RE: [lace] Lace Terms

2004-09-03 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Patricia Ann Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] a bobbin lace project that was a mix of Beds, Cluny and Torchon. He called it Bastard Lace! A kinder term, if someone has trouble with this one, is Hybrid Lace. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - To

RE: [lace] What is Stumpwork?

2004-09-02 Thread Panza, Robin
This brings up the question of purity and naming. If I use some Cluny techniques on a Beds pattern, is it still Beds? If I use torchon ground on a Bucks grid, is that Bucks point lace? If I mix crochet stitches in with detached buttonhole, is that needlelace? I agree that mixing techniques can

RE: [lace] A new pattern on my website

2004-09-01 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Brenda Paternoster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] At last I've got around to changing the pattern on my website - it's now the oval daffodil mat edging. http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/lace/pattern/lacepattern.html Thanks, Brenda, it's lovely. And it uses one of the techniques

RE: [lace] USO's

2004-09-01 Thread Panza, Robin
I have many, many patterns that I *really* do want to do, but I don't call those USOs because the chances of actually doing them is so slim. Even if I never found another pattern to catch my eye, and never went to another workshop, I still won't live long enough to do most of them. But there's

[lace] RE: another Bobbin Roll

2004-08-30 Thread Panza, Robin
I make slightly different bobbin rolls. To the best of my knowledge, I invented it for myself but you may use the idea. Start with: - two pieces of fabric, as long as you want it (I generally make them 18-24 long) and about 14-16 wide (you want at least 6, preferably 8 wider than the batting) -

RE: [lace] Ithaca Lace Days

2004-08-27 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane Viking Swanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm just wondering if anybody has heard about their classes at the Ithaca (NY) Lace Days? My notification came last night. I got Lohr's class on point ground butterflies. The pricking and photo of the class project came, too. It's

RE: [lace] Intent of copyright law

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
someone doesn't buy a book because then she will be unable to show the finished piece to her friends without getting permission from the author? As the one who has been most vocal on this point, I have to say again--there's never been any claim that you can't show your work to your friends.

[lace] one more thing about libraries and copyright

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
Libraries do have a special place in copyright law. But in addition, they are affected by the fact that borrowers aren't buyers. Many magazines and journals have two subscription rates. The rate for institutions (e.g., libraries) is often three or four times the rate for individuals. This is

[lace] Re: Magazine sharing

2004-08-26 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane Partridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is why several of the guilds have associate membership - another member of the household can have membership (usually restricted in some way) at a cheaper rate, because they will share the magazine of the main household member. Pittsburgh Lace

RE: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
Steph wrote: A completed piece of lace is a 'derivative work' from the pricking, and is subject to just the same copyright limitations as a straight copy of the pricking. Bev added: if a pricking is published with the intent that a reader would use it to produce a piece of lace, then the designer

RE: [lace] Pattern copyright

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
all those who purchase Family Circle magazine and the like for putting patterns in their magazine for just that purpose. If the magazine states its designs are for bazaar items, then that's tacit permission to use them for bazaar items. What if I bought yards and yards of fabric and made

RE: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-25 Thread Panza, Robin
But can putting a boasting picture, with proper credits to book and designer, on a non-commercial boasting website, really be described as *publishing* except in the very widest sense of the word, ie make generally known. Surely it's the modern equivalent of having it hanging on your wall where

RE: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-24 Thread Panza, Robin
For example, in the Milanese books by Read and Kincaid there are lots of Milanese braid designsCan I use these braids in my patterns (including patterns that are just a straight piece of braid for a bookmark g) without copyright infringement? If I draw diagrams by myself, can I put them on my

RE: [lace] large bobbins

2004-08-24 Thread Panza, Robin
If they're all-wood with a ring a glass seed beads, they're not all that heavy. I doubt you need to worry about the weight unless you're getting into finer than frog hair threads (like greater than 180/2). However, having bobbins of different lengths might bother you while making lace. It

RE: [lace] cross-stitch fabric

2004-08-24 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Weronika Patena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm looking for cheap linen fabric to put lace edgings on. What's the difference between cross-stitch fabric and normal fabric, and would it make any sense to put lace edgings on it? Fist off, I'm assuming you mean fabric centers for circular and

RE: copyright for scanning was [lace] Anna magazine

2004-08-23 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'No part of this publication may be reproduced...except for your own personal use' So, the reason I haven't broken copyright law is because I couldn't be bothered? I'm going to have to give myself a strong talking to No, it does allow for

RE: [lace] judging lace

2004-08-23 Thread Panza, Robin
a first place would only be awarded if the piece was of a high enough quality. So in a couple of catagories there was only one entry which got 3rd place because it was not 1st place quality. Well, as a quibbler of semantics, this bothers me. Awards for excellence may be based against an

RE: [lace] Fair Entries.

2004-08-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] the entries were limited to only those people who lived in that State. This, I feel would be one reason why they don't get many entries. Opening it up to anyone might get a greater response. State and county fairs were (and many still are) intended

[lace] diagrams (was Chantilly babble)

2004-08-18 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've just had a private message from Leonard (not yet answered; sorry g), musing on the advantages/disadvantges of diagrams. I agree with him up to a point: diagrams do clip our wings, and limit our imagination/flexibility; they ossify our lace,

RE: [lace] RE: lace-digest V2004 #269

2004-08-18 Thread Panza, Robin
From: purple lacer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If this seller wants to acquire the books and then scan them and then sell the CD, that would be perfectly fine. Using your scans is NOT!!! Tess, if I were you or the professor I think I would contact the seller and ask them to stop. State that your

RE: [lace] Variegated thread

2004-08-17 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Question is, what sort of patterns best suit variegated yarn? Cloth stitch or half stitch diamonds/trails? Big or little spiders? Sounds lovely! What are the colors? The elements that, IMO, best show off variegated threads are: - Cloth (CTC)

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention/Meeting

2004-08-17 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Carolyn Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] When I went into the meeting room I explained to the people who greeted me that I was a new member and would just like to sit in the back and observe, that I was there mostly to keep my friend company. I believe it's not a matter of secrecy.

RE: [lace] pins

2004-08-13 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Method might be relevant, so I say that I am using a big octogonal block pillowThe bobbins, all spangled Midlands, lie flat on my pillow while I work( ie hands-down). First of all, the threads looping over the top of the pins. Part of the

RE: [lace] Tina, the Little Lacemaker

2004-08-10 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Dr. Jo Ann Eurell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tina, the Little Lacemaker is a reprint of an early 1900's novel about a lacemaker. Yes, it is the same story that was published on the internet, but this time the Rocky Mountain Lace Group has added pictures of lace in the margins of the pages

[lace] IOLI Convention

2004-08-09 Thread Panza, Robin
I'm back from the IOLI Lace Convention. I have to say, anybody who didn't go missed a wonderful time. It was great being able to have a single class all day instead of having to bring twice as much equipment and switch between techniques every day. Sure, there were a few glitches, but no more

RE: [lace] Bailleul (was: Prague)

2004-07-30 Thread Panza, Robin
Oh, Sof, you must tell us all about it when you get home! That looks like such a wonderful lace meeeting. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ - From: Sof [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Me I was in Bailleul (France) in

RE: [lace] what to do with leftover thread on bobbins?

2004-07-30 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Weronika Patena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, I'll try that. As a beginner, I guess I'm just always worried about not having enough thread, and tend to end up with twice as much as I need. I was there once, and speak from experience--you need to learn to add a bobbin. It's not hard in

RE: [lace] fabric stiffener for lace

2004-07-30 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Bev Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] oh and a hint about putting stiffening goop on the ornaments - I have a small square of styrofoam (the cheap packing stuff) over which there is a piece of scrap fabric. Just to reiterate, in case anybody's considering trying the polystyrene (plastic

RE: [lace] what to do with leftover thread on bobbins?

2004-07-29 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Weronika Patena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Whenever I do a lace project, I end up with lots of thread left on the bobbins. How do you deal with this? Is it possible to figure out how much thread a project will take so that not much is left over? 1. Thread is not all that expensive.

RE: [lace] stiffening lace

2004-07-27 Thread Panza, Robin
Hi, first time here on the lace chat. I was wondering if any one could please tell me how they stiffen the lace book marks they have made I don't. It's been my experience that recipients of my bookmarks consider them too precious to use for most things. They admire them, and some have put

RE: [lace] travel pillows

2004-07-27 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Eileen Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. What kind of pillow do you travel with? (travel pillow?) 2. Do you use travel bobbins? 3. Is there any problem going through airport security with a million pins? I used to have two travel pillows. One I recently sold (I'm moving and *really* need to

RE: [lace] IOLI revised bylaws

2004-07-26 Thread Panza, Robin
I had no trouble getting in and looking through the twenty pages. It may be there are too many people trying to log onto the site at one time. Or perhaps it needs a very recent version of Adobe Acrobat to read it (I think I have v. 6). But it is there, honest! Robin P. Pittsburgh,

[lace] other ways to stack bobbins

2004-07-23 Thread Panza, Robin
I doubt any of these would work for 150+ pairs, but they do for 50-100. 1. Some people have fabric books that they put to each side of the pillow. They open to the last page, lay bobbins in there, flip the next page over them and lay more bobbins in there, etc. I do not get along with these

RE: [lace] Pattern lifting

2004-07-22 Thread Panza, Robin
Have you pinned down the pricking? When I pin down the corners (and longer sides, if necessary), the pattern can't ride up because the pins are holding it down. They're pushed all the way down flush with the pillow, so the threads won't catch on them. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

RE: [lace] Honiton boarder Pillows

2004-07-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: peter vilsack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can anyone clue me in- I would like to make a border for a hankerchief in Honiton lace and connect the motifs by pearl pin bars or needlelace bars(buttonhole) What I would do is make the all motifs first, and make a pattern with the motifs drawn in

RE: [lace] Straw bugs

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I found little mites walking around on the pillow, but I lifted the removable outer cover, and sprayed it with fly/bug spray,and that fixed them for a while. Every time I saw and I repeated the dose, and I have not seem them for quite a few years,

[lace] RE: lifting patterns

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You mentioned using a cookie pillow. Some of us have come to the conclusion that if your cookie pillow has a fairly high dome instead of being relatively flat, this causes more lifting of the lace. I find more trouble with patterns lifting on a

RE: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
Ethafoam, ...is not quiet!! I have found builder's foam (the kind of polystyrene with tiny bubbles in it) to be noisy, but have never heard anything when pinning into true ethafoam (polyethylene). just my humble opinion, Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

RE: [lace] Straw vs ethafoam

2004-07-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: nerakmacd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering which pillows you prefer, and why. I know that the ethafoam can become worn easier after much use with the pins. Is it the same with the straw, or does the straw tend to 'regroup' better after being used over and over with the pins. My

RE: [lace] survey of storage of lace pillows

2004-07-15 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Whitham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How many lace pillows do you have and how do you store them? Let's see. Many of the pillows are just around here and there with projects (UFOs) awaiting my attention. These include: 1. 24 cookie with Cantu (from a workshop) on the couch 2. Monster

RE: [lace] Judge Judy not alone!

2004-07-14 Thread Panza, Robin
have ALL got to wear jabots! Lacemakers, arise! As soon as I get nine committed jabot-makers, I will produce a pattern. 5-to-4 Floral Bucks/Torchon? I don't know, Aurelia, if you do it 5-4, you may be influencing the voting of the Supreme Court of this land! Will they have to vote along

[lace] re: framing question

2004-07-13 Thread Panza, Robin
Another tidbit about framing and humidity. Wood, paper, and cotton stuffing (cellulose products) have a strong control on humidity, even in well-sealed containers. I recently did some research on this topic (for natural history specimens, not lace). Specimen storage cases have good, but not

RE: [lace] Snood pattern hunt

2004-07-13 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Avital [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Most important thing to remember is not to make the elastic too tight or it will give your friend a blinding headache! A diameter (measured around, not across) of about 22 inches will fit most women. I don't understand this measurement. Diameter is across

[lace] IOLI roomie?

2004-07-13 Thread Panza, Robin
Is there anyone going to IOLI that needs a room-mate? I just now became able to go and there is room in classes I want (too many classes, of course!!), but staying alone at the main hotels would be prohibitively expensive. I'm a non-smoking female but am willing to share with a smoker. I do

RE: [lace] lace framing/conservation question

2004-07-12 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] They said that the lace needs to be exposed to air to keep it from drying out. What do you recommend? Our weather conditions are so different from Northern Europe, and the piece will be in my non air conditioned home, that I wonder if this

RE: [lace] Iron on patterns

2004-07-12 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Karisse Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What intrigued me was that the patterns were to be ironed on the pricking card like you would iron on an embroidery pattern to a piece of cloth. Has anyone tried this and how does it work out and do the markings come off the pricking onto your

RE: [lace] Sisters

2004-07-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Sue Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Malvary's posting mentioning that Jacquie is her sister raised in my mind, how many of us have sisters who make lace? I don't have a sister of any sort. However, my mother and I both learned bobbin lace at the same time. Well, she took a class, and I

RE: [lace] Romanian macrame

2004-06-29 Thread Panza, Robin
At 4:12 PM -0700 6/28/04, Janice Blair wrote: I saw some lace, mainly small pictures, for sale at the market on Havelska on Sunday but on Monday the vendors had changed. They had some Rumanian lace marked as macrame! From: Mary L. Tod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Janice, I've been told by a woman

RE: [lace] Bucks tablecloth (!) on ebay

2004-06-22 Thread Panza, Robin
Well, she fixed it. Now it says Definitely NOT Bucks Point. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ -Original Message- Hahaha! It makes me want to dig up my tambour hook and frame and make myself some Bucks point. g Now where did I put that economy-size

[lace] Sally Barry's books and lace

2004-06-21 Thread Panza, Robin
I just went to Sally's website (see below) to get ordering information for her two Luton lace books and found a neat surprise. At the bottom of her home page is an *unlabelled* web link. I clicked on it just to see what that was all about. It takes you to a picture of a spectacular piece of

RE: [lace] Hankies

2004-06-18 Thread Panza, Robin
Mary writes: Okay, here's a newby question asked to me by another newby, and it had me thinking. She found some pre-made linen hankerchiefs in her basement and wants to add a lace edging to them. I know to use cotton thread on cotton, or linen thread on a linen hankerchief. If I'm using a

RE: [lace] underground/arachne name

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
How about calling the secondary list Arachne-project? Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ -Original Message- The word itself wouldn't be copyright or otherwise owned, and it does identify our project. Someone earlier started the subject

RE: [lace] Arachne-7; more logistics (long)

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Susan Lambiris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought of having the seven panels linked to each other so that they could be unfolded to form a sort of seven-sided cylinder-like globe, Just remember, it's not only the packing requirements, but the *nature* of the display that you need to

RE: [lace] 7 wives 7 contintents

2004-06-07 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isn't this something that can be moved to lace chat?? No as it is a planning discussion for a large lace project. Don't worry, it should soon be moving to its own list, neither lace nor chat. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA

RE: [lace] Seven one more time!

2004-06-04 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Patricia Ann Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] As I was going to St. Ives I met a man with seven wives. The seven wives had seven sacks. The seven sacks had seven cats. The seven cats had seven kits. Kits, cats, sacks, wives, how many were going to St. Ives? Now *that's* a project big enough

RE: [lace] CD impermanence (was: Arachne webshot album)

2004-06-04 Thread Panza, Robin
Weronika wrote: You mean CDs? Really? I've never heard that. Maybe I should see whether my old ones still work... Oh, yes!!! CDs are *not* archival. They deteriorate. Re-writable ones can fade *especially* quickly. Definitely check your CDs regularly. Ironically, people worry about

RE: [lace] Seven one more time!

2004-06-04 Thread Panza, Robin
1 man 7 wives, a number of sacks appearing from behind the wive's backs or lying on the roadside where somebody dropped one and hasn't noticed yet a few cats and kittens who have managed to make their escape, running every which way ... What a glorious, chaotic mess that would be! Some wives

RE: [lace] Seven one more time!

2004-06-04 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Clay Blackwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if we have a large piece with a number of panels, each with one of the wonderful ideas that has been tossed out... how amusing it would be to see a stray kitten or a lost bag (or a wandering wife), meandering through the other panels!! It'd have to

RE: [lace] seven...

2004-06-01 Thread Panza, Robin
Make a lace picture of your town? Even though it has more than seven buildings, the lace would be of 7 houses because that is the name of the town. Robin P. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA http://www.pittsburghlace.8m.com/ -Original Message- I happen to live in a village called

RE: [lace] butterflies book on ebay

2004-05-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Wow! Those are spectacular for those of us who like our butterflies realistic! There are so many butterfly designs out there and most make the zoologist in me cringe because they're so bizarre. I have no idea how good the instructions are, but her results are gorgeous! Robin P. Pittsburgh,

[lace] re: Good news!

2004-05-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Weronika Patena [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What is this all about? On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:51:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At long last, CD3 and CD4 are ready for shipment. Tess has been working with a professor in Arizona on making old, out-of-copyright lace documents

RE: [lace] Brok 36/2 thread comparison

2004-05-19 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Samrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I know I need Brenda's book, but as I am just starting the book list is really long. How does Brok 36/2 compare to Brokman's 35/3? I know we are dealing with 2 ply vs. 3 ply, but are they close in size? As a general rule (within cotton, or within linen,

RE: [lace] Re: lFantasy Flowers

2004-05-19 Thread Panza, Robin
If Rosemary made her first flowers in the late 70s then this predates the Novak ones by a considerable margin. But no-one would think that plagiarism has taken place the other way round, would they! Frankly, that was my first reaction--that it could have just as easily been plagiarism in either

RE: [lace] Braid lace/tape lace

2004-05-11 Thread Panza, Robin
Some of us Yanks learned early-on about Milanese from Read and Kincaid, and so call that (and Russian) braid lace. Although it grates on my ear, I've never heard a decent alternative term to use. I usually avoid the braid/tape controversy by calling the other kind Battenberg family or lace made

RE: [lace] YLI silk

2004-05-10 Thread Panza, Robin
Sylvia wrote: YLI silk is very strong and works up extremely well. I have used it and Bev responds: Excellent endorsement - I think I'd like to try it for Bucks then - what gimp thread I wonder? I've used YLI 50 and 100 (and Tire 50) for Bucks, and they both work up very well. They are very

RE: [lace] Venetian Gros Point Lace

2004-04-12 Thread Panza, Robin
Yes, it's the same Barley. She's a lovely woman, too. I took her stumpwork class at Ithaca a few years ago and had a delightful time! She also has a book out just by her, on quite a variety of needlelaces. It's really nice if you're interested in the variety. Each chapter is about one style,

RE: [lace] Thread question

2004-04-07 Thread Panza, Robin
I've never bought the S/Z causing unwinding, but I think I can answer your question anyway. Take a piece of thread (yarn would be easier). Hold it vertically--is it S or Z? Now turn it over (put the other hand above). It's still the same twist direction. So wind one end onto a bobbin. Then

RE: [lace] Thread opinions wanted

2004-04-07 Thread Panza, Robin
Joy wrote: I just pulled one of the threads, and the entire skein coiled up on it, then the coil dropped off and unwound, ready to straighten out and pull out another thread. From: Adele Shaak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Joy - that's how I separate floss, and I can't understand why

RE: [lace] New IOLI Bulletin

2004-04-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jane Viking Swanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I won't spill all the secrets of the new IOLI Bulletin but I have to mention the incredible BL crab on the cover. It's by Elizabeth MacDonald of Pennsylvania and the colors are incredible!!! Some of you will remember reports to arachne a few

RE: [lace] Thread opinions wanted

2004-04-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] one strand of DMC embroidery floss, the worst choice as everybody knows, and a dreadful no-no for lacemakersSo what, what, what, dear Arachnes, is the forbidding edict against floss all about? I've never heard any forbidding edict against

RE: [lace] filet/lacis

2004-03-31 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Vasna Zago [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend and I are trying to figure out all the differences between filet and lacis. Are they the same kind of lace? What is filet crochet and how is that different? Filet crochet is definitely different from filet/lacis. It uses chain-stitch to

RE: [lace] Turkish Lacemaking

2004-03-31 Thread Panza, Robin
Much of the oya is (or at least was) knotted needlelace, although modern books show crocheted and tatted flowers, too. If you enlarge the bottom photo in that article, the pink flower is knotted (Armenian) needlelace while the top photo looks like all crocheted. Robin P. Pittsburgh,

RE: [lace] making a roller

2004-03-30 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Ann-Marie Lördal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How did you attach it to the pillow? I have been suggested to hold it down with velcro (I was thinking of using drain pipe holders, dressed in fabric, and put them at an angle in the hole for the original roller :-)) but velcro sounds better. I

RE: [lace] Cow and calf bobbins

2004-03-30 Thread Panza, Robin
Cow and a calf. Or mother and babe. Those are bobbins (always Midlands, I think) which are carved/turned in such a way that a larger one will carry, within itself, a really tiny (no more than 3/4-1) one. I have a couple of these lovely old bobbins, but they are not spangled as Midlands bobbins

RE: [lace] Workshop versus class/course

2004-03-16 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Linda Greyling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Taking a workshop class or course we expect to learn, but what does the different names suggest . Does it influence your choice? Should the name reflect the content? I think of a workshop as being short-term; an hour, a day, at most a weekend.

RE: [lace] shawl

2004-03-11 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Lorelei Halley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The only problem is in making modified equipment large enough to handle the pattern and threadsOrdinary bobbins don't have enough storage space for such thick yarn. A friend made a shawl using fingering-weight yarn. She used spring-type

RE: [lace] The Professor's site

2004-03-10 Thread Panza, Robin
Tess, those CDs are such a spectacular resource and the price is so low as to be the bargain of the century! If you have to raise the price for better packaging, there isn't anyone who can object. At twice the price they'd still be a great deal, in order to get those priceless treasures into our

RE: [lace] Romanian Point Lace patterns

2004-03-08 Thread Panza, Robin
Since the Battenberg-style tapes are flat, it's easy to cross them. Crossing the round Romanian cords would create an unsightly (to me) bulge. It may not be a rule of the lace, but it would certainly be ugly to my eye. However, many Battenberg-style patterns that have loops in them can be made by

[lace] Avital? Are you there?

2004-03-08 Thread Panza, Robin
Sorry to send this to the whole list, but I don't have Avital's address. I just got a virus report on a message that claims to come from Arachne. The virus was Netsky. I don't know if this is one of those viruses that puts a bogus address on the message, but thought I should report it, just in

RE: [lace] Twined gimps

2004-02-24 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried out the twined gimps with metallic thread on a linen bookmark (leftovers from the Seashore edge) and it works a treat, makes the metallic really stand out well. I really can't understand why it's not a basic component of Torchon. And yes,

RE: [lace] Fwd: WHITAKER VINTAGE AUCTION 3-24 3-25

2004-02-24 Thread Panza, Robin
Wow, that's some spectacular collection of textiles. Jane Viking Swanson, check out the Blattenburg coat. There are some nice lace yardages and lace- and lace-trimmed garments to drool over, too. And a calf-length Irish crochet coat. Anyone who hasn't gone to see, check it out! Robin P.

RE: [lace] Buffing NL.

2004-02-13 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Elizabeth Ligeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have never buffed my NL, and wonder if it really makes very much difference. Do you only buff the raised work, or the fillings, too? I've never heard of buffing the lace, although I admit I'm not deeply into NL. I would never think of rubbing

RE: [lace] Re: eastern US suppliers and plastic

2004-02-09 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Lacemakerhttp://www.lacemakerusa.com/ Mmm... Neither Holly nor Susan take plastic -- aka credit cards (don't know about Tracy at the Lacemaker) Tracy takes plastic in her store, so I assume she takes plastic over the internet. Robin

RE: [lace] I need a new magazine subscription

2004-02-06 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What about 'Lace Express'? It's expensive (62 euros, 43 pounds 40 pence) for 4 issues (April, July, October and January) and available through either Germany or Canada. I just went to their site and it said a year (even 2004) was 52 euros (65.85

RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books

2004-02-05 Thread Panza, Robin
I started to send this directly to Linda, but decided to send to the list. While this is not lace, conserving old patterns and books is pretty darn close and I've included the addresses of archival suppliers that can be useful for supplies to preserve old lace, too. I am *NOT* a paper

RE: [lace] Preserving Old Books

2004-02-05 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Carolyn Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Second, I learned at a workshop presented by Archival Products that there are a number of the plastic pockets on the market that are marked archival that aren't, at all. As far as I could tell, about the only way to distinguish was to purchase

RE: [lace] Gimps

2004-02-04 Thread Panza, Robin
From: W N Lafferty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nothing suitable (thick enough) for the two single gimps (I figured I'd need Perle 5 for effect). So I would up pairs of bobbins with Perle 8 in aqua, and instead of passing the threads over the gimp, I passed the linen threads through the pair of

RE: [lace] Oya book on eBay

2004-01-23 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Avital Pinnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I didn't realise that there were so many ways of making beaded oya. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3582414435ssPageName=ADM E:B:SS:US:1 I bought another book from this dealer (elfocan) and one from another Turkish dealer. The

RE: [lace] IOLI Convention

2004-01-22 Thread Panza, Robin
The bit I liked best about this one is Robin's confidence that the first piece of lace will be finished, leaving the pillow and bobbins free for the second class. Oh, that's hilarious! I've been crowned Queen of Unfinished Projects! Last time I finished something (other than a gift), my

RE: [lace] Dover winter sale

2004-01-21 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only one lace book listed, but it's an interesting one for those who like to design or meddle with existing patterns... http://www.doverpublications.com/winter_sale/ws_nc.html Personally, I consider Cook and Stott's Book of Bobbin Lace Stitches

[lace] RE: Convention planning

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
One thing that was useful when planning an ornithological convention was that the organization kept a set of files that were passed from one local committee to the next. It included budgets (including who you got quotes from), what you decided to do (and, generally, why), and a post-event

RE: [lace] Modify an old pattern to a new pattern

2004-01-20 Thread Panza, Robin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I would like to reproduce this edging in a circular format. How might I go about doing that? It's reasonably easy to copy the design onto polar coordinate graph paper. This is graph paper arranged in a circle, so the vertical lines of the

RE: [lace] lace pattern with hearts

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have tried to create the pattern myself from a pattern that I found for a round doily but I have not been able to create the corners. Now, I am running out of time and need to find a pattern. If you like that pattern, use it without fabricated corners.

RE: [lace] Luton Lace Treasury Vol 1

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Sue Babbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The patterns are stunning, and the prickings and diagrams are so clear. The lace is so beautifully worked. I haven't seen the book yet, but I know from Sally's contributions to the NELG newsletter that yes, she makes excellent prickings and diagrams.

RE: [lace] Travelling with Pillows

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Carol Adkinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It looks like an over-large brick, on its end, and opens out so that the actual apron bit (where the bobbins actually sit whilst work is in progress) is larger than an 18 pillow would be. I have one of these SMP travel pillows and really like it.

[lace] RE: teaching stitches (was: lacey weekend)

2004-01-14 Thread Panza, Robin
when teaching the basing 3 stitches (half/CT;whole/cloth/CTC; double half/CTCT), which is the easier route to go, when it comes to teaching half and double half? Ie which one is easier to learn first? So many people are intimidated by half stitch, that I'd save it for last. It's so easy to

RE: [lace] eBay bobbins

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
Ah, this guy is back, or it looks like it's the same guy. Be warned, he uses the same photo every time he lists bobbins, and you don't necessarily get the same assortment as in the photo. You do get 10 assorted antique French bobbins, and the photo is representative of the shapes and sizes,

RE: [lace] Re: Big finishing for lace project

2004-01-12 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Viv Dewar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd ask the framer to use non-reflective glass too. (I've never framed lace, but that's what I used in pre-BL days for cross stitch). It cuts out some of the glare IMO is worth the extra cost Personally, I don't like non-glare glass. It's got a tiny bit

RE: [lace] Item on E-bay

2004-01-09 Thread Panza, Robin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2586669105category=39445 In the description it says that it is very likely from the Island of Malta. It may well be from the island of Malta. There are many lacemakers on Malta who do not make Maltese lace. A couple of years ago, there was a

RE: [lace] ...and ? about Maltese lace

2004-01-08 Thread Panza, Robin
From: Celtic Dream Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Since I now have this pair of bobbins a thought occurred to me...I don't think I have run across any patterns for Maltese lace. Have I been blind or what...did I miss something over the past few years That was me sitting next to you,

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