _patrick.okeefe @ WAMU.NET_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I remember 3 different BPSloaders - 3-card, 7-card, and 12-card versions. There very well could have been a 6-card loader, too. I may have had a brain check. I thought it was 6, but it must have been 7. 3 seems like too few. And it was all too many decades ago. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history
VM has always shipped with '3CARD LOADER S2' With the advent of XA the number of cards increased to 5. (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: In a message dated 3/8/2007 2:05:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, _patrick.okeefe @ WAMU.NET_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I remember 3 different BPSloaders - 3-card, 7-card, and 12-card versions. There very well could have been a 6-card loader, too. I may have had a brain check. I thought it was 6, but it must have been 7. 3 seems like too few. And it was all too many decades ago. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions. [Alan Barth, 1951; The Loyalty of Free Men] BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html .. For: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Chris Langford, Cestrian Software: Consulting services for: VM, VSE, MVS, z/VM, z/OS, OS/2, P/3x0 etc. z/FM - A toolbox for VM MVS at http://zfm.cestrian.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command
Mark Zeldon writes: snip BTW, is anyone else have problems with IBMLINK on the web? I had to go into classic IBMLINK to pull up the APAR. /snip Mark, folks have been complaining about IBMLINK all afternoon. Since you also have access to the (obsolete) version why not open an ETR? It may not help but, at least, it might annoy them! Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FBA rant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right. And what device, other than the 2321, ever had meaningful non-zero values for the bb part of bbcchh? In other words, if there had never been any 2321, why would we have needed the extra 2 bytes for the bb in seek and search addresses? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#64 FBA rant for other drift ... if the geometry characteristics were to be ignored then you could treat the six byte seek argument as the track number (allowing the device to interpret the physical characteristics ... somewhat similar to what FBA does in the locate command for the record number). i.e. CKD seek command is six byte field http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#26.1 treated as purely a 2**48 bit numeric would allow for nearly 300 trillion tracks and FBA locate command http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/gcard.html#26.2 is eight byte number, which could allow for 2**64 512-byte records (i.e. 2**9 times 2**64 bytes, 2**73 bytes per device) for something complete different, quicky search engine use turned up this (IBM) patent reference on mapping tof CKD to native FBA hardware http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6112277-description.html and title of above: Method and means for reducing device contention by random accessing and partial track staging of records according to a first DASD format but device mapped according to a second DASD format ... snip ... The above patent also references another patent: Reference should be made to Menon, U.S. Pat. No. 5,301,304, Emulating Records in One Record Format in Another Record Format, issued Apr. 5, 1994. Menon exemplifies the state of the art in format conversion disclosing an emulation method for rapidly accessing CKD records in which the CKD records are stored on a disk drive in FBA format. ... snip ... now as suggested in previous post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#46 FBA rant what would be the difficulty in modifying whatever MVS calls its current incantation of CCWTRANS ... to morph application space EXCP CCWs that are still doing things like multi-track VTOC/PDS search into FBA operations ... aka there are hardware control units and hypervisor software that perform such morphing ... then if the original VS2 started out with (cp67's) CCWTRANS moved into the VS2 kernel ... why can't more current hypervisor technology be moved directly into the VS2 kernel here is decade-plus old descriptive narative of ECKD (from vm mailing list) ... basically discussing the retrofitting FBA-like channel commands to CKD architecture: http://listserv.uark.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind9604L=ibmvmT=0P=9321 from above: ECKD channel programs completely describe the nature and scope of data transfer operation before the first data transfer command is executed. These predictive channel programs remove all possible surprise from the storage subsystem during data transfer operations. Like Fixed-Block Architecture (FBA) DASD, ECKD uses the DEFINE EXTENT channel command to delimit the range of tracks which may be affected by a channel program. ECKD is still CKD: each record can contain Count, Key, and Data areas. However, the count need not be CCHHR, as on conventional CKD DASD; one could number the records sequentially, like FBA blocks. ... snip ... as opposed to post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#40 FBA rant with my nearly 25yr old email commenting on ECKD http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#email820907 slightly older random email reference to CALYPSO and ECKD ... in the following DMKTRD is the vm370 kernel module responsible for cp trace command related to tracing virtual machine i/o and ccws. To: wheeler Date: 10/10/80 15:28:17 Lynn, The new DMKTRD will trace CALYSPO' new Define Extent and Locate Record CCW's. A 16 byte argument is displayed on the trace, immediately below the trace of the CCW itself Fix was tested virtual VM under VM and will go on 31B at STL by next Tuesday. ... snip ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Souce Control for z/OS
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Re: IBMLINK DOWN ALL DAY?
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