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Could you please explain how bindings are done in log4j v2? I see that
there are multiple artifacts produced such as log4j2-core.jar,
log4j2-api.jar, log4j12-api.jar, log4j2-jcl.jar and slf4j-impl.jar. Are
these supposed to be present on the class path simultaneously or at most
A pointer to the class responsible for binding would be sufficient to
get me going.
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Could you please explain how bindings are done in log4j v2? I see that
there are multiple artifacts produced such as log4j2-core.jar,
log4j2-api.jar
. It all
makes sense.
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A pointer to the class responsible for binding would be sufficient to
get me going.
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Could you please explain how bindings are done in log4j v2? I see that
there are multiple
On 19/02/2010 7:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
This said, why not having another election. I don't think its
necessary, but if you feel better with that, lets do it.
Elections should not be held just to assuage my feelings.
Here is a list of team members:
On 20/02/2010 12:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Thanks Ceki for your long and detailled answer. You are right, i
missed a word out in my mail - I meant if we would take logback as
base for new development, as you suggested in a previous mail (so i
understood it).
I had not openly excluded
On 14/02/2010 7:05 AM, Curt Arnold wrote:
On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:58 PM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Isn't the write method in PrudentWriter (see [1]) a copy-and-paste of code
safeWrite() method in logback's FileAppender (see [2])?
[1]
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/logging/log4j/trunk/src/main/java
On 13/02/2010 5:59 AM, Curt Arnold wrote:
I am due to file another quarterly board report and will mention your
concerns. You are also free to petition the ASF Board.
For background for those who are new to this topic. From
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-chair:
On 13/02/2010 5:59 AM, Curt Arnold wrote:
I believe the thread that you are thinking about is
http://marc.info/?l=log4j-devm=122841935827332w=2.
I was indeed thinking of the message you referenced above.
You were arguing that log4j 1.2 should make a significant API change
(changing
Isn't the write method in PrudentWriter (see [1]) a copy-and-paste of code
safeWrite() method in logback's FileAppender (see [2])?
[1]
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[2]
On 10/02/2010 6:12 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to bring up the old discussion on future Log4J
development again. I think christmas killed it before there was an
satisfying conclusion. I was basically asking if Log4J is dead or not;
several opinions rose. There is logback
On 10/02/2010 7:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
Another option would be to declare logback as the official successor
to log4j, i.e. designate it as log4j 2.0.
yes - that would be the most perfect solution i think. But are you
willing to do bring the code back to apache?
Sorry, I wasn't
Hi Christian,
Have a look at logback. It is the continuation of the log4j 1.3
effort, with 4 years of additional work.
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on the log4j work.
Best regards,
Christian
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Have a look at logback. It is the continuation of the log4j 1.3
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This is actually my biggest issue with Logback (and SLF4J). I've been
thinking recently of starting work on Log4j 2.0 simply because I do
not like the community model of Logback. This is no criticism of you
- it should go without saying that you are extremely talented. But
Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
In RollingFileAppender.rollOver() after a successful roll over is this
code to create the new active file:
187 if (renameSucceeded) {
188 try {
189 // This will also close the file. This is OK since multiple
190 // close operations are safe.
191
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emerson.cla...@barclayscapital.com wrote:
When running Apache Tomcat 5.0.28 configured with Apache Commons Logging
and Log4J there appears to be a serious resource leak which
users
to recompile. On the other hand, natively
implementing SLF4J will work much better in presence of repo-selectors.
Jake
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point of view I think many of the Java 1.4+ network library, and
java.util.concurrent stuff could be well used in a new logging package.
I would certainly be interested in Chainsaw v3. How about doing it in logback?
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Other than myself, I am unaware of anyone else
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to decorate a class with a marker
which could be pretty useful indeed.
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to be to identify concerns
that cut across the established hierarchy and the expected use
appears to be as an aid to configuration.
Markers (as do domains) create a second dimension
for filtering. The TRACE marker in the logback-demo might be of interest.
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Patrick's suggestion of
Decorator Pattern would be the easiest way to go.
Pro:
- The enhancement applies to all FileAppender
- There is no need to touch the code of the existing file appenders. They
work the same way as until now (except the append property is always true)
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Describe http://www.cricinfo.com here.
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parameterized messages into string but keeps myObject available for further
processing. I am doing exactly this in LOGBack, my experimental logging
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SLF4J is now quite stable. Unless there is opposition, I'd like to
take the initiative to restore native SLF4J support in 1.3.
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guess would be that it would not be difficult at all. In the unlikely case
of problems while upgrading, is there any reason the velocity-user list
could not be contacted? The characterization of the current system as
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debug(String message, Object obj0, Object obj1)
debug(String message, Object obj0, Object obj1, Object obj2)
Throwable ...
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, they certainly aren't of the mind to upgrade Log4j or anything else.
JDK1.5 is out and 1.6 is in development. It's time to put JDK1.2 to rest
which
will allow us to make promises we can stand by!
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, ContextJNDISelector does not cause memory leaks. Previous
versions of log4j (e.g. 1.2) did not ship with any selectors.
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No doubt that you are right but I wonder how you reached this conclusion?
The java.lang.VerifyError
is so cryptic. Which version of the JDK are you using?
The output is the same on JDK 1.3 and JDK 1.5. I wrote a trivial test
program that just
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the TRACE level to the
1.2 branch?
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habits,
especially in light of the confusion between TRACE and DEBUG. There is
also the question of backward compatibility over the wire. If TRACE was
introduced in 1.2.11 it would be incompatible with versions 1.2.9 and earlier.
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For your information, I've asked infrastructure to put on hold the
log4j migration to SVN [1]. This should allow the new PMC chair and
the group to decide the layout of the SVN repo as deemed most
appropriate.
[1] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-309
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not sure he asked or informed anyone but that's a different mater.
Jake
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At 16:48 5/4/2005, Jacob Kjome wrote:
I like Mark's
will all
be more comfortable doing the official release. Until then, there is
nothing wrong with doing an official experimental release. Maybe I am
optimistic, but that is the way I see it.
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* plus any committer on JCL
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pretty obvious. Since we have the right
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to be overkill for log4j's needs. However, the implementation may be much
more shaky in log4cxx and having similar tests in both log4j and log4cxx
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You can download log4j version 1.2.10 at
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It would have been nice to have a vote on this release, no? ;)
No big deal. Thanks for putting it together so quickly.
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On Apr 29, 2005, at 11:23 AM, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Log4j and log4cxx are distinct code bases written in different
languages. I oppose any artificial attempts to make Java code mimic
C++ particularities, idiosyncrasies, deficiencies or a combination
thereof
That's normal because the code comes from UGLI.
At 22:08 4/29/2005, you wrote:
demon is the slf4j 1.0 beta (LoggerFactoryAdapter.java), there are
references to UGLi in the comments.
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surrounding
this release. Consequently, I may have rushed it a little, hoping for
your continued support and understanding.
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Hello all,
Just completed the migration to SLF4J for log4j in the CVS repository
(HEAD). It all seems to build and run nicely.
Will do the same for the 1.2 branch along with minor bugs reported for the
1.2 branch.
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I have the sneaking suspicion that XMLLayout may not handle some edge
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compatibility is required and
what platform constraints there are) while having a
more Chaitinian overall distribution.
Frankly, you have no interest in a more decoupled
stucture?
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1.3 is in alpha so I take
Hello,
On general@ I started a discussion whether we should begin our migration to
SVN starting with log4j.
If you intend to reply, please do so on the general@ mailing lists.
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official answers for these questions? If not, then
the move is fine for UGLI but maybe not so fine (or maybe just irrelevant) for
JCL.
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irrelevant) for
JCL.
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As a result of discussions held on this list and on commons-dev, I
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Apache Logging Services would benefit the wider OS community
that your opinion will carry considerable amount of weight in the jakarta
commons side of the fence.
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candidate), call it 'JCL 2.0', encourage everyone to use it, and we can
all get on with life.
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probably break backwards compatibility, but
it will work.
How can we have confidence when the existing JCL causes so many
problems for log4j users, especially when even the mere existence of
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, but can it be done?
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to yet another logging interface discussions.
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for accessing (frontend),
the component for accessing then can be used by wrappers or extended with
special (existing?) interfaces.
Yes, this has been partially accomplished by UGLI log4j split, although as
you suggest, there is still more work to do.
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Log4j list, in which case I would most definitely see it.
YAIQ (yet another interesting question)
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It is fairly obvious that Curt's veto was sustained by all voters except
for me. I'll comment on the vote after I sort out more urgent tasks, such
as tax return and other really interesting administravia.
At 07:14 PM 2/28/2005, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
Curt, your -1 vote is duly registered as blocking
project. As an
organizational policy we cannot use 1.3 until it's been officially release.
So, in the meantime I'm going to have to create a thread I guess to do the
switching.
I'll switch over to 1.3 after you release it.
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tagged as a syncronized object. So your blocking on the monitor.
JProfiler clearly shows this.
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in user effort.
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I can't stress how strongly that I believe these changes are bad and
will unnecessarily cause some users of 1.2 to stay with log4j 1.2 or
encounter broken behavior
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Thanks Knut.
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a seperate sub-project until after establishing a cleanly
seperated CVS/build environment is in operation.
4. Propose that all existing log4j committers still have full access to
this new module.
+1 [ ] Make it so
0 [ ] *yawn* -1 [ ] Leave Chainsaw where it is
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their issues but the circumstantial evidence suggest that we broke them too.
Let me have a closer look and get back to you. :-)
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At 05:47 PM 2/24/2005, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
That makes sense because the recent additions are compile-time compatible
with existing appenders.
The above statement is true for any appender extending AppenderSkeleton
because AppenderSkeleton implements the methods newly added to the Appender
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not be the case. At any rate, if you are interested in including
them in log4j, just ask me.
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. Is there anything else major that
needs to be done for v1.3?
- Watchdogs (FileWatchdog, HttpWatchdog, SocketWatchdog)
- ?
-Mark
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to use it instead of referencing element 0 of the ec.
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Chainsaw as a separate project is also a possibility. If Chainsaw
is in its own module, a separate project could make sense.
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be interesting to explore having the
initialization behavior configurable. But, again my opinion, it would have
to be done in a way where it requires explicit effort on the part of the
developer/deployer to setup and override. No guess work.
:-)
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(ExecutionContext ec, Properties props) {
LoggerRepository repository = getLoggerRepository(ec);
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