[LUTE] Re: Hi all

2008-08-30 Thread LGS-Europe
Josh wrote: afford a Lute but I was able to buy a 36 guitar about the size of an old Baroque guitar 36inch as about 91cm ?! That's a pretty large string length ... I have a 52cm 'children's' guitar beside my desk. Low tension strings, no need to say top three of gut, tuned to g'. For a

[LUTE] Re: life or death

2008-08-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Holborne's Last Will and Testament is a good one! As is the Countess of Pembroke's Funerals. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute

[LUTE] Re: life or death

2008-08-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Good tip! David - Original Message - From: Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:13 PM Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: life or death Dear David: 'O dear life' from Musical Banquet appears in an intabulation

[LUTE] Re: Deep Purple

2008-08-21 Thread LGS-Europe
Last year (or was it two years ago?) they filled one of the major football stadiums in Holland with loads and loads of guitarists, just to play Smoke on the Water together. Perhaps time to put on my lute repertoire ... David - smoke on the water, frets on fire

[LUTE] Re: When the poor cripple--possibly consort song

2008-08-17 Thread LGS-Europe
Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 10:57 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: When the poor cripple--possibly consort song

[LUTE] Re: Fuessen lute makers book

2008-08-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Hi Ed No, the book is in Geman. David Is the book in English? ed At 02:23 PM 8/15/2008 +0200, you wrote: I'm sure people will know, but it's just that I didn't and thought it might be of interest to others, too. There's a nice booklet about the lute makers in Fuessen with historical and

[LUTE] Re: Fuessen lute makers book

2008-08-16 Thread LGS-Europe
] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: Henry Villca [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Fuessen lute makers book Hi

[LUTE] Re: When the poor cripple--possibly consort song

2008-08-16 Thread LGS-Europe
the audience. we should ask captain spock about it On Aug 16, 2008, at 5:57 PM, LGS-Europe wrote: John Dowland, A Pilgrimes Solace, nr. 16 Opening measure. Lute starts on an E, goes down to D, next measure back to E. Makes a nice line with the upper voice in the lute part. Now look at the tenor

[LUTE] Re: Lyrics for Robert.

2008-08-01 Thread LGS-Europe
Herbert, It's not in Van der Werf, but I found it in a little booklet by Friedrich Gennrich (Exempla Altfranzoesischer Lyrik, Langen bei Frankfurt, 1965). Find it attached as pdf. enjoy David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl

[LUTE] Re: 1/6 C MT versus Valotti

2008-07-31 Thread LGS-Europe
, this is the temperament my Korg MT-1200 calls Valotti Young, btw. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl Best wishes, Martin LGS-Europe wrote: Bruno wrote: Talking about tuning, my Korg OT-120 has just

[LUTE] Re: 1/6 C MT versus Valotti

2008-07-31 Thread LGS-Europe
David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl Best wishes, Martin LGS-Europe wrote: Bruno wrote: Talking about tuning, my Korg OT-120 has just arrived! Question is: How do I tune to meantone temperament? If I want 1/4.1/6 or 1/8 coma tuning

[LUTE] Re: More on lute songs

2008-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Bruno wrote: Thanks for the info! Is the book from Ian Spink still availlable? I only find used ones... I wouldn't know. I found mine 18 years ago, new, in 'De Slegte', the Dutch bookshop that stocks what we call shop daughters: remains from normal shops and publishers that are sold cheaply

[LUTE] Re: More on lute songs

2008-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
tablatures ought not be regarded like modern urtext editions and that many lutenists, especially professional players, would have added/arranged the accompaniments to suite their individual tastes. MH --- On Sun, 27/7/08, LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: More on lute songs

2008-07-27 Thread LGS-Europe
jejune taste (p. 106) Many of the contents of [Pilkington's] First Booke of Songs (1605) are rather turgid (p.33) And so on. Miserable. Frankly, I would avoid Spink and spend the time on the music instead. P 2008/7/27 LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruno wrote: Thanks for the info

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lutes

2008-07-23 Thread LGS-Europe
Luthier, Martin Shepherd, has contributed a thought-provoking essay on Dowland's lutes (which also touches on string lengths, pitches, etc) to the John Dowland website. I'm sure Martin would be very happy to answer any questions you have after reading it. Please use this discussion group for

[LUTE] Re: Alfabeto songs and editions

2008-07-20 Thread LGS-Europe
I couldn't find your scores on your page, just a reference to this email. Can you tell us where they are? They were hidden in the middle of my screen ... Sorry, found them. Looking good, as ever, and lovely music, of course. I prefer the bass to be under and the vocal part to be on top. Any

[LUTE] Re: Take II: last joints that bend backwards.

2008-07-18 Thread LGS-Europe
How so, Vance? I have a double first course lute too, and don't see the connection. What's different in first and second or third courses? David I will offer my opinion on the right hand. I play a Lute with a doubled first course. Having the ability to collapse the first joint of the digits

[LUTE] Re: Improvising and Composing?

2008-07-08 Thread LGS-Europe
|-- - | / || -r ||-- -/ || -a-||-- - | a/a| Mathias LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Grand staff notation may be useful as far as renaissance music is concerned, but with baroque lute music

[LUTE] Re: Bizarre info request, bordering on advice request

2008-07-07 Thread LGS-Europe
No feathers ruffled here.. What's an EE degree? Isn't it easier to fit an extra neck on an old guitar, and go for something like 10 or 12 single strings? Keep it in E, first two strings down an octave (use a D and an A string) and just use low E strings for the bourdons? You could use the

[LUTE] Re: Lute DSP

2008-07-05 Thread LGS-Europe
this is Lute DSP DSP? Digital signal processing? Divine sensory perception? DSP, Good sir, what is that, I pray you tell me. [Did I pick up this thread in mid flight? (Should that be mid spin?)] So far I have come up with D Student Programme. Stuck with the D. Dilligent is good candidate,

[LUTE] Re: Messiah ...

2008-07-03 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Elly A friend of mine would like to know if anyone knows of an edition of Handel's /Messiah/ which has the figured bass rather than a realisation ? He's wanting it for a performance where he'll be accompanying on theorbo ... I bought the Baerenreiter pocket score, largely unfigured, but

[LUTE] Re: Messiah ...

2008-07-03 Thread LGS-Europe
Figured bass continuo part http://scores.ccarh.org/handel/messiah/continuo/cont21.pdf Thank you, Arthur! Much clearer than my copied cello part with pencilled in figures. I'll use this part next time. I find Handel confusing at times: easy figures, very predictable, so almost possible

[LUTE] Re: Archlute strings

2008-07-01 Thread LGS-Europe
Daniel wrote: -- David - has a 61/106cm archlute with single basses I see we are in the same ballpark. Is yours based on a particular historical model? Mine was just a salvage operation, (done as a favor), on an old, small 10 course. It's a combination of my wishes and the maker's ideas,

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-07-01 Thread LGS-Europe
I found these pictures and text explaining how to split a feather and make one of the resulting halves of the tip (the bit stuck into the bird) into a plectrum, much like a pen, very instructive:

[LUTE] Re: Archlute strings

2008-07-01 Thread LGS-Europe
one over 155cm. Size matters in small planes and taxis. It certainly does. Toy planes are historically incorrect. ROTFLOL! Actually, the instrument took shape in my head when I visited the instrument museum in Paris one fine afternoon before playing an evening concert on the larger

[LUTE] Re: London Manuscript revisited.

2008-06-28 Thread LGS-Europe
Next, I appreciate that this piece is for Baroque Lute and that the tuning is therefore I think different to 8 course, but can it be transposed to 8 course? No. But it can be arranged for 8-course. Question is how well this can be done. But it won't the same as the original, that's for sure.

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-28 Thread LGS-Europe
I'm just an occasional dabbler in plectrum technique and I'm getting really confused! Two related things are bothering me - which end of the damned feather to use, and (difficult to phrase this one), wobbly or stiff? A guitar string (or presumably a lute string) or the thin end of a feather

[LUTE] Re: Tempus est iocundum - original melody

2008-06-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Jolly, indeed. Btw, what's all the advertisement on the right hand got to do with it, who thinks these companies, or what they sell, have anything to do with mandolins? Trendy tankini of bikini Extreme Micro Bikinis Hot Celeb Girl Pics Badkleding Salty Dog Free Weekly Horoscope David -

[LUTE] Re: Fly Foot Meantone

2008-06-20 Thread LGS-Europe
dt wrote: I have been using David van Ooijen's system for some time now and it works perfectly. Glad it worked for you. Sounds like an advertisement actually, so here's my part of the commercial: I've updated bit by bit my DIY mean-tone page, included calculations for 1/6 pythagorean comma

[LUTE] Re: Singing English Lute Songs

2008-06-17 Thread LGS-Europe
made the remark that not all lute songs are for one to four voices. Point taken; a few have a fifth part. Dowland's 'Welcome Black Night' comes to mind. Cleare or Coudie, also second book. David David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl

[LUTE] Re: New Baroque lute/Meantone

2008-06-17 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Anthony Forget the details. If you're happy with your top string a little lower than whatever (i.e. just below breaking point), but some table (i. e. mine) says that for some particular flavour of some particular temperament (i.e. 1/6 meantone) your top string should be a little higher

[LUTE] lute songs by counter-tenors

2008-06-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Martin Shepherd brought up the subject a while ago, with the thought-provoking comments by David Hill. Here's an eyes (ear?) wittness report by someone who should know what lute songs are all about: ... Song was sung by an excellent counter-tenor voice, with rare varietie of division. (Thomas

[LUTE] Re: Singing English Lute Songs

2008-06-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Stewart was kind of enough to find no less than nine spelling mistakes and made the remark that not all lute songs are for one to four voices. Point taken; a few have a fifth part. Dowland's 'Welcome Black Night' comes to mind. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: CD Von edler Art in Cleveland

2008-06-14 Thread LGS-Europe
And a lovely cd it is. Let her bring 10. ;-) David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: Michal Gondko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [LUTE] lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, June

[LUTE] Re: baroque lute song accompaniments

2008-06-09 Thread LGS-Europe
Kremberg comes to mind. David - Original Message - From: Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] baroque lute song accompaniments Dear Collected Wisdom, I'm trying to get my hands on some songs with

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-07 Thread LGS-Europe
David T. wrote: I take the quill and iron it with a heavy iron, then shape it. First iron, or first split the feather? Feather of what bird? Do you use the tip or the end of the feather? Quill sounds like tip to me. There are a number of other materials you can use, including thin strips of

[LUTE] Re: lute songs

2008-06-07 Thread LGS-Europe
Martin Thank you for forwarding David Hill's email, it does raise interesting issues. Just a few points. You wrote: I have some reasons to believe that Dowland would have expected to hear his songs about a tone or perhaps even a minor third below modern pitch Why? if we allow a

[LUTE] medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread LGS-Europe
How do people make their (medieval) plectra? I have chopped up and sanded down some turkey feathers, different techniques, different thickness/stiffnes, but I'm only half convinced of the sound. Advice much appreciated. David - To be honest, I still like my Fender heavy best, but it looks soo

[LUTE] Re: look what the cat brought in

2008-06-05 Thread LGS-Europe
Me neither, pity indeed. Might have been fun. Like the Finnish cello octet that plays Metallica. Awsome, as our Americans friends would say. ;-) David - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday

[LUTE] Re: medieval plectrum, how to make?

2008-06-05 Thread LGS-Europe
Eugène wrote: I have used goose quill prepared following this procedure: http://www.mandolincafe.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=263874652887a855b1a3a0ff8f6a6f14;act=ST;f=6;t=15088 .. etc. I have found excellent and consistent results using a particular model of Bic pen:

[LUTE] Re: What if a day

2008-05-29 Thread LGS-Europe
Speaking of lute songs, does anyone know where to find a renaissance version of What if a day with tab accompaniment? You can use version in Poulton's Dowland book to make an accompaniment. It's also in Valerius as Merck toch hoe Sterck, I'll send you the version I made for a workshop once.

[LUTE] Re: Lute songs

2008-05-29 Thread LGS-Europe
Bruno I have many recordings of lute songs, but I don't recall hearing the shades you mention (next time I'll hear them more carefully). .. We have to be carefull with recordings because anything is possible in terms of blending (just to remember classical guitar and orquestra!), but live is

[LUTE] Re: strumming

2008-05-29 Thread LGS-Europe
''As for the proposed idea of soundboard bars getting loose, there are some precautionary measures against this in your guitar - bar end supports. So with the kind of strumming / hitting that you do the bars should be fine, unless you hit really hard.'' I should add that I don't actually hit

[LUTE] meantone fretting table

2008-05-25 Thread LGS-Europe
For the sceptics, those who don't want to do their own math, for the math challenged, for the kind, and not so kind, messages on- as well as off-list, in person even (hoi Taco!) but most of all for all of you who, with me, consider this to be a complicated issue anyway and who welcome every bit

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi Concerto as lute solo

2008-05-15 Thread LGS-Europe
By the way, is it known, in which pitch Vivaldi's orchestra was using? The short answer is no. To answer the question, we'd have to be sure where he was when he wrote it (he toured around a great deal) Search the archives. Last year (?) the collected wisdom answered my queries about this

[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas

2008-04-19 Thread LGS-Europe
Anthony Susato was born in Cologne I read he was born is Soest (The Netherlands), hence his name. We were both right, but I was wrong in assuming Soest in The Netherlands, there is another Soest. This is what the New Grove has to say: Susato, Tylman [Tielman] (b c1510-1515, Soest, nr

[LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas

2008-04-19 Thread LGS-Europe
Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane, Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas Grey-bearded windband players are highly familiar with the venerable Schott edition in two small booklets of this work with small print and other faults, Alamire has very affordable facsimiles

[LUTE] Re: Hurel

2008-04-12 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Tony I have the 1996 Minkoff facsimile. In its colofon it says it is printed with the permission of the Piermont Morgan Library, New York, the owner of the ms. It also says photocopy prohibited. If your copy has modern folio numbers on the right hand bottom of every other page, it's a

[LUTE] Re: Asking for Help with Chaccone by Robert de Visee in G dur

2008-04-04 Thread LGS-Europe
Hi Anton I would like to ask you for help. I have been playing the Chaccone in G by Robert de Visee from the Saizenay Manuscript. But I hear a much more extended version of the piece performed by Yasunori Immamura and Jose Miguel Moreno on thir CDs. It has beautiful minor section with 16th

[LUTE] Re: Telemann Hochzeitscantata

2008-03-30 Thread LGS-Europe
Thomas wrote: You'll find many of his music (and a lot of unpublished and unknown music) in Frankfurt http://telemann.info/ http://www.stadtgeschichte-ffm.de/artikel/telemann.html I regret I don't know if the Cantata in question is in the Frankfurt collection. No, it is not. But thanks for

[LUTE] Re: Heinichen for theorbo

2008-03-28 Thread LGS-Europe
LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm to play the Heinichen concerto in D for flute, oboe, violins, cello, theorbo and bc (Seibel 226) next month. Anybody ever did this before and remember what instrument he/she used? It says tiorba in the autograph. The range is A1 till a'. C and C# are both

[LUTE] Re: Buying Francesco da Milano - Ness

2008-03-27 Thread LGS-Europe
I suppose most of us are aware of the Seicento edition of Francesco's Gesammelte Lautenwerke. The content is a Ness copy, Ness order even, in french tab only. It's cheap (ring bound) and available. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl

[LUTE] Heinichen for theorbo

2008-03-27 Thread LGS-Europe
I'm to play the Heinichen concerto in D for flute, oboe, violins, cello, theorbo and bc (Seibel 226) next month. Anybody ever did this before and remember what instrument he/she used? It says tiorba in the autograph. The range is A1 till a'. C and C# are both needed, as are E and E-flat, F and

[LUTE] Re: Nina bass line

2008-03-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Arthur wrote: Separately I sent a reference for the authentic edition of the Italian anthology (ed. Paton). The one you were looking for. Yes, a good edition actually. It has the songs from Arie Antiche with good translations, pronounciation guide, facsimile if available and a more 'hip'

[LUTE] Re: name that composer

2008-03-24 Thread LGS-Europe
These are the Italian originals Dering added English lyrics to in his edition of 1620. I'm interested in the names of the Italian composers. But the concert is in two hours from now. ;-) Anybody? David - Original Message - From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: Capos

2008-03-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Must have sent too many mails today, as this one never arrived: Stewart wrote: The big problem is having a capo which provides enough pressure to hold all the strings down without buzzing. Modern ones use elastic or a kind of spring mechanism, but I don't know how feasible that was in the

[LUTE] Re: name that composer

2008-03-24 Thread LGS-Europe
Thank you, Benjamin, that was helpful in that I now know I'm not the only one who doesn't know. ;-) David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *NEWLY IDENTIFIED ITALIAN MADRIGALS * Copy paste try

[LUTE] Re: Nina bass line

2008-03-24 Thread LGS-Europe
with a Japanese singer with Japanese and Western music. Very intercultural, but basically a good excuse to eat exclusively Japanese food for two weeks, of course. ;-) nogmaals bedankt! David - Original Message - From: Jelma van Amersfoort [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LGS-Europe [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Nina bass line

2008-03-23 Thread LGS-Europe
PLEASE look for it, Roman. Are you certain? It's from a dramma giocoso dated ca. 1747. So in 1747 the accompaniment would probably be orchestra. Here's a poor score from those song antholgies: http://www.el-atril.com/partituras/Pergolesi/Nina.pdf Thank you, Arthur, but I have that, or its

[LUTE] name that composer

2008-03-23 Thread LGS-Europe
Tomorrow I'll have a little concert with some three- and four-part songs, which after a quick internet search I gather were taken taken from Musica Britannica volume 25. The singers gave me the copies without knowing the composers. Can someone with the book identify the composers from the

[LUTE] Nina bass line

2008-03-22 Thread LGS-Europe
I have to reverse engineer a 'proper' bass line to Nina (canzonetta), long wrongly attributed to Pergolesi but actually by Legrenzi Ciampi (1719-?). All I have is the well-known Arie Antique version, but I am hpoing there is a continuo bass to the original. I know the Arie Antique have a new

[BAROQUE-LUTE] new Satoh cd

2008-03-19 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear all Ed already mentioned it: Toyohiko Satoh released a new cd with music by Le Sage de Richee. It's on his all-gut, original Greiff. In May I'll bring more copies from Japan, but today I received a few already. It's 25 euro including pp, 20 euro more for each additional cd (e.g.

[LUTE] Re: On-line Spanish Keyboard Music

2008-03-06 Thread LGS-Europe
Muchas Gracias! David - Original Message - From: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: [LUTE] On-line Spanish Keyboard Music This multi-volume collection of Spanish keyboard music may be of interest to some

[LUTE] Re: Ode for St Cecilia's Day

2008-03-02 Thread LGS-Europe
Are wrote: Mozart added a lute part to the flute ad libitum in the end: more broken chords. I guess this is Mozart's collected output of lute music!? Three songs with mandolin. Does that qualify? The LGS (that's us!) has publishged a collection of 21 songs with accompaniments for 10-course

[LUTE] Re: Ode for St Cecilia's Day

2008-03-02 Thread LGS-Europe
Mathias wrote: Measures 5-8 (first solo) I'd feel kinda nude if I was supposed to play the solo notes only. [...] The same applies to measure 10. Okay, I give in, but then I'd REALLY have to play as LOUD as I can. Why? The lute is solo but for the soft complaining flute. But, sure, continuo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread LGS-Europe
Rob wrote: I've just been thinking about Bach's bass lines (not the lute/violin/cello suites) and the impossibility of playing them as written on either a baroque lute (either swan or bass rider), an Italian theorbo or a German Continuo theorbo - only the Gallichon seems capable, and even

[LUTE] Re: Signor Tiorba

2008-02-09 Thread LGS-Europe
I bought the Grove 1911 from NPC. Or, actually, received it as a free gift when I bought the complete digital Bach I think. Anyway, some two-in-one offer a while ago. David T. is right: it is both entertaining and edifying to read the old editions. But think of it: when new information is

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

2008-02-08 Thread LGS-Europe
Martyn wrote: If you have anything like the Praetorius, Mace, Picinni, Talbot evidence on large theorbos but clearly relating to smalI instruments in this tuning, I'd like to see it please. So far we have seen evidence of reentrant tuning for large theorbos, thank you for the references.

[LUTE] Re: piece of the month revived

2008-02-08 Thread LGS-Europe
Martin I liked the ones without reverb, by far. The reverb sounds like you're in a big room but play behind a screen: all muffled and shy, not at all like the room acoustics would invite you to play! Just my two eurocents (which many shops already don't accept anymore, anyway). David

[LUTE] Re: Pittoni's theorbo?

2008-02-05 Thread LGS-Europe
FWIW, I play Pittoni with first two courses down, but refinger some passages to make 'more sense' in a melodic way. I'm aware that it is my sense, not Pittoni's, that I'm adjusting the music to. Here I am reminded of a wise lesson of Bob Spencer: Any alteration you make in an original, you

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

2008-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
To the benefit of those not interested in a peeing contest but in theories on theorbo stringing, as I am, and not in the happy possesion of a list of historical theorbos stating string length and setup, here's what the guys are talking about (info taken from one of the Pohlmanns lying around

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

2008-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
instrument, it works with your strings and your instrument. There will be a working range of tunings, d and a included. Anyway, nominal tunings are just naming conventions in a transposing world, with a floating pitch on top of that! David MH LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

2008-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
sure. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl Jurek ___ On 2008-01-31, at 17:25, LGS-Europe wrote: I've already very clearly explained how small theorboes (ie up to low 80s) were tuned

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

2008-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
I don't. I keep mine (76cm) in a, first two courses down. All gut, 415 to 466 tested. I don't see the point why not. I haven't seen valid and or historical arguments against it. It would work in d too, I'm sure. David I understand you, David, very well, I've also got older living for

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G? Plus some guidelines

2008-01-31 Thread LGS-Europe
Lost in cybervoid. So her once more: I don't. I keep mine (76cm) in a, first two courses down. All gut, 415 to 466 tested. I don't see the point why not. I haven't seen valid and or historical arguments against it. It would work in d too, I'm sure. David I understand you, David, very

[LUTE] Re: All JSB from china or russia

2008-01-30 Thread LGS-Europe
The complete Bach-Gesellschaft Edition (1851-1900) has been for some time in the public domain. I believe he rather wants to learn about safe sources of pirated music. Mustafa, this is not the place to ask for such things. No, indeed, there are those among us that publish music and

[LUTE] Re: Typesetting scores

2008-01-29 Thread LGS-Europe
Rocky Your score has given me the idea to try your method, but making a font with no noteheads for quarter note, eighth, etc., but to keep the half and whole as they are. Mass Mover = Utilities = Change = Noteheads = Selected Notehead Here you can change black notehead to no notehead

[LUTE] Re: Siting

2008-01-29 Thread LGS-Europe
They seem to harvest from publicly available material. I find myself in a few clips taken from my site. David - Original Message - From: G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:04 AM Subject: [LUTE] Siting

[LUTE] Re: guitar stringing

2008-01-29 Thread LGS-Europe
OK, I'll join in after all. I already send my stringing off-list to Ed, but as people seem to be just as shy, or confused about it as I am, here goes nothing: I have a 68cm Sellas model made by Stephen Barber. It's in 440, 415 or whatever needed. This is what's on it (all plain gut),

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Russian Bach site?

2008-01-29 Thread LGS-Europe
I have some of the discs from this box. The chamber music and a few cantatas. Quite all right if you want it all, and want it cheap. Some is really good, some is passable. Some are old recordings, some are purpose made for the box. I think I'm in the cantatas. These cds are sold under the

[LUTE] Re: Typesetting scores (was Re: Le Cocq - scores)

2008-01-27 Thread LGS-Europe
Hi Rocky Long time no see, great to hear you're playing. I have used Finale for years (for music notation and tabs) and it .. I also have created custom fonts to make some notation challenges easier. I'm a heavy Finale user too, including tabs, especially since that has become a lot

[LUTE] Re: Fasch concerto for two Chalcedons

2008-01-25 Thread LGS-Europe
let's get two lutes? The Fasch conerto as well as the Trauerode don't have really independant parts, so much doubling. Not much musical need for two pluckers. So, anybody with more than a wild guess? David LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rather OT on the Karamazov list, but I'll give

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Amateur Recording

2008-01-23 Thread LGS-Europe
Stephen gimped basses from Gamut. I used an Edirol R-1 24-bit recorder, an M-Audio Duo preamp, and an NTK Rode NTK microphone (something the guy in the guitar shop sold me before I read David Taylor's advice) FWIW, I am satisfied with my Rodes microphones, value for money I'd say. A bit of

[LUTE] Re: mandora/gallichon music

2008-01-22 Thread LGS-Europe
I have the Brussells MS of mandora music Conservatoire Royal de Musique de Bruxelles MS 5.619 Beautiful and affordable facsimile from Editions Culture et Civilisation (Bruxelles, 1979). Also good if you want to play some easy baroque music on guitar (for yourself or your guitar pupils!).

[LUTE] Re: Albrechtsberger

2008-01-21 Thread LGS-Europe
Oops, sorry to Pietro and David - I hope you are not offended by my comment. It did bring a broad smile to my face, though, which is not such a bad thing these days. Rob I was laughing out loud the full week of receiving the music, chuckling during rehearsals and smiling during the concert.

[LUTE] Re: Albrechtsberger

2008-01-21 Thread LGS-Europe
is easier for G+, but sounds not well for E+. bast wishes Pietro -Messaggio originale- Da: LGS-Europe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: lunedì 21 gennaio 2008 10.36 A: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: Albrechtsberger Oops, sorry to Pietro and David - I hope you

[LUTE] Re: Albrechtsberger

2008-01-20 Thread LGS-Europe
Is this for real? The funniest baroque music I've ever heard: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Albrechtsberger-Concertos-Jews-Harp-Mandora/dp/B 05975/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8 It's for real. In 2006 I had the pleasure of playing one of Albrechtsberger's concerto's for Jew's harp and Mandora. this is

[LUTE] Re: banchieri and the Theorbo in G

2008-01-16 Thread LGS-Europe
Unfortunately my work it's in Italian only. It was written 12 years ago and I'm now working again on it, for a printed version. What you read is just a draft copy. Pretty good for a draft copy, I'd say. Thank you for sharing this with us. David David van Ooijen

[LUTE] Re: recording with ZOOM H2

2008-01-13 Thread LGS-Europe
Well done. Nice playing in the piece from the Lochamer Liederbuch. And a nice piece it is! Is the book available somewhere? David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl - Original Message - From: wolfgang

[LUTE] Re: Good Friday music

2008-01-11 Thread LGS-Europe
Schuetz has already been mentioned, there's an a cappella Passion by him that is great, but his smaller works give much to choose that you might like. Praetorius has lots of 1/2/3/4/5/6 part music also very suitable for making your own suite or 'passion' music. Four singers and a lute are

[LUTE] Re: tuner

2007-12-18 Thread LGS-Europe
Welcome, Howard, and thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have tuning forks in 415, 430 and 440, three tuners (the first, a programmable second, a tiny clip-on third), tell myself I should only tune by ear, but am sorely tempted by this new gadget ... David - Original Message

[LUTE] Re: Italian texts - help needed

2007-12-17 Thread LGS-Europe
Rob What a work, especially when you could also spend your time playing your new lute... Just some thoughts: - Alfabetto is not always in agreement with the suggested harmony (or even figures when printed) in bass and melody. - There are more ways of figuring a Kapsberger song, so writing

[LUTE] Re: transposing archlute and baroque pitch

2007-12-10 Thread LGS-Europe
As said: I don't really see why I should go to the considerable trouble of listing the many scholarly papers and books which have dealt with this In some usages Rome pitch was considerably higher than current A440 I wrote: This is tantalizing (assuming you're talking about 17th-century

[LUTE] Re: Old lutes...

2007-12-07 Thread LGS-Europe
Dear Arto I find my older lutes still improving, like good wines. The young ones still have much to learn and need to grow. So don't sell your older Barbers yet, if only because they might fetch a higher price when still older! ;-) David - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: transposing archlute

2007-12-07 Thread LGS-Europe
think more or less in d'). When it's really tricky I write out a transposed bass, though. Still a lot to learn, then. David - tired and cold, but happy, after a rehearsal of Bach's Magnificat. To Andreas: I could play all! More on this appears in the archives of FoMRHI Quarterly. MH LGS

[LUTE] Re: Musical Form Analysis

2007-12-05 Thread LGS-Europe
It's not exactly what you're looking for, but comes close. Fuzea Editions of France has a (cheap at 17,50 euros) edition of 50 Standards of the Renaisance and Baroque eras. Theme + bass and figures. Variations of the themes and variations on the themes. Some in different keys. Very convenient

[LUTE] Re: full text to Ave, ancilla trinitatis

2007-11-25 Thread LGS-Europe
Rather OT, but does anybody have for me the full text to 'Ave, ancilla trinitatis'? I have seen references to an antiphon, Ave Maria, Ancilla Trinitatis, if the same you have more hits to peruse. Dear Dana It's almost the same, but not quite. It does help, though. Thanks. And I found a

[LUTE] Re: Tuning blues

2007-11-20 Thread LGS-Europe
In case someone doesn't know it, there's an enjoyable paper by Ross Duffin online: Why I hate Valotti (or is it Young?): http://music.cwru.edu/duffin/ Regards, Stephan How nice to be validated! Thank you so much for the above reference- great article. When I was actively messing around with

[LUTE] Re: Meantone fretting '......as all my notes match the organ's.'

2007-11-14 Thread LGS-Europe
to tune to your chaotic fretting). MH LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, this mail went to Martyn only. I always try to keep sending just one copy, and to the list. Wrong button. Martyn wrote in responce (I didn't find that mail in my Lute List folder either) As I originally

[LUTE] Re: Double Meantone

2007-11-11 Thread LGS-Europe
David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl MH LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't yet see how the second fret can be minus 7 for B and plus 7 for G but once I try it perhaps I will see. Deviations from ET

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