Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-21 Thread Kimber Gardner
David, Thanks so much for this excellent explanation of threading Until I read it, and had an opportunity to work with your instructions, I really didn't like the new format of the mail app. But now everything has changed for me. Thanks again for the great instructions. Sent from Kimber's

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
It seems to work fairly well, but I don't have much to compare to, and I stay in the DC area. There are certainly some dead spots, but then antenna farms 1 mile from Langley are probably dead spots for all. Also, in the subway tunnels west of DC I get 1x connectivity. Also, sometimes the LTE

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Simon Fogarty
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes I do, and have always done the same thing. I used to be a photographer and darkroom technician for the city of San Jose Police Department. I could be working with film in total darkness. And I'd be staring right at what I'm doing. Even

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Scott Granados
What’s your opinion of Sprint today if you’re still on the network? I was a sprint fan up until they tried WIMAX and totally in my opinion screwed their attempt at 4G just to be first. Also had see a real fall off in the 3G network once they got the iPhone which hammered their network. They

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Jonathan Cohn
After leaving Sprint mobileGeo was a survival tool while wandering the streets of Columbus, OHwhile working as a consultant. Most of you had left for iPhones by then but being qa Sprint user all the back to Sprint PCS , i had to wait until the 4s before using an iPhon I wish I still had my 1993

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Donna Goodin
That's so true, Kawal. I think the first thing that gave me iPhone envy was seeing those old App store commercials, remember? "There's an app for that!" :) Cheers, Donna > On Sep 17, 2016, at 7:28 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > But you all remember using mobile speak

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Scott Granados
+1 on mobile geo. I remember my little Holux M1000 GPS receiver and PPC-6850 was a pretty good combination. I’ve always liked that solution better than the newer off the shelf products. > On Sep 17, 2016, at 8:28 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > But you all remember using

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Scott Granados
Same with hover boards last holiday season. They got banned on planes and public transit as well. Lithium batteries aren’t trivial to design. You can put your chemistry together incorrectly and if you get to a certain temperature you get a thermal run away condition. As I said on another

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
But you all remember using mobile speak you couldn’t use many applications. Mail was good and so was Skype I remember but if you wanted something that mobile speak didn’t work with you were stuffed. The only great thing I really liked with Mobile speak was Braille output and Mobile GEO. That

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread d . prater
All they really have to do for me is fix the focusing and braille issues, and I’ll be fine with it. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Devin Prater From: Kawal Gucukoglu -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
What’s wrong with the changes for mail on the I phone? Even though I have not got my new phone yet and after updating my 6 Plus S playing with mail, at first I thought it a big deal but once I got the hang of it no problem at all. I actually like it. Just what I think. Kawal. > On 16 Sep

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
The whole Samsung/battery issue reminds me of the Nokia phones way back in the Symbian days. I don’t remember if there were the batteries or if there were special phone models involved, but every now and then you heard stories of new Nokia phones catching fire. /Krister > 16 sep. 2016 kl.

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2016-09-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Will i’ve got a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. So much for having a burning desire to change operating systems for a while.:-) /Krister > 16 sep. 2016 kl. 23:22 skrev Robin : > > Thanx 4 Sharin', Didn't know that. I'm just Curious why it took SoLong for > Samsung's GalaxyS7

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-17 Thread Krister Ekstrom
done >>> with a blood test, so captain hook would be able to help get the blood out! >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@goog

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Mary Otten
gt;> Christopher Gilland >> JAWS Certified, 2016. >> Training Instructor. >> >> i...@gillandmarketing.com >> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - >> From: David Chittenden >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, Septembe

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Instructor. i...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: David Chittenden To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:54 PM Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes Did you ever have vision? Are you low vision now? I know

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
t; --- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > i...@gillandmarketing.com > Phone: (704) 256-8010. > - Original Message - > From: David Chittenden > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 4:58

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
- From: David Chittenden To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 4:58 PM Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes I have an LG Nexus 9 (Google Android) tablet which runs stock Android. The right angle gestures are the current downfall of that system. I am

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
ng things corrected >> quickly and they do appreciate it. >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 11:35 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >&g

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
t;>> >>>> Um, that type of prostate exam would probably be ok, because it's now done >>>> with a blood test, so captain hook would be able to help get the blood out! >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> Fro

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
So the problem turns out that Samsung was not responding to complaints from users. Once the US government got involved more started to come out. The two phones they mentioned by name other than the Note 7 are the S7 (didn’t say edge or regular) and the Core which I’m not familiar. I’m with

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
: IOS10 Mail app changes You know the Samsung devices have a custom interface that is much more iPhone like. That makes it easier for some to transition over. I have my issues with Samsung but others may have a better time of it and that’s one similarity that may make it easier and worth while

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
11:35 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes > > You know what would be nice too, is if we were less anal about the public > beta and discussed these major changes openly so people aren’t surprised.

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Mary Otten
t;>> >>>> Um, that type of prostate exam would probably be ok, because it's now done >>>> with a blood test, so captain hook would be able to help get the blood out! >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> Fro

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes You know what would be nice too, is if we were less anal about the public beta and discussed these major changes openly so people aren’t surprised. The Cheree’s of the world could elect not to update for example until a satisfactory alternative presents itself

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
You know, after our exchange this morning, I was wondering about Carlos, too. Last I heard, he graduated and got a job at a bank, I think. Has anyone heard from him? Cheers, Donna > On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > If memory serves that’s where we

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
--- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
If memory serves that’s where we met I think on that mobile speak list. Kawal as well, I think Mark was over there with us, Donna and what ever happened to Carlos palomino? I’m trying to remember I think Ricardo goes that far back as well, I’m sure I’m forgetting a bunch. I’ve seen a lot of

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Robin
Thanx 4 Sharin', Didn't know that. I'm just Curious why it took SoLong for Samsung's GalaxyS7 & GalaxyS7Edge MobilePhones to CatchFire as you have implied based on Stories you heard from (what I beleive) are National Media OutLets What's Next? Will My GalaxyS6Edge catch Fire? DoubtIt I've

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
and whether you have a fire proof place to run the phone. CNBC is running a piece on the S7 now and how it may be added to the recall as they are catching fire it turns out as well. > On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Robin wrote: > > Samsung > NuffSaid > > Although it

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
No they wouldn’t move as fast because they still have to push the update through the manufacturer. That adds delay, they could have never fixed the phone this quickly and I had this happen to me on my S5. A bad T-Mobile update caused a memory leak, took to long to fix I ended up shooting the

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
onaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 1:46 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes >> >> Michael you’re right and just try using Android. It’s like getting a >> prostate exam from Captain

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden
I also came from Code Factory's Mobile Pocket PC. Save for the onscreen keyboard, that package turned the touch-screen into four buttons. I definitely prefer the modern way of doing touch-screens for the blind. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

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2016-09-16 Thread E.T.
Robin, Is your space bar worn out? The lack of spaces between words makes for difficult reading. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/16/2016 11:48 AM, Robin wrote: I suggest you SendFeedBack ConstructiveFeedBack concernin' YourIssues

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Robin
I suggest you SendFeedBack ConstructiveFeedBack concernin' YourIssues AsItPertainsTo Apple's iOS10 At 06:47 PM 9/15/2016, you wrote: That's nonsense. I pay exactly the same amount for my Apple products as anyone else. Apple claims universal design. When design changes or functional alterations

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Robin
Samsung NuffSaid Although it might NOT be OnPar with Accessibility as Apple for Some, but for Others it is It depends ON YourLevel of TechSavy Skills to TroubleShoot problems, which may arise At 06:44 PM 9/15/2016, you wrote: You tell it to the universe. We are using a product that is

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Robin
That's NOT Fair You're comparin' Apples A fairer comparison would be: TMobile havin' an Issue/Problem with AnAndroidDevice would TMobile Moved as Quick with ThisIssue of Service, I presume So JustSayin' It's not AnApple iOS issue for iOSUsers with Other MobileCariers It's simply confined to

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread E.T.
The voice (a sane one) of reason speaks. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/16/2016 8:09 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, It's interesting to me how many proclaim that change to an interface or interaction is counterproductive or backwards

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
ado...@me.com> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:57 AM Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes This is very good to hear. Hopefully, they've lost that jerk T.V. Rahman. I hope you are right, I think it's always better to have more choices. Cheers,

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It's interesting to me how many proclaim that change to an interface or interaction is counterproductive or backwards intuitive. Each time Apple, Microsoft ()sorry for swearing on list), or Google change something that we are all used to doing, a loud and, often, obnoxious noise is heard.

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
I think your dead on. I think there are different mind sets as well. I think some who may be more technical or more of an engineering mindset like Android. The openness, the way things are done etc. Where others just want to use the phone not get under the hood. That’s an interesting

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
of preference. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 3:15 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@go

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
You know, that's interesting. I've had a similar experience watching my parents with iPads and iPhones, but what's funny is that my dad, who was a programmer back in the days of punch cards and computers that took up an entire large room, has found the iPhone difficult to get used to, whereas

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Krister Ekstrom
my device of preference. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 3:15 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
You know you make a really interesting point. Thinking back on it, I went from a PPC-6850 to an iPod. I remember breaking that guy out of the box and just sort of nudeling around with it for a few minutes and I’d say with in an hour I was comfortable with the very basics. I remember taking a

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
This is very good to hear. Hopefully, they've lost that jerk T.V. Rahman. I hope you are right, I think it's always better to have more choices. Cheers, Donna > On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:48 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I’ll do it publicly online so people can follow along

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
ust because it's my device of preference. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 3:15 PM >> To: macvisionaries@google

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2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
Wow, there's a blast from the past! :) You're dead on, Scott. It's funny to think how revolutionary those MobileSpeak phones seemed at the time, and I would agree, it totally changed my professional and personal life. Yet now it kind of seems like typing on an old manual typewriter. I think

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
I’ll do it publicly online so people can follow along through the frustrations and successes. The android world has changed massively since 2010. Really until a few months ago it was pretty pitiful. Victor and his team took talkback to a new level though recently. Seems like changes

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
ause it's my device of preference. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 3:15 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
o help get the blood out! > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 1:46 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS10 Mai

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Donna Goodin
Keep us all posted on this, Scott. I will be very interested to hear about your experience. I tried an Android phone--several of them, actually--back in 2010, and found it to be utterly inferior to the iPhone experience in just about every way. I assume Android accessibility has made some

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
You know what’s interesting, I did find the touch screen very intuitive but let me qualify that. I was using touch screens before the apple products. I was one of several on this list who go back to the Mobile speak days on Pocket PC devices. While it seems hokey today at that time that was

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
You know what would be nice too, is if we were less anal about the public beta and discussed these major changes openly so people aren’t surprised. The Cheree’s of the world could elect not to update for example until a satisfactory alternative presents itself or not update at all putting the

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Scott Granados
I sure am but the pure android experience not one rebaked by another vendor. Google hasn’t released their devices yet. I’d like to do a comparison so I’ll use the 7+ and when the Nexus replacements come out I’ll put down the 7+ and move the SIM to the new phone and compare. This way it’s a

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 3:15 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes OK, Scott. But weren't you going to try a more recent android experience? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, a

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes I actually think Apple does better than the alternatives for accessibility. I don't have a clue what to do with a lot of the new features and user interface changes. But there's an on / off switch for everything. If I ever find a use for these features I don't

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
1 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes Firing range?? LOL Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:44, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Cheree, you’re not going anywhere. Even if you don’t like the change in mail

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 1:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes Michael you’re right and just try using Android. It’s like getting a prostate exam from Captain Hook. > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:40 PM, michael babcock <michael.babcoc...@gma

RE: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
with mail otherwise I’m not seeing any thing I don’t like thus far. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Friday, 16 September 2016 1:27 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Joseph Hudson
--- > Christopher Gilland > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com> > Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - >> From: Cheree Heppe <mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com> >&g

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
What is streamline and what is intuitive? The first time you used a touch device, I daresay, you did not find it intuitive. I know I didn't. Now you and I are used to using the Mail app, for instance, in a certain way. What if it could be pointed out to you, as David did in his post, how to

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
I'm not actually sure how different this is for sighted people. The only sighted person I know, make that two people, who have I devices, haven't upgraded yet. So in terms of design, it may be that it visually resembles the Mac, but it may also be that the change is no big deal for decided

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
OK, Scott. But weren't you going to try a more recent android experience? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:46 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Michael you’re right and just try using Android. It’s like getting a > prostate exam from Captain Hook. > > >

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Mary Otten
I think where Apple could do better would be in releasing some documentation regarding how voiceover users are supposed to deal with things that have substantially changed. I don't agree that things have to stay the same. And David's discussion of how to deal with the email was very good. I

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
That is one area Android does excel. The customizability is nice especially with things being so open but the fighting with the accessibility tools and instability just ain’t worth the openness. Although, Victor and the rest of the talkback team are definitely heading in the right direction.

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2016-09-15 Thread Blee Blat
I actually think Apple does better than the alternatives for accessibility. I don't have a clue what to do with a lot of the new features and user interface changes. But there's an on / off switch for everything. If I ever find a use for these features I don't understand, then I can re-enable

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
Yes, I’m a huge gun collector and fire arms enthusiast. Hazards of being raised by a Marine. I like blowing things up and shooting inanimate objects. Phones that don’t behave are fun, so are propane tanks. Lol but off topic so I’ll stop here. > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:51 PM, Cheree Heppe

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Cheree Heppe
Firing range?? LOL Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 18:44, Scott Granados wrote: > > Cheree, you’re not going anywhere. Even if you don’t like the change in > mail. If you think that’s tricky try using Android. Android is a joke of an > operating system in

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
Sorry CHeree, you’re on the pipe on this one and dead wrong. Where are you going to go, to the fragmented world of android? Use the different finger move and progress forward. I was unhappy until I read David’s response with some good detailed usage tips and it’s smoothed out a lot. Use

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Cheree Heppe
That's nonsense. I pay exactly the same amount for my Apple products as anyone else. Apple claims universal design. When design changes or functional alterations lose the way, that isn't about somebody pays more, that's about somebody misunderstanding universal design. Luckily, not all sighted

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread E.T.
You tell it to the universe. We are using a product that is mainstream and for the most part accessible. Please tell us what other company building mainstream products has better accessibility. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/15/2016

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
Michael you’re right and just try using Android. It’s like getting a prostate exam from Captain Hook. > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:40 PM, michael babcock > wrote: > > Apple doesn’t make there products and services to work for everyone. > All this talking about

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
Cheree, you’re not going anywhere. Even if you don’t like the change in mail. If you think that’s tricky try using Android. Android is a joke of an operating system in comparison. If for example you want to use the web or expect stability, expect to get your security patched and updates and

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread michael babcock
Apple doesn’t make there products and services to work for everyone. All this talking about leaving because you don’t like there updates, means nothing honestly. Apple is doing there marketing the right way; they aren’t in the everyone business and the people who do like there products and

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Cheree Heppe
No. Disregarding working, intuitive practice for fluffy, legacy emulation is not progress. Tell that to the galactic Oogy Buggy. This is a marketing problem. If it isn't what I like or can use, it's a marketing issue. Tell that to the Galactic Trader's Alliance. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread E.T.
Change is counterproductive? Perhaps to some who have a hard time adapting to change. But, at the end of each day, change is inevitable. If that is what you deem as force, well, the solution is, of course, jump ship. But, inevitable there as well. the cycle repeats itself. Release notes

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
land > JAWS Certified, 2016. > Training Instructor. > > i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com> > Phone: (704) 256-8010. >> - Original Message - >> From: Cheree Heppe <mailto:che...@dogsc4me.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.co

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
...@gillandmarketing.com Phone: (704) 256-8010. - Original Message - From: Cheree Heppe To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 9:08 PM Subject: Re: IOS10 Mail app changes You developers and designers, changers and alter era can flick yourselves

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Scott Granados
It’s also counter productive to stagnate. > On Sep 15, 2016, at 9:03 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote: > > It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined functionality, > such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy system, namely OS. > If I'm not mistaken,

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
: IOS10 Mail app changes Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail. When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Cheree Heppe
You developers and designers, changers and alter era can flick yourselves into you-know-where regarding this change to mail on iOS. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 15:27, David Chittenden wrote: > > Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually,

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Cheree Heppe
It seems counterproductive to force an up-to-date, streamlined functionality, such as iOS to emulate an older, difficult, clumsy system, namely OS. If I'm not mistaken, there are more users of the iOS than the OS. The iOS represents a gateway experience that the public has readily adopted.

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Jonathan C. Cohn
You can also do actions on individual messages in thread view by flicking left till you hear your message n of y and about clicking on that. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Sep 15, 2016, at 6:57 PM, Helga Schreiber > wrote: > > Hi all! How are you all? I was

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you all? I was playing with the mail app with IOS 10,adn I find away to read a thread of messages. You find the thread you want tto read, then flick or swipe down adn you wil find archive, mark all, delete, expand thread, ten just double tap on expand thread,and you will be

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread David Chittenden
Correct, the way messages are handled has changed. Visually, it now looks much more like mail on the mac. It also works more like macmail. When in the main message list, individual messages are still handled the same as in iOS 9. Threads are different. If one double-taps on a thread to activate

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread jaan ali
Hi, the delete all button is also gone, that's why am using the outlook mail instead of the regular mail app Get Outlook for iOS On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:09 PM -0400, "Phil Halton" > wrote: message threading seems to

Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread E.T.
Phil, If you have not read this article on Applevis yet, please do. Link follows. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/15/2016

IOS10 Mail app changes

2016-09-15 Thread Phil Halton
message threading seems to have changed substantially in IOS10. I can no longer 3 finger flick from message to message in a thread, instead I have to use the “pre and next” message buttons. Also, the list of messages in a thread no longer appears, but instead I am thrown into the first message