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- Matt
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Probably not:-)
My idea involved a complete rewrite of ant
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Can you explain the Ant MBean thing to me please.
--jason
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
On 2002.10.04 09:39:07 -0400 Matt Munz wrote:
David,
I forget -- were you the one that started
: Saturday, October 05, 2002 3:42 AM
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Okay, sounds interesting. Do you have an concreate ideas on a design for
such a beast?
--jason
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Matt Munz wrote:
Can you explain the Ant MBean thing to me please
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If I send you an example .xml file can you send me a basic skeleton
stylesheet
Other then that I think we should use the parallel task in the testsuite
to speed up the xdoclet and jar tasks. I'm not sure if it would really
speed it up but doing a one-test takes forever because of the xdoclet
I made the output (jar) tasks run in parallel. I can not make the xdoclet
: RE: [JBoss-dev] Build System... any ideas
The problem with writing build components in Java is that the maintenece
process is slow and difficult, and only a select few can currently perform
this.
Perhaps if the build components were made into a included module this would
different... I am
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The ant committers are all insane.
--jason
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
FWIW I think ant could be better
: Jason Dillon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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If I send you an example .xml file can you send me a basic skeleton
stylesheet with examples on how
I am thinking about how to do this.
--jason
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Scott M Stark wrote:
Less mysteriousness, as in:
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| Initialize the build system. Must depend on
'_buildmagic:init'.
| Other targets should depend on 'init' or things will
mysteriously fail.
to Xandy.
marc f
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Sorry for the delay
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The ant committers are all insane.
--jason
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
FWIW I think ant could be better replaced by a bunch of mbeans running
in
an mbean server. Basically task == mbean and target also == mbean
Why is it that evry time I make the build system easier/faster/beter that
you start bitching at me with non-sensical dribble?
Absolutely, Scott is right RE: un-necessary complicated stuff that makes
NO sense to a reader and serves an obscure goal.
I am convined that anything that I do you
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The ant committers are all insane.
--jason
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
FWIW I
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The ant committers are all insane.
--jason
On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, David Jencks wrote:
FWIW I think ant could be better replaced by a bunch of mbeans
running
in
an mbean server. Basically task == mbean
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Can you explain the Ant MBean thing to me please.
--jason
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Of David
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Probably not:-)
My idea involved a complete rewrite of ant as a bunch of mbeans, using as
much jmx functionality as possible. This was based on the observation that
the ant
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I think we should develop a new custom task to initialize the
properties
and classpaths for the thirdparty packages. I wrote a hack to check
that directories are available before calling the task
. We could run a ANT-like MBean and blah blah blah.
marc f
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The problem with writing build components in Java is that the
maintenece
process is slow and difficult, and only a select few can
currently perform
this.
Perhaps if the build components were made into a included
thing.
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
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On 2002.09.19 19:32:25 -0400 Scott M Stark
Right, we can publish all of the build documentation.
--jason
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I agree. Having them posted might encourage people to make them more
accurate and comprehensive.
The xdoclet-generated todo list would be good also. This is now generated
by the all
Sounds like a good idea. I will set this up when I get to fixing the
snapshots.
--jason
On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
I think it would be cool (which means it is not a formal request) to be
able to have some tasks that can build the javadocs and push them to our
webserver
I agree... but the trick is to accomplish this and still keep the build
files simple, small.
I am thinking about how to do this.
--jason
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Less mysteriousness, as in:
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Can you find any more info about using xslt or velocity as a
preprocessor to the build files? I think this might be a
good idea, but just
Sorry for the delay...
Probably the biggest annoyance I have with using a sub-module is that
the ${project.root} property within the sub-module ends up including the
module above it instead of being the actual project root, so I have to
define my own local ${project.root.local} property in
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The problem with writing build components in Java is that the
maintenece
process is slow and difficult
, it will produce a file called
autogen-build.xml in src/web/xml
HTH,
James
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If I send
Sorry to post to this list but I'm currently dealing with this issue in
my own project and thought it would be appropriate to comment. Also,
I'm not sure where to post any buildmagic related questions or if there
is such a place to do so.
We've recently switched to buildmagic. I've more
I think it would be cool (which means it is not a formal request) to be
able to have some tasks that can build the javadocs and push them to our
webserver (of course you would have to authenticate by hand). It would
be nice if this were simple, so we can have (trusted) others post
results to
I agree. Having them posted might encourage people to make them more
accurate and comprehensive.
The xdoclet-generated todo list would be good also. This is now generated
by the all build.
Along with the javadocs I'd like to suggest we work a little more on the
jmx-api docs I started on that
Less mysteriousness, as in:
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| Initialize the build system. Must depend on '_buildmagic:init'.
| Other targets should depend on 'init' or things will mysteriously fail.
--
target name=init unless=init.disable depends=_buildmagic:init
/target
I would like standard Ant +
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There seems to be an import and an include and I'm not completely
sure
what the difference is or where the include task is. The import might
get
into ant
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Okay, no worries. What don't you get? Which tests specifically are
you
thinking of when you say
are using XSL + Ant.
HTH,
James
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Can you find any more info about using xslt or velocity
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So all of the examples you list which depend on other modules to
function
This is exactly my point. This is the same thing that I am saying.
most of the work is setting up the components, not the basic
functionality
testing. If there are truly module isolated functional tests, put
these in
the module, but cross module testing belongs in a teststuite module
with
.
HTH,
James
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Can you find any more info about using xslt or velocity as a
preprocessor
and others that may want to know how we are using XSL +
Ant.
HTH,
James
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This is exactly my point. This is the same thing that I am saying.
most of the work is setting up the components, not the basic
functionality
testing. If there are truly module isolated functional tests, put
these in
the module, but cross module testing
that there are
alternatives to adding another language to the build system.
- Matt
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I
: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 10:29 PM
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I had looked into this, making a custom task, but dropped it... why... I
can't remember.
I think that making use of the script task would be a good idea. I have
been thinking about using script todo most
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David and I talked about this on the way back from
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David and I talked about
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Anymove that restores that ability to run our build in Ant aware tools
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David and I talked about this on the way back
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David and I talked about
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David and I talked about this on the way back from Tahoe. I
would
like
to revisit the entire TestSuite, putting a testsuite in each
module,
which would perform Unit tests for components and parts of
components
for that module
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They'd probably solve the problem of 7 minutes to build to run
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On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
Add -Dnojars=true during the run of the single test and zero compilation
time is the result.
Umm, yes, I know about
for granted?
--jason
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I still don't buy it. Many
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On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
Add -Dnojars=true during the run of the single test and zero
compilation
time is the result.
Umm, yes, I know about nojars, I wrote it.
It doesn't
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On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
Add -Dnojars=true during the run of the single test and zero
compilation
time
So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build file per
testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/jmx gets a build.xml)? Then
the
testsuite/build.xml calls each of them?
No, I am suggesting there be a testsuite in each module.
build/build.xml would be configured to recurse into
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Okay, no worries. What don't you get? Which tests specifically are you
thinking of when you say then involve several functional modules?
Just one for an example, so I can
On 2002.09.19 20:48:17 -0400 Jason Dillon wrote:
So are you suggesting that there be, more or less, a build file per
testsuite directory (e.g. org/jboss/test/jmx gets a build.xml)? Then
the
testsuite/build.xml calls each of them?
No, I am suggesting there be a testsuite in each module.
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On 2002.09.19 18:05:46 -0400 Scott M Stark wrote:
Add -Dnojars=true during the run
I think we should develop a new custom task to initialize the properties
and classpaths for the thirdparty packages. I wrote a hack to check
that directories are available before calling the task that declares the
classpath. We could write a task that takes the dir name properties to
set
I think we should develop a new custom task to initialize the
properties
and classpaths for the thirdparty packages. I wrote a hack to check
that directories are available before calling the task that declares
the
classpath. We could write a task that takes the dir name properties
to
set
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