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Okay, sounds interesting. Do you have an concreate ideas on a design for
such a beast?
--jason
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Matt Munz wrot
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PI is good for IDE integration --
> one of their goals. Of course, this assumes that politics is not an
> issue...
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Probably not:-)
My idea involved a complete rewrite of ant as a bunch of mbeans, using as
much jmx functionality as poss
Matt
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Can you explain the Ant MBean thing to me please.
--jason
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Why is it that evry time I make the build system easier/faster/beter that
you start bitching at me with non-sensical dribble?
> Absolutely, Scott is right RE: un-necessary complicated stuff that makes
> NO sense to a reader and serves an obscure goal.
I am convined that anything that I do you
son
> Dillon
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> The ant committers are all insane.
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> --jason
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> > FWIW I
are interested I can talk to Xandy.
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> I am thinking about how to do this.
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> --jason
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>
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Scott M Stark wrote:
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> > Less mysteriousness, as in:
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> >depends="_buildmagic:init">
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> > I would like standard Ant + JBoss custom Ant tasks + scripting? all
> > manifest in the build.xml
/web/xml
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> HTH,
> James
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The ant committers are all insane.
--jason
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
> FWIW I think ant cou
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The problem with writing build components in Java is that the maintenece
process is slow and difficult, and only a select few can currently perform
this.
Perhaps if the build compon
> Other then that I think we should use the parallel task in the testsuite
> to speed up the xdoclet and jar tasks. I'm not sure if it would really
> speed it up but doing a one-test takes forever because of the xdoclet
I made the output (jar) tasks run in parallel. I can not make the xdoclet
gt;
> HTH,
> James
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From: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> If I send you an example .xml file can you send me a basic skeleton
> stylesh
h blah.
> > marc f
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Sorry for the delay...
> Probably the biggest annoyance I have with using a sub-module is that
> the ${project.root} property within the sub-module ends up including the
> module above it instead of being the actual project root, so I have to
> define my own local ${project.root.local} property i
d env, but thought I'd throw this
> > out for you and others that may want to know how we are using XSL + Ant.
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> > James
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> > >
I agree... but the trick is to accomplish this and still keep the build
files simple, small.
I am thinking about how to do this.
--jason
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Scott M Stark wrote:
> Less mysteriousness, as in:
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like standard Ant + JBoss custom Ant tasks + scripti
Sounds like a good idea. I will set this up when I get to fixing the
snapshots.
--jason
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> I think it would be cool (which means it is not a formal request) to be
> able to have some tasks that can build the javadocs and push them to our
> webserve
Right, we can publish all of the build documentation.
--jason
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, David Jencks wrote:
> I agree. Having them posted might encourage people to make them more
> accurate and comprehensive.
>
> The xdoclet-generated todo list would be good also. This is now generated
> by the
umented... I didn't find it on their
> > website.
> >
> > --jason
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> >
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> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 4:15 PM
Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 PM
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> > I had looked into this, making a custom task, but dropped it... why... I
> > can't remember.
> >
> > I think that making use of the script task would be a good idea. I have
> > been thinking about using
Jason Dillon
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> > The problem with writing build components in Java is that the
> > maintenece
> > process is
nteresting. We could run a ANT-like MBean and blah blah blah.
marc f
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The problem with writing build components in Java is that the maintenece
process is slow and difficult, and only a select few can currently perform
this.
Perhaps if the build components were made into a included module this would
different... I am undescided as of yet to which is
better/easie
Sorry to post to this list but I'm currently dealing with this issue in
my own project and thought it would be appropriate to comment. Also,
I'm not sure where to post any buildmagic related questions or if there
is such a place to do so.
We've recently switched to buildmagic. I've more recentl
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> This is exactly my point. This is the same thing that I am saying.
>
> > most of the work is setting up the components, not the basic
> functionality
> > testing. If there are truly module isolated functional
g XSL +
> > Ant.
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> > James
> >
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> > &
throw this
> out for you and others that may want to know how we are using XSL + Ant.
>
>
> HTH,
> James
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTEC
This is exactly my point. This is the same thing that I am saying.
> most of the work is setting up the components, not the basic
functionality
> testing. If there are truly module isolated functional tests, put
these in
> the module, but cross module testing belongs in a teststuite module
with
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> So all of the examples you list which depend
y want to know how we are using XSL + Ant.
HTH,
James
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> Can you fin
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> There seems to be an and an and I'm not completely
sure
> what the difference is or where the include task is.
Less mysteriousness, as in:
I would like standard Ant + JBoss custom Ant tasks + scripting? all manifest in the
build.xml files rather than hidden in corners of the build system.
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
I agree. Having them posted might encourage people to make them more
accurate and comprehensive.
The xdoclet-generated todo list would be good also. This is now generated
by the all build.
Along with the javadocs I'd like to suggest we work a little more on the
jmx-api docs I started on that b
I think it would be cool (which means it is not a formal request) to be
able to have some tasks that can build the javadocs and push them to our
webserver (of course you would have to authenticate by hand). It would
be nice if this were simple, so we can have (trusted) others post
results to
David Jencks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build file per
> testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/j
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On 2002.09.19 20:48:17 -0400 Jason Dillon wrote:
> > So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build file per
> > testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/jmx gets a build.xml)? Then
> the
> > testsuite/build.xml calls each of them?
>
> No, I am suggesting there be a testsuite in each
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> Okay, no worries. What don't you get? Which tests specifically are you
> thinking of when you say then "involve several function
> So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build file per
> testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/jmx gets a build.xml)? Then
the
> testsuite/build.xml calls each of them?
No, I am suggesting there be a testsuite in each module.
build/build.xml would be configured to recurse into
from small build files while keeping a single
> global javac task.
>
> david jencks
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> >
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taking some bit of knowledge for granted?
--jason
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> On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
> > Add -Dnojars=true during the run of the single test and zero compilation
>
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> Scott Stark
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> They'd probably
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> jbossmx already has its own module specific test suite rather than
> integrating with the jboss testsuite module so I would welcome the
change
> jason suggests where jboss testsuite integrates tests from ind
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> > > David and I talked about this
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> Scott Stark
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> JBoss Group, LLC
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I think that we can probably do this... such that any Ant (greater than
the supported version) would work... but it will require some effort to
figure out a way to allow scripts to share data.
I think that using the
s to build and run the
tests in
> the module.
>
>
> Scott Stark
> Chief Technology Officer
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> David and I tal
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> I had looked into this, making a custom task, but dropped it... why... I
> can't remember.
>
> I think that making use of the script task would be a good idea. I have
> been thinking about using
Jason,
> I have
> been thinking about using
> I think we should develop a new custom task to initialize the
properties
> and classpaths for the thirdparty packages. I wrote a hack to check
> that directories are available before calling the task that declares
the
> classpath. We could write a task that takes the dir name properties
to
> s
I think we should develop a new custom task to initialize the properties
and classpaths for the thirdparty packages. I wrote a hack to check
that directories are available before calling the task that declares the
classpath. We could write a task that takes the dir name properties to
set and
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