Re: [MBZ] OT: Bumluck and caravan bumper
Loren, I like deer, they taste good. I put one in my freezer today - wrapped up in nice little 1 pound packages. Deer aren't just a road hazard. They are also the most dangerous animal in the woods. There are more hunters in the US hurt by deer every year than by all other wild animals combined. This includes bear & wolves. A buck will come after you if he feels cornered and a doe will attack to protect her fawn. And you won't hear either one until its too late. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Bumluck and caravan bumper Last night I was hoping to beat out the ice storm. Came across a herd of deer on the road. Deer in both lanes on my side of the road. Ice on the shoulders. the one in my lane fell, so I ran over it rather than hit another full-on. So, after somewhere around 1.5 million miles, I had an accident on the road, thanks to the Iowa DNR and their policy of building up deer herds to ridiculous levels at the taxpayer's expense. The deer are the "king's" deer if you want to shoot one, but when they ravage fields and kill and maim on the highway, they are suddenly NOT the "king's" deer. Imagine government being hypocritical! For those who think deer are not a problem, you have no idea how thick the overgrown rats are in eastern Iowa. I estimated over 3,000 per square mile. We loose probably $20,000 to 30,000 per year in damage, just on a 20 acre orchard, not counting the field crops. I successfully avoided 2 other herds on the road in 60 miles. Anyhow, does anyone know how hard it is to change the front bumper cover on a 2000 grand caravan? What do you have to do to get it off? I was very lucky that the bambi was down and I was able to run over it. All I really need is the cover and a plastic inner fender liner. The other good thing is that my bambi was dead. one less to cause more damage. I am counting my blessings that the bambi was not standing and that i didn't end up with it in my lap and didn't have 5 times the damage. I am also glad it didn't ruin a good Mercedes. So, if anyone has a "how to" R&R the front bumper, I'd appreciate the info Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Bumluck and caravan bumper
Last night I was hoping to beat out the ice storm. Came across a herd of deer on the road. Deer in both lanes on my side of the road. Ice on the shoulders. the one in my lane fell, so I ran over it rather than hit another full-on. So, after somewhere around 1.5 million miles, I had an accident on the road, thanks to the Iowa DNR and their policy of building up deer herds to ridiculous levels at the taxpayer's expense. The deer are the "king's" deer if you want to shoot one, but when they ravage fields and kill and maim on the highway, they are suddenly NOT the "king's" deer. Imagine government being hypocritical! For those who think deer are not a problem, you have no idea how thick the overgrown rats are in eastern Iowa. I estimated over 3,000 per square mile. We loose probably $20,000 to 30,000 per year in damage, just on a 20 acre orchard, not counting the field crops. I successfully avoided 2 other herds on the road in 60 miles. Anyhow, does anyone know how hard it is to change the front bumper cover on a 2000 grand caravan? What do you have to do to get it off? I was very lucky that the bambi was down and I was able to run over it. All I really need is the cover and a plastic inner fender liner. The other good thing is that my bambi was dead. one less to cause more damage. I am counting my blessings that the bambi was not standing and that i didn't end up with it in my lap and didn't have 5 times the damage. I am also glad it didn't ruin a good Mercedes. So, if anyone has a "how to" R&R the front bumper, I'd appreciate the info Loren Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
There have been experiments with thermo-electrics. I think they managed to equip a diesel Peterbilt with T/E units which used the heat from the exhaust and eliminated the need for an alternator. I do know that there are small t/e units which will use heat from combustion to power an auger on a pellet stove or a small circulating fan. > From: John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List > > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:07:28 -0800 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat > > > On Dec 11, 2007, at 8:21 PM, OK Don wrote: > >> I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power >> is out, given our all electric house. > > Well I've a fireplace insert and a 6.5 Kw generator. > > However I note for about $100 you can buy a variety of Kerosene or > propane or natural gas heaters approved for indoor use. > > which seems a bit better than jury-rigging a car etc and dealing with > exhaust fumes. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
Dog/MB thread... I'd taken the three dogs on a ride and left the a/c running while I ran into a convenience store. Wembley (who always claimed shotgun) rushed over to the driver's seat and managed to hit the door plunger, locking me out with the car running. Spectaters gathered as I stood outside teasing the dogs until one finally stepped on the center console just enough to lower a window. > From: Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:02:13 -0800 (PST) > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident > > > Now that this has turned to a dog thread... > > I bet nobody else's dog here has its own website: > http://www.bugisthedog.com/ > > MB content: dog likes unimog rides, and his first disgusting act of > puppydom was puking in my lap on the ride home in the 79 300TD > > -Zach > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rustproofing [was: Re: Chrysler Lifetime Warranty]
The problem with steel is that a sheet will have areas with positive and negative ions. Add a conductive solution, like salt water, and you have instant galvanic corrosion (a shorted battery). This is what causes steel car bodies to rust. No other metal or metal alloy has this trait. When you pare a less noble metal with another, it's the less noble metal that corrodes. This is why a zinc anode reduces corrosion on a steel boat hull. But a steel boat hull is one continuous form and the exposed parts of hull & the anode are in the same solution (both are in the water). In other words, for the anode to work it has to be in the same solution as the steel - it has to complete the circuit (the shorted battery). To be effective, you would need attach one anode to the inside of every body panel. If not and salt water washed into the driver door panel & the anode was attached to the inside of the trunk, the anode would do no good. The zinc plating in modern car bodies does is effectively an anode everywhere. The zinc plating slowly oxidizes, protecting the steel as it goes away. By the way, a sacrificial anode will work, as Range Rover discovered with their aluminum bodies a number of years ago. The aluminum bodies literally rotted away & the design cost them huge sums of money in warranty work. Both stainless steel and high carbon steel can be protected by an oxide layer but either can rust under the right conditions. Stainless with a minimum of 13% chromium is protected by a thin layer of chromium oxide. But break the protective layer and don't allow it to re-form and active corrosion can set in. Given time, high carbon steel will develop a natural brown oxide layer. Once this layer forms, the high carbon steel also becomes somewhat corrosion resistant, but not near as resistant as some stainless steels. Weapons manufactures in the 1800's used to artificially create this layer through a process they called browning and they used stale urine in part of the process! You can see the finish on a lot of old rifles and handguns. The finish was replaced later by bluing because bluing is easier to apply. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:44 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Rustproofing [was: Re: Chrysler Lifetime Warranty] On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:39:45 -0500 Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish Marshall would chime in with Elementary Chemistry and tell you > fellows that there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to stop steel from returning > to it's elements as red oxide. > Stainless steel is much slower, probably thousands of year but, it > will get there. > Do can slow down carbon steel. Galvanized was used on Ford Falcons of > the 60's. Every notice that they didn't rust for a long time? They > stopped because they had difficulty with paint quality. > If you don't want it to rust, just keep all oxygen away from it. There used to be kits to add a sacrifical anode to your car and a power supply to power it, but I haven't seen them recently. Do they still exist, or were they ineffective and discontinued? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brabus Edition Unimog?
http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/2007/12/the-black-edition-unimogbiglorryblog-says-show-me-some-respek-yo-.html --- >From the article: Black Edition Unimog, not only the ultimate go-anywhere vehicle, but with extra bling too, for the normal 280hp U500 left-hooker has been given the Brabus 'treatment' with special paint and decals and tricked up interior from an SL saloon complete with carbon fibre and leather trim seen here. -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
You would not need the heater on. The heat from the radiator itself would be more than enough. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power is out, given our all electric house. Given an attached garage, with a door from the house to the garage - park the car in the garage, duct the exhaust outside, run the car with the doors open and the heater on defrost, use an inverter in the car to power a fan in a duct near the garage ceiling to blow the heated air into the house, using the open door as the air return. Hopefully the leakage around the garage door would supply the engine with combustion air, but not so much leakage that you wouldn't generate any net heat for the house. I'm guessing that most of the energy in the fuel would be converted to heat, extracted by the cooling system and car heater core, and could be circulated through the house, or at least the end adjoining the garage. A leak proof seal to the exhaust pipe would be critical, and leaking oil onto the exhaust manifold would be most unpleasant. Another idea would be to have constructed rollers - like a dyno uses - to drive the car onto to turn a gen head. I'm sure there are holes in this scenario - where are they? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
On Dec 11, 2007, at 8:21 PM, OK Don wrote: > I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power > is out, given our all electric house. Well I've a fireplace insert and a 6.5 Kw generator. However I note for about $100 you can buy a variety of Kerosene or propane or natural gas heaters approved for indoor use. which seems a bit better than jury-rigging a car etc and dealing with exhaust fumes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
Now that this has turned to a dog thread... I bet nobody else's dog here has its own website: http://www.bugisthedog.com/ MB content: dog likes unimog rides, and his first disgusting act of puppydom was puking in my lap on the ride home in the 79 300TD -Zach ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
> I'm sure there are holes in this scenario - where are they? Exhaust leaks. Deadly, yet insidious. Diesels generate much less CO. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
The Joeldog doesn't like chewing on anything other than rawhide bones. At guide dog school, he was given a Nylabone which he'll chew occasionally, but he won't even tug on his tug ring even when it's put into his mouth! I got him to play with it a few times in the beginning, but he'll just walk away from it now. My previous dogs would growl and tug until my arm couldn't take it anymore, but Joel is too serious for that. He does like to roll on his back with his feet in the air and make all kinds of grumbling noises as his tail slaps against the floor, silly doggie! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300Sd 266Kmi, Ursula PS. Joel still thinks that the SD's back seat is the most comfortable in the fleet although it could use a bit more spring, one of the many little projects that will get addressed once the 'Sol is driven out of the shop and the SD goes in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Not sure how, but the neighbor lady has a chrysler car that rid itself of paint. She had the dealer repaint the car in a really ugly green. The original paint lasted about a year, the new paint has been going strong for five years. clay On 11 Dec 2007, at 07:58, Rich Thomas wrote: > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > hiring > a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than just paying > out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still win. SCC is a > PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else to do while > waiting > for your case to come up. > > --R > > Mitch Haley wrote: >> Tom Hargrave wrote: >> >>> Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting >>> Chrysler to >>> honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". >>> >>> Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime >>> warranty has not >>> been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a >>> standard warranty. >>> >> >> I bought a Plymouth new in 1989 with Chrysler Mastershield >> rustproofing, >> lifetime warranty on rust through, limited to $2000, must be >> inspected >> every two years. >> >> Selling dealer kept telling me, since about 1995, not rusted >> through yet, >> nothing we can do. Then that dealer closed, and in 1999, another >> dealer >> told me "gee, what a mess, this should have been fixed years ago". He >> suggested that maybe I should buy another new car and they'd work >> with >> me on the price. I made five phone calls and two more visits to that >> dealer over a three month period, every time to be told "I haven't >> had a chance to talk to my DSM about this yet". >> 2001, same dealer, different manager. Refused to even give me written >> evidence that I brought the car in for inspection. I do have a >> tape of >> me asking for it. Said he'd contact his district service manager, did >> nothing. >> 2003, same dealer, body shop manager #3: Also refused to give me >> confirmation that I brought the car in for inspection as required, >> and I have a tape of this guy telling me not to expect anything, >> because "Chrysler doesn't like to honor its warranties". >> I could go on, but you get the picture. So don't go telling me that I >> don't know what I'm talking about. >> >> Chrysler is a criminal organization that intentionally refuses to pay >> valid warranty claims. There, did I phrase it plainly enough that >> time? >> >> I repeat, how do I get them to pay the $2000 they owe me, without >> taking >> them to court (an action which is long overdue and I am fully >> willing to >> take)? >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
I am intrigued by this type of thing! I'd actually wondered if there was some way to circulate the warm coolant from the car to an exchanger in the HVAC! Actually, about twenty years ago I bought two stainless "hot sticks" from a company that the IRS forced out of business (back taxes). I just found them in the garage this past Fall. I had relocated the hot water heater (electric) closer to an unused flue in the basement and am just now getting around to my plan of thermosiphon. Ironic, that new hot water heater I installed with that intention is now 20 years old and due for replacement. I've got a circulating pump (bought from Grainger also 20 years ago) with intention of circulating domestic hot water through the air handler. In the rural mountains with lots of old brittle pine trees over the primary lines, I've installed transfer switches for most of the neighbors but still haven't gotten around to changing the electrical service for myself. > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:21:40 -0600 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat > > I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power > is out, given our all electric house. > Given an attached garage, with a door from the house to the garage - > park the car in the garage, duct the exhaust outside, run the car with > the doors open and the heater on defrost, use an inverter in the car > to power a fan in a duct near the garage ceiling to blow the heated > air into the house, using the open door as the air return. Hopefully > the leakage around the garage door would supply the engine with > combustion air, but not so much leakage that you wouldn't generate any > net heat for the house. > I'm guessing that most of the energy in the fuel would be converted to > heat, extracted by the cooling system and car heater core, and could > be circulated through the house, or at least the end adjoining the > garage. > A leak proof seal to the exhaust pipe would be critical, and leaking > oil onto the exhaust manifold would be most unpleasant. > > Another idea would be to have constructed rollers - like a dyno uses - > to drive the car onto to turn a gen head. > > I'm sure there are holes in this scenario - where are they? > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
If you find a pair, I would really like one too. SWMBA is pushing for oldest boy to take drivers ed this summer, which means Gump is going to be his to drive and I will need a ride. clay On 10 Dec 2007, at 18:37, Jim Cathey wrote: >> oMBZc: were i able to find an early LWB diesel 460 series G- >> Waggie >> in proper condition, i wouldn't hesitate a heartbeat to use it to >> replace both my XJ and my 300D. ;-) > > I have lust in my heart for a 463 G300D. A _real_ SUV, but it > might actually be halfway economical to feed, and is cushy. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
I guess you weren't the only one that didn't like that posting for some reason since it's been flagged for removal. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
Fritz, some kind of rescued wire haired Lab mix has almost outgrown stealing golf shoes, baseball gloves and such from neighbors' garages. It only became a problem when neigihbors began giving her treats and enticing her into their yards. She did teach the neighborhood children to put away their to were through with play. The only problem now is that should a stranger come around she would show him where the spare house key is hidden. Just to inject something MBZ in the thread, Fritz tree'd the Hatthaway's cat (Hatthaway as in "Miss Jane." The two women next door have a great bass boat, envy of most of the guys in the community) on top of one of the 300s a few mornings ago. The cat did quite a number on the clearcoat. The girls (neighbors) insisted they should pay for the damage but it wasn't a big deal as I'd just gotten an estimate to have the car repainted anyway. > From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:19:01 -0500 > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident > > You guys are making me really appreciate my 100+ lb Yellow Lab. Grandkids > leave toys everywhere and he will not touch them unless put into his mouth > by me or my darling wife. No shoes [since the first time with my slippers a > year ago when he came into the house from a year of destroying the yard] no > boxes, no anything gets chewed. Gotta love that dog. He loves repairmen, > too, though the best I can tell he hasn't actually eaten one. He just tries > to help them work. Makes his own carpet, too [at least in the Spring]. > BillR > If this turns into a dog thread, I didn't start it - I just egged it on. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Allan Streib > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:35 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident > > Heh heh, I dealt with exactly the same thing about a week ago, > luckily the dog had not managed to tear the package open, having > gotten distracted by the christmas lights and tearing those up instead. > > Allan > > > On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > >> Today Jill showed me a torn-up UPS package she found in the yard. >> Apparently the hardtop grab handle came yesterday or today, and the >> dog found it first. The handle's probably a chew toy now, assuming >> it could even be found. >> >> Crap. This sort of behavior is getting _very_ old. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Honda Del Sol Brakes
It's done! The new caliper went in just fine, but I ran into another snag when the driver's rear caliper puck wouldn't go into it's bore. It was then that it hit me like a ton of bricks! The rear calipers have an integrated parking/emergency brake assembly that compresses the pucks when the handle is pulled in the car, and I was thinking that something in that assembly, in some way, was stopping the pucks from being fully compressed. After consulting the wealth of knowledge on the Internet, I found out that they have to be rotated while being pushed in which required some tool that I, of course, didn't have. I removed the caliper from the car, put it into the vise and used a very wide flat screwdriver to turn the puck using its ridges (shaped like an x) as leverage. It pushed in, and I was able to install it with no problem. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
How about putting a heater core in the house, connected to the car with long heater hose? Harry On Dec 11, 2007 10:21 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power > is out, given our all electric house. > Given an attached garage, with a door from the house to the garage - > park the car in the garage, duct the exhaust outside, run the car with > the doors open and the heater on defrost, use an inverter in the car > to power a fan in a duct near the garage ceiling to blow the heated > air into the house, using the open door as the air return. Hopefully > the leakage around the garage door would supply the engine with > combustion air, but not so much leakage that you wouldn't generate any > net heat for the house. > I'm guessing that most of the energy in the fuel would be converted to > heat, extracted by the cooling system and car heater core, and could > be circulated through the house, or at least the end adjoining the > garage. > A leak proof seal to the exhaust pipe would be critical, and leaking > oil onto the exhaust manifold would be most unpleasant. > > Another idea would be to have constructed rollers - like a dyno uses - > to drive the car onto to turn a gen head. > > I'm sure there are holes in this scenario - where are they? > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Emergency House Heat
I've been pondering alternative ways to heat the house when the power is out, given our all electric house. Given an attached garage, with a door from the house to the garage - park the car in the garage, duct the exhaust outside, run the car with the doors open and the heater on defrost, use an inverter in the car to power a fan in a duct near the garage ceiling to blow the heated air into the house, using the open door as the air return. Hopefully the leakage around the garage door would supply the engine with combustion air, but not so much leakage that you wouldn't generate any net heat for the house. I'm guessing that most of the energy in the fuel would be converted to heat, extracted by the cooling system and car heater core, and could be circulated through the house, or at least the end adjoining the garage. A leak proof seal to the exhaust pipe would be critical, and leaking oil onto the exhaust manifold would be most unpleasant. Another idea would be to have constructed rollers - like a dyno uses - to drive the car onto to turn a gen head. I'm sure there are holes in this scenario - where are they? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
You guys are making me really appreciate my 100+ lb Yellow Lab. Grandkids leave toys everywhere and he will not touch them unless put into his mouth by me or my darling wife. No shoes [since the first time with my slippers a year ago when he came into the house from a year of destroying the yard] no boxes, no anything gets chewed. Gotta love that dog. He loves repairmen, too, though the best I can tell he hasn't actually eaten one. He just tries to help them work. Makes his own carpet, too [at least in the Spring]. BillR If this turns into a dog thread, I didn't start it - I just egged it on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident Heh heh, I dealt with exactly the same thing about a week ago, luckily the dog had not managed to tear the package open, having gotten distracted by the christmas lights and tearing those up instead. Allan On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Today Jill showed me a torn-up UPS package she found in the yard. > Apparently the hardtop grab handle came yesterday or today, and the > dog found it first. The handle's probably a chew toy now, assuming > it could even be found. > > Crap. This sort of behavior is getting _very_ old. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
I picked a small bunch of bananas off one of my trees today, very ripe and sweet. Got another small bunch that will be ready in a couple of weeks maybe. --R > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190E 16v valve adjustment
Rick Knoble wrote: > I hope that's what you were looking for... That's it! Thanks Rick. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
Yup - though I had to do that when I put the Olds V8 in the MGA. I keep hearing that drive shaft shops won't balance MB shafts - what if you asked them to balance each half separately - then it wouldn't matter how they are aligned when you assemble and install them. Getting the "right" gen head and associated connection circuitry is what I haven't figured out -- On Dec 11, 2007 9:35 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:30:37 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm thinking that the 240D needs a NA 617 engine in front of the > > manual tranny, and the 616 engine needs to sit in front of a gen head, > > in the back yard. > > Good thinking! You'll have to change or modify the driveshaft, though. > > > Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:11:47 -0500 Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bumper strip separating? That was happening on my '84 as previous > owner had bumped something with bumper which allowed slack. The rubber > bumper has a channel by which it slides onto to "strips" which retain it > to the bumper. They had horizonal (molded) hooks which fit into slots on > the bumper. I reattached mine by threading a piece of wire between the > two strips at the center of the bumper and tightening it, pulling the > two toward center so the hooks engaged the slots. Then I manipulated the > bumper strip to center it. (It was a warm day and I lubed the channel). > > How's 'zat for technical talk, y'all? Not bad. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rustproofing [was: Re: Chrysler Lifetime Warranty]
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:39:45 -0500 Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wish Marshall would chime in with Elementary Chemistry and tell you > fellows that there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to stop steel from returning > to it's elements as red oxide. > Stainless steel is much slower, probably thousands of year but, it > will get there. > Do can slow down carbon steel. Galvanized was used on Ford Falcons of > the 60's. Every notice that they didn't rust for a long time? They > stopped because they had difficulty with paint quality. > If you don't want it to rust, just keep all oxygen away from it. There used to be kits to add a sacrifical anode to your car and a power supply to power it, but I haven't seen them recently. Do they still exist, or were they ineffective and discontinued? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] VIN Check Choices
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:26:40 -0600 "Gary Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > I'm back in the market for something for the youngest daughter to > drive (to replace her totalled Civic). Anyone with experience in both > Carfax and Autocheck have a preference? > > I'll probably be running at least 4 to 5 VINs through, so figured I > might as well pop for a subscription to one or the other. Sorry, I don't have personal experience with either. My feeling (which came from who knows where) is that Carfax is the original and best. Kaleb, though, uses another service. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:30:37 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking that the 240D needs a NA 617 engine in front of the > manual tranny, and the 616 engine needs to sit in front of a gen head, > in the back yard. Good thinking! You'll have to change or modify the driveshaft, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
Heh heh, I dealt with exactly the same thing about a week ago, luckily the dog had not managed to tear the package open, having gotten distracted by the christmas lights and tearing those up instead. Allan On Dec 11, 2007, at 10:31 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Today Jill showed me a torn-up UPS package she found in the yard. > Apparently the hardtop grab handle came yesterday or today, and the > dog found it first. The handle's probably a chew toy now, assuming > it could even be found. > > Crap. This sort of behavior is getting _very_ old. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dog's near-fatal accident
Today Jill showed me a torn-up UPS package she found in the yard. Apparently the hardtop grab handle came yesterday or today, and the dog found it first. The handle's probably a chew toy now, assuming it could even be found. Crap. This sort of behavior is getting _very_ old. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chicken wagon molting
Jill asked me today if the car wasn't supposed to have a piece of molding on the driver's door. "Why yes, it should." Apparently the thing fell off somewhere in the last day or two. All but one of the round clips are gone. Probably there were two left, and when the (front) one fell out or broke the whole thing stripped away. Crap. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:26:12 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asume it costs more to bury the lines? Seems like we'd avoid a lot > of outages if they were'nt flying up there in the trees --- Yes, it costs more for the initial installation to bury the lines. The upkeep, however, is less, as you can imagine. Same reason why lower income people drive gas guzzelers, that's all they can afford for the initial investment. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey Fred
Hi, Curt. Yup I have seen those ads. If I came home with the TD, I'd go to sleep a baritone and wake up a soprano, and not one of those on TV! Want it though! I'm just down the road from his place, so near and yet so far. Fred Moir Lynn MA 85 300TD 87 190DT Bent Parking spot for an '87 300TD . >Have you seen these? >http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/504510057.html >http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/504512110.html > >$1500 for a Jetta diesel seems like a good price, would a '91 n/a be >a dog? The pictures look pretty good but somewhat vauge. His claim >that he "will" get his price is probably valid but they've been on >there for a few months. >-Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
I 'd like to see several thousand people do just that, Alex BillR. < and not crudely like others do. "Crudely" is right. I searched for "saab" and got an ad for Lexus wheels. Waste of my time (and the seller's, too, if I were as dumb as him and emailed him "Will your Lexus wheels fit my 99 EMS???"). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
I have reported afew of those on eBay. Seems less of a problem recently. BillR -Original Message- From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/11/07 6:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords What 's the deal with people putting a long list of irrelevant keywords in their craigslist posting, so that it comes up on searches that have nothing to do with the item for sale? This is the worst offender I've seen yet: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/506230307.html Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
We got power today - twice. It was on fro less than an hour early in the afternoon, then went off for a couple of hours, and has been on for the last three hours - we're starting to believe that it might last through the night. We're very fortunate - most still don't have power, and they aren't expecting to finish restoring it for another 9 days. Ice and snow is forecast to return Friday or Sat. I'm thinking that the 240D needs a NA 617 engine in front of the manual tranny, and the 616 engine needs to sit in front of a gen head, in the back yard. On Dec 11, 2007 11:49 AM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here its not that they plant 'em near the power lines but that they won't let > 'em cut them. > Heck if a tree is reaching out over my power lines and the power company > wants to cut it I tell 'em to go for it! > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
hm... obviously it get your post flagged. > From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:10:34 -0800 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords > > What 's the deal with people putting a long list of irrelevant > keywords in their craigslist posting, so that it comes up on searches > that have nothing to do with the item for sale? > > This is the worst offender I've seen yet: > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/506230307.html > > Alex Chamberlain > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
Oh goodie! Something I've just recently experienced!? Tank: I just had a fuel tank replaced. The tank vent apparently had become clogged and vacume was causeing the tank to implode. It reached the point that my tank capacity was only about 8 ga.. By that time the fuel sending unit had been damaged and also had to be replaced. Though I replaced the tank with a used one, advice on list was that it could be repaired with air pressure. (Mine was too far gone.) At any rate, check your fuel vent line? The bumper strip separating? That was happening on my '84 as previous owner had bumped something with bumper which allowed slack. The rubber bumper has a channel by which it slides onto to "strips" which retain it to the bumper. They had horizonal (molded) hooks which fit into slots on the bumper. I reattached mine by threading a piece of wire between the two strips at the center of the bumper and tightening it, pulling the two toward center so the hooks engaged the slots. Then I manipulated the bumper strip to center it. (It was a warm day and I lubed the channel). How's 'zat for technical talk, y'all? > From: "Dave H..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:07:50 -0500 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT > > Hi All, > > I have a couple of questions concerning my Ladies really sweet 1984 300DT. > (148,000 miles) > > I can remember that when the gas gauge reads 1/4 tank it is really empty, > she can't. How do I go about diagnosing the problem and then repairing it? > > This same vehicle on the rear bumper has the standard rubber strip across > the center, it is beginning to separate from the bumper how do I permanently > reattach it? > > > Dave H... > > ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
Might want to get the tank cleaned and the strainer replaced at the same time - likely you have "algae" growing in the tank that plugs the tank screen around a quarter tank. Check the clear fuel filter -- I'll bet it's black with flakey stuff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey...
uh...lets call that lack of sleepI just woke up and I'm getting ready to shower for work. Luther On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:11:40 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> Dang... I've got this idea for my SDL...adding SLS from a 560. > > Why would you need the ABS pump for the SLS system? Just use the tandem > PS pump like the wagons do. > > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
Hi all, I believe that if you check the "only search titles" box, the other "stuff/keywords" are not included into your Craigslist search YMMV Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
On Dec 11, 2007 3:41 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is called exposure, done to ensure that as many people as possible > look at the ad in the hope that someone will buy the crap you are > selling, even though they didn't want it. > For example if you where to sell a Merc, it would pay to put in keywords > that others may be looking for like, luxury four door, V8 powered, auto > climate control, low mileage, prestige, limousine, sunroof, etc. Then > someone looking for a fancy car will see your ad and go hmmnh that looks > nice, I might buy that. > Of course you being the fine word smith you are would do this tastefully > and not crudely like others do. "Crudely" is right. I searched for "saab" and got an ad for Lexus wheels. Waste of my time (and the seller's, too, if I were as dumb as him and emailed him "Will your Lexus wheels fit my 99 EMS???"). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
This is called exposure, done to ensure that as many people as possible look at the ad in the hope that someone will buy the crap you are selling, even though they didn't want it. For example if you where to sell a Merc, it would pay to put in keywords that others may be looking for like, luxury four door, V8 powered, auto climate control, low mileage, prestige, limousine, sunroof, etc. Then someone looking for a fancy car will see your ad and go hmmnh that looks nice, I might buy that. Of course you being the fine word smith you are would do this tastefully and not crudely like others do. Hendrik who believes in truth in advertising and Santa Alex Chamberlain wrote: > What 's the deal with people putting a long list of irrelevant > keywords in their craigslist posting, so that it comes up on searches > that have nothing to do with the item for sale? > > This is the worst offender I've seen yet: > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/506230307.html > > Alex Chamberlain > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords
That's crazy. Doesn't CL have some people that checks these before they are put on? Or do they rely on people to read them and then flag them? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Craigslist keywords What 's the deal with people putting a long list of irrelevant keywords in their craigslist posting, so that it comes up on searches that have nothing to do with the item for sale? This is the worst offender I've seen yet: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/506230307.html Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
On Dec 11, 2007 2:31 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dead link now, so we're not the only ones voting "scam". > "This posting has been flagged for removal" > > Too bad, it was interesting to look at, because it didn't look like a typical scam post to me---the description sounded genuine, not like cut 'n' paste copy from a manufacturer's web site, and the pictures seemed to depict the item described as well. I might have to give up and buy a Chinese generator after all. :( Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist keywords
What 's the deal with people putting a long list of irrelevant keywords in their craigslist posting, so that it comes up on searches that have nothing to do with the item for sale? This is the worst offender I've seen yet: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/506230307.html Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300DT
Hi All, I have a couple of questions concerning my Ladies really sweet 1984 300DT. (148,000 miles) I can remember that when the gas gauge reads 1/4 tank it is really empty, she can't. How do I go about diagnosing the problem and then repairing it? This same vehicle on the rear bumper has the standard rubber strip across the center, it is beginning to separate from the bumper how do I permanently reattach it? Dave H... ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
My 68 Chevy pickup appears to have had some better treatment or better steel than most of the vehicles since. If it gets a scratch (and it has plenty of them) the steel rusts at bit but then just sits there. It does not seem to get any worse over time. My 86 Chevy Suburban, on the other hand, would corrode in big scaly patches if anything touched it. Was the steel better way back when or did they treat it in some manner that they later determined was not necessary or too expensive or what?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:27 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty I agree. The real issue is that to be effective, the rustproofing must penetrate every seam in the car body & it's just not possible with a spray on coating. The best rust proofing comes from the factory. They start with coated steel for the body panels then the complete bodies go through a bath that coats 100% of the inside & outside of the body panels with primer before paint. Problem is, neither of these two methods in wide spread use until the late 80s. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/11/07 02:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi, Those rustproof services a valid only in the desert states. CA NE Texas etc. Chicago dealers sell the goop undercoating a lot. Really good for the payment period only. All a bunch of crap from a body tech:do not buy it! Ed in Chicago SALTY 34F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They won't "Roll Over". They have a Bazillion lawers who are on retainer, they'll sent a Jr. Partner. BTDT Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib > Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. > > Rich Thomas writes: > > > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than > > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still > > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else > > to do while waiting for your case to come up. > > > > --R > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Replace the smoke in your wires
Man...I wish those were available when I had my TR7... Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred Johnson Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:58 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Replace the smoke in your wires Note: forwarded message attached. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Fred Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT Replace the smoke in your wires Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:08:45 -0800 (PST) Size: 749 Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071211/a65 1dece/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
Dead link now, so we're not the only ones voting "scam". "This posting has been flagged for removal" ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
Scamity Scam Scam. Scammity McScamerton. Certainly you've alerted the CL knucks... Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam? Yes it's a scam. 99% chance. "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a > very good price: > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html > > I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not > harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or > otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and > this is the reply I got: > > "Hi , > The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling > it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. > I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and > I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m > using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without > difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. > They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you > will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. > If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how > MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. > I am waiting your email. > Thanks" > > This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? > > Sigh. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Tom Hargrave wrote: > > You also mentioned Tuff-Kote. I'd argue that since the rust through started > showing at about when it should have in an unprotected car that the > Tuff-Kote undercoating was worthless. Yes, about normal. The Tuff Kote car was two years older than with my car, and I washed mine weekly. OTOH, the Tuff Kote car had 40k on the odo in eight years, mine had about 125k in six years. (51k in the first year) Both cars kept in the Lansing, MI area, except for the year mine spent in Champaign IL. If anything, they seemed to use less salt in Illinois. It's been a long time since "rustproofing" offered any benefit over a decent factory job. When you buy "rustproofing", you're really buying a warranty. But it seems I didn't get one after I paid for it. A friend of mine bought an F250 in October 2001 and took it to Zeibart. Every year he takes it back to them, they clean it thoroughly, retreat it in several places, and relieve him of more $$ (at least the Chrysler inspections were free before they quit doing them for me). He has full perforation around the wheel wells on the outside of the box. I should ask him how this year's inspection/retreatment went. His truck is worse off than my Horizon was at six years. He paid $35k for that truck and intended to keep it for decades. I wouldn't be surprised if the body on his 1966 F100 outlasts the F250. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Replace the smoke in your wires
Note: forwarded message attached. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Fred Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT Replace the smoke in your wires Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:08:45 -0800 (PST) Size: 749 Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071211/a651dece/attachment.mht ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
I wish Marshall would chime in with Elementary Chemistry and tell you fellows that there is NOTHING YOU CAN DO to stop steel from returning to it's elements as red oxide. Stainless steel is much slower, probably thousands of year but, it will get there. Do can slow down carbon steel. Galvanized was used on Ford Falcons of the 60's. Every notice that they didn't rust for a long time? They stopped because they had difficulty with paint quality. If you don't want it to rust, just keep all oxygen away from it. Pete On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:26:54 -0600, you wrote: >I agree. The real issue is that to be effective, the rustproofing must >penetrate every seam in the car body & it's just not possible with a >spray on coating. > >The best rust proofing comes from the factory. They start with coated >steel for the body panels then the complete bodies go through a bath >that coats 100% of the inside & outside of the body panels with primer >before paint. Problem is, neither of these two methods in wide spread >use until the late 80s. > >Tom >www.kegkits.com > >Original Message >From: EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: 12/11/07 02:50 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Hi, > Those rustproof services a valid only in the desert states. CA NE >Texas etc. > Chicago dealers sell the goop undercoating a lot. Really good for the >payment period only. > All a bunch of crap from a body tech:do not buy it! > Ed in Chicago SALTY 34F > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > They won't "Roll Over". They have a Bazillion lawers who are on >retainer, they'll sent a Jr. Partner. > >BTDT > >Pete > >-- Original message -- >From: Allan Streib > >> Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. >> >> Rich Thomas writes: >> >> > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as >> > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than >> > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still >> > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else >> > to do while waiting for your case to come up. >> > >> > --R >> >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Try not to hold it in Mitch! On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:05:56 -0500, you wrote: > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> They'll argue (with some merit) that the cars usefull "life" ended several >> years ago. It has depreciated out, if it was rust free now, it woulk be >> worth about $50. This is and 18 year old, inexpensive car! > >It was a six year old car in mint condition when this saga started. >And if the factory intended it to be a dealer warranty, rather than >a nationwide factory warranty, they committed criminal fraud with >malice aforethought when they provided factory warranty contracts >to the dealers to be used with this program. Here's another data >point: Another Horizon, two years older, also rustproofed when new, >began to show trouble around 94-95, same time as my car. Took it >to Tuff-Kote, they wrote a check on the spot to pay for repairs. >That's the difference between doing business with a legitimate >enterprise and doing business with the orgnized crime syndicate >known as Chrysler. > >Mitch. > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 19Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 286 KMI Now lives with Dave Walton, Cleveland Ohio 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 87 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Good Omen
Tuesday, Dec 10, 2007 about 4:00 AM Eastbound on Route 80 somewhere between Bloomsburg and Milton, Saw a car carrier pulling a mid 1960 MB 110 Chassis I think. About a mile down the road passed a 1983 or so 123 chassis 300D chugging along too. Thought it was neat to see them so close. The 110 chassis looked to be in great shape. Regards Tom Scordato ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
If it is too good to be true then it probably is. I should think the unit would sell for a better price than that given how it looks in the photos. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam? Run away! On Dec 11, 2007 2:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a > very good price: > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html > > I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not > harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or > otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and > this is the reply I got: > > "Hi , > The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling > it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. > I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and > I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m > using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without > difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. > They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you > will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. > If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how > MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. > I am waiting your email. > Thanks" > > This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? > > Sigh. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
I agree. The real issue is that to be effective, the rustproofing must penetrate every seam in the car body & it's just not possible with a spray on coating. The best rust proofing comes from the factory. They start with coated steel for the body panels then the complete bodies go through a bath that coats 100% of the inside & outside of the body panels with primer before paint. Problem is, neither of these two methods in wide spread use until the late 80s. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: EDWARD DENNIS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/11/07 02:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Hi, Those rustproof services a valid only in the desert states. CA NE Texas etc. Chicago dealers sell the goop undercoating a lot. Really good for the payment period only. All a bunch of crap from a body tech:do not buy it! Ed in Chicago SALTY 34F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They won't "Roll Over". They have a Bazillion lawers who are on retainer, they'll sent a Jr. Partner. BTDT Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib > Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. > > Rich Thomas writes: > > > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than > > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still > > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else > > to do while waiting for your case to come up. > > > > --R > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
Run away! On Dec 11, 2007 2:44 PM, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a > very good price: > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html > > I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not > harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or > otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and > this is the reply I got: > > "Hi , > The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling > it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. > I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and > I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m > using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without > difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. > They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you > will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. > If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how > MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. > I am waiting your email. > Thanks" > > This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? > > Sigh. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
Yes it's a scam. 99% chance. "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a > very good price: > > http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html > > I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not > harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or > otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and > this is the reply I got: > > "Hi , > The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling > it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. > I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and > I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m > using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without > difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. > They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you > will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. > If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how > MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. > I am waiting your email. > Thanks" > > This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? > > Sigh. > > Alex Chamberlain > '87 300D Turbo et al. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Is this a scam?
So there was this used Generac diesel generator on Craigslist for a very good price: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/tls/504939058.html I sent the guy an email with a bunch of tech questions about it (not harassing him, just wanted to save myself a trip if it's worn out or otherwise unsuitable to power my house in the next nasty storm), and this is the reply I got: "Hi , The generator is in good working condition and the price I'm selling it for is $1850, which is including all shippings charges. I live in Portland but I`m currently working in the UK (London) and I`ll be staying here for the next approximately 7 months, anyway I`m using MoneyBookers services so I can sell this generator without difficulty. I left it at their warehouse before leaving to the UK. They will take care of the delivery with a 14-day return policy so you will have the chance to inspect it before final decision. If you want to purchase it, let me know and I will explain you how MoneyBookers works and how we can move forward. I am waiting your email. Thanks" This sounds like some kind of Nigerian scam, doesn't it? Sigh. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Hi, Those rustproof services a valid only in the desert states. CA NE Texas etc. Chicago dealers sell the goop undercoating a lot. Really good for the payment period only. All a bunch of crap from a body tech:do not buy it! Ed in Chicago SALTY 34F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They won't "Roll Over". They have a Bazillion lawers who are on retainer, they'll sent a Jr. Partner. BTDT Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib > Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. > > Rich Thomas writes: > > > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than > > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still > > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else > > to do while waiting for your case to come up. > > > > --R > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
The standard Chrysler rust through warranty is 7 years but I believe it was less in the late 80s. 94 - 95 would be about right for the Horizon to show trouble in a rust prone area. You also mentioned Tuff-Kote. I'd argue that since the rust through started showing at about when it should have in an unprotected car that the Tuff-Kote undercoating was worthless. At least they covered their proverbial *ss, unlike the crooked dealership you were dealing with. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > They'll argue (with some merit) that the cars usefull "life" ended several years ago. It has depreciated out, if it was rust free now, it woulk be worth about $50. This is and 18 year old, inexpensive car! It was a six year old car in mint condition when this saga started. And if the factory intended it to be a dealer warranty, rather than a nationwide factory warranty, they committed criminal fraud with malice aforethought when they provided factory warranty contracts to the dealers to be used with this program. Here's another data point: Another Horizon, two years older, also rustproofed when new, began to show trouble around 94-95, same time as my car. Took it to Tuff-Kote, they wrote a check on the spot to pay for repairs. That's the difference between doing business with a legitimate enterprise and doing business with the orgnized crime syndicate known as Chrysler. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] VIN Check Choices
All, I'm back in the market for something for the youngest daughter to drive (to replace her totalled Civic). Anyone with experience in both Carfax and Autocheck have a preference? I'll probably be running at least 4 to 5 VINs through, so figured I might as well pop for a subscription to one or the other. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2 stroke oil
It depends. Amsoil makes a 2 stroke oil you can run at 100:1. I used it some at 60:1 in an old Ski-Doo that called for 20:1 and it was fine. Then I switched to a regular oil at 50:1 and burned that snomwbile down... If I were going to use less oil than the manufacturer called for I'd make sure it was a really good synthetic oil... Yeah it should be considerably better for the lake. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:45:54 -0600 From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I argumentative To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Doesn't a lot of this depend on the quality of the oil too? We are being told that we can run a 50:1 mixture in old outboard motors that originally called for as much as 16:1 mixtures. I am assuming that is mostly because the oil has improved since the 1960's. It makes me a bit nervous to reduce the oil that much but I am told there should not be a problem. If one puts in too much oil, then the motor tends to smoke a lot and things get gummed up. Not only that but from a green point of view, less oil is probably good for the lake as well. Randy - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Go park it in front of a dealer with a big sign on it saying "Lemon" or "POS" or "Ask Me About Warranties" or something like that, drive away customers, see how long it takes to get noticed. Pick a slow day and get the TV news crews out there. --R Mitch Haley wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> They'll argue (with some merit) that the cars usefull "life" ended several >> years ago. It has depreciated out, if it was rust free now, it woulk be >> worth about $50. This is and 18 year old, inexpensive car! >> > > It was a six year old car in mint condition when this saga started. > And if the factory intended it to be a dealer warranty, rather than > a nationwide factory warranty, they committed criminal fraud with > malice aforethought when they provided factory warranty contracts > to the dealers to be used with this program. Here's another data > point: Another Horizon, two years older, also rustproofed when new, > began to show trouble around 94-95, same time as my car. Took it > to Tuff-Kote, they wrote a check on the spot to pay for repairs. > That's the difference between doing business with a legitimate > enterprise and doing business with the orgnized crime syndicate > known as Chrysler. > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > They'll argue (with some merit) that the cars usefull "life" ended several > years ago. It has depreciated out, if it was rust free now, it woulk be > worth about $50. This is and 18 year old, inexpensive car! It was a six year old car in mint condition when this saga started. And if the factory intended it to be a dealer warranty, rather than a nationwide factory warranty, they committed criminal fraud with malice aforethought when they provided factory warranty contracts to the dealers to be used with this program. Here's another data point: Another Horizon, two years older, also rustproofed when new, began to show trouble around 94-95, same time as my car. Took it to Tuff-Kote, they wrote a check on the spot to pay for repairs. That's the difference between doing business with a legitimate enterprise and doing business with the orgnized crime syndicate known as Chrysler. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] small claims court
In Connecticut, anyone doing business has to be registered with Secratary of State. They are required to designate their "Agent of Service". That is who you have the sherriff serve, very simple and gets their attention. Pete -- Original message -- From: "Glenn Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Regarding the Chrysler warranty and small claims court suggestion, I don't > know what state you're in but it's a waste of time in NY. All the person > being sued has to do is have the business incorporated in someone else's > name and the next step requires a lawyer in order to file the appropriate > papers and it wasn't worth it in my case. There are many business owners > with questionable ethics who know how to beat the system. Good luck. > > GG. M. Brown > Brevard, NC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire kickers...
the flip side is also true - I have a POS MB for sale, and several people have come by just to waste my time and lowball me. I mean, they lowballed to insulting levels, worse than Kaleb. And in my description, I was -quite- accurate as to the condition. On Dec 11, 2007 1:41 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ernest wrote << it's amazing what kind of POSs some sellers will want to > waste your > time to show you even when you're *very* specific about the condition of > what you're looking for>> > > I think much of this is due to the general lack of knowledge about MBs - > some people see the 3 pointed Star and see an $80K vehicle - regardless of > age or condition. I imagine the same is true of people seeing a RR, > Ferrari > Porsche or other exotic car. Many people seldom see these cars and when > they do they look past the warts. I haven;t looked at many private owned > vehicles of this caliber but the ones I see at used car lots have the same > mentality. There was an auction a fe months ago. I wanted tog o just to > see how the process worked. They required some registration of the > potential buyers which I agreed to but to get into the tent where the > exotic > cars were showing req'd a $10K letter of credit or cashiers's check. I > asked why and they said the Maybach they had was a $800k car - I started > to > argue since they sell for less than $500k unless they get a *lot* of > options - which this one did not have - but the lady on the hone had been > told the MB Maybachs were outrageously expensive and she went with what > she > was told. > > I don't know who they're fooling - the people with the money to buy > something like these cars know the value - those who are impressed by > incorrect claims don't have the money to do anything with the information > so > I still don't understand why sellers exaggerate the condition of cars they > are selling - > > Anyway - it's odd that people see our old MBs and think they're as > valuable > as ne ones. I was traveling to a engineering office with a couple of > other > members of our team and we all rode in the same rental car. We passed a > 70s > 220/240 struggling to get thru an intersection when oneof the engineers > said, "Look - an $80,000 car and he ran out of gas." A reasonably > intelligent guy possessing little knowledge of older MBs. Maybe the > people > trying to pass off a POS are hoping someone like that will come by and > drop > several thousand more than the car is worth - just so they can drive away > in > a MB. > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire kickers... > > > >i wouldn't be surprised; but i spent 6 months looking over a 450 mile > > range for a 300D i deemed worth buying, and have had other MBZ-heads > > drooling on it ever since asking how i was able to find one in such > > great condition with only 120K miles on it... > > > >it's amazing what kind of POSs some sellers will want to waste your > > time to show you even when you're *very* specific about the condition of > > what you're looking for. only a few people were upstanding enough to > > actually say "this might not be what you're looking for", while the > > condition of other vehicles people wanted to show me differed enough > > from the description to be downright criminal. > > > > > > cheers! > > e > > > > > > Timothy Robinson wrote: > >> I'd almost forgotten I had a car listed on Craigslist. I got a call > this > >> morning, a guy asking was it still available and could he see it. The > guy > >> was calling from three hours away. He intended to drive today (short > >> notice) to see the car. I gave him directions. I had meetings today but > >> I'd > >> left the car for service with the mechanic over the weekend so he was > >> welcome to go by the shop, talk to the mechanic and drive the car if he > >> wished. I even suggested if the car (W123) didn't stike him that the > >> mechanic also had several W123 diesels for sale. > >> > >> > >> This evening having heard nothing from the feller, I called the > mechanic. > >> The guy indeed did show up. He drove the car. He liked it. He also > looked > >> at > >> five other cars, driving one or two. Told the mechanic he'd looked at > >> several other cars the past week, said "Thanks" and left. > >> > >> We were just amazed to have someone drive six hours round trip just to > >> "kick > >> tires." > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] Tire kickers...
Ernest wrote << it's amazing what kind of POSs some sellers will want to waste your time to show you even when you're *very* specific about the condition of what you're looking for>> I think much of this is due to the general lack of knowledge about MBs - some people see the 3 pointed Star and see an $80K vehicle - regardless of age or condition. I imagine the same is true of people seeing a RR, Ferrari Porsche or other exotic car. Many people seldom see these cars and when they do they look past the warts. I haven;t looked at many private owned vehicles of this caliber but the ones I see at used car lots have the same mentality. There was an auction a fe months ago. I wanted tog o just to see how the process worked. They required some registration of the potential buyers which I agreed to but to get into the tent where the exotic cars were showing req'd a $10K letter of credit or cashiers's check. I asked why and they said the Maybach they had was a $800k car - I started to argue since they sell for less than $500k unless they get a *lot* of options - which this one did not have - but the lady on the hone had been told the MB Maybachs were outrageously expensive and she went with what she was told. I don't know who they're fooling - the people with the money to buy something like these cars know the value - those who are impressed by incorrect claims don't have the money to do anything with the information so I still don't understand why sellers exaggerate the condition of cars they are selling - Anyway - it's odd that people see our old MBs and think they're as valuable as ne ones. I was traveling to a engineering office with a couple of other members of our team and we all rode in the same rental car. We passed a 70s 220/240 struggling to get thru an intersection when oneof the engineers said, "Look - an $80,000 car and he ran out of gas." A reasonably intelligent guy possessing little knowledge of older MBs. Maybe the people trying to pass off a POS are hoping someone like that will come by and drop several thousand more than the car is worth - just so they can drive away in a MB. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "ernest breakfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tire kickers... >i wouldn't be surprised; but i spent 6 months looking over a 450 mile > range for a 300D i deemed worth buying, and have had other MBZ-heads > drooling on it ever since asking how i was able to find one in such > great condition with only 120K miles on it... > >it's amazing what kind of POSs some sellers will want to waste your > time to show you even when you're *very* specific about the condition of > what you're looking for. only a few people were upstanding enough to > actually say "this might not be what you're looking for", while the > condition of other vehicles people wanted to show me differed enough > from the description to be downright criminal. > > > cheers! > e > > > Timothy Robinson wrote: >> I'd almost forgotten I had a car listed on Craigslist. I got a call this >> morning, a guy asking was it still available and could he see it. The guy >> was calling from three hours away. He intended to drive today (short >> notice) to see the car. I gave him directions. I had meetings today but >> I'd >> left the car for service with the mechanic over the weekend so he was >> welcome to go by the shop, talk to the mechanic and drive the car if he >> wished. I even suggested if the car (W123) didn't stike him that the >> mechanic also had several W123 diesels for sale. >> >> >> This evening having heard nothing from the feller, I called the mechanic. >> The guy indeed did show up. He drove the car. He liked it. He also looked >> at >> five other cars, driving one or two. Told the mechanic he'd looked at >> several other cars the past week, said "Thanks" and left. >> >> We were just amazed to have someone drive six hours round trip just to >> "kick >> tires." > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1179 - Release Date: > 12/9/2007 11:06 AM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listi
[MBZ] small claims court
Regarding the Chrysler warranty and small claims court suggestion, I don't know what state you're in but it's a waste of time in NY. All the person being sued has to do is have the business incorporated in someone else's name and the next step requires a lawyer in order to file the appropriate papers and it wasn't worth it in my case. There are many business owners with questionable ethics who know how to beat the system. Good luck. GG. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
Here its not that they plant 'em near the power lines but that they won't let 'em cut them. Heck if a tree is reaching out over my power lines and the power company wants to cut it I tell 'em to go for it! -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:40:43 -0600 From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Or if idiots didn't plant large trees next to power lines as they do in our area Luther - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Mitch, You are accusing Chrysler of being criminal when you were actually dealing with a crooked dealership. The lifetime warranty rust through package was actually sold by the dealership & they profited from the sale. The sale included an undercoating package & a 2 year inspection. The every 2 year inspection was designed to head off damage before it became too great & this is where the crooked dealership fell short. They should have ID'd the damage & repaired it early. But instead, they let it ride, hoping you would sell the car. You are trying to make the next dealership inherit a mess and I don't blame them for doing as little as possible. They know that the other dealership was crooked & I'd bet that your car is not the only disaster they are dealing with. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 12/11/07 09:43 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler to > honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". > > Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime warranty has not > been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a standard warranty. I bought a Plymouth new in 1989 with Chrysler Mastershield rustproofing, lifetime warranty on rust through, limited to $2000, must be inspected every two years. Selling dealer kept telling me, since about 1995, not rusted through yet, nothing we can do. Then that dealer closed, and in 1999, another dealer told me "gee, what a mess, this should have been fixed years ago". He suggested that maybe I should buy another new car and they'd work with me on the price. I made five phone calls and two more visits to that dealer over a three month period, every time to be told "I haven't had a chance to talk to my DSM about this yet". 2001, same dealer, different manager. Refused to even give me written evidence that I brought the car in for inspection. I do have a tape of me asking for it. Said he'd contact his district service manager, did nothing. 2003, same dealer, body shop manager #3: Also refused to give me confirmation that I brought the car in for inspection as required, and I have a tape of this guy telling me not to expect anything, because "Chrysler doesn't like to honor its warranties". I could go on, but you get the picture. So don't go telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about. Chrysler is a criminal organization that intentionally refuses to pay valid warranty claims. There, did I phrase it plainly enough that time? I repeat, how do I get them to pay the $2000 they owe me, without taking them to court (an action which is long overdue and I am fully willing to take)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
They'll argue (with some merit) that the cars usefull "life" ended several years ago. It has depreciated out, if it was rust free now, it woulk be worth about $50. This is and 18 year old, inexpensive car! Your jousting with Windmills... Pete -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tom Hargrave wrote: > > > > Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler to > > honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". > > > > Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime warranty has not > > been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a standard > > warranty. > > I bought a Plymouth new in 1989 with Chrysler Mastershield rustproofing, > lifetime warranty on rust through, limited to $2000, must be inspected > every two years. > > Selling dealer kept telling me, since about 1995, not rusted through yet, > nothing we can do. Then that dealer closed, and in 1999, another dealer > told me "gee, what a mess, this should have been fixed years ago". He > suggested that maybe I should buy another new car and they'd work with > me on the price. I made five phone calls and two more visits to that > dealer over a three month period, every time to be told "I haven't > had a chance to talk to my DSM about this yet". > 2001, same dealer, different manager. Refused to even give me written > evidence that I brought the car in for inspection. I do have a tape of > me asking for it. Said he'd contact his district service manager, did > nothing. > 2003, same dealer, body shop manager #3: Also refused to give me > confirmation that I brought the car in for inspection as required, > and I have a tape of this guy telling me not to expect anything, > because "Chrysler doesn't like to honor its warranties". > I could go on, but you get the picture. So don't go telling me that I > don't know what I'm talking about. > > Chrysler is a criminal organization that intentionally refuses to pay > valid warranty claims. There, did I phrase it plainly enough that time? > > I repeat, how do I get them to pay the $2000 they owe me, without taking > them to court (an action which is long overdue and I am fully willing to > take)? > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
nah, they are going to weasel out of all of those warranty claims once they come about. On Dec 11, 2007 9:17 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler > to > honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". > > > > Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime warranty has not > been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a standard > warranty. > > > > My wife worked on the Chrysler five star certification team a while ago > and > she'll tell you in a second that they have an excellent service program. > But, take you car in with a worn out engine & 4" of sludge in the pan and > you & the service manager will have a discussion. > > > > Regardless of the manufacturer, we are mostly responsible for engines that > wear out early. There are some exceptions, like the 3.8 liter engine in my > Son's M class, the "rod bender" Mercedes diesels and the late 80's > Mitsubishi V-6. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
They won't "Roll Over". They have a Bazillion lawers who are on retainer, they'll sent a Jr. Partner. BTDT Pete -- Original message -- From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. > > Rich Thomas writes: > > > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than > > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still > > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else > > to do while waiting for your case to come up. > > > > --R > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jeep smokers
Kevin, i think you're probably correct; thanks for the clarification! cheers! e Kevin Kraly wrote: > The 80's Diesel cherokees were powered by a Renault 2.1L 4 cylinder > engine, and parts are practically impossible to find for them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey...
Luther wrote: > Dang... I've got this idea for my SDL...adding SLS from a 560. Why would you need the ABS pump for the SLS system? Just use the tandem PS pump like the wagons do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
I have not read all of the posts in regard to this subject so forgive me if I'm way off the topic here. Don't know what is available in the US but I note that there are ads in the paper here this morning for new Grand Cherokees with an MB diesel engine. About $45K if my memory is correct. Randy in Winnipeg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Am I argumentative
Doesn't a lot of this depend on the quality of the oil too? We are being told that we can run a 50:1 mixture in old outboard motors that originally called for as much as 16:1 mixtures. I am assuming that is mostly because the oil has improved since the 1960's. It makes me a bit nervous to reduce the oil that much but I am told there should not be a problem. If one puts in too much oil, then the motor tends to smoke a lot and things get gummed up. Not only that but from a green point of view, less oil is probably good for the lake as well. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of tom savage Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Am I argumentative Curt Raymond wrote: > I also got into an oil thread on a snowmobile board today. One guy swears to > use 40:1 mix in sled that call for 50:1. I'm just politely pointing out that the engineers that designed it probably knew better than anybody how much oil it should have and out of the blue some other guy is calling me a girly man... Not that it has any relevance whatsoever to a snowmobile, girly man, but the Marshall Booths of the Trabant world say to always run 40:1 instead of the specified 50:1. They do run better with the richer mix... Tom P.S. Just kidding about the girly part. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
SCC won't do that, but you can get your filing fees back. --R Allan Streib wrote: > Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. > > Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as >> hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than >> just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still >> win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else >> to do while waiting for your case to come up. >> >> --R >> > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pointless vehicles
Well, I sure would like to have one of those too but I am afraid I would kill the diesel with too many short trips in the winters. The problem is that sometimes one needs to haul and sometimes one doesn't. Can't have enough different vehicles as there is nowhere to park them all and it is too expensive to carry insurance on a bunch of them. So, I drive the gas Supercrew back and forth to the office because that is my "winter" vehicle and my summer hauler going to the cottage and back. If I could, I might have a smaller car to drive around in the city. In the summer I use the old 300D around town. A diesel truck would be nice on the longer summer trips too but again, winter would kill it and I can't justify another vehicle right now. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:04 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pointless vehicles <> Not nearly as silly as $50K four door jacked up 4WD diesel pickups hauling or towing nothing. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an actual car question
no On Dec 11, 2007 11:19 AM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was the battery coated in ice? > > Bob R. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:16 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question > > that's why the car wouldn't start. no power. > > On Dec 11, 2007 11:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > DUDE, I have no power. Probably wont till next week. I can only check > my > > mail at work since we do have power there. > > > > --- > > Kaleb C. Striplin > > Cox Auto Trader > > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:02 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question > > > > > > > yeah, chime in after everyone else has concluded it relates to the > > > battery! > > > > > > and, btw, the problem was a drained battery and it started right up > when > > > jumped. > > > > > > On Dec 11, 2007 9:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> battery need to be charged? > > >> > > >> --- > > >> Kaleb C. Striplin > > >> Cox Auto Trader > > >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > >> > > >> - Original Message - > > >> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" > > >> > > >> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:06 PM > > >> Subject: [MBZ] an actual car question > > >> > > >> > > >> >i usually drive my 79 280ce, but i've been driving the 300td because > > >> >i've > > >> > taken the dogs everywhere since we got the german dog. i now feel > ok > > >> with > > >> > leaving them on their own, so i went out to drive the 280 this > > morning. > > >> > it > > >> > just made a sound like a toy machine gun while cranking and the > > engine > > >> was > > >> > not turning at all. my first thought is that the starter is hosed, > > but > > >> > the > > >> > starter is pretty new. what you guys think? > > >> > ___ > > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an actual car question
Was the battery coated in ice? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question that's why the car wouldn't start. no power. On Dec 11, 2007 11:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DUDE, I have no power. Probably wont till next week. I can only check my > mail at work since we do have power there. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question > > > > yeah, chime in after everyone else has concluded it relates to the > > battery! > > > > and, btw, the problem was a drained battery and it started right up when > > jumped. > > > > On Dec 11, 2007 9:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> battery need to be charged? > >> > >> --- > >> Kaleb C. Striplin > >> Cox Auto Trader > >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" > >> > >> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:06 PM > >> Subject: [MBZ] an actual car question > >> > >> > >> >i usually drive my 79 280ce, but i've been driving the 300td because > >> >i've > >> > taken the dogs everywhere since we got the german dog. i now feel ok > >> with > >> > leaving them on their own, so i went out to drive the 280 this > morning. > >> > it > >> > just made a sound like a toy machine gun while cranking and the > engine > >> was > >> > not turning at all. my first thought is that the starter is hosed, > but > >> > the > >> > starter is pretty new. what you guys think? > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
It'll be like being at the Ritz Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids EXACTLY, Except we have hot water and indoor plumbing, they are not used to that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids > Shouldn't be much different from rural Maine?? :) > > Luther > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an actual car question
that's why the car wouldn't start. no power. On Dec 11, 2007 11:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > DUDE, I have no power. Probably wont till next week. I can only check my > mail at work since we do have power there. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:02 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question > > > > yeah, chime in after everyone else has concluded it relates to the > > battery! > > > > and, btw, the problem was a drained battery and it started right up when > > jumped. > > > > On Dec 11, 2007 9:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > >> battery need to be charged? > >> > >> --- > >> Kaleb C. Striplin > >> Cox Auto Trader > >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" > >> > >> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:06 PM > >> Subject: [MBZ] an actual car question > >> > >> > >> >i usually drive my 79 280ce, but i've been driving the 300td because > >> >i've > >> > taken the dogs everywhere since we got the german dog. i now feel ok > >> with > >> > leaving them on their own, so i went out to drive the 280 this > morning. > >> > it > >> > just made a sound like a toy machine gun while cranking and the > engine > >> was > >> > not turning at all. my first thought is that the starter is hosed, > but > >> > the > >> > starter is pretty new. what you guys think? > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190E 16v valve adjustment
I hope that's what you were looking for... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT - Original Message - From: "tom savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: [MBZ] 190E 16v valve adjustment >I need to set the valves in the 16v. I thought I had the relevant > section of manual around here somewhere, but can't find it. Could > anyone send the file my way? > > Many thanks, > Tom > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 201 16v.rtf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 144877 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20071210/0b606869/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pointless vehicles (pointless numbers?)
Curt Raymond wrote: > > Ever look at the economy numbers? The H3 with 5cyl is a whopping 18! > The H2 I don't think gets into double digits but fueleconomy.gov doesn't > have numbers for it. I wonder if the H2 is in the same category as 3/4 ton pickups, which don't have EPA mileage ratings due to their being too large to consider passenger vehicles. Before they downgraded the ratings, I didn't have trouble beating the EPA highway ratings. I got 38-39mpg in my 1980 Citation, don't know for sure what EPA hwy was, but it sure wasn't that high. 1989 Horizon, rated 24/34, I averaged a bit under 35 for the first 100,000 miles. Was a bit under 36mpg before I put on a right outside mirror and P195/60HR14 tires in place of the P165/80R13. Drove at 45mph for one tank to see what was possible, got 43mpg. 1986 2.3-16, rated 18/22, I was getting 26-27 this summer. Don't want to know what mpg it's been getting the last month or so, it doesn't like cold weather AFAICT. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
EXACTLY, Except we have hot water and indoor plumbing, they are not used to that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids > Shouldn't be much different from rural Maine?? :) > > Luther > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey...
I have loads of ABS pumps --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey... >> *perk* ABS pump? What would that be worth to you? > > Well, I sort of have this vague in-the-future idea > involving toad and/or trailer braking... > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an actual car question
DUDE, I have no power. Probably wont till next week. I can only check my mail at work since we do have power there. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] an actual car question > yeah, chime in after everyone else has concluded it relates to the > battery! > > and, btw, the problem was a drained battery and it started right up when > jumped. > > On Dec 11, 2007 9:12 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> battery need to be charged? >> >> --- >> Kaleb C. Striplin >> Cox Auto Trader >> 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes Discussion List" >> >> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:06 PM >> Subject: [MBZ] an actual car question >> >> >> >i usually drive my 79 280ce, but i've been driving the 300td because >> >i've >> > taken the dogs everywhere since we got the german dog. i now feel ok >> with >> > leaving them on their own, so i went out to drive the 280 this morning. >> > it >> > just made a sound like a toy machine gun while cranking and the engine >> was >> > not turning at all. my first thought is that the starter is hosed, but >> > the >> > starter is pretty new. what you guys think? >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Also ask for compensation for your time, as well as legal fees. Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as > hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than > just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still > win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else > to do while waiting for your case to come up. > > --R -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Pointless vehicles
Ever look at the economy numbers? The H3 with 5cyl is a whopping 18! The H2 I don't think gets into double digits but fueleconomy.gov doesn't have numbers for it. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:00:26 -0600 From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Pointless vehicles To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Scott Ritchey wrote: > I'd have to say the Hummer H2/H3 are right up there in the pointless class > ... all the bas attributes of a real HMWWV without most of the capabilities. I agree... they can't even haul stuff on the inside. My brother works for the electronics department at Wal-mart, and they couldn't fit a 47" TV in the back (it was Plasma so had to be upright). They had to take it out of the box to make it fit. John - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Take them to small claims court, they will probably roll over as hiring a lawyer to deal with this will likely cost them more than just paying out. Even if they do fight it, you will probably still win. SCC is a PITA but can be kinda fun if you have something else to do while waiting for your case to come up. --R Mitch Haley wrote: > Tom Hargrave wrote: > >> Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler to >> honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". >> >> Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime warranty has not >> been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a standard warranty. >> > > I bought a Plymouth new in 1989 with Chrysler Mastershield rustproofing, > lifetime warranty on rust through, limited to $2000, must be inspected > every two years. > > Selling dealer kept telling me, since about 1995, not rusted through yet, > nothing we can do. Then that dealer closed, and in 1999, another dealer > told me "gee, what a mess, this should have been fixed years ago". He > suggested that maybe I should buy another new car and they'd work with > me on the price. I made five phone calls and two more visits to that > dealer over a three month period, every time to be told "I haven't > had a chance to talk to my DSM about this yet". > 2001, same dealer, different manager. Refused to even give me written > evidence that I brought the car in for inspection. I do have a tape of > me asking for it. Said he'd contact his district service manager, did > nothing. > 2003, same dealer, body shop manager #3: Also refused to give me > confirmation that I brought the car in for inspection as required, > and I have a tape of this guy telling me not to expect anything, > because "Chrysler doesn't like to honor its warranties". > I could go on, but you get the picture. So don't go telling me that I > don't know what I'm talking about. > > Chrysler is a criminal organization that intentionally refuses to pay > valid warranty claims. There, did I phrase it plainly enough that time? > > I repeat, how do I get them to pay the $2000 they owe me, without taking > them to court (an action which is long overdue and I am fully willing to > take)? > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee
Wait, that got my attention. My '96 Dakota has a largeish area where the paint is flaking off... Whats the scoop? -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:32:52 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Diesel Powered Grand Cherokee To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain I sued in small claim's court. Paint (silver) was flaking off my '92 Dakota, judgement was $1200 for me. Pete -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Kevin Kraly wrote: > > > > When I bought the '07 Dodge Diesel pickup, the salesman > > basically told me that they were selling well enough on their own without > > the lifetime warranty gimic. > > I never consult salesmen for expert opinions on vehicles, or even > corporate marketing strategy. I suspect the real reason is that > they don't expect people to keep the gassers long enough to wear > out the engines, and the ones who do they intend to ignore until > they give up and sell the car. I have experience with the "ignore > the customer and hope he goes away" strategy with a lifetime > rustproofing warranty claim from Chrysler. > > Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler to > honor a lifetime warranty without suing them? > > Mitch. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids
Shouldn't be much different from rural Maine?? :) Luther On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:49:21 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tomorrow night. We have no power but have heat from a couple of gas log > fireplaces, hot running water etc, and candles/flashlights. > > --- > Kaleb C. Striplin > Cox Auto Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:31 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Funeral and kids > > >> Kaleb - when are the kids due to arrive? Have power yet? The OKC >> airport was closed yesterday, I guess the Tulsa airport was closed as >> well. >> >> -- >> OK Don, KD5NRO >> Norman, OK >> "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." >> -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain >> '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Lifetime Warranty
Tom Hargrave wrote: > > Mitch asked: "Does anybody have a workable strategy for getting Chrysler to > honor a lifetime warranty without suing them?". > > Now that's a loaded question, since the Chrysler lifetime warranty has not > been out long enough for any of the vehicles to go past a standard warranty. I bought a Plymouth new in 1989 with Chrysler Mastershield rustproofing, lifetime warranty on rust through, limited to $2000, must be inspected every two years. Selling dealer kept telling me, since about 1995, not rusted through yet, nothing we can do. Then that dealer closed, and in 1999, another dealer told me "gee, what a mess, this should have been fixed years ago". He suggested that maybe I should buy another new car and they'd work with me on the price. I made five phone calls and two more visits to that dealer over a three month period, every time to be told "I haven't had a chance to talk to my DSM about this yet". 2001, same dealer, different manager. Refused to even give me written evidence that I brought the car in for inspection. I do have a tape of me asking for it. Said he'd contact his district service manager, did nothing. 2003, same dealer, body shop manager #3: Also refused to give me confirmation that I brought the car in for inspection as required, and I have a tape of this guy telling me not to expect anything, because "Chrysler doesn't like to honor its warranties". I could go on, but you get the picture. So don't go telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about. Chrysler is a criminal organization that intentionally refuses to pay valid warranty claims. There, did I phrase it plainly enough that time? I repeat, how do I get them to pay the $2000 they owe me, without taking them to court (an action which is long overdue and I am fully willing to take)? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!
Or if idiots didn't plant large trees next to power lines as they do in our area Luther On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:26:12 -0600, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More tree limbs fell during the night. One took out our mailbox, > another was across the hod of the SDL this morning - looks like it > fell, then bounced over - no dents that I can see. > The house is at 60F, outside is up to 33F, it's raining. This is the > largest power outage that OK has had, over 500k homes. We saw bright > flashed of blue light last night while driving - reflecting off the > cloud cover. Must have been more power lines coming down. > Out house is served by underground lines, but the sub-station is fed > by above ground lines, so it doesn't buy us much. > I asume it costs more to bury the lines? Seems like we'd avoid a lot > of outages if they were'nt flying up there in the trees --- > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey...
Dang... I've got this idea for my SDL...adding SLS from a 560. Luther On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:33:00 -0600, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> *perk* ABS pump? What would that be worth to you? > > Well, I sort of have this vague in-the-future idea > involving toad and/or trailer braking... > > -- Jim > > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No power
In doesn't rain but it FREEZES. The entire state of OK is 70 percent w/o power. Hope you get some relief soon. On Dec 10, 2007 5:33 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same thing here - power's still out. Been cutting and moving fallen > tree limbs all day, and they are still coming down. Limbs were > blocking all the cars except the 300D, so I took Doris to work, and > have spent all day dealing with the limbs. > > On Dec 10, 2007 7:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > WE are having a hell of an ice storm. Yesterday morning my internet > went down because my provider lost power the next down over. Then in the > middle of the night its cold in the house so I wake up to discover no power. > Fun getting ready in the morning in the dark. Made it to work though > although nobody else is here yet. > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Paging Mr Cathey...
> *perk* ABS pump? What would that be worth to you? Well, I sort of have this vague in-the-future idea involving toad and/or trailer braking... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
