[LUTE] Re: Lautenband

Dear Rainer, there are lute straps as the sand on the sea, very much ... As you are searching for a provider in your country, have a look on the website of lute builder Schossig. Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Lautenband Datum: 2020-09-20T09:42:13+0200 Von:

[LUTE] Re: Ringfinger

Hui! Prima! I even had forgotten about what Le Roy had to say on right-hand fingers. Thanks Rainer and ev'ryone else! Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Ringfinger Datum: 2020-08-31T13:41:07+0200 Von: "Rainer" An: "Lute List" From Judenkunig's Utilis et

[LUTE] Re: Red notes in Eysert

Dear Rainer, dear all, there is nothing of that in the copies I have from Klima's introduction to his "Themenverzeichnis". Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Red notes in Eysert Datum: 2020-08-24T09:40:51+0200 Von: "Rainer" An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" In Eysert

[LUTE] Re: Weird instrument depiction in painting

Oversized Oirish or Scottish Harp painted by someone who is accustomed to have yer soundboxes made from planks, ;) Slàinte Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Weird instrument depiction in painting Datum: 2020-07-20T20:04:41+0200 Von: "Tristan von Neumann" An:

[LUTE] Sales ads for "original" nineteenth-century instruments

Dear Lute Listers, a few weeks ago I noticed the first sales activities concerning instruments described as 19th century guitars. Yesterday a link to an ad on Wayne Cripp's lute page appeared in the Ning Lute Group announcing the sale of a "Gorgeous and unique" original

[LUTE] Re: Vanishing lute tops - or not?

Thank you, David, you are a real mine of information! Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vanishing lute tops - or not? Datum: 2020-06-13T14:26:49+0200 Von: "David Van Edwards" An: "lute List" Dear Jörg, I cover this towards the end of this essay on a related matter.

[LUTE] Re: Vanishing lute tops – or not?

Hydrochloric acid applied in an appropriate quantity and manner might do the job ... ;) We all fall victim to spellcheckers from time to time ... Apart from joking: Do we really know something about the goings on concerning varnish or sealing (wax?) being applied to lute soundboards of them

[LUTE] Re: Laute - periodical

Dear Monica, that should be Die Laute. Jahrbuch der Deutschen Lautengesellschaft 11 (2013). The information that it is published in Stuttgart is wrong. The place is Frankfurt/Main. ISSN 1437-3378. All best Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth

[LUTE] Re: 7c. Lute music

Dear Martin, dear all -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: 7c. Lute music Datum: 2020-06-05T18:18:42+0200 Von: "Martin Shepherd" An: "Lute List" [snip] Incidentally, this is also the tuning used in an early MS (Thibault?), = I-Bu MS 596. HH. 24; I-PESo MS 1144 Just my pennywoth

[LUTE] Re: funny video

Nice shredding on the Quinterne! -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] funny video Datum: 2020-05-22T13:55:57+0200 Von: "Tristan von Neumann" An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFwyEs0ID6U I just found this... great playing and a funny idea. To get on

[LUTE] Re: Lute strap

Not to forget the picture of two guy playing in Castaldi's Capricci a due stromenti … :) -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Lute strap Datum: 2020-05-22T13:26:04+0200 Von: "Ralf Mattes" An: "Tristan von Neumann" Am Freitag, 22. Mai 2020 12:24 CEST, Tristan von Neumann

[LUTE] Oops:Double Top

And what I simply forgot in my first mail on this topic: Among the newly built guitars shown and played during the guitar days at the Bremen Hochschule there actually was at least one with a Sandwich/Laminate/Double Top, plus there was one with a soundboard/barring construction

[LUTE] AWR2D2: Double Top

Thank you John, David, and everyone else who replied and contributed so far! My lute/guitar lexigraphy is quite a bit enriched now. As to the lute: I think I prefer the traditional construction and materials for the historic instrument. All best Joachim

[LUTE] Re: Double Top

Dear David, dear list, I was a bit puzzled at first because I know the term double top, but only pointing to instruments like e.g. Marcard guitars with a second, 'interior' soundboard. What you describe is what I think is usually called a sandwiched soundboard. Is my terminology too limited or

[LUTE] Re: Everyone OK?

Dear Leonard, this is Olde Yurrup speaking: it's not the plague, but it can remind one of what happened tempore pestis. Covid 19/Corona virus will not be the reason behind the quietness on this list at the moment, but one has to prepare for some difficult months for everyone who depends on

[LUTE] Re: Off topic to German members

Wind is a constant of any weather here. You miss something when it doesn't blow. So: Blow, Sabine, and crack thy cheeks! Jo the Word Botcher -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Off topic to German members Datum: 2020-02-09T18:07:38+0100 Von: "Rainer" An: "Lute net" Stürmisch ist

[LUTE] Re: SMT Website down?

Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20 Mail: [1]jo.lued...@t-online.de [2]www.lektorat-luedtke.de Mitglied im Verband der freien Lektorinnen und Lektoren [3]www.vfll.de

[LUTE] SMT Website down?

Dear Lute listers, does anybody on this list know what happened to the Website of Meyer's Sources manuscrites en tablature? The links normally leading to the index page fail (error 404), and Google-dee-doo only produces hits for the print publications. Best Joe the

[LUTE] Re: Milan's name

Not only among Jews, Roman! If every Oesterreicher, Frankfurter or what-you-have would be Jewish, there would be no problem for any small Kehillah anywhere here to find a Minjan for the Service … Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Milan's name Datum:

[LUTE] Milan's name

In El Cortesano it's Don Luys Milan … I am not a home for the next few days, but if anyone has the Facsimile of El Maestro published by the Sociedad de la Vihuela a few years ago, he or she could look into the commentary and see if there is any evidence mentioned for Milán, de Milán or similar.

[LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyone?

The title page of the Libro de motes … has Luys Milan too I have not seen El Cortesano for quite a while … All best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Portuguese Lute Music anyone? Datum: 2020-01-05T10:13:43+0100 Von: "Albert Reyerman" An: "Tristan von Neumann" ,

[LUTE] Re: Vous Usurpe

he Word Botcher -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Vous Usurpe Datum: 2019-12-20T19:37:37+0100 Von: "Mayes, Joseph" An: "lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" , "Joachim Lüdtke" .and here I thought that I was Jo the clueless luter. Joseph Mayes ___

[LUTE] Re: Vous Usurpe

Is it possible that it is not "Vous usurpe", but a mistitled intabulation of the Liuto asper part from Victor Wadenbaiß`s "Donnerstag aus Lärm" instead? Just my pennyworth Jo the clueless luter -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Vous Usurpe Datum: 2019-12-20T17:25:25+0100 Von:

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

Dear David, dear Arthur, this is one I examined alongside other portrait etchings or engravings (among them some ridiculous ones) meant to represent Melchior and Hans Newsidler and Hans Gerle. Originals are in the art collections of the Town of Nuremberg. I thought I would find them to be

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

Dear Arthur, a few years ago I collected the information concerning this winter passage over the alps from the travel diary of Camerarius, put it together with another guy's findings on Melchior Newsidler's life and had it published in the quarterly of the German lute society. I tried to

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

It's also well possible that he met with highway men! :) -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again Datum: 2019-11-11T13:03:31+0100 Von: "David Van Edwards" An: "Joachim Lüdtke" But it would have to have been

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Newsidler's portrait, again

At 11:32 +0100 11/11/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote: >Please Joachim :) > >There is nothing to be learned if just those broad statements are uttered. > >What makes you think that it is not a contemporary portrait? > > > > >On 11.11.19 11:23, Joachim Lüdtke wro

[LUTE] Re: M. H. L.

Kassel, Murhard'sche Bibliothek und Landesibibliothek, 4° Ms. Mus. 108.1, the lute book of princess Elisabeth of Hassia, comes to mind. Facsimile edited by Axel Halle. There is a Ph.D. on the manuscript by Claudia Knispel. Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: M.

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

Well, the tags refer to Gerle and Dowland because they both stand for a certain period, and both have written about setting frets – and ay, there's the rub, because Dowland cited Gerle's much earlier instructions, including a miscalculation. It would be nice to have a lute from Gerle's

[LUTE] Re: Julian Bream on Lute

Dear all, quite interesting, where that leads to: Meinel (instead of Meinl) = Meinel & Herold, makers of plucked instruments in the ex-GDR. Ammon Johannes Meinel built lutes from the 1950s on. If the monogramm is AM, then it might be him, but he will surely not be alife anymore (born in

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

D'accord: it works well with the thumb stretched out. This is not what puzzles me, but the question does why he did not let the description of playing diminutions follow directly after the description of the basic thumb-out position and playing. The music of the Thesaurus Harmonicus

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky

Well, Vallet states that if one finds a single dot beneath a ‎(tablature) letter, it is to be plucked with the first finger. Two small lines mean the second finger, and if there is none of these, the thumb plays the course. There is a lot of music in in Paradisus Musicus Testudinis which is

[LUTE] Re: Il primo libro d'intavolatura di liuto Galilei repeat bars

are a few printers mistakes > too and there is doubtlessly an element of improvisation in the way the > introductory anacruses should be played anyway (as perhaps indicated, for > example, by the occasional long note values). > Best, > Matthew > > > >> On Dec

[LUTE] Re: Il primo libro d'intavolatura di liuto Galilei repeat bars

t Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20 Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de www.lektorat-luedtke.de Mitglied im Verband der freien Lektorinnen und Lektoren www.vfll.de www.lektoren.de/profil/joachim-luedtke -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Il primo l

[LUTE] Re2: A little known manuscript

. It is a bit like in German lute manuscripts of the early to mid seventeenth century, where late sixteenth-century music mixes with later baroque pieces. Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Re: A little known manuscript Datum: 2018-05-27T22:40:42+0200 Von: "Joachim L

[LUTE] Re: A little known manuscript

Dear Rainer, I didn't know this keyboard book – thank you for your mail and the link. What a pity that they scanned an old microfilm and not the original. I seems a pretty ms.! Best wishes, Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] A little known manuscript Datum:

[LUTE] Re: Pacoloni

Dear Jean-Marie, I am not aware of any PhD on the Pacoloni trios and have never seen the studi mentioned in the introduction to the facsimile "Intavolatura manoscritta per Liuto del duomo di Castelfrance Veneto", Bologna 2012: P. van Engeland, "Pacoloni. Pièces pour trois luths, 1564. Etude

[LUTE] Re: Ugga, Agga

have seen some Mozart in very black, but I do not recall which KV that was ... Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20 Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de www.lektorat-luedtke.de Mitglied im Verband der freien Lektorinnen und Lekt

[LUTE] Re: Freundlich hoflich dhin darbei

Dear Rainer, I had a look a the microfilm of the source (Leipzig II.6.15) yesterday. The initial s (it's the round, not the long form) is a bit, well, one of its own, but still it is an s. I read the word as "schein" = a dialect form of schoen. Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht-

[LUTE] Re: German song questions

;Ralf Mattes" <r...@mh-freiburg.de> An: "Joachim Lüdtke" <jo.lued...@t-online.de> Am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2018 10:29 CET, Joachim Lüdtke <jo.lued...@t-online.de> schrieb: > Dear Robert, dear Rainer, > > original sources can (sometimes) be found by

[LUTE] Re: German song questions

ka, nor crabs. Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: Re: [LUTE] Re: German song questions Datum: 2018-02-08T11:20:07+0100 Von: "Ralf Mattes" <r...@mh-freiburg.de> An: "Joachim Lüdtke" <jo.lued...@t-online.de> Am Donnerstag, 08. Februar 2018 10:29 C

[LUTE] Re: German song questions

Dear Robert, dear Rainer, original sources can (sometimes) be found by looking into Norbert Böker-Heil et al. (eds.); "Das Tenorlied". 3 Vols Kassel etc. 1979 - 1986. This is a source catalogue of songbooks both manuscript and printed from 1450 to 1580. Vol. 3 contains the indexes. "Vnser magt

[LUTE] Re: Unknown manuscript

Dear G Naples, Biblioteca del Conservatorio S. Pitro a Majella MS 7664; see Victor Coelhos Catalogue (including incipits). Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] Unknown manuscript Datum: 2018-01-31T11:39:02+0100 Von: "G. C." An: "Lutelist"

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

, and that all ideas of mine about fine play, octave strings and sonorities are nonsense ... Best Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20 Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de Mitglied im Verband der freien Lektorinnen und Lekt

[LUTE] Re: tone colour echo

Dear Rainer, De Rippe's intavolation of Gentian's "Dieu qui conduit" ("L'Eccho"). Best Joachim -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] tone colour echo Datum: 2018-01-30T11:45:30+0100 Von: "Rainer" An: "Lute net" Dear lute netters, I

[LUTE] Re: Four and Twenty Fiddlers: The Violin at the English Court, 1540-1690

The birds began to sing; Wasn't that a dainty dish, To set before the king. (a.s.o.) Best Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel.: 0911 / 976 45 20 Mail: jo.lued...@t-online.de Mitglied im Verband der freien Lektorinnen und Lekt

[LUTE] Re: German Lute history (was: Stringing Question)

seldomly seen guitar lutes which show the same sort of damages. I have seen photographs, too, of guitar lutes being carried around and played in the outdoors, but generally these are largely outnumbered by guitars ... Just my pennyworth Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke

[LUTE] Re: German keyboard tablature

I should be able to make sense of it ... Best Joachim Lektorat & Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D-90762 Fürth Tel. 0911 / 976 45 20 -Original-Nachricht- Betreff: [LUTE] German keyboard tablature Datum: 2017-05-26T14:10:17+0200 Von: "Rainer" <

[LUTE] Re: Hainhofer lute songs

Dear Walter, Es ist auf Erd kein schwerer Leiden and Lass ab, es ist umsonst are not from the Hainhofer-Ms. I could send you copies from my copies of the pages containing the other two pieces. There is no modern edition of the book(s) - only single pieces in scattered places - nor is there a

[LUTE] Re: limits of technology

Dear Wayne, geared tuners: no problem - but they would not have been build buy a luthier but by a craftsman specialising in scientific (astronomic, e.g.) instruments and/or automats for the collections of the rich. But the strings I think you're right. A set of 0.13 Phosphor Bronce might

[LUTE] Re: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

Dear Ed, I suspect there are Japanese people adhering to the system of classifying according to material of construction as there are such who have adopted the Sachs-system. I even remember a Japanese co-student of mine once reading us a paper about the adoption of the western harmonic system

[LUTE] Re: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

Dear Matthias, another system of classifying musical instruments is by material (used in India, China a.s.o). I think, there's at least as much logic in this system as in the western european. I do not have difficulties in applying the Sachs system to any instrument as a material thing but

[LUTE] Re: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

to which they belong) he consequently calls any instrument with strings attached to a body and something like a neck a lute. Guitars are Kastenhalslauten and the Kemence is a Schalenhalslaute ... Best wishes, Joachim Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Joachim Lüdtke [EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

Dear Mathias, I agree with almost everything you write except that I would like to call instruments first and foremost by their proper names (especially if it comes to non western european instruments), that I would not like to call guitars lutes [and therefore have to admit that I am not able

[LUTE] Re: SV: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

. is a lute defined by its shape, double strings, interior construction, tuning, or something else.? We have no problem accepting a single-strung theorbo or the guitar-like tuning of the gallichon as members of the lute family. Where's the dividing line? Chris --- Joachim Lüdtke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[LUTE] Re: SV: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

some Internet when we describe the renaissance of lute playing from tablature. Best wishes Kenneth Sparr Stromstigen 25 S-149 51 Nynashamn SWEDEN Telephone: +46-852015561 www.tabulatura.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Joachim Lüdtke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: SV: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

: +46-852015561 www.tabulatura.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Joachim Lüdtke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 9 oktober 2005 20:07 Till: Kenneth Sparr; lute-list (Renaissance) Ämne: Re: [LUTE] The German lute movement and the guitar-lute Dear Kenneth

[LUTE] Re: The German lute movement and the guitar-lute

Dear Kenneth, thank you for your mail - I didn't know that my article would be of interest to anyone outside Germany although I know that the guitar lute and its relatives were not confined to the German spoken countries. I have not mentioned Scholander because I am unsure about the extent to

[LUTE] Re: Johann Daniel Mylius

Dear Daniel and all, the copy of Mylius, Thesaurus Gratiarum which Pohlmann locates in Berlin is in the Biblioteka Jagielloska, Krak=F3w. The shelf mark is: Mus.ant.pract. G 140 (2). Joachim Ludtke Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thomas: Pohlmann indicates that a copy is in the

Montreal manuscript

Thanks to anyone who responded to my query! I have now received a message from the Bibliothèque du Conservatoire in Montreal and: yes, there's a shelf number for that lute book now: MSS-1. Joachim -- Dr. Joachim Luedtke Frühlingsstraße 9a D - 93164 Laaber Tlf.: ++49 / +9498 / 905 188

Re: Hercules, Catholic mass, and vihuelas.

Dear Herbert, the name/title of Josquin's mass composition is Hercules dux Ferarriae, composed for duke Ercole I. and based on a short melody constructed as to mirror the sound of the latin title in the solmisation syllables of its notes (at least if I remember well - maybe there's a Josquin

Re: Lute on Open Air Festival

Dear all, Years ago when I was playing in an early music ensemble I began to double on wind instruments. On a visit to my parents I took a cornet with me and then went into the fields to practice because I didn't want do disturb my parents. Attracted a large crowd of cows which followed me as

Re: really bad deals and reentrant tuning

Dear Alain, that's wonderful! You saved my evening after a particular hard day. I'm going to try to tune my lute now ... Cheers, Joachim Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On Martedì, giu 8, 2004, at 07:10 Europe/Rome, Jon Murphy wrote: What is re-entrant tuning. --I thought

Re: Fw:

Dear Anne, Matthias, and all: Well, I stand corrected! There are more things between heaven and earth ...=

Re: This is what I've found out....

Hello Anne and all, Aabrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hello Allthough i was told, that my query was ..outside the area of interest = of the subscribers to the Lute Forum, .. sounds like one of my fellow germans ... after all: this is (if not a proper lute in the sense we use the word today)

Re: Est-ce Mars? (fwd)

Pierre Guédron (published 1613)? I'm not sure - maybe he used a preexisting tune Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Who wrote the original song? -- Dr. Joachim Luedtke Frühlingsstraße 9a D - 93164 Laaber Tlf.: ++49 / +9498 / 905 188 Mobil: 0172 / 275 49 48 Mail: [EMAIL

Re: Je by Dowland

Dear Richard, Une jeune fillette / La Monica a.s.o. [Bach: Von Gott will ich nicht lassen (organ) = a spiritual song to the Jeune fillette-Melodie by the swissman Gletting from the sixteenth century] is to be found in so many versions that it would be impossible to name them all in an E-mail.

Re: help with scarce reference books

Dear Gordon, the first and third items are to be found in a library here. I could scan the asked for pages and send them per mail. Boetticher's handout from the first la luth et sa musique-conference - the second item - will be hard to find I suspect. Your sincerely, Joachim Luedtke Dr.

Barlines

Dear Edward, Sean, Stewart and all, for some of the early polyphony in organum style barring is used, if it is notated in non-modal/non-mensural notation (e.g. pieces in neumatic notation in the Codex Calixtinus which - if the dating is still valid - comes from the middle of the twelfth