Curt,
I'm on Comcast and for some reason I always get double posts from you, only
you, and I have the digest version of the list. I just figured you have a
sticky keyboard :-))
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
Andrew,
We had pawpaw trees in Southern WV. I ate pawpaws when I was young. I don't
remember the early bloom as Feb would be too cold, maybe mid March. I remember
some of the trees being 10-12 feet in height and they did tend to grow in the
shade of large oaks or maples. Great fruit to eat and
I've used the Bosch 49 battery with both of my 617 engines (123, 116). They fit
perfect, last a long time, and have a great warranty. The price has gone up a
lot. My last purchase not that many years ago was only $99.00. If you have a
116, 123, or 126, I think you'll be very satisfied with this
Dan,
I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread
(behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also helps
to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about cutting
out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt).
Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which Mercedes
model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always thought the
SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans must contain
high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about
Ok, I'll go $5800. This is the Price is Right show isn't it? The other list has
become the "Is the list up?" or the MJ sponsored report list. I have an 80
300SD, but it has a few more miles (about 420,000).
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
Movies are ok, but I still like Janice "Ole Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes
Benz. My friends all drive Porches, I must make amends." Or something along
those lines.
Clint got all the good movie lines..."do you feel lucky punk", "a man's got to
know his limitations", etc, etc.
Best Wishes,
Kaleb,
I have two old 617s (80 300SD - @425,000, 83 300D @ 360,000 miles). I've used
Diesel Service in the white bottles from any mcparts store. It works great,
cleans and treats fuel system, etc.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
Randy,
Kennedy was killed by a jealous husband. The police decided there were just too
many suspects so they used Oswald as a patsy. It's a strange world.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
I'll go back farther. My 116 has firm pad and leather. On a long trip, you
arrived rested as you should. My 123 is good also, but the MBtxt lacks the
firmness of the 116's leather and more firm pads. I realize there probably
aren't in 116 owners left on the list, so I thought I'd add my
I've always found that you only need an "active user community" when you have a
complex product or one with diverse problems/issues. Simple and relatively
stable products don't really need user communities. As a user since the 80's,
I've never had to consult a user community for assistance. So,
Well, you guys can complain all you want, but I've run Windows since it was an
app on top of DOS. I've never had a problem that made me want to run to the odd
stuff some of you guys are using. If you were only running Windows, you
wouldn't be having these problems. I know Linux has an appeal
Kaleb,
Just some info... I've been running Norton for years. It's free with my Comcast
internet. Norton scans files I download and tells me if they are ok. If they
are not, Norton deletes the download. So, the file never gets executed. I've
never had a problem with the current Norton in about
I can't believe you guys are missing the obvious. The energy answer is the
"flux capacitor". We can convert garbage to energyand we all know we have
way too much garbage in this world. Or maybe the methanol out of landfills and
convert it to synthetic diesel. Or maybe something that hasn't
Spam comes in different flavors now. I've tried some of the other flavors,
fried as a breakfast meat to accompany eggs and toast. It is good and
different. Not sure I'd want it as a steady diet, but for a change, it's pretty
good.
Just my .02.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware
Curley,
I prefer Mann filters also for my old 617 diesels. However, I have used STP
filters and was pleasantly surprised and happy with them. I find them sometimes
at AutoZone.
Just a suggestion.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
Has anyone considered how much more information the NSA has that they aren't
releasing? The comment was made back during the Hillary "investigation" that
all the FBI or congress had to do was get her emails, etc. from the NSA. They
have everything on everyone. It's a sad commentary on our times
>the penalty for treason is death.
Curley, apparently this is no longer true. Hillary is still on the loose.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Well, I don't plan on causing oil leaks by using synthetic in an engine that's
not leaking while I'm waiting for the synthetic oil to reseal the leaks it
created. I also remember that Marshall was always working on his 190 engines.
He always used to tell me how clean his engines were inside
Curt,
When I got my Dodge, it was an off lease that had roughly 100,000 miles. It had
been run with dino 10w30, forget the brand. I switched it to Valvoline Maxlife
10w40 for engines with over 75K. Both main seals were dry and I wanted to keep
it that way. But I was tempted at one point and
Gee guys, don't want to start an oil war. Anyway, if I lived "up North" which I
used to, I would not own a diesel, but that's just my choice. As to the oil,
I've said before, my Indie put synthetic in my 1980 300SD once, it started
leaking a lot, so I returned to him with 2 gallons of Mobil 1
Dan, most of my career was spent as a business process analyst. My background
includes TQM, process management, ISO9000, ITIL, and Six Sigma. Then sprinkle
in software documentation and training along with management and project
management. Although I started out in retail operations
Randy, it's not my maintenance, wish I could take credit. Fortunately, over the
20 plus years of ownership, I've had two great indy shops work on both my 617s.
And now that I'm retired, neither gets driven very much. Plus, they have always
been southern cars (SC and GA). I'll probably sell my
Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617
version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum functions/connections
for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. And of course it has the
Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 1981 126
Dan, the air is currently disconnected because the compressor went bad. I plan
to put it back together in the next year as it's my wife's car and she likes to
drive it but not without the air. It's been converted to 134a and when it works
it does cool quite well.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger
Floyd, it's a 617 5cyc turbo. But I doubt it will last a million. At the miles
I put on it now, it will probably outlast me, so I don't know.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the
leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably
what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about
15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he
I don't think they are as good as bundts, but then it's all a matter of
perception. I have bundts on two vehicles and would never use hub caps. I also
remember when all the plastic pipe came out an it was going to last
forever...apparently forever has different meanings in advertising.
Thought
A question for the tire specialists on the list if you would please. I have a
1980 300SD which originally was designed for 185 70 14 tires. I've always run
195 70 14 tires for the past 20+ years. I have the opportunity to get a set of
new Hankook 205 75 14 tires for free or cheap. Would this
Well, again, my only point is that if the airline and "police" can treat this
man this way, then they can do it to you. I don't care what he is or did in the
past, no one deserves to be treated that way. Now UA is saying they are going
to pay everyone on that flight. Again, put yourself in
Very interesting. I've never seen so many "excuses" made for an industry which
apparently can't schedule or book flights. Each flight has a break even point
doesn't it? So, the plane doesn't have to be booked solid in order for the
airlines to make money. And yes, doctors are more important
>From what I've read, if true, he was put back on the flight. And they were
>bumping people for their own crew members to fly. I can see a large settlement
>lawsuit in the offing. Plus, if United doesn't fire some of their apparently
>overly STUPID employees, then it's a sign that no one should
Well, I don't know about anyone listening to old time MB folks...no one listens
to me :-)) But, I've always used Mann in my two 617s and that was when they
were both driven daily and had 3K oil changes with Mobil Delvac 15x40 dino oil.
A few times I needed an oil change and couldn't get a Mann,
Over twenty years ago when I got my 617s, I tried different oils. The Mobil
Delvac 15x40 dino did the best job of keeping a higher oil pressure when hot.
I've tried Rotella and others without that result. I've only run dino in these
old cars, 3K oil/filter changes and they are both happy
I've used the tranny fluid to lube the IP in both my 617s. As they were driven
daily, I never noticed an engine performance improvement. I just did it to lube
the IP to replace the sulfur lube they used to get before diesel got "clean" to
save us all.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Max,
Poor a pint or quart of trans fluid in the tank and run it through. It will
lube everything in the system. If that doesn't help, it may be time to do what
I always recommend...see a mechanic. Or...get an older 617. I'm sure Dan could
fix you up with one that would only take 2-3 months to
You guys do remember that "Pie are round and cornbread are square". The numbers
you assign just depend on how hungry you are and how much you want to make.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
Curt, I didn't need to look at the links and I DO understand the concept of the
combo units and trying to save you the initial vacuum step with a regular
vacuum cleaner. My sole points are: use a regular vac first for the big stuff
and then pour the water outside. Or go ahead and tear up stuff
Rick, I understand that. BUT, if you use a regular vacuum first, it makes the
job better. Mixing the two tasks lets you end up with the problem Kaleb
experienced. I'm speaking from my wife's point of view and she's never clogged
up our disposal in 39 years of marriage...so I assume she knows of
The real moral of the story is: VACUUM YOUR CARPET BEFORE YOU USE THE
CLEANER! All that junk would have been sucked into the vacuum which is use
to it and not clog up the disposal. My wife reminded me that you don't pour the
dirty water down the drain when you can pour it outside.
Just
Kaleb,
What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least
twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just lucky
or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built my
house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the
I'm not sure why there's a problem with the iPhones, maybe the newer ones. When
I switched to CC years ago, I had two Motorola flip phones. Later when the 2
towers went, I purchased two iPhone 3s on ebay for around $35.00 each. CC send
me new sim cards, helped me make the switch, and get me
Curley, go with Consumer Cellular and you won't be sorry. Tell them I
recommended you and I get a credit. I've had CC for over 10 years. I switched
from Verizon. I purchased two iPhone 3s from eBay (one for me, one for my
wife). CC send me the sim cards for free, walked me through the setup,
I don't generally join the "what if" and "wishful thinking" discussion. But
What if you could be teleported, taken apart and put back together. BUT...what
if you have say cancer and the put back together is without the cancer cells?
You'd be cured. I don't think time travel is good as too
Larry,
You should "vett" the shop for their competence. Years ago I was looking for a
"closer" shop. I went into this shop and looked around, didn't like the
organization or appearance of techs. I asked if anyone had 617 engine
experience. The shop manager said a little and they had the
Kaleb,
Just a suggestion...contact the "This Old House" gang and see if they'll come
fix your house as a show project. I've seen them fix issues like yours on their
shows. I had a front entry way section of a house done years ago (termite
damage), but it was done by a professional. He did a
Andrew,
My daughter still gets mail from businesses, state, and local government about
many things. BUT she hasn't lived at home in over 15 years while living in two
other states. I think this 2 state voter registration issue says more about the
states needs to verify and clean up their voter
Now Curley, really, you don't think shill bidding occurs on eBay, do you
:-))) According to the eBay folks, they watch out for that. Well,
apparently they don't look too close. It's especially bad in the electronics
area. That's why I try to find something that is "buy it now" that matches
Kyle,
In the 20+ years with my old 617s, it's always been basically replace pads
twice, on third time, replace the rotors also. Once I got 3 sets of pads, but
that was once. Should not be expensive on the 123. The rears go a long time
compared to the fronts (pads and rotors). As it seems with
>>>Wow, time to find a new wife.
Now Kaleb, you didn't replace your wife over the rental issues so I could
hardly replace mine over a Q meeting. She has been my trusted and faithful
companion for over 38 years so I will definitely keep her.
Wishing everyone the best at the meeting.
Roger
Manfred,
It's a no win situation for me. If I told my wife I wanted to drive 6 hours to
talk to guys about cars, she'd divorce me. If I told her I have to go alone
(she wouldn't come to hear car talk), shed divorce me. So, it's just a no win
situation. I know you guys will have fun. I'm just
Wow, I've been lucky. I've replaced one alternator in the 20 plus years I've
owned my two old 617s. Do both cars and parts just last longer here in the
South? I used to live up North and I know the stress all that salt can put on
metal and parts. When I worked, I always drove my 83 300D around
I believe the black is just anti rust coating. My 1980 300SD has the same
thing. Otherwise, you'd have gravel chips and dings in the paint and it would
rust. The coating is like a tar substance and protects the bottom. At least
that's what it is on my car. So, no, I don't think you'll get a
Gee, you guys must "pump" to hard. I have two 617s that I've had for 20 +
years. One has had the pump replaced with the new style while the other still
has the original white, screw down pump. I always tightened the screw pump
carefully and tight enough to be secure and sealed. The one just
Sorry Larry, notice I did say I was "just joking". Hope you resolve your
problem. I've wanted a newer model but can't seem to get past all the "new
stuff" on models beyond 1985, and diesels that require extra gizmos in order to
work properly.
Good luck and best wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Larry,
Just go ahead and drop in a new engine. By the time the guys on this list
finish recommending parts and fixes, you'll be close to a new engine price
:- Just joking guys, notice the smiley faces.
Best Wishes and Happy New Year,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe,
Randy,
Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed updates,
especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 wants that
may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. It's good to
keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded
Curley, when I loaded Win10 over Win7, it kept most of my settings. So, aside
from some small differences, it looks pretty much like Win7 on the surface.
Now, as I said, some of the setting menus, etc. are different, but the search
box quickly brings up whatever you're looking for so not a big
Well, I think I've listed this before in a previous discussion, but I've
loaded Win10 on two old Dell Vostro Core2Duos running 4 gig of memory. They
both are fine. I also loaded it on an HP Netbook, atom 1.6 processor and 2 gig
of memory...it loads slow, but otherwise is ok. One of the
If you want to say happy, I'd recommend letting SWMBO pick her own iron.
Best Wishes and Happy Holidays,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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To search list archives
While on the subject of monovalves, my 83 300D has a problem of all heat all
the time. I replaced the insert, but didn't seem to cure the problem. Could it
be a bad vac module somewhere, bad PBU, or what? Suggestions, advice, etc. I"ve
been tempted to just clamp the hose, but that's not a real
Dan,
Spray some belt dressing on the old belts before you spend money replacing
them. Also, check around for anything that could be causing a "wind noise".
I've got two old 617s and I've never heard either make a noise like that. Also,
is your radiator pressure OK with no possible pressure
It's an SDL for goodness sake. Sell it for $500, cut your loses now, and move
on:-))) Get yourself a good 116 and you'll be happy and won't be working on it
continually. It seems from reading the stories on this list that the newer the
car, the more time and parts are needed to keep it running.
Ok, try this one...
A husband and wife are on the 12th floor of a luxury hotel. They start arguing,
throwing things, calling each other names. Suddenly the wife picks up the phone
and calls the front desk. When the front desk staff answers, the wife says "I
need a maintenance man to come to
Please don't side with the Weather Channel on anything. I live within a 100
miles of their headquarters and they can't get my weather forecast correct. So,
please don't trust their take on climate change, global warming, or whatever
nonsense comes up. Over 50 years ago when I was in school, the
For 20 years now, I've always used the copper washer on the secondary filter on
both of my 617s. A few times, the filter came with an aluminum washer and it
did NOT seal properly. I simply installed the copper washer and used my long
box end wrench to tighten as much as I dared without risking
You didn't have to buy Windows. There were other flavors, some better and more
usable. But MS gutted the price at I think $99 and took the market. I first
used one of the early MS versions in order to use the Paint program. There were
so many neat programs available in the mid 80s. MS later
I spent a good bit of time in Puerto Rico in 1977. Out in the country side, not
San Juan. It cured me of any desires for Spanish music. Although I did find the
colorful fire stations very interesting architecture.
Just another perspective..
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware
Mitch,
I hope you were joking with this story about 25000 WWI vets voting for Hillary.
I did a search and got the following. Of course if you were referring to how
the "dearly departed" seem to still vote, then I understand.
How many WWI vets are still around ( alive )?
* From Yahoo
Fred,
I've always used either Interstate or the Bosch group 49 batteries. They fit
perfect in both my 80 300SD (front tray) and the 83 300D (rear, firewall tray).
Can you return it and try one of these two batteries? I get excellent life and
starting power from the Bosch.
Good luck and best
Well, if anyone has been following the DNC etal Wikileaks emails, you'll
understand why there will be voter fraud. In the past it was harder when there
was a paper trail, but now with mostly computers, the fraud will be easier,
especially where IDs etc have been ruled against by liberal
Curley,
And from what I've read, the The River is still trying to go back to Texas. The
Corp of Eng. keeps fighting it, but I imagine someday The River will win,
especially if the New Madrid fault goes again as a big quake. Mother Nature can
always out do any human activities.
Best Wishes,
Over the years, I've noticed that the Dems think their voters are the dumbest
in the country. They may be right. If you go back far enough, you can probably
find a baby picture of Trump. We are voting on people today, not people 20
years ago.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware
I put out two yard signs for Trump and they were both stolen. There is such a
demand for his yard signs, they are hard to get. So, since I'm retired, I now
go on the side of US78 here in Georgia and wave my signs at passing motorist.
I've gotten a lot of honks, waves, and thumbs up. I haven't
Well, personally I'm worried about anyone or any country being able to
"control" climate change. So, in the future, who will control rainfall,
droughts, snow, storms, etc.? This is a slippery slope to get on. I'm content
with "mother nature" having control. The whole issue of climate change or
Ok guys. Go ahead and get the "name calling" out of your system. I expressed my
opinion and you have the right to yours. Don't worry, I won't lose any sleep
tonight over name calling. As I said, vote your whomever you want and so will
I.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics,
Jon,
Yes I did. Having spent my entire life in the business world, I've come to have
a low opinion of greedy and dishonest people of low character. Hillary has been
that way her entire life. People don't have to support Hillary and her evil
ways, but some do. I don't agree with those who
Max,
According to the online AOL poll, Hillary won. This poll from a source that no
longer allows comments on news stories because Hillary was taking a beating.
This source run by AH, Soros' "hoe" of news sources. I don't trust any polls
and I worry about the upcoming elections because
I think before anyone casts stones at the Trump Foundation, they should look
closely at the Clinton Foundation. IF you don't see anything wrong with the
Clinton Foundation, then please rush to your eye doctor as you are surely going
blind. Just a suggestion
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
No, this car is TOO NICE for any of the "bottom feeders" on this list (and that
includes me) :-))) This car appears in TOO good a condition so what would
anyone have to spend hours of time fixing / repairing? Pass on this one.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe,
Curt, yes I know how fast the new oil turns black. I should clarify that when I
remove the filter, it is really cruddy looking. Again, I just feel better about
longevity with a shorter oil change. Granted, the oil may not be that worn out,
but both the oil and the filter look really bad.
Best
Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more than MB engineers
because I would NEVER have put a Chrysler servo in an MB car. After have
replaced that item many times in my 80 300SD, I have to wonder "what were they
thinking"? Again, when I look at how dirty the oil is at 3K, I'm
I would add to this that the 3K oil change is more important to a diesel than a
gas engine. When I changed my diesels at 3K, I felt good about getting all the
dirt and soot out of the engine. So, while it might be marketing, it was worth
it to me. And the engines are still going strong after
I'll add my usual different opinion on oil. I've used Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in
my two old 617s for around 20 years. Neither one has had the head off nor any
engine problems. One has around 425,000 miles and the other around 360,000
miles. I tried the other oils at first (Delo, Shell, etc.), but
Floyd,
There's SO MUCH wrong with the car and the adwhere do you start to comment.
I would think that this may be a combo of crack, booze, MJ, etc. A C300?
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
Hey Curt,
I guess maybe I'm confusing partitions with "tracks". In my NCR days, I was
given the task of making a "boot disk" for an NCR DMV desktop. It ran NCR DOS
and CP/M which had its "boot tracks" as the first tracks on a 5 1/4 flex disk.
I had to find the UCSD Pascal boot tracks on an 8
Am I getting too old or have Window drives always had a small boot partition?
When I worked on UCSD Pascal drives, they had a small boot partition. It was
and still is my understanding that without the "small boot partition", the OS
will never boot. I imagine all OSs have something they read to
Curt,
Remember the Dallas episode where JR had drugs planted on an opponent and then
arrested? Just a thought. I'm having trouble understanding some of the member
opinions on this. Yes, we are free to do what we want, UNTIL it causes a
problem for others. I have a neighbor who is a real
Well, after much research on the internet, the list archives, and other
credible sources, I have come to the conclusion that Hillary suffers from the
"devil biting her big fat rump". I watched her squirm in a chair yesterday
while Joe Biden spoke (although a Biden speech might equate to a devil
Mitch,
I researched this on line and apparently the idea goes all the way back to
Wilson and Roosevelt. Clinton set up a company (?) to start the phones. Maybe
Bill was looking for a network behind the scenes for the Clinton Foundation
collections, sort of like burner phones today. If you
Curt, maybe you and Andrew can form a club, maybe called the Rose Colored
Glasses club. And I'm glad to know of your father's low intelligence and your
own personal massive intellect. Next time I have a tough decision, I'll consult
you and then do just the opposite :-)) I only hope your sick on
Curt, I hate to break it to you, but all white people aren't bigots and
racists. I know that line fits the liberal media mold and allows so many to
"play the race card". I vote based upon what I believe, has nothing to do with
racism or bigotry, and I hope you do the same. Trump is merely
My wife reads all the hearing testimony and the released emails. From what she
passes on to me, I can only surmise that the people who are still supporting
Hillary have their heads so far up their butts that they are looking out
through their ears. If the establishment wants that POS Paul Ryan
Kaleb,
I hate to tell you this. I live East of Atlanta in the country and I have
Comcast (Xfinity) cable. I only keep them because of the internet speed as
measured on Speedtest.net which is:
download: @ 90 mbps
upload: @ 12-13 mbps
Now, I'm somewhat saddened because my download was running
No it wouldn't matter if Hillary hacked the RNC because she is too dumb to hack
anything. You drink the DC and DNC cool aid. Again, misdirection is always used
when you want to hide what is important. Remember the misdirection lies about
our ambassador being killed because the mob was upset
I've developed my "own line" over decades. As a mature, educated person, I
don't need someone else to tell me what to think or what my "line" should be.
If you want to do the usual and "misdirect" and blame Russia (like the
Wikileaks emails), then go ahead. But the US wasting money in Europe is
Floyd,
I've been advocating for years that the US should close its bases in Europe and
bring the troops and equipment home to be stationed on our Southern border. It
would serve two purposes. First, the troops could control the illegals coming
across the border and also help stop the drug
The detonation reason is simple. He had the detonator set as a phone call. He
received an unwanted call from a telemarketer and well, the rest is history.
It's hard being a terrorist these days. But Merkel should go. She's putting the
EU wishes ahead of the German people who elected her and
Grant,
I think if you check you'll find there is a "shortage" of virgins everywhere in
the world:-)) Maybe virgins should be added to the "endangered species" list?
But are virgins a species?
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
Guys,
My wife has been following all this stuff on the web: FBI reports, Clinton
Foundation, DNC emails, and more. She says the news media is only covering a
very small percentage of what's out there to read. If most taxpayers would pull
their heads from their butts, they'd be picketing in DC
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