RE: [lace] photography

2004-02-02 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Steph Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Windows NT is also very unlikely to work with any current camera, as all the one's I've seen use USB and Windows NT cannot do USB.<<< There's still the Mavica type cameras. The older Mavicas recorded directly onto floppy disk, so you didn't need any

RE: [lace] Val. Mus.Coll/lace collecting

2004-01-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps the IOLI, as the only American lace organization should try to reach out to collectors as well. Historically, it was a club for collectors as well as makers, but that seems to have declined, perhaps with collecting itself. <<< Funny how

RE: [lace] Oya books

2004-01-23 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There has been a change in the translation of the word OYA from what we know in books published in the West. I think of OYA as a specific type of knotted lace from Armenia, which spread to other Mediterranean countries.<<< What I was taught is

RE: [lace] Oya book on eBay

2004-01-23 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Avital Pinnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't realise that there were so many ways of making beaded oya. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3582414435&ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 I bought another book from this dealer (elfocan) and one from another Turkish dealer. The

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-22 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>The bit I liked best about this one is Robin's confidence that the first piece of lace will be finished, leaving the pillow and bobbins free for the second class.<<< Oh, that's hilarious! I've been crowned Queen of Unfinished Projects! Last time I finished something (other than a gift), my f

RE: [lace] Dover winter sale

2004-01-21 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only one lace book listed, but it's an interesting one for those who like to design or "meddle" with existing patterns...<<< http://www.doverpublications.com/winter_sale/ws_nc.html Personally, I consider Cook and Stott's "Book of Bobbin Lace St

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Clive and Betty Ann Rice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. It is very tiring for some of us, regular supporters of IOLI and attendees of past Conventions, with chronic illness plus some years under our skin, to go for 6 hours a day when the classes could have been scheduled 3 hours a day for 4

RE: [lace] Modify an old pattern to a new pattern

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to reproduce this edging in a circular format. How might I go about doing that? <<< It's reasonably easy to copy the design onto polar coordinate graph paper. This is graph paper arranged in a circle, so the "vertical" lines of the

[lace] RE: Convention planning

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
One thing that was useful when planning an ornithological convention was that the organization kept a set of files that were passed from one local committee to the next. It included budgets (including who you got quotes from), what you decided to do (and, generally, why), and a post-event self-eva

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-16 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have never seen the limits on the vendor rooms either...if you take a short class, you can only go in on the day of your class!! <<< This seems poorly thought out to me. If I'm taking class all day, that doesn't leave much time to shop! I

RE: [lace] Salesman's lace samples on ebay

2004-01-16 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's a folder of Honiton and Point lace samples on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3267453133&category=114 <<< This looks like the tapes for Battenberg-style lace-making. Jane VS, check them out--some are really fancy!

[lace] RE: teaching stitches (was: lacey weekend)

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>when teaching the basing 3 stitches (half/CT;whole/cloth/CTC; double half/CTCT), which is the easier route to go, when it comes to teaching half and double half? Ie which one is easier to learn first? <<< So many people are intimidated by half stitch, that I'd save it for last. It's so easy t

RE: [lace] Travelling with Pillows

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like an over-large brick, on its end, and opens out so that the actual apron bit (where the bobbins actually sit whilst work is in progress) is larger than an 18" pillow would be. <<< I have one of these SMP travel pillows and really lik

RE: [lace] Luton Lace Treasury Vol 1

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Sue Babbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The patterns are stunning, and the prickings and diagrams are so clear. The lace is so beautifully worked.<<< I haven't seen the book yet, but I know from Sally's contributions to the NELG newsletter that yes, she makes excellent prickings and diagrams.

RE: [lace] lace pattern with hearts

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have tried to create the pattern myself from a pattern that I found for a round doily but I have not been able to create the corners. Now, I am running out of time and need to find a pattern. <<< If you like that pattern, use it without fabricated corne

RE: [lace] Re: Big finishing for lace project

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Viv Dewar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd ask the framer to use non-reflective glass too. (I've never framed lace, but that's what I used in pre-BL days for cross stitch). It cuts out some of the glare & IMO is worth the extra cost<<< Personally, I don't like non-glare glass. It's got a ti

RE: [lace] eBay bobbins

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
Ah, this guy is back, or it looks like it's the same guy. Be warned, he uses the same photo every time he lists bobbins, and you don't necessarily get the same assortment as in the photo. You do get 10 assorted antique French bobbins, and the photo is representative of the shapes and sizes, but

RE: [lace] Item on E-bay

2004-01-09 Thread Panza, Robin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2586669105&category=39445 In the description it says that it is very likely from the Island of Malta. It may well be from the island of Malta. There are many lacemakers on Malta who do not make Maltese lace. A couple of years ago, there was a "

RE: [lace] ...and ? about Maltese lace

2004-01-08 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Celtic Dream Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I now have this pair of bobbins a thought occurred to me...I don't think I have run across any patterns for Maltese lace. Have I been blind or what...did I miss something over the past few years>>> That was me sitting next to you,

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-07 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm all for labour-saving steps - I seldom pre-prick a pattern, but if I do, it is when the pricking is in place on the pillow. >>> There are times it becomes pretty important. For example, I find it very hard to get pins accurately placed on roller p

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-06 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Karen Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Similarly, the inexpensive polystyrene pillow I bought to try Honiton developed a hole in the centre. It is still usable, with pieces of green baize packing the hole, but as I've since bought a traditional Honiton pillow, it is only used occasional

RE: [lace] Re: Pricking on the pillow

2004-01-05 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>You don't view yor pricking from the same angle when you prick on a corkboard set flat on a table and when you prick on a pillow; you're less likely to be *accurate* when pricking on a pillow. <<< I'm not convinced this is necessarily so. M

RE: [lace] Strangled Picots

2003-12-15 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Patricia Dowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How do you all make nice graceful picots? Single thread, double thread, Flanders? Would a larger pin make a better picot? Sigh . . . <<< Some people do use a larger (sometimes, much larger) pin, or two pins. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

RE: [lace] Re: famous lacemakers

2003-12-15 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Some of the men associated with lacemaking were designers, and one of them (Thomas Lester) could be considered famous, if only in lacemaking circles... <<< One thing nobody's mentioned yet--in those days, it was rare for a woman to own a compan

RE: [lace] Translation, please

2003-12-12 Thread Panza, Robin
I agree with David. I have "Maikafer", "Shmetterlinge", "Schwartzarbeit", the snowflake book, and a couple of others, and have only used the diagrams. They are excellent--both detailed and clear. I've never had any concern about the text. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA -Original Mes

RE: [lace] Working on the right/wrong side

2003-12-11 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But what if, instead of "lifting the left", I were to "raise the right"? The number of twists before and after might need to be adjusted, of course, but, would it "flip" the lace so that one'd be facing the wrong side (flatter gimp) instead of the

RE: [lace] Re: "Cornered" Waterlily

2003-12-08 Thread Panza, Robin
It's not that *corners* are all that modern an invention, just corners for lace made on *non-square grids*. Corners are not as old as the oldest laces, but corners on the laces that could be easily turned do go back a ways. Modern (last 50 years) lacemakers have designed corners for many of the t

RE: [lace] another new person

2003-12-03 Thread Panza, Robin
Welcome newbies, one and all! There's no proficiency requirement for membership, just a love of lace in any of its forms. By all means, ask questions (how else will you learn?) and post opinions and answers when you have them. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA -Original Message- Lo

RE: [lace] thimble for lacemaking

2003-11-28 Thread Panza, Robin
Several options: (B (BQuilters have a similar problem, and a good place to find a solution is in a (Bstore that sells quilting supplies. One of my favorites is a very thin (Bleather thimble, with a metal disk embedded where the pins/needle would (Bstick. There are thick-leather thimbles, too

RE: [lace] Re: Thread question

2003-11-25 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you like making lace, you might as well bite the bullet and make the best investment of your life; buy Brenda Paternoster's booklet "Threads for Lace; edition 2" <<< Many of the US lace suppliers have carried the first edition of Brenda's bo

RE: [lace] Square bobbins in UK

2003-11-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Annette Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Parsons does them. They're not on his website or in his catalogue, but if you phone him, he'll send them. http://www.lace-bobbins.co.uk/index.html phone 01373 812023)<<< Mail from US to India can't be all that much more expensive than UK to

RE: [lace] Admin: Digests and subscription help

2003-11-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Avital Pinnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Then I can send the commands directly to majordomo, instead of having to download the latest subscription lists for a look or guessing at the various permutations and hoping that one of them will work.<<< And most subscription changes we can do our

RE: [lace] Spangle Question

2003-11-19 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Aurelia L. Loveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, I can't agree with you, Robin, that Christine Springett's spangles are "loose and floppy." I have dozens of her bobbins, and they are perfect. If there were anything the matter with them (and there isn't), it would only be that we amateur sp

RE: [lace] Spangle Question

2003-11-18 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Shirlee Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm thinking the answer might be "do whatever makes you happy," but I'm wondering if there should be a certain weight to the spangle or if the weight matters at all ... <<< Weight does matter somewhat. Fine threads can be stressed by "heavy" bobbins

RE: [lace] comfort

2003-11-17 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Steph Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Put a glass of water in reach of where you sit to make lace (but not where it could be spilled on the lace). Make an effort to remember to drink now and then. <<< I use a soda bottle that has a screw-on lid. Granted, mine usually has soda in it, whi

RE: [lace] Kortelahti Pattern- how can I get it to lay flat?

2003-11-17 Thread Panza, Robin
Here's something I haven't seen anybody mention yet. Most of Kortelahti's ring-shaped patterns are very open work. Just because the paper doesn't lay flat doesn't mean the lace won't. The more open (less mesh) the pattern, the easier it is to get it to lay flat. You may have to block the lace a

RE: [lace] Re: lace-digest V1 #3852

2003-11-11 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>Females can be color blind too. It is not as commen, but a female friend of mine can only sees everything in shades of brown.<<< Tamara, you've been bemoaning the difficulty of using many colors, because you have trouble distinguishing among them. Yet you also say not to worry about the color

RE: [lace] Cross & Twist

2003-11-11 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Janis Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cross & Twist were denoted as X & OIt makes a very neat shorthand when taking down notes or explaining how to do a stitch.<<< It's all a matter of what works for the *notetaker*. For me, X would forever be confused--is that a right-over-left X o

RE: [lace] making cord

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: rick &sharon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can someone help me? I once had the directions for making a twisted cord out of embroidery threadDoes someone out there know how to do this? We're starting a class making lace amulet purses and I thought this would come in handy for the neck cord

RE: [lace] Re: a case against colour coding

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] an otherwise "innocent" honeycomb hole will have a CTCTT, instead of the CTT before the first pin (afterwards, it's business as usual)... An all black diagram -- unless it's a *thread by thread* one (and, personally, I don't wanna "go there" ) wil

RE: [lace] a case against colour coding

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] While colour coding might simplify matters for some, it complicates for others. And woe is the colour blind ;)<<< That worried me, too. We'd be shutting a chunk of people out of lacemaking if all our patterns stuck to a color code. Add to that the pr

RE: [lace] Twist and turn

2003-11-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I had some problems deciphering that (could be because I'm not a native speaker, and have to *stop and think* what the last letter of a word might be)...<<< No, just straight memorization. C= 2 over 3; N= 2 and 4 over 1 and 2. You don't need

RE: [lace] Re: Twist and Turn

2003-11-07 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jane K. Griffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps using a lower cast "t' for turn and an upper case "T" for twist? somewhat like writing out receipes using "t" for teaspoon and T for tablespoon.>>> Or use the US Postal Service's strategy when making state abbreviations. Use the last lett

RE: [lace] Colour codes

2003-11-06 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>I'm getting better at interpreting diagrams.<<< Great, because there are a whole lot more patterns with diagrams than with verbal instructions. The sooner you can get comfortable with the diagrams, the sooner the whole world of bobbin lace opens to you. Then you will graduate to the patterns

RE: [lace] glass bobbins

2003-11-06 Thread Panza, Robin
I, too, use glass bobbins. My first pair was a gift, or I'd have assumed they'd break too easily to buy any myself. In 10 years since I got my first pair, I've broken a couple of glass ones, but I've broken wood and bone ones, too. Yes, I wind the thread more times over itself before letting go,

RE: [lace] brass bobbins

2003-11-06 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a pair of brass bobbins, but they are too heavy to useI have used them for a gimp thread, but they don't hold much thread, and I rarely use them. - Just things to have, not use, really!! <<< I do use my brass bobbins, although not all

RE: [lace] Dissertation

2003-11-05 Thread Panza, Robin
There's going to be a fair bit of duplication by adding membership of many lace groups. Many of my friends belong to more than one "local" group, because that gives them access to more teachers/workshops/lace days or because they like the newsletter, and many belong to groups (local or national) o

RE: [lace] Slave-driving teachers

2003-11-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the same problem that we, in the UK have been moaning about for ages. The hours of worm bandages that have to be made before you are considered acceptable to move on to Torchon, then years of Torchon before beds etc.<<< I have this argument

RE: [lace] Roller pillows in the UK

2003-11-03 Thread Panza, Robin
Pat Hallam (Roseground) makes a travel pillow. Does it have a roller? Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that Rosemarie Robinson may do one - you can pick

RE: [lace] 40 BOBBIN LACE HANKIES FOR THE LOW PRICE

2003-10-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Helen Crews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'thought you might like to see this. Don't know how they got my address, but here it is. <<< Well, their bobbins are certainly inexpensive! They're very much like the antique French bobbins that were on eBay a few months ago--stout. The various de

RE: [lace] Re: CT and TC

2003-10-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It can be applied to passing the gimp (though I still tend to "lift the left", except when "in Flanders") <<< For me, passing gimp is always Twist Cross (plus whatever twists you want to put on the pair before and after the passing). The phrase

RE: [lace] Varigated thread

2003-10-27 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jane Viking Swanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I imagine I'll have to make my own varigated to get the effect I'm after but I'm wondering if there are some thicker threads (I think I'm using #80 tatting cotton, it's downstairs) with a short change in color. And what does everybody else thi

RE: [lace] CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Steph Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is much easier to leave hanging bobbins uncrossed, so there is a practical reason for this choice Now why change for a flat pillow is another interesting question, I'd like to know the answer.<<< I don't claim to know "The Answer", but my per

RE: [lace] CT and TC

2003-10-27 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Lorelei Halley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] All British lacemakers (as far as I can tell) do half stitch CT. Most, but no all, western Europeans do it CT. Most, but not all, central Europeans do it TC. Nearly all eastern Europeans to it TC.<<< I took a Skansk (Sweden) workshop from Marji

RE: [lace] Fw:

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Wow! 1,000 pieces of bobbin lace from all over former Soviet Union? Sounds like a spectacular exhibit. I wish I could go. Maybe some European Arachneans will be able to see it and report back to us. I think "static" may mean "permanent", as opposed to a temporary or travelling exhibit. Robin

RE: [lace] a new Arachnid from Italy

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: bianca rosa bellomo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I’m Bianca, a new Arachnid from Italy.. Hope to be useful in some way. ‘My field’ is ‘needle lace’ but I’m not an expert. Studying needle lace (Aemilia Ars in Bologna) I met Elisa Ricci and now the life of E.R and obviously lace history in the

RE: [lace] Springetts and Fountains etc

2003-10-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Christine and David Springett used to have a lace supplier business. She also designed patterns and taught, and he also turned bobbins. They ran a lace school (English Lace College, or something like that) and made videos, too. A few years ago, they sold off the lace supplier business, to a

FW: [lace] Looking For An Address

2003-10-21 Thread Panza, Robin
Kathy's email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] but I don't know that she has a catalog. Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com -Original Message- Can anyone give me the address for Shirley Gates & Kathy Kirchner? I'd like to get a catalog from them

RE: [lace] Re: Flanders Lace by Mary Niven

2003-10-21 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, Mary's book is excellent. The first and possibly the only book devoted to Flanders Lace, it was originally published by a subsidiary of Batsford's and has been out of print for a long time. However, I understood that the firm that bought ou

RE: [lace] Re: PIns

2003-10-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] years ago, and ex-Arachnean (Penny Boston), who studied microbe life in deep caves for NASA, took some pins with her and left them in one of the caves, to see what effect constantly damp and chilly environment would have on them. As I remember

RE: [lace] Re: Magnifiers

2003-10-20 Thread Panza, Robin
For fine (anything beyond 28 threads/inch) embroidery, I use magnifiers that clip to my eye glasses. I simply can't resolve the holes any more, and come up/down in the wrong hole too often. However, those focus too closely to use for BL. They're for work in-hand. This weekend I sure could hav

RE: [lace] 3-D edges

2003-10-17 Thread Panza, Robin
>>> I like to come up with ideas I have not seen yet, (I don't pretend to know everything about all the laces so someone might have done that before), but I am not sure how the lace community feels about innovation. <<< Well, the Milanese Lace Police can say it's not Milanese if you have an innova

RE: [lace] Hookies

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
1. Lenka Suchanek makes/sells bobbins for use with wire. They are the size of travel bobbins (e.g., a good bit shorter than average) with a metal eye screwed into the tip. I haven't used them, so can't comment on them. However, they are designed specifically for wire. The others, I believe, wer

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The pattern on my blog is one that takes up the entirity of my 24" pillow and moves really quickly - so it posed the problem of having to keep undoing and moving the acetate.<<< That's another advantage of the vinyl circle over cover cloths or

RE: [lace] Re: Men making Lace

2003-10-03 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What a sensible man Iain Biggins must be! Good on Him, I say!< Iain is not the only one.. Kenn Van Dieren (our "own" ) has also learnt<<< And don't forget that we have male Arachneans! Some may be strictly bobbin people, but others are lacema

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>I couldn't see the clear and pinned right on through it. You would think I would notice that the vinyl wasn't pricked -- Oh well.<<< B-D ! They do make colored transparent vinyl. My friend has rose. She can still see the design taking shape, but there's no mistaking where the cover is! The

RE: [lace] Liz's horseshoe thingie

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: W & N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have incorporated one of my old macrame rings (I knew I'd find a use for them eventually) into my drawcloth. <<< What a neat idea! However, I still prefer the kind we got in a workshop from Judy Zeiss. It's a clear vinyl circle with a small ci

RE: [lace] numbers

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The walk-in, store front option for lace vendors is one that they don't seem to take advantage of in America to any large extent. Is there even one vendor with a store front and regular hours? <<< Yes, there is at least. The Lacemaker, in Wa

RE: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?

2003-10-02 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Janice Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that's a thought... I have two travel pillows that pack up like a small bag and fit into tote bags but how about someone coming up with a backpack design that you can just zip open and get on with your lace!!<<< I saw one (Sonja, are you still on

RE: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?

2003-09-30 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>For a long time it has been very difficult for a girl to express a wish to do anything feminine. It has been OK if girls want to fly down mountain cliffs at 60 miles an hour on a bicycle, but absolutely not OK if they want to learn to crochet.<<< The fortunate flip side of this is that boys are

RE: [lace] Irish Lace

2003-09-26 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -I knew someone out there would know what Inishmacsaint lace was!! This List is the most wonderful resource ever!<<< But can anyone tell me how to pronounce Inishmacsaint? It is lovely, and it certainly is in the VGP style, but there's definite

RE: [lace] Working with silk thread

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Patricia Dowden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I have since discovered bug pins which would have made the whole process much, much easier. The bug pins are small enough that I would not have had the thread pinching problem.<<< One warning with insect pins--you *must* pre-prick your patt

RE: [lace] Working with silk thread

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
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RE: Re: [lace] Irish lace

2003-09-25 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>I found a brief description here: http://www.irishlacemuseum.com/inishmacsaint.html <<< Wow! It's beautiful! It's reminiscent of Venetian Gros Point, with similar florals and padded sections. I had no idea Ireland, which has other lovely laces, also had this. Thanks for the info! Robin P.

RE: [lace] lacemakers stool-Nottingham

2003-09-16 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I recall once that I forgot my lacemaking table for a class and Maria Provencher suggested I keep the pillow in my lap and elevate my feet on a stool, holding the pillow in the lap. She claimed that this was the way that it was always done in Be

RE: [lace] Price of everything - value of nothing

2003-09-15 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] People ask to buy an article at which you may have sat and worked 100 hours. I consider I am worth as a fairly skilled lacemaker at least 10 to 15 GB pounds per hour. So that would make the piece in labour costs at least 1000 GBP. No-one woul

RE: [lace] progression from the copyright discussion

2003-09-12 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jane Partridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] But maybe there are ways we could make it easier for those who wish to obtain a legal copy to identify who designed the pattern in the first place? (And I know I'm a terror for often simply putting JP or JMP and the year on my patterns!).<<< Well,

RE: [lace] amateur lacemakers

2003-09-11 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm more insulted by the term 'amateur lacemakers' - if they mean that I don't get paid then that is only true if we mean in money and I don't charge because no one could afford to pay me.<<< I'm perfectly happy to be called amateur. I make no effort whatsoever to ear

RE: [lace] Re: Thinking person's lace - what about Binche?

2003-09-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you know when you are demonstrating and someone says 'how do you know what to do' this is how I explain it - you work a bit, run out of bobbins so you work the bit you need to give you the bobbins.<<< The way I explain it is that I look for pinh

RE: [lace] Re: Thinking person's lace - what about Binche?

2003-09-10 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>It is difficult to explain, but here's an example - in the older patterns if there's a series of snowflakes around another element they would be evenly spaced with reference to that other element, even if it means taking them out of the straight lines of the snowflake ground. In the modern patte

RE: [lace] Publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know the best way of publicising, because 'lacemaking' doesn't only cover bobbin lace. People need to know that (bobbin lace at least - I'll never master tatting) is accessible to all at different levels from a simple braid to complex work like

RE: [lace] Why we do this - was Publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) Present - it was just right for the person 2) Technical achievement - 'that looks like fun' theory of lace making.<<< I'd add: 3) Beauty - oh, that's so lovely, I have to make it! Robin P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http

[lace] RE: publicity

2003-09-09 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If the "craft" -- as in "Mensa of the craft world" -- is so odious, how about "Mensa of the Applied Arts" instead? Jay Ekers kindly "resurrected" the term for me (it'd gotten lost in memory) but "Applied arts" would be the term that a book (at any

[lace] Kathy Kaufmann?

2003-09-05 Thread Panza, Robin
Does anybody have an email address for Kathy Kaufmann, the registrar for the Finger Lakes Lace Guild Lace Day? Robin Robin K Panza Section of Birds, Carnegie Museum of Natural History 4400 Forbes Ave. Pittsburgh PA 15213 USA phone: 412-622-3255 fax: 412-622-8837 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To uns

RE: [lace] Sprang

2003-09-05 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At any rate, I have no idea where I came across the instructions for this hammock, but it involved hanging everything from a support apparatus from the ceiling of the studio and rolling the completed parts on the main supporting bar as I worked down

RE: [lace] Polychrome de Courseulles

2003-09-03 Thread Panza, Robin
I thought I saw a third book on the subject at IOLI. Holly had the two mentioned by Jeri, but I thought Mayra (can't think of her company's name, she was in the far left corner as you entered the sales room) had the Bouvot book and a different alternative book. Of the three, it was Bouvot that I

RE: [lace] lace designs portfolio

2003-09-02 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Sue Babbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oooh! that looks fun! (but expensive) I wonder if Tess and the professor have this online? I'll have to look later when I have time > This looks like an interesting lot on ebay although it is not complete http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite

RE: [lace] confused about thread

2003-08-29 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Whitham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to my thread collection and found linen Goldchilds Nel 80/3, Nm 50/3, which at first I thought I could use until I decided that the B meant bomuld (cotton). Now I am really confused. Why the 2 numbers on the thread? Are linen and cotton threads n

RE: [lace] Wright's book, copyright etc

2003-08-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Brenda Paternoster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On the subject of Miss Channer's mat; copyright is the right to exactly reproduce. I believe that if you own a worked mat (from a purchased pricking), and then re-drew it from scratch using a suitable grid you would own the copyright on the new

RE: [lace] Miss Channer/enforcement issues (Soapbox)

2003-08-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Marcie Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, this is a sterling example of the flaw in the ridiculous length of copyright duration. Catherine Channer died in 1949 and Ruth Bean Publications is sitting on her work, making it unavailable to those Miss Channer devoted her time and talents t

RE: [lace] Miss Channer/enforcement issues

2003-08-28 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I prefer to make my original designs available through lace magazines, for the price of buying the magazine. <<< OK, we've been exploring copyright law through the hypothetical example of Miss Channer's mat. And Vivienne, I do believe most of the mess

RE: [lace] lace frog and "Paris before Binche?" (very long)

2003-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Does one have to master a certain kind of lace before beeing allowed to start with another? There was the question of "Paris before Binche" some digests ago.<<< That is the basic question, and there are two aspects to the answer. The first asp

RE: [lace] pin-headed bobbin (was: bobbin on ebay - alleviating ? )

2003-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Toni Hawryluk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > strength to the relatively fragile part, like steel rebar in pre-stressed > if the pin was put in after it splinter the neck of the bobbin? Either way - suppose the bobbin blank were to be soaked in water or oil, <<< You're still trying to make

RE: [lace] Old lace pillow and bobbins on ebay

2003-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
It looks to me like a Brazilian setup, but I've never actually seen one. We had a visitor from Brazil who told me about a bobbin lace region in eastern Brazil (a little south of the Amazon, I think). She said they used bobbins with nuts on the ends, and I think she said it was a "fat" pillow. Th

RE: [lace] Re: jumping around

2003-08-22 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You both speak from the deepest point of my heart. It is a nice idea to be a lace-frog.<<< I don't know, Ilske. To embroiderers (and some lacemakers), the frog stitch is *undoing* your work (rippit, rippit). So isn't a "lace frog" someone who has to unlace a lot? I th

RE: [lace] English translations

2003-08-21 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>How many of our English speaking countries publish catalogues or any other work in German, French, Italian or any language other than our own? And how many of us have learned another language? We rather arrogantly expect everyone else to learn English and pander to us.<<< Speaking only for myse

RE: [lace] personal lace renaissance (long and a bit chatty), pri ckings and bent pins; OIDFA in Prague

2003-08-21 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Julie Ourom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And then it occurs to me - do most lacemakers concentrate on mastering one technique (or perhaps working it until they lose interest) or do they dabble all over the place like I seem to be doing? <<< Congratulations on your lace renaissance! It's al

RE: [lace] washing dingy lace, quick fix

2003-08-21 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Depending on the lace, you can allow it to dry on a clean metal surface (place it dripping wet and at a slight angle to let the water drain away, it should dry reasonably flat on the metal surface). <<< I would recommend glass instead of metal. The ef

RE: [lace] Re: "Ancient" lace bobbins on ebay

2003-08-20 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > They're not old, vintage or antique, but "Ancient turned wood lace pillow bobbin". After nearly a week of living with people of 4 generations I've learnt that what's "ancient" to one person, is "my (teen) mother" to another... Applies, in spade

RE: [lace] Expense of London Shopping

2003-08-19 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I took that possibility into consideration, and gave her an area where she will cover a lot of tourist shopping and looking and not have to take a cab or bus. <<< The Tube (subway system) is inexpensive, and V&A, Foyles, Liberty, etc. are easy

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