Netview Messaging (was: System automation subplexing )
Kevin, Life would be a lot simpler if products running on z/OS all issued messages through the operating system message service, but many -- especially NetView (and exploited by the applications riding on top of NetView) -- have their own, subject to their own rules, as you have discovered. Notify operators have been in NetView for a very long time, so I suspect you will have very little chance of changing their behavior. A better strategy might be to persuade System Automation to issue the message as an operating system WTO rather than using the NetView service. The thing is that whatever issues the messages is sensitive to the underlying operating system (or not, as the case my be). We started to discover messages going to the netlog (networks netview, as opposed to aoflog - automation netview) when we migrated to SA/390 V3.1 (from 2.3). z/OS was 1.6, NetView was 5.1. My networks colleage grumbled, but it didn't have impact (other than the same messages appearing in every last one of his EMCS consoles). Now we are forced to use automation subplexing (which according to IBM we implemented correctly), but Automation messages (most notably aof100i, issued every ten minutes, but others, too) not only appears in netlog, it also appears in the aoflog of the other subplex, where it might have quite a lot of undesired results. These are only messages issued by automation on the z/OS 1.6 system, when the notify operator was not logged on or deleted. Last week we had that system upgraded to z/OS 1.8, too, to make an all-1.8 sysplex. No notify op logged on. In that case, the message appeared where it should, and only there - in the correct automation netview and in syslog of that system. While SYSOPS ctracing this message, I also discovered the DIDOCS EMCS console. Once a notify op is logged on (under z/OS 1.6), the message is NOT issued via WTO at all! (It is issued via WTO under z/OS 1.8, regardless of the notify op being logged on or off). But when under 1.6 no notify op is logged on, it is basically broadcast (the broadcast and info flags were on in the WQE) to all active EMCS consoles that have these attributes (I believe that includes all SDSF default consoles and also many automation/netview consoles). And I am making no progress whatsoever to get IBM to see that (and I think the ETR has already more than 72 pages) and take action against it. Regards, Barbara -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VSAM in extents
John, For your first paragraph, lets just put it with all those other extent myths. I mean, for sequential access you're just reading the sequence set anyway - what is there to flush!!! Striping sequential datasets can definitely speed up sequential access, but you may need to experiment with the BUFND number that gives you the best results for the combination of stripes and CISZ you use. There is no need to spread stripes across LCU or LSS. It would be more important to spread the STORGRUP evenly across the Bays, Parity Groups and Cache-Halves to give ESS the best chance of pre-fetching from disk faster than the channels request it. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] VSAM in extents I'm curious about this one. A person here has stated that when a VSAM KSDS file is in multiple extents, it performs more poorly than it would in a single contigueous extent. He said something to the effect that when a portion of the index is referenced which is in another extent that the entire in-memory buffer for the file is flushed. I have no idea where he got this information. Also, he wants to use SMS striping for VSAM files which are mainly accessed sequentially because it would significantly decrease the I/O time to read. We are using multiple FICON connections to a single 2105 ESS (Shark). We do not have the volumes in any storage group spread across LCUs. My contention is that it may well decrease I/O, but it would require that we likewise stripe the volumes across the 2105's LCUs as well. We don't do this at present. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Cobol Conditional Compile
A good idea, but a C-Compiler is not available on the programmers workstations. I'll try it with REXX. Maybe IBM decides to built in the conditional compile feature in the future. Thank you all for your response. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Klaus Driever, Werner Ortner, Herbert Zoch Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Re: Usage of KB and KiB
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: [...] Then you have MS issues. When using Windows explorer a file show as 1 KB Right click on it and select properties it shows 55 bytes of actual size, but that it takes 4096 bytes of disk space. So what is the size, 55, 1KB (is this 1024 or 1000 bytes?), or 4096 bytes. I still don't see how Microsoft caused 'binary-decimal' mess of kB. They simply use existing convention. BTW: z/OS provides even bigger mess. MUCH BIGGER! Example: I just allocated TEST.FILE. PS FB 80. Edited, put exactly *one* character. Of course one character occupies entire 80-byte record. ISPF shows current allocation 54kBytes (binary or decimal???), current utilization shows 27kB. All right, this is because SDB (System Determined Blocksize) and 3390 geometry. So I allocated TEST.FILE2. PS F 80, no B. Put one character. Now I have allocation of 6kBytes (for one record ???), current utilization is 1kByte. All we know it takes whole track. Compared to that Windows Explorer is pretty clear. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to extend addressability over 4095 with USING statements
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:52:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:57:58 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Either use multiple base registers, or use the long displacement type instructions Another possibility is to use a relative addressing instruction, if one exists. The long-displacement instructions _are_ relative instructions. Actually, they are two completely different things. You are correct, Ed. Thanks for the correction. Sorry about that, John. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Upgrading the processor
Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group. I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe. Since everything is non supported management is looking into upgrading the processor to a 2096 R07 (F02) box and operating system to the latest ZOS version, since it now looks like it would be another two to three years before can be converted off. If I can come up with a list of jufitications for upgrading the processor and operating system. The system then might be taken off the endangered species list. 1. SOX hardware and software compliance. 2. All software will be vendor supported. 3. Installation of ZVM which would allow us to run LINUX on the box. 4. All new applications to be considered to on the platform. Thanks for any information that I can get. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FICON Express4 card - 4km vs 10km
What is a difference between FICON Express4 LX cards ? One is up to 4km distance, the second is up to 10km. Previous models (Express, Express2) were up to 10km. In other words: what are pros and cons of those cards, *except* the distance ? Price ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2007 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości opłacony) wynosi 118.064.140 zł. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwał XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. Sabo, Frank wrote: Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group. I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe. Since everything is non supported management is looking into upgrading the processor to a 2096 R07 (F02) box and operating system to the latest ZOS version, since it now looks like it would be another two to three years before can be converted off. If I can come up with a list of jufitications for upgrading the processor and operating system. The system then might be taken off the endangered species list. 1. SOX hardware and software compliance. 2. All software will be vendor supported. 3. Installation of ZVM which would allow us to run LINUX on the box. 4. All new applications to be considered to on the platform. Thanks for any information that I can get. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe. Sounds like a possible future story for Reboot Hill. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OSHELL RC = 32512
Anton Have you tried CD as 'cd' lowercase and does the batch job have a omvs segment defined in the security product. Regards Gerard Ceruti -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: 27 July 2007 06:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: OSHELL RC = 32512 Hi, When I start OMVS via TSO, I can do all the UNIX commands but if I run a batch job with the following JCL, I get the following back : READY OSHELL CD hwwd OSHELL RC = 32512 OSHELL Exit Status = 127 CD: FSUM7351 not found 32512 One of the following conditions may have resulted: The SH keyword was specified with a program_name value for BPXBATCH and no program_name could be found. The shell exited with an exit status of 127. stdout contains a shell message indicating the program was not found. The program_name or the shell exited with an exit status of 127. //SETUPEXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSEXEC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC //SYSTSIN DD * OSHELL CD hwwd /* Anton -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ Standard Bank Disclaimer and Confidentiality Note This e-mail, its attachments and any rights attaching hereto are, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise, the property of Standard Bank Group Limited and/or its subsidiaries (the Group). It is confidential, private and intended for the addressee only. Should you not be the addressee and receive this e-mail by mistake, kindly notify the sender, and delete this e-mail, immediately and do not disclose or use same in any manner whatsoever. Views and opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender unless clearly stated as those of the Group. The Group accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damages whatsoever and howsoever incurred, or suffered, resulting, or arising, from the use of this email or its attachments. The Group does not warrant the integrity of this e-mail nor that it is free of errors, viruses, interception or interference. Licensed divisions of the Standard Bank Group are authorised financial services providers in terms of the Financial Advisory and Intermediary Services Act, No 37 of 2002 (FAIS). For information about the Standard Bank Group Limited visit our website http://www.standardbank.co.za ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. The new name of zOSe is NALC (New Application License Charge). I think that zOSe 1.8 is the last one. Sabo, Frank wrote: Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group. I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe.Since everything is non supported management is looking into upgrading the processor to a 2096 R07 (F02) box and operating system to the latest ZOS version, since it now looks like it would be another two to three years before can be converted off. If I can come up with a list of jufitications for upgrading the processor and operating system. The system then might be taken off the endangered species list. 1.SOX hardware and software compliance. 2.All software will be vendor supported. 3.Installation of ZVM which would allow us to run LINUX on the box. 4.All new applications to be considered to on the platform. Thanks for any information that I can get. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. -- Julius (Groucho) Henry Marx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
OK, thanks for the update... Mark Jacobs wrote: Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. The new name of zOSe is NALC (New Application License Charge). I think that zOSe 1.8 is the last one. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed
We usually update members of any library in any time. We would like to know if this library is LLA managed to prevent useless LLACOPYs. We are searching for an utility, with library as a parameter, to query if it is LLA managed or not. We want to avoid a console activation / deactivation and doing an D LLA command. Do you know if there is any interface module that does something like this? Thanks a lot! Angels. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth E Tomiak Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be? snip More than the 'admins' on those other boxes where the company allows them to reboot any time of the day or night to fix their problems but expect the mainframe to stay up 24x7. Ours __USED__ to do that. Then we got new management. That had a broader range of experience. They got the thumbscrews out about this sort of thing. Curiously, those admins decided to move to greener pastures. Or like one LAN person who didn't want to come back in later, so he just unplugged one of our core switches only for a minute while he physically moved it. This during the normal work day. He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 4:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux Z/ VM: A virtual machine like Virtual PC It's the other way around. Virtual PC is like z/VM. The first VM came out in 1967 on IBM hardware. Also, zLINUX is not a term that IBM uses. It's LINUX for zSeries, and just happens to be another distribution that runs on a different hardware platform. - Yeah, like a Yugo is like a Bentley. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
And... I think your machine model is H70. Itschak -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor OK, thanks for the update... Mark Jacobs wrote: Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. The new name of zOSe is NALC (New Application License Charge). I think that zOSe 1.8 is the last one. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ NOD32 2428 (20070730) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
No it is an H75 processor. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor And... I think your machine model is H70. Itschak -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor OK, thanks for the update... Mark Jacobs wrote: Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. The new name of zOSe is NALC (New Application License Charge). I think that zOSe 1.8 is the last one. -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 rich.smrcina at vmassist.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2008 - Chattanooga - April 18-22, 2008 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ NOD32 2428 (20070730) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
zLinux distro
Hi, I'm looking for a free zLinux distribution. Which do you prefer? I'd like to install a 64bit zLinux under Hercules. Gabor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
John McKown wrote This during the normal work day. He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake! I LOVE IT Paul *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed
There is a SYSDSN enqueue on the dataset for the LLA address space when it is allocated to LLA. Perhaps that can be a starting point for you. Tools such as TASID (IBM) or WHOHAS (DA$ENQS from Dave's MVS freeware website). http://www.planetmvs.com/freeware/daenqs.html Regards Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Vilardell Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed We usually update members of any library in any time. We would like to know if this library is LLA managed to prevent useless LLACOPYs. We are searching for an utility, with library as a parameter, to query if it is LLA managed or not. We want to avoid a console activation / deactivation and doing an D LLA command. Do you know if there is any interface module that does something like this? Thanks a lot! Angels. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html == Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H30, H50, and H70. Unless there is something new going on here? ;. Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor No it is an H75 processor. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Upgrading the processor Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group.=20 I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe. Since everything is non supported management is looking into upgrading the processor to a 2096 R07 (F02) box and operating system to the latest ZOS version, since it now looks like it would be another two to three years before can be converted off. If I can come up with a list of jufitications for upgrading the processor and operating system. The system then might be taken off the endangered species list. 1. SOX hardware and software compliance. 2. All software will be vendor supported. 3. Installation of ZVM which would allow us to run LINUX on the box. 4. All new applications to be considered to on the platform. Thanks for any information that I can get. SNIP Frank: Depending on how you are using the MP3000, you will have to obtain external DASD to go to the new box. There are no more data center in a box systems from IBM. With z/OS 1.8, you will be able to use an external time reference (NOT an ETR) and provide time services to your LAN (assuming a z/9 and I'm not up on model numbers these days, so a 2096 could be one). The z box you get will probably be more than the 60MIPs (roughly) that you have today. It should be able to run Unix System Services and provide services that other boxes do, but will be able to recover in a disaster faster. Having been in this type of environment, I made sure that for every DR drill the mainframe recovered in the allotted time (hey it was the cash box for the companies involved), while their other platforms were having this or that problem with getting connectivity to their SAN, getting the O/S loaded, getting the applications re-installed, etc. (gotta love that Registry from M/$). Something to think about. Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H30, H50, and H70. Unless there is something new going on here? ;. Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 SNIP Ever hear of an IFL? They were add-ons that came out AFTER the original H30, H50, and H70. Now what that did to the model number is beyond me, because I never worked with those, or had customers that wanted them. And I just realized in an earlier post I was having a typical Monday and was thinking of the entry system at about 60MIPS. I'm expecting an email from a former customer any moment... Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
Steve, The machine that we are running on is a 7060 H75 with 210 MIPS. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H30, H50, and H70. Unless there is something new going on here? ;. Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 SNIP Ever hear of an IFL? They were add-ons that came out AFTER the original H30, H50, and H70. Now what that did to the model number is beyond me, because I never worked with those, or had customers that wanted them. And I just realized in an earlier post I was having a typical Monday and was thinking of the entry system at about 60MIPS. I'm expecting an email from a former customer any moment... Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zLinux distro
Just FYI, there is a zLinux list also in case you didn't know at marist.edu. http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Please also see Timothy Sipples' email on this list: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux Among other things he says: Zlinux : A linux which is compiled for Z Architecture, whether 31 bit or 64 bit. like Slack, Suse or centOS No, Slackware, Novell SuSE, and CentOS are Linux distributions. All three of those distributions are available for System z. The preferred generic term for Linux running on these systems is Linux on System z. /end Cheers, Lindy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabor Hoffer Sent: 30. heinäkuuta 2007 16:24 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: zLinux distro Hi, I'm looking for a free zLinux distribution. Which do you prefer? I'd like to install a 64bit zLinux under Hercules. Gabor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor Steve, The machine that we are running on is a 7060 H75 with 210 MIPS. SNIP Yeah, I know -- I was stuck on the H30 for some reason. Actually, I thought the H70 was ~230 MIPS (dual 120MIP engines) or have I been gone too long from the MP3000s? I just love Mondays. Gotta go get my next cup o'joe. Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:59:20 -0500, A. Vilardell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We usually update members of any library in any time. We would like to know if this library is LLA managed to prevent useless LLACOPYs. We are searching for an utility, with library as a parameter, to query if it is LLA managed or not. We want to avoid a console activation / deactivation and doing an D LLA command. Do you know if there is any interface module that does something like this? Nothing that is GUPI that *I* know of. You can borrow code from ShowMVS if you want to see how to get at the list via undocumented control blocks. Can you explain the exact issue / problem? It sounds like you currently have some process (change control?) that updates libraries and always does the LLACOPY just in case. So is it a problem if it gets RC=4 on LLACOPY? It probably would be more overhead to check first and not issue the LLACOPY (if it is overhead you are trying to prevent). If you don't have a special CSVLLAxx member in your shop, then you can just assume only libraries in the LNKLST are LLA managed (since that is the default). If you do - and have a parmlib naming standard or consistent CSALLAxx member name between systems, perhaps you can just look at the CSVLLAxx member in parmlib to get the library list if you don't want to use the undocumented control blocks. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
Sorry, You're right. The mips chart was taken from phil's website. Model MIPS MSUs Group 7060-H30 63 GOLC 40* 7060-H50 127 GOLC 50* 7060-H55 See 7060-H50 7060-H70 209 GOLC 70* 7060-H75 See 7060-H70 Itschak -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor Steve, The machine that we are running on is a 7060 H75 with 210 MIPS. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H30, H50, and H70. Unless there is something new going on here? ;. Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 SNIP Ever hear of an IFL? They were add-ons that came out AFTER the original H30, H50, and H70. Now what that did to the model number is beyond me, because I never worked with those, or had customers that wanted them. And I just realized in an earlier post I was having a typical Monday and was thinking of the entry system at about 60MIPS. I'm expecting an email from a former customer any moment... Later, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html __ NOD32 2429 (20070730) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cheers (was Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE)
Cheers! We have tested an early version of a fix to resolve this issue, and it appears to work just fine. My thanks to ASG for their efforts to resolve this issue. Our tech LPAR is still running VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) - 16 days and counting - I'm starting to think we might really be approaching the end of this journey! Not everything is fixed, but I believe there are fixes in the works for every problem we still have on this LPAR. Brian On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:21:04 -0500, Brian Peterson wrote: We recently reported an issue with ASG for their Pro/JCL and Info/XE products regarding their use of Key 8 CSA. As a result of our problem report, I believe the vendor is looking into what it would take for them to fix this. If you are interested in the resolution of this issue for these products, it would be an excellent idea to open an issue with ASG to request this fix. Brian P.S. Our tech LPAR has been running VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) since last Saturday. In the dark days (like six months ago), I never thought I'd see the day when we'd have even one LPAR IPL successfully with this option set. Progress! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
Actually, for what it's worth, the H55 and H75 had nothing to do with IFLs or anything else. Andthey weren't MP3000 style machines either. Several years ago we upgraded from a 9672-R16 to an MP3000 7060-H50. Actually a lateral move as they were the same horsepower. Software and maintenance savings allowed me to buy the H50 new for less than buying the used R16 I had on the floor. Later I found out about the H55 and H75. The H55 was essentially a 9672-R16 rebranded and the H75 was a 9672-R26. At least that's what the IBM business partner told us - after it was too late to try to talk IBM into giving me GOLC pricing on my R16 and just call it a 7060-H55. Back to the original poster asking about how to justify the upgrade to a 2096 machine: I was able to do exactly the same thing switching from my 7060 (bought and paid for) to a 2096 by pointing out the maintenance and software savings. These two items alone allowed me to show mgmt a 18 month complete payback period with everything after that pure gravy. Don't forget to look at the sub-capacity pricing as well if you're not running the box flat out. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor Sorry, You're right. The mips chart was taken from phil's website. Model MIPS MSUs Group 7060-H30 63 GOLC 40* 7060-H50 127 GOLC 50* 7060-H55 See 7060-H50 7060-H70 209 GOLC 70* 7060-H75 See 7060-H70 Itschak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
---snip This during the normal work day. He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake! ---unsnip-- At Clearing, he'd have gotten a promotion.TO THE CURB!!! :-D -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
Legolas Wood wrote: System Z: An specific operating system made by IBM for its architecture, what is its differences with the Zlinux? Current Z System version is 1.8 and Z/OS is old name of this operating system. John Giltner wrote: SystemZ is the current IBM mainframe hardware architecture, not a OS. z/OS is one of the OS's that can run on SystemZ comptuers. Also, z/OS is the current evolution of the original IBM operating system that came out in the 1960s. It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS. Over the years it has continued to improve and keep up with the times. * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Damaged Catalog Alert
Greetings all, A head's up to the non-ECS shops regarding OA19870. IBM just reopened my ETR query on this APAR with the following update: I wanted to let you know that we will be changing the text of APAR OA19870 to now also include that this apar should be applied to systems that have catalogs with shareoptions (3,4). If you are sharing any of your catalogs, even without ECS, we are now suggesting that you apply the APAR. Hope this helps ;-) Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Question about the listserv
I have a question on the proper use of the IBMMain listserv. At times when I reply my reply is rejected because it contains an excessive amount of quoted material from previous posts. I don't have this problem with other listservs. What is the proper way to reply to a post on IBMMain? Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Tom, You might find this informative: http://www.planetmvs.com/ibm-main/faqp.html#rpost Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question about the listserv I have a question on the proper use of the IBMMain listserv. At times when I reply my reply is rejected because it contains an excessive amount of quoted material from previous posts. I don't have this problem with other listservs. What is the proper way to reply to a post on IBMMain? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Usage of KB and KiB
On 28 Jul 2007 05:07:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: It's not easy. For example, you cannot dump 15MB region of memory (RAM) to 15MB file. It doesn't mention tapes, wires (10MB/s - is it binary or decimal ?), etc. That's very important with virtual memory. I hope there's a continuing movement towards a single measurement here. IMHO, that HDD vendors found a way to increase their capacities by using decimal prefixes. They even tried to use unformatted capacity, but quickly gave up since, noone could use such capacity. Sometimes we see 2.0MB on 3.5 diskettes, those which we use as 1.44MB. I know, there are ways to use non-standard format and have more than 1.44MB, but it was never 2.0MB (usually 1.68-1.72 MB). Please don't write noone. It's as irritating as Your right. But the Internet seems to be changing our spelling. Diskettes are no longer important, but there are lots of variations in CD, DvD, and HD DvD capacity. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.
How is everybody dealing with this anyhow? Testing procedures include a determination that TELNET and other remote log-in commands are not available for use internally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
Tom, Don't forget the ten releases of OS/390. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux Also, z/OS is the current evolution of the original IBM operating system that came out in the 1960s. It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS. Over the years it has continued to improve and keep up with the times. LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Damaged Catalog Alert
A head's up to the non-ECS shops regarding OA19870. IBM just reopened my ETR query on this APAR with the following update: I wanted to let you know that we will be changing the text of APAR OA19870 to now also include that this apar should be applied to systems that have catalogs with shareoptions (3,4). If you are sharing any of your catalogs, even without ECS, we are now suggesting that you apply the APAR. We've had to delay applying this maintenance until the end of August because of applications requirements. Our work-around was to remove all our catalogs from ECS until then. But this sounds to me like I'm still at risk for this problem even though we're no longer using ECS. If that's true, I'm not comfortable waiting until the end of August and I think I'm going to get the priority on this bumped up. thanks for the heads up! dd keller ** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Directions to IBM-Link 3270?
Hi, IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. I heard the list talking about the 3270 access to IBMLink, but could not find any instructions. Thanks in advance. Denis. Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
LOCATING THE JOB STEP PROGRAM OF ANOTHER ADDRESS SPACE
Hi, Is there a proper method for locating the Program specified on the EXEC JCL card from another Address Space ? I can locate the ASVT via the CVT. I can scan through the ASCBs and Command Scheduling Chain looking for a specifc job/procedure name. But what I would really like to locate is the Program Specified on the EXEC=pgm card from the JCL. I know I can always find the Programs in a DUMP via the Contents Directory. However I have not been able to trace that back to the ASCB or TCB or JSCB. I suspect this information is located in the JSCB but Where ? Does any one Now of a callable service or maco that will locate the Job Step Program for another address space ? What Control Blocks must I naviagate to locate the Job Step Program for another Address Space ? Paul *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Thanks Greg. So it basically as I figured. Everyone edits that reply to include just what is needed from previous posts. Ok, I can handle that. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv Tom, You might find this informative: http://www.planetmvs.com/ibm-main/faqp.html#rpost Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question about the listserv I have a question on the proper use of the IBMMain listserv. At times when I reply my reply is rejected because it contains an excessive amount of quoted material from previous posts. I don't have this problem with other listservs. What is the proper way to reply to a post on IBMMain? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?
Denis Gdbler wrote: IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. I heard the list talking about the 3270 access to IBMLink, but could not find any instructions. Point your TN3270 client to port 23 at 204.146.168.209 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLINK - Add AST item
I am unable to add items to AST. I get this error: Transaction error to: SSF request: UAP0 return code: 251 Before I open another IBMLINK issue, can others do this? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed
Why not check to see if XCFAS has its enqueue on the dataset? If so, it is... Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK - Add AST item
same error here: Transaction error to: SSF request: UAP0 return code: 251 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK - Add AST item
It has been broken all weekend. I got and still get the same results. I submitted a Feedback item Saturday but no reply yet. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 12:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBMLINK - Add AST item I am unable to add items to AST. I get this error: Transaction error to: SSF request: UAP0 return code: 251 Before I open another IBMLINK issue, can others do this? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?
snip IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. snip In addition to the IP address, you'll need an account Id and userid (which is different than ). Your SE/AE will have to get you these IDs, unless you already have them. Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:24:31 -0400, Jack Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not check to see if XCFAS has its enqueue on the dataset? If so, it is... Because XCFAS holds an ENQ for LNKLST data sets, not all LLA managed (which don't have to be in LNKLST). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Tom In the early days of my using the list I quickly encountered the problem of the rejection of a post so carefully and painstakingly constructed. I was informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble memory it may have been John Giltner - that I needed to discard the three lines starting For IBM-MAIN ... which the system slaps onto the bottom of each distributed post. As long as I do this, only some excessively verbose posts of mine - caused possibly by excessive quoting of some, one hopes, relevant technical material I happened to have created over the years and had the wit to retain - fall foul of the IBM-MAIN system - in transit that is! It's possible this point is covered in the FAQ to which you were referred but, taking a quick, glance I didn't spot it. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Question about the listserv Thanks Greg. So it basically as I figured. Everyone edits that reply to include just what is needed from previous posts. Ok, I can handle that. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv Tom, You might find this informative: http://www.planetmvs.com/ibm-main/faqp.html#rpost Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Question about the listserv I have a question on the proper use of the IBMMain listserv. At times when I reply my reply is rejected because it contains an excessive amount of quoted material from previous posts. I don't have this problem with other listservs. What is the proper way to reply to a post on IBMMain? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake! Was he still gainfully employed, afterwards? I've seen dismissal for less! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
In a message dated 7/30/2007 11:41:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: possibly by excessive quoting of some, one hopes, relevant technical material I happened to have created over the years and had the wit to retain - fall foul of the IBM-MAIN system - in transit that is! Definitely a Darren question. As LSOFT evolves, or fails to as the case may be, exits exist to control quoting, Attachments, length, Out of Office, SPAMalot and other forms of LIST misuse/abuse. These are adjusted/reevaluated as resources permit. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be? He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake! Was he still gainfully employed, afterwards? Of course he was. In fact, before he left, he was promoted to be the manager of that group! Sounds like government doesn't it? I've seen dismissal for less! Well, you know that only applied to us old, archaic, out of date, obsolete people. Not the new, cutting edge, people. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?
In a message dated 7/30/2007 11:41:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In addition to the IP address, you'll need an account Id and userid (which is different than ). Your SE/AE will have to get you these IDs, unless you already have them. Back during the IBMLINK to IBMLINK2000 conversion there was a Procedure that would synch the systems. After the flip and backout and restart of 3270 it may be that the same ACCT/ID works as before but you'd have to check or RESYNC if the IBMLINK were up ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS. You missed OS/390 (between MVS/ESA and z/OS). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
Oops. I guess I also missed the very first one - OS/360. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS. You missed OS/390 (between MVS/ESA and z/OS). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
This just came across my email as an example of some salaries for various (not necessarily DP) areas. It was amusing. Though I guess if we lost our technical skills and became a paper pusher we would be worth more ;-) Accountant $140k Architect $150k Assistant General Counsel $130k Business Development Manager II $100k CFO $220k Change Management Manager $125k Chief Operating Officer $175k Controller $145k Director$190k Director IT $150k -- Director of Design $150k Director of Engineering $120k Director of Financial Planning and Analysis $135k Director Product Engineering$130k Director Supply Chain $150k Director, Corporate Counsel $150k Director, Global Communications $140k Director, Human Capital Special Projects$125k Director, Internal Controls $140k Director, Marketing Communications $100k Director, Offline Marketing $165k Director, Sales Operations $120k EVP $190k Executive Director Online Sales $140k Global Director of Infrastructure $140k Manager, Customer Insights Research $100k Managing Director $300k Operations Director $132k Partner Manager $220k President / General Manager $205k President and CEO $250k Sales and Marketing Director - Americas $160k Senior Marketing Manager$145k Senior Technical Architect $120k Software Engineering Manager$135k- Sr. Product Manager $120k Strategic Sales Manager $190k SVP $250k Vice President, Business Development$170k VP - Operations $160k VP GM $190k VP Finance, North America $175k VP Marketing$160k VP of Monetization $170k VP of Online Marketing $120k VP of Sales and Marketing $175k VP Pharmacy Operations $215k VP Promotions $120k VP, HR $135k --- VP, Strategic Alliance Marketing$120K Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
looking at this I know why they want price cuts on hardware/software...PAY THERE SALARIES .. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
snip This just came across my email as an example of some salaries for various (not necessarily DP) areas. It was amusing. Though I guess if we lost our technical skills and became a paper pusher we would be worth more ;-) /snip Liz, how do I get elected to be President and CEO? :-) I can feel the money rolling in already. Thanks, Fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?
Hi Thank you for reading my post. Is there any way to practice mainframe related subjects without having one? for example is there any emulator which can emulate mainframe OS ,and VM in a PC? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?
Not for current versions of the mainframe software, but you can install Hercules and use Volker Bandeke's turnkey MVS 3.8 package. http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ and http://www.hercules-390.org/ Subject: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Jes spool deletion question
I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0), I see the following jobs .. those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume or the jobs. When I do a $dj'myjob' nothing appears. Thanks $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0) $HASP890 JOB(U432) 312 $HASP890 JOB(U432) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) 313 $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.1566) $HASP890 JOB(U585) 314 $HASP890 JOB(U585) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, but I can't find it. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LOCATING THE JOB STEP PROGRAM OF ANOTHER ADDRESS SPACE
Paul D'Angelo wrote: I suspect this information is located in the JSCB but Where ? Step information is where you'd expect it to be, in the Step Control Table (IIRC, mapping macro is IEFASCT). It's pointed to by the JSCB (either address, or a token to be resolved with SWAREQ). However, if you're going into other address spaces, you could hit it during a step change, in which case you might see misleading results. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....
Thank you all for your really nice and descriptive answers. One more question, Does IBM provides JDK for Zlinux machines? Which other vendor do this? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
My website of Choice for salary ranges is in SALARY.COM. The wizard is free and seems fair in its ranges. Lizette All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, but I can't find it. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
From: Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, but I can't find it. I don't have it, but you can get it here: http://tinyurl.com/htolh More links here: http://jobstar.org/tools/salary/sal-comp.php -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Jes spool deletion question
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:05:33 -0500, Melissa Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0), I see the following jobs .. those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume or the jobs. When I do a $dj'myjob' nothing appears. Thanks $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0) $HASP890 JOB(U432) 312 $HASP890 JOB(U432) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) 313 $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.1566) $HASP890 JOB(U585) 314 $HASP890 JOB(U585) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) How do you know those are JOBs (as opposed to TSU or STC)? Try $djq'myjob' insted of $dj'myjob' . Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLINK Down again?
I can't get in now. I get an internal server error message. Is it just me? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. -- Julius (Groucho) Henry Marx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395
Time to B and M at IBM again. Rampant incompetence. Bob, save the comments about how well 3270 is working. You don't need to rub it in to those of us who can no longer get it. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Down again?
Feeling no love here, either. Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems Services Division Computer Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Mark Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/30/2007 02:57 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject IBMLINK Down again? I can't get in now. I get an internal server error message. Is it just me? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Down again?
no, I got the apologies page as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Fletcher, Kevin wrote: Liz, how do I get elected to be President and CEO? :-) I can feel the money rolling in already. Thanks, Fletch Fletch: Consider yourself elected. (signed) honorary signer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Jes spool deletion question
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:05:33 -0500, Melissa Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0), I see the following jobs .. those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume or the jobs. When I do a $dj'myjob' nothing appears. Thanks $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0) $HASP890 JOB(U432) 312 $HASP890 JOB(U432) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) The jobs were HELD prior to completing output processing. Most likely $HJ () was issued while the jobs were executing. Try releasing the jobs $AJ(). They should then appear on the hard copy queue where you can purge them which will allow the spool volumes to drain. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Jes spool deletion question
Melissa, If you have SDSF, then you can see if the jobs completed output processing by doing an ST in SDSF, then issue SORT Q this sorts based on the QUEUE name. Then look for $MASCOMM BPXASSTC01409 OMVSKERN 15 EXECUTION $MASCOMM STC115 PRINT A 1 OPERLOG STC05346 OPERLOG 1 PRINT2 Usually if a job is held while it is executing you will see it between the last job on the EXECUTION queue and the $MASCOMM task. It will have OUTPUT where you see EXECUTION. All you need to do is either purge it here, or release it. Lizette I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0), I see the following jobs .. those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume or the jobs. When I do a $dj'myjob' nothing appears. Thanks $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT0) $HASP890 JOB(U432) 312 $HASP890 JOB(U432) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) 313 $HASP890 JOB(PNXLGLM1) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.1566) $HASP890 JOB(U585) 314 $HASP890 JOB(U585) STATUS=(AWAITING OUTPUT $HASP890PRIORITY=1,SYSAFF=(ANY) $HASP890SPOOL=(VOLUMES=(SPOOL1, $HASP890PERCENT=0.0030) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Down again?
He's dead Jim. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:18:01 -0500, Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. And you can run sub-capacity. Depending on how much of your machine capacity you use and how you manage your work load, this can save you significant money as well. Third party software will still be an issue. Negotiation skills are important there. Good Luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395
In a message dated 7/30/2007 1:59:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Time to B and M at IBM again. Rampant incompetence. Bob, save the comments about how well 3270 is working. You don't need to rub it in to those of us Oh, I had a tossing and turning moment... Where does HONE live these days? Surely if the CE's are having these connectivity issues somebody's gotta be locked and loaded on fixing the darn thing. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading the processor
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:31:22 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: With z/OS 1.8, you will be able to use an external time reference (NOT an ETR) and provide time services to your LAN (assuming a z/9 and I'm not up on model numbers these days, so a 2096 could be one). The 2096 is indeed a z9. Be careful about the ETR stuff. We just went through an exercise with IBM looking to dump our 9037-002. While IBM is quite happy pointing out you no longer need to purchase a $40K Timex to keep your machine synched with the rest of the planet, they aren't as quick to point out the firmware required to enable the ETR features is about $25K. At this point in time, it's about a 20 year payback to justify getting rid of the 9037. We'll revisit this the next time we do a machine upgrade. It's supposedly cheaper to order the box with the ETR firmware than to try to upgrade. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Chris Mason wrote: Tom In the early days of my using the list I quickly encountered the problem of the rejection of a post so carefully and painstakingly constructed. I was informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble memory it may have been John Giltner - that I needed to discard the three lines starting For IBM- MAIN ... which the system slaps onto the bottom of each distributed post. As long as I do this, only some excessively verbose posts of mine - caused possibly by excessive quoting of some, one hopes, relevant technical material I happened to have created over the years and had the wit to retain - fall foul of the IBM-MAIN system - in transit that is! It's possible this point is covered in the FAQ to which you were referred but, taking a quick, glance I didn't spot it. Chris Mason SNIP--- Chris, I find that a lot, some rules that are semi undocumented . IBM seems to be bullied around on here for not documenting items, the list owner should, IMO, document such things. In fact I have given up trying to find such rules as they seem to be applied at times rather non-uniformly. Darren, IMO has gotten better over the years in enforcing some rules other times it seeming is dependent on who bends the rules. I will leave it at that as I am sure there will be a barrage of comments. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395
On Jul 30, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: SNIP- Oh, I had a tossing and turning moment... Where does HONE live these days? Surely if the CE's are having these connectivity issues somebody's gotta be locked and loaded on fixing the darn thing. Probably still using the 3270 interface:) Ed \ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: Chris, I find that a lot, some rules that are semi undocumented . IBM seems to be bullied around on here for not documenting items, the list owner should, IMO, document such things. In fact I have given up trying to find such rules as they seem to be applied at times rather non-uniformly. Darren, IMO has gotten better over the years in enforcing some rules other times it seeming is dependent on who bends the rules. I will leave it at that as I am sure there will be a barrage of comments. Ed Oh give me a freaking break! Yeah, like I sit here and enforce the rules on Joe and not Bob, Harry, or Bill. That's just ludicrous, stupid, and insulting. Whatever rules (documented or not) are all automated. If my software sees certain phrases in the subject, that post is rejected. If it sees x number of footers, then I assume someone is quoting a quoted, quoted, quoted post, and it is rejected. If it sees excessive lines of signatures and footers, rejected. If it sees a post being resent by a braindead mailer, rejected. Some of these rules are not documented for a reason. The list does not need someone circumventing my software so they can post a me, too message and include 2000 lines of a quoted post. Ed, the last time you had an issue, I took to the time to research the problem and get back to you. You sent an email to the list with the following subject line: OT - Why can't we get these types of Out of Office messages? First, it was off-topic. Second, my software saw the phrase Out of Office in the subject line, took it to be an OOO message and rejected it. If there was another time where I had personally applied a rule based on who it was, please let me know and I will research that one too. I'm in ATL right now. But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. Darren -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
From: Darren Evans-Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of these rules are not documented for a reason. The list does not need someone circumventing my software so they can post a me, too message and include 2000 lines of a quoted post. This seems like a proper application of OCO to me... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
I'm in ATL right now. But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. Darren Wouldn't it be better for EVERYONE on the list, if you would add Gould to your scan software and reject everything. I know my Trash box wouldn't be soo full. Tom Savor Fidelity National Information Services 11720 Amber Park Drive Suite 500 Alpharetta, GA 30004 Phone: 678-867-8431 cell: 404-660-6898 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message contains information from Certegy, Inc which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify by e:mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Darren Evans-Young wrote: Oh give me a freaking break! Yeah, like I sit here and enforce the rules on Joe and not Bob, Harry, or Bill. That's just ludicrous, stupid, and insulting. Whatever rules (documented or not) are all automated. If my software sees certain phrases in the subject, that post is rejected. If it sees x number of footers, then I assume someone is quoting a quoted, quoted, quoted post, and it is rejected. If it sees excessive lines of signatures and footers, rejected. If it sees a post being resent by a braindead mailer, rejected. Some of these rules are not documented for a reason. The list does not need someone circumventing my software so they can post a me, too message and include 2000 lines of a quoted post. Ed, the last time you had an issue, I took to the time to research the problem and get back to you. You sent an email to the list with the following subject line: Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and asked why. I never heard back. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Darren, snip But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. /snip Please don't. I have had an occasional post rejected due to forgetting to remove the footers and when I do, I just clean up the message and resend it. I probably speak for 99% of the people on the list when I say that I appreciate the efforts you do to keep the garbage off the list. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Hi all, We are guests in the home of Darren, Ed, UA. House rules are always the last word. Darren does a lot of work on IBM-MAIN that I am sure is not in his job description and I don't expect he gets any slack on everything that is. I find Darren's extra work make the list more usable. It is a very noisy list already if he were not actively working to screem some of the garbage out it might become useless. Darren please know we appreciate all the work! Just ignore Ed the rest of us have been doing that for a long time...Thanks for the constant upkeep on IBM-MAIN! Thanks, Sam -Original Message- snip But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. /snip I find that a lot, some rules that are semi undocumented . IBM seems to be bullied around on here for not documenting items, the list owner should, IMO, document such things. In fact I have given up trying to find such rules as they seem to be applied at times rather non-uniformly. Darren, IMO has gotten better over the years in enforcing some rules other times it seeming is dependent on who bends the rules. I will leave it at that as I am sure there will be a barrage of comments. Ed This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Wouldn't it be better for EVERYONE on the list, if you would add Gould to your scan software and reject everything. There are three senders that I never see anymore. One talks about all the conspiracies. One is very bitter and pedantically corrects everybody. And, the third quotes a web-site wherein they did everything on the mainframes first. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and asked why. I never heard back. I have no record of an email from you about being rejected...I save everything. The last personal email from you was about the Out of Office issue. That was on July 2nd. On July 8th, you were rejected because your email came from your old ameritech email address. But I never heard from you personally. Darren -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
Amen!! And please accept my personal thanks, Darren. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv Hi all, We are guests in the home of Darren, Ed, UA. House rules are always the last word. Darren does a lot of work on IBM-MAIN that I am sure is not in his job description and I don't expect he gets any slack on everything that is. I find Darren's extra work make the list more usable. It is a very noisy list already if he were not actively working to screem some of the garbage out it might become useless. Darren please know we appreciate all the work! Just ignore Ed the rest of us have been doing that for a long time...Thanks for the constant upkeep on IBM-MAIN! Thanks, Sam -Original Message- snip But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. /snip LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395
In a message dated 7/30/2007 3:02:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably still using the 3270 interface:) Ed Nah, using the fancy fones with the small LCD display. Tinier than a mod-1... ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:49:53 -0400, Knutson, Sam wrote: Just ignore Ed the rest of us have been doing that for a long time... That's pretty harsh. And untrue. Many of us have learned from Ed's recollections and his contributions to historic threads have been useful. One of his contributions was just recently brought up again in regards to SHARE in looking for snubbing targets and the fine art of snubbery. I always thought I would be happy just finishing my life knowing I made a contribution. Just think if I were able to go down in history as inventing an activity that carries on for generations !!! Think about it. When was that first mention of snubbery ??? I could look it up in the archives, but I'm on a roll and don't want to lose my train of thought. This could be the start of a new genre of posts. The next time IBM Link quits working or sun spots disrupt your radio station signal, send a post with the subject Darren's Picking On Me Again and we'll have some fun. You just never know when you can make history. Let's try to keep it civil and have as much fun as possible. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
- Original Message - From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Question about the listserv I was informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble memory it may have been John Giltner - that I needed to discard the three lines starting For IBM-MAIN ... which the system slaps onto the bottom of each distributed post. I have found this to be true also, through trial and error. Regards, Dean -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
In a message dated 7/30/2007 4:09:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amen!! And please accept my personal thanks, Darren. As we gray, we'll be looking for a new list owner eventually. If you've never tried it, it's sincerely aggravating. Having to put up with the whining and moaning 'cause it's not the way they do it over on list or don't do this or that. IBM-Main had been here since 6 June 1986 and has struggled thru numerous OS's and Lsoft upgrades. To my knowledge there's never been a pointer at an individual. It's blanket rules, subject to change as the software sea ebbs and flows. Decisions as to what to keep and how to keep are at Darren's discretion. In the big picture it's grown into a fairly respectable place to get or report Mainframe related topics affecting business, individuals and .EDUs. The mix of developers internal and external make it fairly unique place to plant and sow ideas and knowledge. I've sure learned a lot and bit my tongue 'cause somebody had an idea I'd though of but never got around to. Long may she wave.. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395
I decided to take a bit of action. Here is the email I sent to Mr. Palmisano: - For years the mainframe was THE machine to have because it worked. Lots of effort went into that, one of the things being that from release to release the quality (RAS) had to improve for hardware as well as software. Now IBM has decided to dump a system that was solid - the 3270 based IBMLink to go to a web based system that just can't seem to run for any length of time without crashing. It has been down all day today. It is IBM's preferred method of problem reporting, but it is unstable. I thought you might want to know that this is becoming a bone of contention among SHARE members. - So gripe here all you want. You can use the IBM web site to make your own comments: https://www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/email-sjp.pl Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Anyone from Shelter Insurance on the list?
If so, please contact me off list. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
100 % agree Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: question about the listserv
There is an Italian word, 'dietrologia', that I have mentioned here before. 'Dietro' means 'behind', both literally and figuratively, in Italian; and dietrologia is the pseudo-science of what is really going on in the world, what always sinister machinations lie behind appearances. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA _ http://newlivehotmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: sysprog demand
I call it capitalism at it's worse. Pure greed!!! r hey wrote: Search on Z/OS or ZOS or OS390 or OS/390 on the site www.monster.com there is over 400 jobs, But if 500 are looking for jobs 100 have not worked for over 1 year, SPs are forced into retirement at 50, then that's not much of a demand. I should have used the term 'shortage' not demand. hire people from other countries. It happens in Poland. If 1 SP was hired from outside 3 years ago no jobs out there for over 6 months, then there is no 'shortage'. In mid 80s, one site in OZ hired 8 M/F people from South Africa paid for relocation/visa/etc, also one could find a job in 3 months then, because there was a shortage then. Based on this, I'd say there isn't much demand in Australia, US, west-EU for sysprogs. Or you were not looking to much. When the agencies say they only hire people with EU passport; or in case of Swiss, it takes 2 months to get a visa but client wants someone now, to me this means 'no shortage'. Regards, Rez Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about the listserv
On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Darren Evans-Young wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and asked why. I never heard back. I have no record of an email from you about being rejected...I save everything. The last personal email from you was about the Out of Office issue. That was on July 2nd. On July 8th, you were rejected because your email came from your old ameritech email address. But I never heard from you personally. Darren: Here is the partial copy of the email I sent to you: Darren, Is there a problem? Ed The enclosed message, sent to the IBM-MAIN discussion list, has been rejected because you are not authorized to send to the list from this account. Please check your current subscription address and make sure you are sending from that exact address. If you need assistance, contact the IBM-MAIN list owner. Account: ibm-main-request Hostname: bama.ua.edu Message Rejected -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
