Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I use the Febi stuff, too. Much cheaper than M1 and meets all the MB specs without exception. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III > is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no > harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for > the first change though. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the >> red bottle at Walmart >>> >>> Not Mobil1 ATF? >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Agreed, Febi 08971 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:17 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I use the Febi stuff, too. Much cheaper than M1 and meets all the MB specs > without exception. > > -D > > > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex > III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if > desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, > I used M1 for the first change though. > > -- > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > '87 300TD > > '95 E300 > > > >> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > >>> wrote: > >>> > Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the > >> red > bottle at Walmart > >>> > >>> Not Mobil1 ATF? > >>> > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] See How Much Horsepower A 400, 000-Mile Mercedes AMG Really Has Left
https://jalopnik.com/see-how-much-horsepower-a-400-000-mile-mercedes-amg-rea-1797606825 Lot of good comments --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automatic-full-opening Windows
I rented a Subarau in the '80s IIRC that had that feature. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Both, that is a feature. Special switch plus circuitry. Sounds like the > other switch that doesn't activate this feature is a replacement or needs a > good cleaning. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On August 7, 2017 10:27:33 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >I mentioned earlier that when I received the 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo, > >momentarily pressing hard on the front passenger's window switch would > >open that window all the way. > > > >I tried an experiment and reversed the switches side-to-side. > > > >Now the driver's window is the one that automatically opens all the > >way. > > > >So the function goes with the switch. I don't know why -- I haven't > >looked > >into what causes the function -- but I'm curious whether it's something > >in the switch itself or some ancillary circuitry in the rest of the > >car. > > > > > >Craig > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] See How Much Horsepower A 400, 000-Mile Mercedes AMG Really Has Left
So you are going to snatch up that local E55 when it comes up on Craigs list again, right? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://jalopnik.com/see-how-much-horsepower-a-400-000-mile- > mercedes-amg-rea-1797606825 > > Lot of good comments > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how they were when I got the car. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Well, transmission fluid, actually: > > What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] See How Much Horsepower A 400, 000-Mile Mercedes AMG Really Has Left
Impressive, most impressive. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:15 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://jalopnik.com/see-how-much-horsepower-a-400-000-mile- > mercedes-amg-rea-1797606825 > > Lot of good comments > > --R > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses (there are 2) become dislodged. The trick is watching when the water appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in rain. It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO. I had my windshield replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass. I re-used the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one. Good luck, LarryT 91 300D On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: How will the leaking windshield be identified? Is there a particular area I should look closely at to see? Thanks, everyone. I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose. -D On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Probably the same thing on the left side. I'd vote cowl drain too, but also check for a leaking windshield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Road trip update
Especially considering it is 4300 lbs and has a 4.4L v8. It’s a big car! Don Snook -Original Message- From: Meade Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 11:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road trip update Impressive mileage for a gasser. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 11:53 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I made it back from my road trip. I drove my 18 year old BMW 7 series > over 2000 miles in four days. INCLUDING 986 miles yesterday from > Biloxi, Mississippi all the way back to Wichita! Who says these older > 7 series aren't great cars? Big, heavy, comfortable car cruised at > 80-85 mph for 15 hours and got 25.3 mpg for the 2000 mile trip! What a car! > > Don Snook > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
It's definitely after torrential downpours, so I'm pretty confident it's not the condensate drains. I thought the W124 had a glued on windshield, not one with a seal? I'm almost positive that's the case. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses (there > are 2) become dislodged. The trick is watching when the water appears - when > it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in rain. It is easier to > reseal the windshield IMO. I had my windshield replaced last year for less > than $200 including new glass. I re-used the w'seal without a problem but > you might want to find a new one. > > Good luck, > LarryT > 91 300D > > >> On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> How will the leaking windshield be identified? Is there a particular area I >> should look closely at to see? >> >> Thanks, everyone. I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Probably the same thing on the left side. I'd vote cowl drain too, but >>> also check for a leaking windshield. >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB Canada apparently screwed this guy bad, for reasons unclear
https://mbworld.org/articles/2018-amg-c63-s-cant-drive Not sure what the deal is with "regulated" but apparently it isn't. Caution bad words! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 12:54:37 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > It's definitely after torrential downpours, so I'm pretty confident > it's not the condensate drains. > > I thought the W124 had a glued on windshield, not one with a seal? I'm > almost positive that's the case. Yes, it's glued on. I had one replaced when we were in Los Alamos. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on a couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on Craigs 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car after doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) that it has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am considering trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not technically serviceable. There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be serviced beca use it is built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for the first change though. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >>> Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the >red >>> bottle at Walmart >> >> Not Mobil1 ATF? >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember seeing pictures of a vehicle (Nissan?) that had a tranny flush done, apparently either they used the coolant flush machine, or somehow got water or coolant in the tranny flush machine, anyway the tranny was full of pink milk and somehow the friction material had come unglued from the clutch plates or some seemingly impossible but drastic failure like that... ...I don't know if it was an internet myth or not, but the story came with pictures, and it's kept me away from those machines for the past 15 years or so. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I don't buy the "sealed for life" part at all. I'll bet there is a kit you can get to install a dipstick / fill tube and change the fluid. Is there a filter too? If there is no drain on the torque converter, then maybe the flush would be a good idea, but I'd check around for a reputable BMW shop and avoid the Quicky-Lube places. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Donald Snook wrote: > Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a > transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when > they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in > reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine > that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the > transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- > whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on > a couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on > Craigs 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car > after doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) > that it has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am > considering trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not > technically serviceable. There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed > system and should not be serviced because it is built to last a lifetime. > I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. > So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
https://youtu.be/o690DovjDAc Here's your training video for the day... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
Does the 124 use a rubber seal? When they did the windshield in my '85 190D he glued it in with what looked like a cordless caulk gun. -Curt From: Larry Turner via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Larry Turner Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses (there are 2) become dislodged. The trick is watching when the water appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in rain. It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO. I had my windshield replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass. I re-used the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one. Good luck, LarryT 91 300D On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > How will the leaking windshield be identified? Is there a particular area I > should look closely at to see? > > Thanks, everyone. I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose. > > -D > > >> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Probably the same thing on the left side. I'd vote cowl drain too, but also >> check for a leaking windshield. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
The issue that you allude to that is somewhat of an urban myth is related to severely worn transmissions that have a large amount of friction material in suspension. That is, if the transmission is reliant on the remains of the friction material in the fluid to provide some benefit to the clutches actually engaging, if removed, will render the transmission non-functional or marginal at best. This is a really severe example and highly unlikely to occur under nearly any circumstances. However, it's the basis for the fear mongering over the use of commercial flushing machines. Flushing your transmission is no different that cracking open a cooler line and letting it pump fluid out while someone pours new fluid in. I personally wouldn't do it for fear of running the transmission dry, but it can be done. While I'm not terribly keen about the idea, I'll be using the drain and replace approach to the E320 soon, as I just picked up a filter and pan seal from the dealer today. You can do this 2-3 times over a month or less and you will have replaced the better part of the fluid. And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a > transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when > they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in > reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine > that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the > transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- > whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on a > couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on Craigs > 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car after > doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) that it > has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am considering trying > it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not technically serviceable. > There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be > serviced be cause it is built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III > is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no > harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for > the first change though. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the >> red bottle at Walmart >>> >>> Not Mobil1 ATF? >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
So who's got the best deal on Febi 08971 these days? My '95 E300 is due for an ATF fluid and filter change. A couple months ago I caught a sale at FCP Euro, I think it was around $7 per quart or so. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Agreed, Febi 08971 > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. Sealed for life increases the chances of the transmission outlasting the warranty, so it's good for manufacturers, but it reduces the chances of the transmission lasting 300k mi to near zero. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
The thing about the machine change is you don't get a filter change. I'm not sure where the filter is in the equation, if its inline with the out to the cooler you'd be pumping the crud into the filter and then not changing it resulting in an increasingly dirty filter.If it were inline with the intake it'd just get bathed in new fluid but still never replaced. It only just occurred to me that doing the method of replace where the machine replaces the cooler the fluid in the cooler doesn't get changed unless it leaks out during the change. I suppose that there isn't that much fluid in the average car's transmission cooler... -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question The issue that you allude to that is somewhat of an urban myth is related to severely worn transmissions that have a large amount of friction material in suspension. That is, if the transmission is reliant on the remains of the friction material in the fluid to provide some benefit to the clutches actually engaging, if removed, will render the transmission non-functional or marginal at best. This is a really severe example and highly unlikely to occur under nearly any circumstances. However, it's the basis for the fear mongering over the use of commercial flushing machines. Flushing your transmission is no different that cracking open a cooler line and letting it pump fluid out while someone pours new fluid in. I personally wouldn't do it for fear of running the transmission dry, but it can be done. While I'm not terribly keen about the idea, I'll be using the drain and replace approach to the E320 soon, as I just picked up a filter and pan seal from the dealer today. You can do this 2-3 times over a month or less and you will have replaced the better part of the fluid. And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a > transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when > they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in > reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine > that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the > transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- > whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on a > couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on Craigs > 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car after > doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) that it > has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am considering trying > it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not technically serviceable. > There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be > serviced because it is built to last a lifetime. I have never had a > transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't > tempt fate. > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III > is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no > harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for > the first change though. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > >> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the >> red bottle at Walmart >>> >>> Not Mobil1 ATF? >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
FCP Euro usually has good deals on the Febi fluid. There's very little fluid in the cooler. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > The thing about the machine change is you don't get a filter change. I'm not > sure where the filter is in the equation, if its inline with the out to the > cooler you'd be pumping the crud into the filter and then not changing it > resulting in an increasingly dirty filter. > If it were inline with the intake it'd just get bathed in new fluid but still > never replaced. > > It only just occurred to me that doing the method of replace where the > machine replaces the cooler the fluid in the cooler doesn't get changed > unless it leaks out during the change. I suppose that there isn't that much > fluid in the average car's transmission cooler... > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 14:11:54 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > FCP Euro usually has good deals on the Febi fluid. Since I need it now, I'll look for Mobil1 ATF. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > So who's got the best deal on Febi 08971 these days? My '95 E300 is due > for an ATF fluid and filter change. > > A couple months ago I caught a sale at FCP Euro, I think it was around $7 > per quart or so. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Agreed, Febi 08971 >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell
I had the same exact problem in my 1985 300td. After a torrential rainstorm the car basically flooded. Eventually it was diagnosed as a torn grommet for I believe the speedometer cable or some such. If not that, check the drains under the hood. In the 300td there's a drain on either side of the hood hinges that are designed to catch leaves and make compost in situ. On Aug 8, 2017 1:28 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > Does the 124 use a rubber seal? When they did the windshield in my '85 > 190D he glued it in with what looked like a cordless caulk gun. > -Curt > > > From: Larry Turner via Mercedes > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Larry Turner > Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell > > The AC condensate can also drain into the footwell if the drain hoses > (there are 2) become dislodged. The trick is watching when the water > appears - when it's humid and AC is being used or when the car is in > rain. It is easier to reseal the windshield IMO. I had my windshield > replaced last year for less than $200 including new glass. I re-used > the w'seal without a problem but you might want to find a new one. > > Good luck, > LarryT > 91 300D > > > On 08/05/2017 9:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > > How will the leaking windshield be identified? Is there a particular > area I should look closely at to see? > > > > Thanks, everyone. I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose. > > > > -D > > > > > >> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Probably the same thing on the left side. I'd vote cowl drain too, but > also check for a leaking windshield. > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard Shifting
In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to REALLY hard. I would think this is not good for things. It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and the other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here and Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud CLUNK from the rear end. Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It was particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked streets when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and required some speedy skid correction. Will changing the transmission fluid help this? Is there any adjustment for this? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
You can get 5 quart jugs at FLAPS for about that much, too. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So who's got the best deal on Febi 08971 these days? My '95 E300 is due >> for an ATF fluid and filter change. >> >> A couple months ago I caught a sale at FCP Euro, I think it was around $7 >> per quart or so. >> >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Agreed, Febi 08971 >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
This is an issue with your vacuum system. Any time you have hard shifts, you've either lost the vacuum signal or the controls that mange it are messed up. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to REALLY > hard. I would think this is not good for things. > > It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the > headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and the > other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here and > Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from > fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud > CLUNK from the rear end. > > Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It was > particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked streets > when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and > required some speedy skid correction. > > Will changing the transmission fluid help this? > > Is there any adjustment for this? > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
You have a vacuum hose loose somewhere Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to REALLY > hard. I would think this is not good for things. > > It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the > headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and the > other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here and > Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from > fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud > CLUNK from the rear end. > > Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It was > particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked streets > when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and > required some speedy skid correction. > > Will changing the transmission fluid help this? > > Is there any adjustment for this? > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
Research the blue ufo and associated vacuum plumbing. There is also a modulator on the tranny that can be adjusted, but fundamentally the blue ufo's job is to soften the shifts at less than full throttle (or cold) by altering the vacuum signal to the tranny, and therefore the transmission clutch pressure. So be sure it is hooked up correctly to the injection and vacuum pumps etc. All the ports on it are marked. On Aug 8, 2017 11:55 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You have a vacuum hose loose somewhere > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to REALLY > > hard. I would think this is not good for things. > > > > It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the > > headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and the > > other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here and > > Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from > > fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud > > CLUNK from the rear end. > > > > Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It was > > particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked streets > > when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and > > required some speedy skid correction. > > > > Will changing the transmission fluid help this? > > > > Is there any adjustment for this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
So did my '83 300D. Dr. Booth did a lot of research on oils of several kinds and finally concluded that Mobil 1, both for engine and transmission was the best. After using Mobil 1 for both engine and transmission for 130K miles, the transmission is still working well, and the retired Mercedes mechanic who put in a new chain, said it was still a very good engine after 300K miles. ~~ OK Don wrote: > I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how they > were when I got the car. > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Well, transmission fluid, actually: > > > > What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Top gear rigged that Robin to roll over
So, the BBC is as reliable as a US network? Maybe Clarkson can land a job at Dateline now that BBC has shown him the door? http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/entertainment/news/a27897/jeremy-clarkson-admits-reliant-robin-rollovers-were-totally-rigged/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I have a good friend who has been a certified mechanic for years. Works on RR and Bentley and manufactures auto parts for these brands. He has spoken very favorably about the transmission flush machines, said he has seen them bring troubled transmissions back to life. Dan E 82 300D 167kmi Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:34 PM, d...@penoff.com wrote: > > The issue that you allude to that is somewhat of an urban myth is related to > severely worn transmissions that have a large amount of friction material in > suspension. That is, if the transmission is reliant on the remains of the > friction material in the fluid to provide some benefit to the clutches > actually engaging, if removed, will render the transmission non-functional or > marginal at best. > > This is a really severe example and highly unlikely to occur under nearly any > circumstances. However, it's the basis for the fear mongering over the use > of commercial flushing machines. > > Flushing your transmission is no different that cracking open a cooler line > and letting it pump fluid out while someone pours new fluid in. I personally > wouldn't do it for fear of running the transmission dry, but it can be done. > While I'm not terribly keen about the idea, I'll be using the drain and > replace approach to the E320 soon, as I just picked up a filter and pan seal > from the dealer today. You can do this 2-3 times over a month or less and > you will have replaced the better part of the fluid. > > And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. > > -D > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a >> transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when >> they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in >> reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine >> that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the >> transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- >> whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on a >> couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on Craigs >> 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car after >> doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) that it >> has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am considering >> trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not technically >> serviceable. There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed system and >> should not be serviced b ecause it is built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. >> >> Don Snook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question >> >> Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III >> is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, >> no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 >> for the first change though. >> -- >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD >> '95 E300 >> >>> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >>> wrote: >>> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the >>> red > bottle at Walmart Not Mobil1 ATF? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
There is a vacuum modulator on the drivers side of the tranny, slightly towards the front, IIRC. Check the tubing going to it. Again, IIRC, there is a rubber cap over the adjustment, which is a spring loaded shaft (small dia.) with a small piece of rectangular metal at right angles to the shaft which is seated in slots. You pull it out and rotate it one way or the other, probably about 60 degrees, and try it to see what difference you made. However, what you are describing sounds like no vacuum is making it to the modulator. The adjuster thingy is for fine tuning the shifts. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Research the blue ufo and associated vacuum plumbing. There is also a > modulator on the tranny that can be adjusted, but fundamentally the blue > ufo's job is to soften the shifts at less than full throttle (or cold) by > altering the vacuum signal to the tranny, and therefore the transmission > clutch pressure. So be sure it is hooked up correctly to the injection and > vacuum pumps etc. All the ports on it are marked. > > On Aug 8, 2017 11:55 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > You have a vacuum hose loose somewhere > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > > > In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to > REALLY > > > hard. I would think this is not good for things. > > > > > > It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the > > > headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and > the > > > other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here > and > > > Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from > > > fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud > > > CLUNK from the rear end. > > > > > > Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It > was > > > particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked > streets > > > when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and > > > required some speedy skid correction. > > > > > > Will changing the transmission fluid help this? > > > > > > Is there any adjustment for this? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I believe that Herr Booth was correct, at the time, that M1 was far superior and resulted in less wear, etc. However, the oils available to us today are the same as they were then. The results of that Blackstone Labs study has convinced me that there is virtually no difference in the oils we can buy today, so go cheap. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > So did my '83 300D. Dr. Booth did a lot of research on oils of several > kinds and finally concluded that Mobil 1, both for engine and transmission > was the best. After using Mobil 1 for both engine and transmission for 130K > miles, the transmission is still working well, and the retired Mercedes > mechanic who put in a new chain, said it was still a very good engine after > 300K miles. > ~~ > OK Don wrote: > > I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how > they > > were when I got the car. > > > > On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Well, transmission fluid, actually: > > > > > > What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
My only concern would be back-flushing, which might wash the crap caught by the filter back into the tranny. Perhaps they do good enough a job filtering the flushed fluid to remove it, but I would worry that the tranny and cooler would also be filtering and capturing that crap. On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Dan Elliott via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have a good friend who has been a certified mechanic for years. Works on > RR and Bentley and manufactures auto parts for these brands. > > He has spoken very favorably about the transmission flush machines, said > he has seen them bring troubled transmissions back to life. > > Dan E > 82 300D 167kmi > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:34 PM, d...@penoff.com wrote: > > > > The issue that you allude to that is somewhat of an urban myth is > related to severely worn transmissions that have a large amount of friction > material in suspension. That is, if the transmission is reliant on the > remains of the friction material in the fluid to provide some benefit to > the clutches actually engaging, if removed, will render the transmission > non-functional or marginal at best. > > > > This is a really severe example and highly unlikely to occur under > nearly any circumstances. However, it's the basis for the fear mongering > over the use of commercial flushing machines. > > > > Flushing your transmission is no different that cracking open a cooler > line and letting it pump fluid out while someone pours new fluid in. I > personally wouldn't do it for fear of running the transmission dry, but it > can be done. While I'm not terribly keen about the idea, I'll be using the > drain and replace approach to the E320 soon, as I just picked up a filter > and pan seal from the dealer today. You can do this 2-3 times over a month > or less and you will have replaced the better part of the fluid. > > > > And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. > > > > -D > > > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done > a transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember > when they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the > fluid in reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a > machine that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts > through the transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal > direction of flow -- whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years > later, I had it done on a couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In > fact, I had it done on Craigs 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had > any problems with a car after doing the flush. But, I have heard stories > (possibly urban legends) that it has caused transmissions to fail. I'm > asking because I am considering trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW > transmissions are not technically serviceable. There is no dipstick and > BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be serviced because it is > built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any > of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > >> > >> Don Snook > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > >> > >> Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex > III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if > desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, > I used M1 for the first change though. > >> -- > >> Max Dillon > >> Charleston SC > >> '87 300TD > >> '95 E300 > >> > >>> On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes > >>> wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the > >>> red > > bottle at Walmart > > Not Mobil1 ATF? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observatio
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Dan E wrote: > I have a good friend... Another Dan at OkieBenz? Glad to be tin.man becuz there is another Dan here. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
The Blackstone info says that if you change your oil every 4000 miles it doesn't matter what oil you use. What MB says is that you must use oil that conforms to a certain MB specification if you want to run 10,000+ miles on a change. But yes, I believe that Mobil has chosen to cheapen M1 oils, at least the regular version, after Castrol succeeded in selling fake synthetic crap for more than Mobil charged for M1 25 years ago. (when Syntec came out it was $5 a qt and M1 was $4 a quart) And who was it, Valvoline, that said some M1 didn't even meet the SAE spec on the bottle? Mitch. > On August 8, 2017 at 4:35 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > The results of that Blackstone Labs study has > convinced me that there is virtually no difference in the oils we can buy > today, so go cheap. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sealed for life, was: An oil question
The tranny in the 2001 ML was "sealed for life", however MB also sold a dip stick for it, which I bought from Rusty back in the day, for when i got around to changing the fluid (never did) . . . On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a > transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when > they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in > reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine > that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the > transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- > whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on > a couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on > Craigs 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car > after doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) > that it has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am > considering trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not > technically serviceable. There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed > system and should not be serviced because it is built to last a lifetime. > I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. > So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex > III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if > desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, > I used M1 for the first change though. > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On August 7, 2017 11:23:36 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the > >red > >>> bottle at Walmart > >> > >> Not Mobil1 ATF? > >> > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt Maxlife is made by Valvoline. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Correct. And it is listed as an approved fluid in the Bevo, too. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Maxlife is made by Valvoline. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
The name Dan Elliot seems familiar to me, Gordon. I just think he doesn't post often. Hey Kaleb, has Elliot been on the list as long as you've been running it? Mitch. > On August 8, 2017 at 4:40 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Dan E wrote: > > I have a good friend... > > Another Dan at OkieBenz? > Glad to be tin.man becuz there is another Dan here. > tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
On 08/08/2017 3:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I believe that Herr Booth was correct, at the time, that M1 was far superior and resulted in less wear, etc. However, the oils available to us today are the same as they were then. The results of that Blackstone Labs study has convinced me that there is virtually no difference in the oils we can buy today, so go cheap. For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . . I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot or very cold weather. Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather. I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much better in the cold and provide more immediate protection to things like the bearings if we use synthetic oils. I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and then pour them out. I remember pouring out a jug of dino oil in cold weather and saw a big lump of some sort that looked like there was a can of the old STP in the jug. Not sure if the cold caused it to separate from the other ingredients but that was my thought at the time. Do the modern oils avoid that sort of thing? Do the synthetics do it better? The jug that I was pouring was likely 10W30. These days we are using 5W20 so much thinner to begin with. I have been running M1 for the last 15 years or more in my trucks and my wife's car but have never switched the old diesel to it as I have trouble finding the right grade around here. I only drive it in the summer and it gets few miles so I have never worried about it. Should I? Hard to say. I started out using Rotella and have switched to Delo. Am I wasting my money on the synthetic oils for the other vehicles? Hard to say. I have been a believer in changing oil and filter at very regular intervals - about 3000 miles when I was running dino. More like 4K to 5K with the synthetics. I had an 86 Taurus engine apart at over 100K miles due to a bad head gasket and the inside looked like new and it never had synthetic oil. I guess I have to think that any oil is better than no oil and clean oil is better than expensive dirty oil. However, engines have become expensive and complex and I sort of think of the synthetic as being more insurance against an expensive failure. My truck is a 2013 F150 with the 5 litre coyote engine. It only has about 39K miles on it. My wife's car is a 2007 Honda Accord with about 70K miles (if my memory is correct). We are not putting huge miles on so I only change the oil in either of them about 2X each year. Dino oil might be fine but the cost difference is minimal so I will likely carry on with the M1 in both of them. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
> On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote:> I wonder what difference one might see if one > were to put a gallon of > the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or > two and then pour them out. 30 years ago, it was the difference between ketchup and olive oil. But "dino" oils have made huge advances, including some with base II and base III stocks added to them, and "synthetic" oils may have stayed the same or gotten worse. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
There are dozens of vacuum lines on that car. Any one of them is probably become disconnected or had the rubber connector split or something. I had to replace a couple of connectors before Craig got it. It's probably got very little boost as well since a vacuum leak will cause the wastegate to not close. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:24 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > There is a vacuum modulator on the drivers side of the tranny, slightly > towards the front, IIRC. Check the tubing going to it. Again, IIRC, there > is a rubber cap over the adjustment, which is a spring loaded shaft (small > dia.) with a small piece of rectangular metal at right angles to the shaft > which is seated in slots. You pull it out and rotate it one way or the > other, probably about 60 degrees, and try it to see what difference you > made. > > However, what you are describing sounds like no vacuum is making it to the > modulator. The adjuster thingy is for fine tuning the shifts. > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:30 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Research the blue ufo and associated vacuum plumbing. There is also a >> modulator on the tranny that can be adjusted, but fundamentally the blue >> ufo's job is to soften the shifts at less than full throttle (or cold) by >> altering the vacuum signal to the tranny, and therefore the transmission >> clutch pressure. So be sure it is hooked up correctly to the injection and >> vacuum pumps etc. All the ports on it are marked. >> >> On Aug 8, 2017 11:55 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> You have a vacuum hose loose somewhere >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: In our '90 E300D, I have noticed the shifting varies from hard to >> REALLY hard. I would think this is not good for things. It doesn't bother me if I remember to have my head pushed back into the headrest, but I wonder what it is going to the flexible couplings and >> the other things in the driveline. In going up the mountains between here >> and Albuquerque, if I use the kickdown switch to go to third gear from fourth, when it does upshift when the slope decreases, there is a loud CLUNK from the rear end. Sometimes in going from first to second, it will chirp the tires. It >> was particularly exciting one time making a left turn on rain-slicked >> streets when I wasn't expecting it. That broke the whole rear end loose and required some speedy skid correction. Will changing the transmission fluid help this? Is there any adjustment for this? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
Those cars have EDS (Electronic Diesel Something) also, so no vacuum signal means the computer needs reset, or no boost. Rick Original Message From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting There are dozens of vacuum lines on that car. Any one of them is probably become disconnected or had the rubber connector split or something. I had to replace a couple of connectors before Craig got it. It's probably got very little boost as well since a vacuum leak will cause the wastegate to not close. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
On 08/08/2017 4:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:> I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and then pour them out. 30 years ago, it was the difference between ketchup and olive oil. But "dino" oils have made huge advances, including some with base II and base III stocks added to them, and "synthetic" oils may have stayed the same or gotten worse. Mitch. ___ So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1. What dino oil is good oil? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Dr Booth is wrong. Well at least now days. At one point he might have been correct. Not M1 is just hydrocracked Group III oil. It's not a true group IV synthetic. You have to get amsoil or the like to get a true synthetic now. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:34 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > So did my '83 300D. Dr. Booth did a lot of research on oils of several kinds > and finally concluded that Mobil 1, both for engine and transmission was the > best. After using Mobil 1 for both engine and transmission for 130K miles, > the transmission is still working well, and the retired Mercedes mechanic who > put in a new chain, said it was still a very good engine after 300K miles. > ~~ > OK Don wrote: >> I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how they >> were when I got the car. >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> Well, transmission fluid, actually: >>> >>> What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of >> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain >> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence >> for themselves." >> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Right Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Maxlife is made by Valvoline. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
For that matter Walmart supertec is probably fine if you want a regular non synthetic fluid. It's made by valvoline also I believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Maxlife is made by Valvoline. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
It's 722.6 approved which means it will work for anything up to the 722.6 and older. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Correct. > > And it is listed as an approved fluid in the Bevo, too. > > -D > > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: >> >> On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" >> wrote: >> >>> I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt >> >> Maxlife is made by Valvoline. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
It not sure but I have seen him pop up from time to time. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > The name Dan Elliot seems familiar to me, Gordon. > I just think he doesn't post often. > Hey Kaleb, has Elliot been on the list as long as you've been running it? > Mitch. > >> On August 8, 2017 at 4:40 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Dan E wrote: >>> I have a good friend... >> >> Another Dan at OkieBenz? >> Glad to be tin.man becuz there is another Dan here. >> tin.man > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
In applications I use synthetic I have switched to the delo 15w40 at Walmart which is cheaper than M1 and most likely is the same. I believe the Delo might be MB approved. For the 112 and 113 powered cars I still use M1 0w40 with is MB approved for those applications. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 08/08/2017 3:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that >> resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all >> but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I >> believe that Herr Booth was correct, at the time, that M1 was far superior >> and resulted in less wear, etc. However, the oils available to us today are >> the same as they were then. The results of that Blackstone Labs study has >> convinced me that there is virtually no difference in the oils we can buy >> today, so go cheap. >> > > For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . . > I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot or > very cold weather. > Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather. > I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much better in the > cold and provide more immediate protection to things like the bearings if we > use synthetic oils. > I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the > dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and > then pour them out. > I remember pouring out a jug of dino oil in cold weather and saw a big lump > of some sort that looked like there was a can of the old STP in the jug. Not > sure if the cold caused it to separate from the other ingredients but that > was my thought at the time. Do the modern oils avoid that sort of thing? Do > the synthetics do it better? > The jug that I was pouring was likely 10W30. These days we are using 5W20 so > much thinner to begin with. > I have been running M1 for the last 15 years or more in my trucks and my > wife's car but have never switched the old diesel to it as I have trouble > finding the right grade around here. I only drive it in the summer and it > gets few miles so I have never worried about it. Should I? Hard to say. I > started out using Rotella and have switched to Delo. > Am I wasting my money on the synthetic oils for the other vehicles? Hard to > say. > I have been a believer in changing oil and filter at very regular intervals - > about 3000 miles when I was running dino. More like 4K to 5K with the > synthetics. I had an 86 Taurus engine apart at over 100K miles due to a bad > head gasket and the inside looked like new and it never had synthetic oil. > I guess I have to think that any oil is better than no oil and clean oil is > better than expensive dirty oil. > However, engines have become expensive and complex and I sort of think of the > synthetic as being more insurance against an expensive failure. My truck is a > 2013 F150 with the 5 litre coyote engine. It only has about 39K miles on it. > My wife's car is a 2007 Honda Accord with about 70K miles (if my memory is > correct). We are not putting huge miles on so I only change the oil in either > of them about 2X each year. Dino oil might be fine but the cost difference is > minimal so I will likely carry on with the M1 in both of them. > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting
It does have eds but nothing needs to be reset. Just fix the vacuum leak. I did have one once that had a bad rack position sensor in the IP which caused the eds to put it in limp mode with no boost. The fix in that case is was to send another IP I had on had out to get rebuilt, which was cheaper than sending the IP out that was in the car to get the bad sensor replaced. The other solution is to get a different turbo or waste gate that is pressure operated instead of vacuum operated. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Those cars have EDS (Electronic Diesel Something) also, so no vacuum signal > means the computer needs reset, or no boost. > > Rick > Original Message > From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 4:50 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard Shifting > > There are dozens of vacuum lines on that car. Any one of them is probably > become disconnected or had the rubber connector split or something. I had to > replace a couple of connectors before Craig got it. It's probably got very > little boost as well since a vacuum leak will cause the wastegate to not > close. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
If you are using Dino oil which I do and you use factory internals, not doing extended drains, then it really doesn't matter. I used either Delvac 1300, or Walmart did have a castrol diesel oil for less than $10 per gallon I was using. Had all the same ratings etc. I did not see it last time. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 08/08/2017 4:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >>> On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote:> I wonder what difference one might see if >>> one were to put a gallon of >>> the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or >>> two and then pour them out. >> 30 years ago, it was the difference between ketchup and olive oil. >> But "dino" oils have made huge advances, including some with base II and >> base III stocks added to them, and "synthetic" oils may have stayed the same >> or gotten worse. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ > > So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1. > What dino oil is good oil? > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
> On August 8, 2017 at 6:05 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1. > What dino oil is good oil? For your purposes, I think you have it figured out. Buy a liter of something, stick it in the deep freeze overnight, and see what happens. After you test a few brands and pick a winner, set the losers aside for use in the lawn mower. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
I have the same year truck/engine but only have 9,000 miles on it. It mostly hauls the fuel barrel to the gas station to fill for the airplane, and no ethanol fuel is now available only three miles from home. I have been using M1 with an addition of ASL Camguard to help protect it while sitting. Camguard is reputed to help protect seldom flown aircraft engines from damaging the cam due to no oil on it when starting, so I hope it's doing the same thing in the Ford. I might switch to a lower cost oil next time though. I change it every year, whether it needs it or not . . . On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 08/08/2017 3:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that >> resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all >> but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I >> believe that Herr Booth was correct, at the time, that M1 was far superior >> and resulted in less wear, etc. However, the oils available to us today >> are >> the same as they were then. The results of that Blackstone Labs study has >> convinced me that there is virtually no difference in the oils we can buy >> today, so go cheap. >> >> > For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . . > I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot > or very cold weather. > Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather. > I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much better in > the cold and provide more immediate protection to things like the bearings > if we use synthetic oils. > I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the > dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two > and then pour them out. > I remember pouring out a jug of dino oil in cold weather and saw a big > lump of some sort that looked like there was a can of the old STP in the > jug. Not sure if the cold caused it to separate from the other ingredients > but that was my thought at the time. Do the modern oils avoid that sort of > thing? Do the synthetics do it better? > The jug that I was pouring was likely 10W30. These days we are using 5W20 > so much thinner to begin with. > I have been running M1 for the last 15 years or more in my trucks and my > wife's car but have never switched the old diesel to it as I have trouble > finding the right grade around here. I only drive it in the summer and it > gets few miles so I have never worried about it. Should I? Hard to say. I > started out using Rotella and have switched to Delo. > Am I wasting my money on the synthetic oils for the other vehicles? Hard > to say. > I have been a believer in changing oil and filter at very regular > intervals - about 3000 miles when I was running dino. More like 4K to 5K > with the synthetics. I had an 86 Taurus engine apart at over 100K miles due > to a bad head gasket and the inside looked like new and it never had > synthetic oil. > I guess I have to think that any oil is better than no oil and clean oil > is better than expensive dirty oil. > However, engines have become expensive and complex and I sort of think of > the synthetic as being more insurance against an expensive failure. My > truck is a 2013 F150 with the 5 litre coyote engine. It only has about 39K > miles on it. My wife's car is a 2007 Honda Accord with about 70K miles (if > my memory is correct). We are not putting huge miles on so I only change > the oil in either of them about 2X each year. Dino oil might be fine but > the cost difference is minimal so I will likely carry on with the M1 in > both of them. > > RB > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in the door. 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-mercedes-300se-w126/6255843481.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iApp Android: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-App Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:16:19 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in > the door. > > 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles > http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-mercedes-300se-w126/6255843481.html I see the dent in the rear lower corner of the driver's door. Where is the paint faded? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
The ad says the paint is faded Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:16:19 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in >> the door. >> >> 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles >> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-mercedes-300se-w126/6255843481.html > > I see the dent in the rear lower corner of the driver's door. > > Where is the paint faded? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:16:19 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > It's nice but overpriced especially with faded paint and a big dent in > the door. > > 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles > http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/d/1990-mercedes-300se-w126/6255843481.html - The zebrano wood trim is glossy except for the trim surrounding the gear selector. - Can't really see that in the pictures. - Power windows work save for the rear passenger side. - Dirty window switch? - The AC is weak but air blows hard and heat is fine. - H ... Necessary in Okieland! - Cruise control does not work. - Resolder the module? - (head gasket was serviced at 85k). - Really? - New serpentine belt at 90k. - Really? It has a timing chain ... - Ignition can sometimes require a second twist of the key - Not cranking enough the first time? - On braking, the driver's front wheel undulates slightly. - Needs brake disk? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes 300SE W126 S-Class with 92k miles $4250
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 20:29:47 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > The ad says the paint is faded I saw that, but thought something would be visible. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
Don DON"T DO IT. Read these two articles http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29 http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238 Russ W On Tue,8/8/17 12:02, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember when they first came out there was a machine that allegedly pushed the fluid in reverse to replace it. When I worked at the dealership, we had a machine that hooked into the cooler lines and cycled a full 14 quarts through the transmission -- but not in reverse. It was the normal direction of flow -- whatever that means. But, it worked great. Years later, I had it done on a couple of my wife's cars at another shop. In fact, I had it done on Craigs 1990 300D when I owned it. I have never had any problems with a car after doing the flush. But, I have heard stories (possibly urban legends) that it has caused transmissions to fail. I'm asking because I am considering trying it on my older BMW. BUT, BMW transmissions are not technically serviceable. There is no dipstick and BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be serv! iced because it is built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for the first change though. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt It's $4.97/quart; a gallon is $17.97, but my store didn't have any. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] An oil question
> On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Don DON"T DO IT. > Read these two articles > http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29 > http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238 Quote of the day, it's like cleaning your air filter by driving on a clean road... 2. Transmission flushes: Running clean fluid through a dirty transmission filter, is like driving on a clean road and hoping to unstop a clogged air filter. When a transmission filter becomes restricted, damage occurs in the transmission. Flushing may only stir up the debris in the pan and further restrict the filter. A flush CANNOT clean the filter. A proper transmission service includes filter replacement on transmissions with replaceable filters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SDL adventures
I have been making Polei pretty for her debut at the Show and Shine this weekend. Instead of Griots products I used Maguires for compounding and wax. It looks ok. I had done the door cards in green to make it more Germanic. There was a white seat I scored from PnP months ago that just sat in the parts room awaiting my idiocy. The front seats that came with Polei had massive tears at the crease in the lower leather fronts. They work just fine, but I am too poor to re-skin. Replacement only has damage to side bolster, same as original. I would need to paint both, so I decided to just paint the replacement and see how I liked it. I pulled the rear bench after I had a few good coats on the driver seat. I have some dish soap diluted and the grey 3M pad to make them really clean. With the nice warm weather, I got good coats and allowed them to bake a few days. That seems to have taken care of the tacky nature. Maybe the smoke in the air and dust helped. This morning I pulled the driver seat out and did the swap. The seat looks really good. Only issue is that the headrest does not work. There are also a pair of two prong hook ups that do not have anything to hook too. These must do a great deal of magic. The back seats look pretty good as well. With the rear seat out I pulled a fresh antenna cable to the center console. There is a lovely Becker in the dash, but with the damage to the rear fender, I have not put a Hirschmann out back. I needed to remove the thresholds to access under the carpet. They were pretty filthy, so I cleaned them up and gave them a coat of green as well. They will live outside for a few days until the show. I did get the siren working. The hole in the receiver/drier got bits ordered, which showed up over the past week. I just got the unit today. The pressure sensor and temp sensors came earlier. I have no idea why all three boxes had to be HUGE and mostly packed with air and this giant stuffing snake. I got two boxes the size of a pair of match boxes in these 18x18x12 cardboard monsters. Same as the drier. At least I will have something to put the 525 viscosity oil in. One day. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL adventures
Pics? On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:14 AM, redghost--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have been making Polei pretty for her debut at the Show and Shine this > weekend. Instead of Griots products I used Maguires for compounding and > wax. It looks ok. > > I had done the door cards in green to make it more Germanic. There was a > white seat I scored from PnP months ago that just sat in the parts room > awaiting my idiocy. The front seats that came with Polei had massive tears > at the crease in the lower leather fronts. They work just fine, but I > am too poor to re-skin. Replacement only has damage to side bolster, same > as original. I would need to paint both, so I decided to just paint the > replacement and see how I liked it. > > I pulled the rear bench after I had a few good coats on the driver seat. I > have some dish soap diluted and the grey 3M pad to make them really clean. > With the nice warm weather, I got good coats and allowed them to bake a few > days. That seems to have taken care of the tacky nature. Maybe the smoke in > the air and dust helped. > > This morning I pulled the driver seat out and did the swap. The seat looks > really good. Only issue is that the headrest does not work. There are also > a pair of two prong hook ups that do not have anything to hook too. These > must do a great deal of magic. The back seats look pretty good as well. > > With the rear seat out I pulled a fresh antenna cable to the center > console. There is a lovely Becker in the dash, but with the damage to the > rear fender, I have not put a Hirschmann out back. I needed to remove the > thresholds to access under the carpet. They were pretty filthy, so I > cleaned them up and gave them a coat of green as well. They will live > outside for a few days until the show. > > I did get the siren working. > > The hole in the receiver/drier got bits ordered, which showed up over the > past week. I just got the unit today. The pressure sensor and temp sensors > came earlier. I have no idea why all three boxes had to be HUGE and mostly > packed with air and this giant stuffing snake. I got two boxes the size of > a pair of match boxes in these 18x18x12 cardboard monsters. Same as the > drier. At least I will have something to put the 525 viscosity oil in. One > day. > > clay > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
