tion under
capitalism.
Mark is persuasive about the arguments that the human race is coming up
against the finite limits of extractable oil. But that does not
necessarily unfortunately mean the end of capitalism.
Capitalism wobble as a result. But if you don't push it, it won't fall.
Chr
once again. But that bias should be questioned. Presumably the
MPRP should be able to win future elections even in a more diversified
economy, without having to restrict basic democratic rights. Who owns the
media, might be a crucial question.
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, the left will be vulnerable to the sort of
populist interventions of people like Ken Livingstone.
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of
Livingstone and Monks stand on their own merits?
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Power without guns? The withering away of the state?
Extract from article in the Economist below
Chris Burford
London
SURVEY GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNET
IN DOWNTOWN Phoenix, Arizona, people are queuing
in a grubby municipal office to renew
financial system rather than on Mugabe.
I am doubtful that a win for the MDC will really see progressive change.
Chris Burford
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England
jjingoism, in an attempt to prevent the Labour government from joining the
European currency union.
Chris Burford
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.
How does the CPJ deal with class contradictions, and finance capital?
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reasonably, that there is no alternative to the
governments policies, while the South African economy is dependent on the
credibility of the Rand in the eyes of the handlers of finance capital.
Can the SACP square this circle?
Chris Burford
London
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women.
the
hegemons du jour prefer their foreign radicals to be of the right - as
Trotsky warned when the boy Hitler first came under notice
Can you explain this reference?
- and as Caspian
oil projections might recommend).
Can you explain again.
Too eliptical.
Chris Burford
London
At 08:34 10/05/00 +0100, Jim heartfield wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris
Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
IMO this particular British involvement is progressive and is part of the
developing process of world governance, so long as it assists the UN and
the West African peace keeping
In the interests of pluralism I forward this further discussion statement
from someone in CATP and notice of a discussion meeting in London on
Sunday 14th May.
Chris Burford
London
Campaign Against Tube Privatisation -
http://CATP.listbot.com
Now is a good time to re-assess
from Nina Temple, starts work this month.
The URL for Democratic Left UK is http://www.democratic-left.org.uk/
This page states that the New Times page was last updated in Febraury 2000.
I hope this information is transparently clear.
I am glad to hear the archives of the CPGB are in Manchest
.
It is a pity because it reduces the collective spirit of a list.
Chris Burford
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learning how this system works.
I would predict that a radical left candidate capable of crossing the 5%
hurdle in four years time, will need to combine a radical green as well as
a socialist stance.
But the theory behind this practice must also be seriously discussed. I
hope the organisation
of time. Serious discussion of tactical
voting is not. There is an advantage in having at least one radical left
representative in the Greater London Assembly.
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ocialising of land in London would be a pretty radical agenda, and
does indeed touch on the Mayor's few powers - over transport and vetoing
certain developments.
Don't expect the IMF to schedule its next major international conference
here in London in the near future!
Chris Burford
London
economy puts tremendous
pressure on this system which cannot be controlled by more sophisticated
methods such as accountants. Hence the reversion to public shame and
exemplary punishment.
Chris Burford
London
At 12:14 26/04/00 -0400, you wrote:
Monday, April 24, 2000
China executes deputy mayor
al rule of finance capital. In alliance with other oppressed
peoples, it will succeed. The African drums beat exuberantly and the
sisters danced, as Bernie's coffin was placed on the hearse to drive down
the hill. His message will go on until it is achieved.
Nkosi Sikelela!
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London
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al).
More than smoke and mirrors. Damn clever footwork in the service of the
powers that be, finance capital.
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lim people of Kosovo.
I see nothing progressive in these exchanges except that global dialogue is
better than global war.
Progressive and marxist people should note which nations are oppressed and
which are oppressor, and where the interests of capital lie, and those of
working people.
Chr
. Not as much, I
suspect, as the Trotskyist entrist groups assume.
Painful though Dobson's defeat will be for Blair, it looks however as if
this constitutional experiment will liven up local politics in London.
Perhaps the election of that will be the really interesting one politically.
Chris
with Haider's Freedom Party.
It echoes a sharpening of the rhetoric by the British Conservative Party
against immigrants.
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much power because
he will not have these left wing-councillors with him.
The test of his politics currently is his proposals about raising a bond
issue for the London Underground.
Chris Burford
London
At 13:05 11/04/00 -0400, you wrote:
Livingstone aims Hitler attack at capitalists
I agree this sort of news from China is important.
I also agree that it is silly to take a routinely positive or a routinely
negative attitude to developments in China.
But why did you choose this item? What conclusions do you draw from it?
Chris Burford
(absent recently owing to leave
the Euro, but it is still being said without factual
contradiction that British economic cycles are out of sync with continental
Europe.
And the British government continues to pursue a strong pound, high labour
flexibility, low unemployment policy with falling national debt, as in the
USA.
Chris
Charles that Livingstone supported military intervention
in Kosovo, though he did not support the intervention that occurred.
BTW how would you suggest he raises several billion to renovate the London
underground?
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is so relevant for comment and it is a good advert for the
Guardian, I cannot really imagine them suing.
You might like to bookmark their webpage on the contest, since Livingstone
will have no machine to work for him and the media and the internet may be
decisive.
Chris Burford
London
engineering projects like
this? What despotic inroads into the rights of property would subscribers
recommend to Livingstone or Dobson, that will also get the wage slaves to
work on time and reasonably fit?
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the happy, or not so happy,
families, that inhabit the marsh of opportunism?
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es. People are basically good. Only those who believe in the
exploitation of the majority by the minority, or who are part of
privileged minority of beneficiaries, believe otherwise.
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me elements of which they would
regard as reformist. And the whole movement needs marxist analysis to see
the objective points of unity and common interests and the areas of
weakness in the defences of global finance capital.
This is one of the best countermoves to the Albright Doctrine of Limited
e union investment fund managers helping progressive forums with
studying how to reform the financial climate to give greater security to
people.
Some ideas.
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to make compromises and to take advantage of contradictions among the
enemy, eg at one time using US imperialism against French, and vice versa.
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So what about restriction of the power of rentier capital and landed
capital, and increased legislation and monitoring to promote social
production controlled by social foresight? Not red-blooded enough for Hugh,
but a step on the way? No?
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as illustrated by the 'Schrödinger's
cat' thought-experiment) are not observed.
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not apply only to
them.
The implications of this argument about quantum theory are IMO not clear:
whether it can still apply to non-closed systems i.e. actual reality,
rather than an experiment with an artificially restriced number of variables.
Chris Burford
London
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I commend this article as a critique of the leftist line on Kosovo:
Chris Burford
London
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From Green Left Weekly (Australia) Jan 19 2000
By Michael Karadjis
The massacres that never were, ran the headline in the
right-wing London Spectator. The article
ontinental European political theory and
philosophy.
Are you in favour of frontal revolutionary attack in Western Europe?
If so how will you avoid being isolated and defeated?
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promoting a fatalist
method which contributed to it.
What is fatalist about Gramsci's method? It is a method that says in
effect, never stop struggling; look for every opportunity for advance even
when the balance of forces look unfavourable.
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for the
status of Peoples Voice of Canada, but the clip is a relatively concise and
apparently relatively accurate summary of the oil issue.
Chris Burford
London
(This article is from the Jan. 1-15/2000 issue of People's Voice, Canada's
leading communist newspaper. Articles can be reprinted
of the emerging global "middle class", on whom Clinton bases his
strategic hopes.
Chris Burford
London
.
The IMF will secure broader support for its programs from various sectors
of society to make them more effective and successful, AFP reports an IMF
official said yesterday. "Cl
plies an alternative to the bourgeois two party system that
has kept capitalism in power for so long. It entails reformist risks but
Gramsci is not I maintain revisionist as such, and Hugh has interestingly
fallen silent on this point.
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Does Hugh think Gramsci is a revisionist or not?
Chris Burford
London
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At 19:09 11/01/00 +0100, you wrote:
Chris writes:
Presumably if Hugh always assumed Gramsci was a revisionist he did not know
the details I posted which I extracted from the Dictionary of Marxist
Thought
Rosa Luxemburg and Karl
Liebknecht were murdered.
It was a traditional march in the GDR, and after the fall of the wall many
other leftists supported it.
The failure of the authorities to protect it allegedly from someone who had
a grudge against the GDR, is ominous.
Chris Burford
London
.
Could it be that our differences are not as great as we would both like to
believe?
We can still come down on different sides on certain political questions eg
is it more revolutionary or not for Britain to join the European Monetary
Union to take an example we have not discussed.
Chris Burford
too think it is surprising. Just because we can count on Hugh for a
good argument does not mean that this strategic issue is of relevance just
to him and me. At least we both agree that it is pretty fundamental.
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ogressive
forces can accumulate strength against the forces of capitalism by long
painstaking work. PLUS, how they can prepare for the unexpected. IMO both
require a revolutionary attitude to reforms.
Over to you again, Hugh.
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Hugh, are your really calling Gramsci a revisionist?
And if so what type of revisionist is he, and what is your evidence?
(I will still allow that you might want to call many self-declared
*Gramscians* revisionists, but that is not necessarily the same question.)
Chris Burford
London
pting the law spontaneously, freely, and not through coercion, as
imposed by another class, as something external to consciousness)."
Well. Does the fault, if fault it be, lie in Gramsci or in his
opportunistic interpreters?
Chris Burford
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volutionary steps.
(Marx held that modes of production were often mixed.)
If correct, this has big implications for our concept of revolution.
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oo, but I would have thought he should
have been disqualified as far as human beings of this millenium are
concerned. So perhaps Marx was ninth.
Chris Burford
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ave me out
of the greetings to revolutionaries) that sometime in the next millenium,
and probably within the next century, we should be celebrating a socialist
thanksgiving, with turkey the main item on the menu.
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n-only defence force, are a reflection of the contradictions.
There can be both contention and collusion between different imperialisms
(by which I mean blocs of finance capital).
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the world's engine of growth, generously
accumulating even more so that people could sell to it on credit.
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goodness the Exeter mirror site, although very out of date, is still
in existence.
What about the Colorado.EDU site?
I realise that vast amounts of unpaid labour have gone into all this, but
the present situation appears a potentially serious loss of a valuable
resource.
Chris Burford
London
suspect, texts of the earlier site.
Hopefully there is just a problem of links. Does anyone know?
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of the chemist Schorlemmer who was a friend of Marx and Engels. They might
just possibly contain some reference to the two, or show some attempts at
the application of dialectics.
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m was also a model of dignity in copying with disability without
being socially excluded.
A small but real shift of power in took place last night in civil society
in Britain.
Chris Burford
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ait the explanations, hope all is resolved on my
return.
(fat chance)
Russ
Damn.
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aterialism, and then we must apply
them again non-dogmatically to the external world.
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it up
against itself as the sole target, in order to concentrate all its
forces of destruction against it. And when it has accomplished this
second half of its preliminary work, Europe will leap from its seat and
exult: Well burrowed, old mole!"
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Good quote.
I am copying it to marxism-thaxis.
Chris Burford
London
At 14:10 25/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
Stephen Jay Gould writes in "Nurturing Nature," _An Urchin in the Storm:
Essays about Books and Ideas_ (NY: Norton, 1987):
* ..._Not in Our Genes_ [by R.C. Lewontine, S
The army was promised the extra funds in October,
but the IMF warned that it would suspend help if
military spending ran out of control.
* How embarrassing!
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gh respect for Hugh
not to need to be dazzled each time.
But since he poses the need for the revolutionary working class to begin
consciously to solve the contradiction between the relations of production
and the forces of production on a world scale...
What reforms does he think revolutionary activists
on a
specifically marxism list. And unlike Louis Proyect, you and Bill do not
censor the debate.
But at this stage just a question please. What is moral hazard, and is
there a marxist equivalent for it?
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rhaps Dave or Bob will not buy it, but what about "sub-imperialism" as a
relevant half-way concept for what Russia under Yeltsin is trying to achieve?
Chris Burford
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uharto to
leave his
job," Camdessus said. "That was not our intention," he said, but quickly
added
that soon after Suharto's resignation he traveled to Moscow to warn Russian
President Boris Yeltsin that the same forces could end his control of
Russia unless he acted to contain
critique it?
Chris Burford
London
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the entry of China to the WTO does not
weaken the relevance of the marxian theory of value, but it does suggest we
should apply it in the form of a field theory analogous to a gravitational
field.
I would appreciate comments and criticisms on this contribution.
I am copying it also to marxism-tha
ocial, needs to grasp the essence of how commodity
production under capitalism eats like a cancer into all other compartments
of an organic "social life process".
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press the west to impose economic sanctions on Yeltsin's
Russian to make it disgorge Chechnya just as Habibie's Indonesia was forced
to disgorge East Timor?
Or do I know the answer: Unclean! unclean! You cannot build a world centre
for revolution with messy compromises like that.
Chris Burford
Chris:
The way it achieves a pure and in practice entirely abstract political
position is too subtle for Dave to summarise in English here?
Dave:
Up yours too Burford
Ah, the answer has arrived. In English.
But what has this to do with the oppression of the Chechens by Yeltsin's
as it did
on Indonesia to make it disgorge East Timor?
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there is a possibility of a new alliance in Europe as a whole.
Chris Burford
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your links to:
The Marxists Internet Archive at: www.marxists.org
What is your comment on
http:csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/
as I thought the Colorado site had taken over from marx-org and has their
search engine.
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, the book was published in '97 acccording to h (Ya
I know its an evil chain!!!) esp Chris Burford or James Heartfield?If so
can they give a precis?
Michael Pugliese
http://www.knowledge.co.uk/lobster/articles/rrtalk.htm Attachment
Con
question about old CPGB archives to
Democratic Left, no longer a party, but the legal successor to the CPGB,
at
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Any initial impression what the hidden assumptions are which favour
capitalism?
Chris Burford
London
Hi Chris,
The model replicates how mainstream thought sees capitalism- in the model we
can tinker at the edges by altering various fiscal policies but it does not
even begin to allow any
:
http://ve.ifs.org.uk/Hard.shtml.
Russell
Forgive me if I do not get lost in the Chancellor's rooms.
Any initial impression what the hidden assumptions are which favour
capitalism?
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describes it in "The Future
Lasts Forever" page 203.
You really seem to have lost perspective or proportion.
In fact she was a
resistance heroine, whose militant politics were an anathema to a party
that had become a bulwark of capitalist stability.
--
Jim heartfield
Chr
, of pure mathematical calculation?
---Antonio Gramsci, 1926.
- Or has it not made him the warmest of the marxists and one of the most
relevant for winning back hegemony among working people today?
Wonderful quote.
Like Althusser he suffered in his imprisonment.
Chris Burford
London
At 17:15 23/10/99 +0100, you wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris
Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
I cannot see any major financial gain for global imperialism from this
intervention except for status as peacemakers. And that is in the hands of
the UN.
This has got to be a progressive
At 10:26 23/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 12:51:23 +0100 Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
At 01:46 23/10/99 PDT, Macdonald wrote:
How many times have I wondered if it really possible to forge links
with a
mass of people when one has never had strong feelings for anyone
of the
proletariat.
Chris Burford
London
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the people of Chechnya but it is also
in the interests of western imperialism.
Chris Burford
London
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At 21:18 09/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
On Sat, 09 Oct 1999 22:45:04 +0100 Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
A tax on land, ideally full ground rent, would be the most progressive of
all. It would fall on the landed bourgeoisie, it would promote
economic efficiency in the use of this scarce
one wing of the bourgeoisie, without promoting the other wings to come to
its rescue.
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assively in this stage of New Democracy, the
criticism of the CPC and Mao's leadership is that within 10 years of the
revolution it was moving far into the agenda of the socialist revolution
before the economic conditions were laid for it. This then turned into a
leap into forms of communism that were a di
edly there are be strong views on this question. I hope by
emphasising the issues of what questions we ask, and how we answer them,
any debate about this important anniversary would be in line with the
moderators wishes for this list and can be engaged and constructive.
Chris Burford
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coat.
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At 11:08 21/09/99 GMT, you wrote:
Hi Rob,
Are we getting new subscribers via the web site? I've tried to make sure
that it gets picked up by the search engines but there's a lot of competing
sites out there!
BTW: Anyone got any tips on getting it better? What would Thaxians like to
see
of this could be Indonesia joining
Malaysia is a strongly anti-IMF world stance.
Chris Burford
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At 14:02 16/09/99 +1000, Rob wrote:
And, anyway, if East Timor is still a viable entity, it was NEVER going to
be meaningfully independent. Neoliberal hegemony was ALWAYS its fate for
the foreseeable future.
Agreed. Ironically autonomy rather than independence is the only outcome
that is
as it can, usually quietly and secretly, is
itself a compromise.
Chris Burford
London
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to minimise the
violence and maximise the opportunities for democratic advance.
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e children of East Timor are rising even if the militia
have stopped the massacres?
Liberate East Timor, and Indonesia, through
workingclass revolution!
What proportion of the Indonesian population is working class?
Answer: It doesn't matter. Silly question.
Chris Burford
London
hird world workers are much more exploited. In relation to this they are
"super" exploited in that the price of their labour falls much below the
subsistence for the reproduction of the average labour power of the world.
Chris Burford
London
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