Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I wonder if the replacement will work on a big OM372. The one on the Pisten 
Bully leaks terribly when in use. Seems fine when locked down though.

 -Curt

On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 10:09:48 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





If the primer pump is bad it’s DOA no matter what due to air getting into the 
system or no fuel flow.

As I recall, when these fail the engine will not start.

Is it possibly the original “mushroom” style pump with the white plastic knob 
that you have to unscrew to release it or the updated version with the black 
(fixed) knob?

If it’s the original version I would change it to the updated pump on principle.

-D

> On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping driveway,
> with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
> isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug fuse
> and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).
> 
> Could this be a lift pump problem?
> tinyurl.com/2624bc78
> Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

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> If the primer pump is bad it’s DOA no matter what due to air getting into the 
> system or no fuel flow.

In a pinch you can re-seal the originals.  My 2006 notes on the 240D we had:

Had a look at the manual fuel primer pump.  Not as leaky as I'd
thought.  A little exercise seems to have helped it out too.  I pulled
it off and had a closer look at it.  Really quite a simple device.
The big worry is that if it leaks fuel when you use it it's in danger
of leaking air when you're not using it, and causing starting or
running problems as a result.  The knob on top screws down against a
sealing ring that's on the shaft of the pump, it's very easy to see
how it works and what kind of condition it's in (when off the engine
that is).  The air seal on this one was marginal, but still intact.
Figuring that it was worth a shot, I got out my gasket punch set and
punched a clean 3/4" hole in a sheet of Buna-N rubber scrap I got
from a supply house.  (They couldn't figure out how to sell me such a
small piece, yet it's probably a lifetime supply for my needs.)  Then
I cut out a circle around this, with scissors (the OD is non-critical)
and substituted this for the very tired seal that was on the pump.
Fits fine, and works fine too.  That should reset the clock on that
pump.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I beg to differ. Not brilliance, experience.

I’m amazed that one of the mushroom style pumps is still in service. Those 
things have gone the way of CRT TVs from what I know.

Thankfully, an easy fix. Swap it out and all should be well regardless of how 
the car is parked.

-D

On Mar 15, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:


And, you are certifiably brilliant. That is exactly my problem. It has the 
original primer and when I pump there is no resistance.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 10:09 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
If the primer pump is bad it’s DOA no matter what due to air getting into the 
system or no fuel flow.

As I recall, when these fail the engine will not start.

Is it possibly the original “mushroom” style pump with the white plastic knob 
that you have to unscrew to release it or the updated version with the black 
(fixed) knob?

If it’s the original version I would change it to the updated pump on principle.

-D

> On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping driveway,
> with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
> isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug fuse
> and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).
>
> Could this be a lift pump problem?
> tinyurl.com/2624bc78
> Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?
>
> Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And, you are certifiably brilliant. That is exactly my problem. It has the
original primer and when I pump there is no resistance.

On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 10:09 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If the primer pump is bad it’s DOA no matter what due to air getting into
> the system or no fuel flow.
>
> As I recall, when these fail the engine will not start.
>
> Is it possibly the original “mushroom” style pump with the white plastic
> knob that you have to unscrew to release it or the updated version with the
> black (fixed) knob?
>
> If it’s the original version I would change it to the updated pump on
> principle.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping
> driveway,
> > with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
> > isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug
> fuse
> > and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).
> >
> > Could this be a lift pump problem?
> > tinyurl.com/2624bc78
> > Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?
> >
> > Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If the primer pump is bad it’s DOA no matter what due to air getting into the 
system or no fuel flow.

As I recall, when these fail the engine will not start.

Is it possibly the original “mushroom” style pump with the white plastic knob 
that you have to unscrew to release it or the updated version with the black 
(fixed) knob?

If it’s the original version I would change it to the updated pump on principle.

-D

> On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping driveway,
> with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
> isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug fuse
> and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).
> 
> Could this be a lift pump problem?
> tinyurl.com/2624bc78
> Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?
> 
> Andrew
> 1985 300SD cabernet red
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Did you try pumping the primer?

Did you CHANGE YOUR FILTERS?

—FT

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> On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping driveway,
> with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
> isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug fuse
> and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).
> 
> Could this be a lift pump problem?
> tinyurl.com/2624bc78
> Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?
> 
> Andrew
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[MBZ] 300SD lift pump

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My 1985 300SD was running fine until I drove it onto the sloping driveway,
with the car facing uphill.  Now it won't start.  It attempts to fire but
isn't receiving fuel.  I have ruled out the fuel filters and glow plug fuse
and relay (the pre glow light functions normally).

Could this be a lift pump problem?
tinyurl.com/2624bc78
Or a defective primer pump?  Something else?

Andrew
1985 300SD cabernet red
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD 4x4

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Very cool

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD 4x4

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Absolutely everything about that car and the background of every photo backs up 
rural Missouri location.

On Sun, Jul 24, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks like a 617 to me 
>
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>> On Jul 24, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m assuming that although it says fuel type Diesel, it’s powered by the 
>> Expedition’s Ford  Triton V8, not the OM617.951. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD 4x4

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Looks like a 617 to me 

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> On Jul 24, 2022, at 3:22 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> I’m assuming that although it says fuel type Diesel, it’s powered by the 
> Expedition’s Ford  Triton V8, not the OM617.951. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD 4x4

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I’m assuming that although it says fuel type Diesel, it’s powered by the 
Expedition’s Ford  Triton V8, not the OM617.951. 

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[MBZ] 300SD 4x4

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/443198797707522/


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD in PA

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Wicked


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> Take 6 bennies and take it home
>
> --FT
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> > On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Love the interior, drives and stops, and only $900.  Supposedly rusty.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD in PA

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Take 6 bennies and take it home

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[MBZ] 300SD in PA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Love the interior, drives and stops, and only $900.  Supposedly rusty.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/261380618764296/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search
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[MBZ] 300SD on BAT with anthracite gray interior

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I thought this was only available as an exterior color.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-mercedes-benz-300sd-14/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-01-05
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD in NY

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No pics. Could be a rustbucket depending on who the third gen was

--FT
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> I bet this is a good deal
> https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/d/saugerties-1983-mercedes-300sd/6890242078.html
> 
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[MBZ] 300SD in NY

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

I bet this is a good deal
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/cto/d/saugerties-1983-mercedes-300sd/6890242078.html


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[MBZ] 300SD with pimp rims $800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5737617808.html


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I do have the all-seeing googles but for some reason it doesn't like his 
postings, or some others that others have posted.  Maybe the monitoring 
bots feel I am insufficiently worthy


--JC


On 6/27/16 1:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you need to have a Google+ account?  Resistance is futile, you WILL
be assimilated...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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For some reason I can't load any photos in the link

--JC



On 6/26/16 9:10 PM, Robin Midgett via Mercedes wrote:


Hi Joel,
Thank you. 37076. I sent you an invitation to view the photos of the
parts.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and

location

--R



On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes

 wrote:

Greetings,


Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
to some on the list.
Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from
MercedesSource.com
(new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
things.
Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
individual pieces or the lot.

Welcome to the list, Robin.

The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Robin Midgett via Mercedes]

It's odd that some folks have trouble while others do not when it comes to
sharing files on Google Drive.
If there are particular pieces you're interested in, I'll send the photos
directly. You can also find most of these up for sale on eBay; my seller ID
is remidgett.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
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> For some reason I can't load any photos in the link
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 6/26/16 9:10 PM, Robin Midgett via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel,
>> Thank you. 37076. I sent you an invitation to view the photos of the
>> parts.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and
>>> location
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
  wrote:

 Greetings,

> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
> to some on the list.
> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from
> MercedesSource.com
> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
> things.
> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
> individual pieces or the lot.
>
> Welcome to the list, Robin.

 The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

 I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
 bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe you need to have a Google+ account?  Resistance is futile, you WILL
be assimilated...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> For some reason I can't load any photos in the link
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 6/26/16 9:10 PM, Robin Midgett via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel,
>> Thank you. 37076. I sent you an invitation to view the photos of the
>> parts.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and
>>> location
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
  wrote:

 Greetings,

> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
> to some on the list.
> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from
> MercedesSource.com
> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
> things.
> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
> individual pieces or the lot.
>
> Welcome to the list, Robin.

 The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

 I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
 bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

For some reason I can't load any photos in the link

--JC


On 6/26/16 9:10 PM, Robin Midgett via Mercedes wrote:

Hi Joel,
Thank you. 37076. I sent you an invitation to view the photos of the parts.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and
location

--R



On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:


On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
 wrote:

Greetings,

Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
to some on the list.
Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
(new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
things.
Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
individual pieces or the lot.


Welcome to the list, Robin.

The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Robin Midgett via Mercedes]

Hi Joel,
Thank you. 37076. I sent you an invitation to view the photos of the parts.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and
> location
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Greetings,
>>> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
>>> to some on the list.
>>> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
>>> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
>>> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
>>> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
>>> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
>>> things.
>>> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
>>> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
>>> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
>>> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
>>> individual pieces or the lot.
>>>
>> Welcome to the list, Robin.
>>
>> The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
>> bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I have 2 '84 300SDs, would be interested in the bits, need prices and 
location


--R


On 6/26/16 5:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
 wrote:


Greetings,
Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
to some on the list.
Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
(new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
things.
Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
individual pieces or the lot.

Welcome to the list, Robin.

The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

1990 350SDL

Dan

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:25:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I love mine.  Tough to get the grin off my face every time I drive it.
> 
> So again, what model and year is it?
> 
> 
> Craig
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'90.  Mine (now Tim's) is '91.

Wilt

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Craig" <diese...@pisquared.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 6:45 PM
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On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:25:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I love mine.  Tough to get the grin off my face every time I drive it.


So again, what model and year is it?


Craig



> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> You would love a 126 300 or 350sdl. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes

>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes

>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,

>>> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be
>>> useful to some on the list.
>>> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit
>>> plus an Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from
>>> MercedesSource.com (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new
>>> battery tray, transmission modulator valve, turbo drain parts,
>>> vacuum hose, window regualtors, alternator brushes, remanufactured
>>> A/C compressor, perhaps a few more things.
>>> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
>>> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
>>> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
>>> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
>>> individual pieces or the lot.
>> 
>> Welcome to the list, Robin.
>> 
>> The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one

>> yet.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently

>> bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, me, too.

Wilton

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I love mine.  Tough to get the grin off my face every time I drive it.

Dan


On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


You would love a 126 300 or 350sdl.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:


On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Greetings,
Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
to some on the list.
Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from 
MercedesSource.com

(new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
things.
Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
individual pieces or the lot.


Welcome to the list, Robin.

The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 18:25:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I love mine.  Tough to get the grin off my face every time I drive it.

So again, what model and year is it?


Craig

 
> > On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You would love a 126 300 or 350sdl. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be
> >>> useful to some on the list.
> >>> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit
> >>> plus an Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from
> >>> MercedesSource.com (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new
> >>> battery tray, transmission modulator valve, turbo drain parts,
> >>> vacuum hose, window regualtors, alternator brushes, remanufactured
> >>> A/C compressor, perhaps a few more things.
> >>> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
> >>> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
> >>> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
> >>> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
> >>> individual pieces or the lot.
> >> 
> >> Welcome to the list, Robin.
> >> 
> >> The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one
> >> yet.
> >> 
> >> I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
> >> bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Craig
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broken left rear trailing arm)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)

Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I love mine.  Tough to get the grin off my face every time I drive it.

Dan


> On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You would love a 126 300 or 350sdl. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
>>> to some on the list.
>>> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
>>> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
>>> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
>>> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
>>> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
>>> things.
>>> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
>>> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
>>> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
>>> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
>>> individual pieces or the lot.
>> 
>> Welcome to the list, Robin.
>> 
>> The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.
>> 
>> I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
>> bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

You would love a 126 300 or 350sdl. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
>> to some on the list.
>> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
>> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
>> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
>> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
>> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
>> things.
>> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
>> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
>> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
>> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
>> individual pieces or the lot.
> 
> Welcome to the list, Robin.
> 
> The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.
> 
> I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
> bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:58:01 -0500 Robin Midgett via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Greetings,
> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful
> to some on the list.
> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
> things.
> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp &
> fuel gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these
> repair/maintenance items. Photos available, offers considered on
> individual pieces or the lot.

Welcome to the list, Robin.

The 300SD is a model in which I am interested, but I don't have one yet.

I don't know if anyone on the list does have one. Dan Penoff recently
bought a W126, but I don't recall which model it is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Misc. Bits Available

[Robin Midgett via Mercedes]

Greetings,
Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful to
some on the list.
Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
(new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
things.
Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp & fuel
gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
Please let me know if you're interested in any of these repair/maintenance
items. Photos available, offers considered on individual pieces or the lot.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Robin Midgett  wrote:

> Greetings,
> Having sold my 1985 300SD, I'm left with a few bits that may be useful to
> some on the list.
> Oil filters, fuel filters, fuse assortment, Sunroof Service Kit plus an
> Instrument Cluster Removal & Replacement manuals from MercedesSource.com
> (new, unused), exhaust system hangers, a new battery tray, transmission
> modulator valve, turbo drain parts, vacuum hose, window regualtors,
> alternator brushes, remanufactured A/C compressor, perhaps a few more
> things.
> Also, I have a tachometer & clock plus an oil pressure, water temp & fuel
> gauge from the instrument cluster of a 1980 300D available.
> Please let me know if you're interested in any of these repair/maintenance
> items. Photos available, offers considered on individual pieces or the lot.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 300sd oil pressure gauge

[Meade Dillon]

I think that is what my E300 did, connection on the back of the instrument
cluster was loose.  Gauge read full pressure as soon as the key was turned.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Apr 22, 2014 10:51 PM, Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote:

 If w126 Gauge will read max if wire at sender is off or circuit is open.
I found
 This out when I changed the oil pan a couple of months ago.Thanks Ron
Courcy


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[MBZ] 300sd oil pressure gauge

[Ronald Courcy]

If w126 Gauge will read max if wire at sender is off or circuit is open. I found
This out when I changed the oil pan a couple of months ago.Thanks Ron Courcy
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

On 2/9/2014 9:01 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Gorgeous day today, 60F+ so I got the boy's 300SD sorted and washed 
and plated and it is back on the road for mama as the girl took her 
300SD.  Runs well, a few niggles to deal with.


I was doing some test ride to make sure it was running OK and went up 
the road to a small shopping center and a Ferrari transporter was 
pulling into the lot, from central Florida Ferrari.  I drove around a 
bit and came back and they had unloaded a maroon Ferrari, I don't 
know what model, I guess the newest one.  It was gorgeous.  The 
transporter had another inside with the front end smashed and 4 
others back in there too.  The Ferrari dude looked quite happy, had 
some of his posse with him.  He looked vaguely like Ralph Lipshitz 
(Lauren) but it wasn' t Ralphie.


I replaced the rear rotors and pads on the Suburban, one set of pads 
had plum woe out and metal on metal was Not Good.  That side was 
extremely difficult to get the pads and caliper back on --too tight 
--, and during my drive to bed them in a bit it is very clearly 
dragging and stinking like crazy and hot.  I could spin the wheel but 
it was hard, so I am thinking it just needs to wear down the pads a 
bit?  I had fully compressed the pistons so not sure what the problem 
was.  The other one went on fine with a bit of clearance, both rotors 
appear to be the same but I am thinking I should measure them and 
make sure the one is the proper thickness.  Any ideas?


--R


Had that happen a number of years ago.  Turned out that the piston did 
not fully retract and it wasn't obviously visually.  Ever since then I 
use a C-clamp to push in the piston; tightening it slowly and keeping it 
in the center of the piston.

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Rich Thomas]

I compressed the pistons on both sides with a C-clamp, one side had 
quite a bit of clearance when I put the new pads/rotor on, the other one 
seemed compressed all the way (at least it would not go any further and 
there was not much of the pistons showing) but was a really tight fit (I 
had to persuade it a bit).


I have the ABS fuse pulled as the control unit failed with the motor 
on and it was draining the battery.  I tried to get at the controller 
as it appears a resoldering will fix it, but the thing is just about 
inaccessible, right about a frame rail under the body floor under driver 
seat.  Hoses look OK but I was thinking I should probably change those 
too.  I have to do another 100k service now at 200k miles, so brake 
fluid change is on that list.


---R

On 2/10/14 8:44 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

On 2/9/2014 9:01 PM, Dieselhead wrote:


I replaced the rear rotors and pads on the Suburban, one set of pads 
had plum woe out and metal on metal was Not Good. That side was 
extremely difficult to get the pads and caliper back on --too tight 
--, and during my drive to bed them in a bit it is very clearly 
dragging and stinking like crazy and hot.  I could spin the wheel 
but it was hard, so I am thinking it just needs to wear down the 
pads a bit?  I had fully compressed the pistons so not sure what the 
problem was.  The other one went on fine with a bit of clearance, 
both rotors appear to be the same but I am thinking I should measure 
them and make sure the one is the proper thickness.  Any ideas?


--R


Had that happen a number of years ago.  Turned out that the piston did 
not fully retract and it wasn't obviously visually.  Ever since then I 
use a C-clamp to push in the piston; tightening it slowly and keeping 
it in the center of the piston.

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Rich Thomas]

Yeah I was thinking that too, might be time for a new caliper after 14 
years and 200k miles.


Yesterday was quite pleasant but more freezing stuff coming, so might 
have to wait a few days until the Yankee weather leaves us again.


--R


On 2/9/14 6:45 PM, G Mann wrote:

I'm betting that wheel has a stuck/dragging caliper and that is why it was
metal to metal.. and where it's headed again...

Consider that. You may want to go back into that wheel for a rework..






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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Gary Hurst]

that fat guy sure sells the right stuff!


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I was originally going to guess the cheap junk pads you'd bought cheap. I
 got a set from Car Quest (the better quality, red maybe?) for the rears my
 190D and they were thick, took an awful long time for them to bed in. The
 last thing I ever bought from Q was a set of front pads for that car, they
 had no such troubles. I probably shoulda gone to Dr Fatty but realized I
 needed the brakes done on a Friday and needed the car on Monday.

 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Curt Raymond]

Personally I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, however what I've 
heard from others is positive.

My needs for stuff have been limited lately, however in the spring when its 
time to get the 240D going a certain fat man will get the parts order.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:48:08 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Curt Raymond]

I was originally going to guess the cheap junk pads you'd bought cheap. I got a 
set from Car Quest (the better quality, red maybe?) for the rears my 190D and 
they were thick, took an awful long time for them to bed in. The last thing I 
ever bought from Q was a set of front pads for that car, they had no such 
troubles. I probably shoulda gone to Dr Fatty but realized I needed the brakes 
done on a Friday and needed the car on Monday.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Gary Hurst]

i will count the days!


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Personally I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, however what
 I've heard from others is positive.

 My needs for stuff have been limited lately, however in the spring when
 its time to get the 240D going a certain fat man will get the parts order.

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:48:08 -0500
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Dan Penoff]

Plus the added benefit of being sexy!

D

 On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Personally I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, however what I've 
 heard from others is positive.
 
 My needs for stuff have been limited lately, however in the spring when its 
 time to get the 240D going a certain fat man will get the parts order.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:48:08 -0500
 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Dieselhead]

MIGHT BE THE CALIPER NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.


I compressed the pistons on both sides with a C-clamp, one side had 
quite a bit of clearance when I put the new pads/rotor on, the other 
one seemed compressed all the way (at least it would not go any 
further and there was not much of the pistons showing) but was a 
really tight fit (I had to persuade it a bit).


I have the ABS fuse pulled as the control unit failed with the motor 
on and it was draining the battery.  I tried to get at the 
controller as it appears a resoldering will fix it, but the thing is 
just about inaccessible, right about a frame rail under the body 
floor under driver seat.  Hoses look OK but I was thinking I should 
probably change those too.  I have to do another 100k service now at 
200k miles, so brake fluid change is on that list.


---R


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[arche...@embarqmail.com]

I got a note from Gary saying 2 door strikers were on the way at a cost 
of $50.  Then I thought $50 each or $50 for both?  So, I looked up 
several prices for door strikers on the internet, wrote them down, and 
sent them to Gary asking what he meant.  Turned out that the $50 price 
was for both, and he was several dollars cheaper than the same brands on 
the internet.  'Way to go, Gary!

Gerry


On 2/10/2014 12:07 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

i will count the days!


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


Personally I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, however what
I've heard from others is positive.

My needs for stuff have been limited lately, however in the spring when
its time to get the 240D going a certain fat man will get the parts order.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 11:48:08 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question
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[MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Rich Thomas]

Gorgeous day today, 60F+ so I got the boy's 300SD sorted and washed and 
plated and it is back on the road for mama as the girl took her 300SD.  
Runs well, a few niggles to deal with.


I was doing some test ride to make sure it was running OK and went up 
the road to a small shopping center and a Ferrari transporter was 
pulling into the lot, from central Florida Ferrari.  I drove around a 
bit and came back and they had unloaded a maroon Ferrari, I don't know 
what model, I guess the newest one.  It was gorgeous.  The transporter 
had another inside with the front end smashed and 4 others back in there 
too.  The Ferrari dude looked quite happy, had some of his posse with 
him.  He looked vaguely like Ralph Lipshitz (Lauren) but it wasn' t Ralphie.


I replaced the rear rotors and pads on the Suburban, one set of pads had 
plum woe out and metal on metal was Not Good.  That side was extremely 
difficult to get the pads and caliper back on --too tight --, and during 
my drive to bed them in a bit it is very clearly dragging and stinking 
like crazy and hot.  I could spin the wheel but it was hard, so I am 
thinking it just needs to wear down the pads a bit?  I had fully 
compressed the pistons so not sure what the problem was.  The other one 
went on fine with a bit of clearance, both rotors appear to be the same 
but I am thinking I should measure them and make sure the one is the 
proper thickness.  Any ideas?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[G Mann]

I'm betting that wheel has a stuck/dragging caliper and that is why it was
metal to metal.. and where it's headed again...

Consider that. You may want to go back into that wheel for a rework..


On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Gorgeous day today, 60F+ so I got the boy's 300SD sorted and washed and
 plated and it is back on the road for mama as the girl took her 300SD.
  Runs well, a few niggles to deal with.

 I was doing some test ride to make sure it was running OK and went up the
 road to a small shopping center and a Ferrari transporter was pulling into
 the lot, from central Florida Ferrari.  I drove around a bit and came back
 and they had unloaded a maroon Ferrari, I don't know what model, I guess
 the newest one.  It was gorgeous.  The transporter had another inside with
 the front end smashed and 4 others back in there too.  The Ferrari dude
 looked quite happy, had some of his posse with him.  He looked vaguely like
 Ralph Lipshitz (Lauren) but it wasn' t Ralphie.

 I replaced the rear rotors and pads on the Suburban, one set of pads had
 plum woe out and metal on metal was Not Good.  That side was extremely
 difficult to get the pads and caliper back on --too tight --, and during my
 drive to bed them in a bit it is very clearly dragging and stinking like
 crazy and hot.  I could spin the wheel but it was hard, so I am thinking it
 just needs to wear down the pads a bit?  I had fully compressed the pistons
 so not sure what the problem was.  The other one went on fine with a bit of
 clearance, both rotors appear to be the same but I am thinking I should
 measure them and make sure the one is the proper thickness.  Any ideas?

 --R


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD, Ferrari. and Suburban brake question

[Dieselhead]

Gorgeous day today, 60F+ so I got the boy's 300SD sorted and washed 
and plated and it is back on the road for mama as the girl took her 
300SD.  Runs well, a few niggles to deal with.


I was doing some test ride to make sure it was running OK and went 
up the road to a small shopping center and a Ferrari transporter was 
pulling into the lot, from central Florida Ferrari.  I drove around 
a bit and came back and they had unloaded a maroon Ferrari, I don't 
know what model, I guess the newest one.  It was gorgeous.  The 
transporter had another inside with the front end smashed and 4 
others back in there too.  The Ferrari dude looked quite happy, had 
some of his posse with him.  He looked vaguely like Ralph Lipshitz 
(Lauren) but it wasn' t Ralphie.


I replaced the rear rotors and pads on the Suburban, one set of pads 
had plum woe out and metal on metal was Not Good.  That side was 
extremely difficult to get the pads and caliper back on --too tight 
--, and during my drive to bed them in a bit it is very clearly 
dragging and stinking like crazy and hot.  I could spin the wheel 
but it was hard, so I am thinking it just needs to wear down the 
pads a bit?  I had fully compressed the pistons so not sure what the 
problem was.  The other one went on fine with a bit of clearance, 
both rotors appear to be the same but I am thinking I should measure 
them and make sure the one is the proper thickness.  Any ideas?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Sold!

I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
going back home to Stuttgart.

Jaime



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

 Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I saw an identical car with working ac etc here for $2500.

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On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Dan Penoff]

What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old enough 
that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?

I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped to 
Europe.

Dan


On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Jon Agne]

I've spent a great deal of time in northern Europe over the past 8 years, and 
all of the older classic Benzes have rusted away to nothing.  There is a strong 
demand over there for rust free cars from the US south and southwest.


On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

 What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old 
 enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?
 
 I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped to 
 Europe.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 --
 Jaime Kopchinski
 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Andrew Strasfogel]

I wonder if I can sell my white 300TD to a Cherman.


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:

 I've spent a great deal of time in northern Europe over the past 8 years,
 and all of the older classic Benzes have rusted away to nothing.  There is
 a strong demand over there for rust free cars from the US south and
 southwest.


 On Aug 31, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

  What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old
 enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?
 
  I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped
 to Europe.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
  Sold!
 
  I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this
 week.
  So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
  going back home to Stuttgart.
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
  http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  --
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  http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[OK Don]

My 1962 BMW R69S went back to Germany, and stayed. I sold it to my brother,
who was being assigned to a Persing Missle post, and he took it with him,
then sold it to a local for more than twice what he paid me.


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old
 enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?

 I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped to
 Europe.

 Dan


 On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

  Sold!
 
  I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
  So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
  going back home to Stuttgart.
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
  http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  --
  Jaime Kopchinski
  http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Wish I still had my silver R26 (1960) single cylinder BMW. Bought it for
$250 sold it a year later for $290.  This was awhile ago.


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 1962 BMW R69S went back to Germany, and stayed. I sold it to my brother,
 who was being assigned to a Persing Missle post, and he took it with him,
 then sold it to a local for more than twice what he paid me.


 On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old
  enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?
 
  I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped
 to
  Europe.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
   Sold!
  
   I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this
 week.
   So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
   going back home to Stuttgart.
  
   Jaime
  
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Hi all,
   Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
   http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
  
   Jaime
  
  
  
   --
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   http://www.jaimekop.com/
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I sold a 560sl to a guy in Germany.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old 
 enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?
 
 I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped to 
 Europe.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Andrew Strasfogel]

how?


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 I sold a 560sl to a guy in Germany.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

  What is with all of these older MBs going back to Europe?  Are they old
 enough that they don't have to meet TUV inspections?
 
  I have seen a number of cars on Benzworld end up being sold and shipped
 to Europe.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
  Sold!
 
  I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this
 week.
  So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
  going back home to Stuttgart.
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
  http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
  --
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  http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Richard Hattaway]

Yeah, but comming from where you live it was probably a rust bucket ... 





 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 

I saw an identical car with working ac etc here for $2500.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

We do not have rust here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, but comming from where you live it was probably a rust bucket ... 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 
 
 I saw an identical car with working ac etc here for $2500.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Richard Hattaway]

I made it too subtle... 





 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 

We do not have rust here.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 31, 2013, at 9:25 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, but comming from where you live it was probably a rust bucket ... 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 
 
 I saw an identical car with working ac etc here for $2500.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sold!
 
 I actually sold it to another guy from Germany who is visiting this week.
 So it goes from a German working in the US to a German in Germany.  Its
 going back home to Stuttgart.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

[Hendrik and Fay]

No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who 
harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz.


Hendrik
who is ageing

On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

You should talk.  Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:


Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing.
Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there
any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a
perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and dings.
And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the
steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if it's
  as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD.
Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour.

Hendrik
who is trolling along





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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Fmiser]

 Jaime wrote:
 
 Wow... you guys are cruel.
 
 I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that
 someone here might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to
 deceive any of you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a
 craigslist poster.
 
 This is really a miserable group sometimes.

Yup.  We eat our young, sometimes.

However, is the list to blame?  You provided a craigslist link with
a very simple introduction. 
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:

I, for one, did not go back and see what else you may have said
earlier.  So with no more reference than one I mentioned I took
it to be just another craigslist ad.  So why did you expect the
list to treat it any different than any other posted ad?

Now, if you said, I know this to be a good car. or I know the
seller and the car. then I think you could have reason to
complain.  As it is, it seems to me to be too late to be
complaining.

--   Philip, who eats nails - and _likes_ it.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Dan Penoff]

Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover will take it off with minimal effort. 
I've done it more times than I care to recall. I really hate those things

Dan

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 
 
 Yep.  'Looks good.  Hmm.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 
 
 I'm with Dimitri...
 
 and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows 
 anything.
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except for 
 the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow... you guys are cruel.
 
 I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
 might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
 looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.
 
 This is really a miserable group sometimes.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... 
 I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[WILTON]

'Needs to be lost completely.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



youse guys, but it's getting pretty rare


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


But, do they say y'all or youse guys?   ;)

Wilton

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 True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland.


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On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
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 Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I

would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less
sun
damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

Mike
On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of

the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any 
price...

I'm
spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


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wrote:

 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda

place!


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 Hi all,

Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[WILTON]

I hate 'em, too; hate the big hole under them even more.

Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 5:56 AM
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Liberal amounts of 3M Adhesive Remover will take it off with minimal 
effort. I've done it more times than I care to recall. I really hate those 
things


Dan

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar?

Wilton

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Yep.  'Looks good.  Hmm.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



I'm with Dimitri...

and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows 
anything.



On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except 
for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)


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Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone 
here
might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, 
or

looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

Jaime



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Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics 
of the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any 
price... I'm

spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
wrote:


mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my 
kinda

place!


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jaime...@gmail.com

wrote:



Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Curt Raymond]

Cruel would be suggesting it was a POS. I was merely offering suggestions to 
help them sell their car. 

-Curt

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:16:42 -0400
From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
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Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Please be considerate.  Those extra vowels are sucking up precious
bandwidth.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who
 harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz.

 Hendrik
 who is ageing

 On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 You should talk.  Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u.


 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing.
 Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there
 any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a
 perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and
 dings.
 And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the
 steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if
 it's
   as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD.
 Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour.

 Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

[Rich Thomas]

They should donate them to the Balkans.

--R


On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Please be considerate.  Those extra vowels are sucking up precious
bandwidth.

On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:


No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who
harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz.

Hendrik
who is ageing

On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:


You should talk.  Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u.


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice English people

[Andrew Strasfogel]

That would be fun to see.  All those vowel-less words peppered with
strategically inserted us


On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 They should donate them to the Balkans.

 --R



 On 8/29/13 1:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 Please be considerate.  Those extra vowels are sucking up precious
 bandwidth.

 On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 No, looks fine to me, your flavour of colour is an offence to those who
 harbour a secret love for her royal highness Liz.

 Hendrik
 who is ageing

 On 29/08/13 13:39, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 You should talk.  Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u.


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[MBZ] 300SD available

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Rich Thomas]

That's just like the Mamabenz except the interior is a lighter color.  
Looks a bit nicer though, and about 1/3 the miles.


--R


On 8/28/13 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime






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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Gary Hurst]

mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda place!


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

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 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Curt Raymond]

Do they actually want somebody to buy it or are they just fishing for price?

That ad is uninspiring. Theres not enough text on whats good about the car and 
not enough pictures. Craigslist lets you post 6 pics and you could always link 
to a photobucket or other folder with more. More pictures shows you (they) have 
nothing to hide. I find the lack of engine pics disturbing.

I also seem to remember you mentioning that the AC doesn't work. I'd generally 
consider they fact that its not mentioned in the ad a red flag. If you're not 
telling me about that up front what else are you not telling me?

-Curt

Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:41:51 -0400
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Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[G Mann]

Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!


 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
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  Hi all,
  Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
  http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
  Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Michael Canfield]

Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun
damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

Mike
On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
  place!
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi all,
   Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
   http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
  
   Jaime
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Andrew Strasfogel]

This is the kind of pretty car where you want to owner to give you a list
of things that need to be done to make the car mechanically and
cosmetically perfect, i.e., in concours condition.



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

 Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
 would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun
 damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

 Mike
  On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
  salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price...
 I'm
  spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
  130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
   place!
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Hi all,
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[dseretakis]

True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
 would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun
 damage.  North Joyzee is another story.
 
 Mike
 On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[WILTON]

But, do they say y'all or youse guys?   ;)

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less 
sun

damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

Mike
On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of 
the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... 
I'm

spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
wrote:



mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
place!


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

wrote:



Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Lots of clean cars up here in Northern NJ.  Not everyone goes out and
drives behind salt trucks when it snows.  Wealthy owners often had several
cars which means most of them sat in the garage.

Jaime



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

 Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
 would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun
 damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

 Mike
 On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
  salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price...
 I'm
  spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
  130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
   place!
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
   
Jaime
   
   
   
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Jaime Kopchinski]

Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

Jaime



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

  mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
  place!
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Hi all,
   Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
   http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
  
   Jaime
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[dseretakis]

I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except for the 
tacky sunroof wind deflector:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow... you guys are cruel.
 
 I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
 might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
 looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.
 
 This is really a miserable group sometimes.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

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Haha! Good one:)

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On Aug 28, 2013, at 7:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But, do they say y'all or youse guys?   ;)
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available
 
 
 True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
 would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less sun
 damage.  North Joyzee is another story.
 
 Mike
 On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Jon Agne]

I'm with Dimitri...

and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows anything.


On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except for 
 the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Wow... you guys are cruel.
 
 I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
 might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
 looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.
 
 This is really a miserable group sometimes.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
 
 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
 
 Jaime
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[WILTON]

Yep.  'Looks good.  Hmm.

Wilton

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From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



I'm with Dimitri...

and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows 
anything.



On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except 
for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:


Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone 
here

might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

Jaime



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of 
the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price... 
I'm

spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
wrote:



mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
place!


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

wrote:



Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[WILTON]

Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar?

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



Yep.  'Looks good.  Hmm.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



I'm with Dimitri...

and the wind deflector is not an issue for a serious buyer who knows 
anything.



On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except 
for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone 
here

might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

Jaime



On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of 
the
salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any 
price... I'm

spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com 
wrote:



mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
place!


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com

wrote:



Hi all,
Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

Jaime



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice people

[Hendrik and Fay]

Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing.
Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there 
any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a 
perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and dings.
And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the 
steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if 
it's  as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD.

Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour.

Hendrik
who is trolling along

On 29/08/13 09:46, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

Wow... you guys are cruel.

I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

This is really a miserable group sometimes.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available with sunnyroof

[Hendrik and Fay]

Ohh dear Milton didn't trim his post, looks like a banning is coming up, 
(insert funeral march http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyFyAqLtHq8
Anyway you'll have to give it a bit of paint after you weld up the 
sunroof, so if you do leave a scar whilst removing windy deflector, it 
should be no biggy.


Hendrik
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On 29/08/13 11:15, WILTON wrote:

Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar?

Wilton




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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Craig]

On Wed, 28 Aug 2013 20:33:07 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Aug 28, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
 wrote:

   Hi all,
   Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
   http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html
  Wow... you guys are cruel.
  
  I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone
  here might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of
  you, or looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.
  
  This is really a miserable group sometimes.
  
  Jaime

 I have your back here Jaime. I think it looks pretty nice! Well except
 for the tacky sunroof wind deflector:)

I think it's a nice car, too! Were I closer and employed, I would be
tempted.

Thank you for posting it, Jaime.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Michael Canfield]

No doubt.  One of the nicest cars I ever owned was a Volvo 240 that spent
it's life over a floor drain in a parking garage in Newark.  A lawyer's
second car.  Only spot of rust was a softball sized hole in the floor,
right over where the drain was.  I bought it true mileage unknown and later
found out the odometer had been changed at the factory because it was
faulty with 8 miles on the car.  The odometer read 24,*** miles when I got
it for a mere $2200.  A 25k mile Volvo might as well be new.

Mike
On Aug 28, 2013 8:12 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lots of clean cars up here in Northern NJ.  Not everyone goes out and
 drives behind salt trucks when it snows.  Wealthy owners often had several
 cars which means most of them sat in the garage.

 Jaime



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  Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
  would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less
 sun
  damage.  North Joyzee is another story.
 
  Mike
  On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of
 the
   salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price...
  I'm
   spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..
  
   130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
place!
   
   
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 jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:
   
 Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

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On Aug 28, 2013 6:45 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Wonder if I can get that deflector off without leaving a scar?



Depends.  Is it held on by glue or screws?  I've seen both.  Glue more
often, though.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Gary Hurst]

youse guys, but it's getting pretty rare


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 But, do they say y'all or youse guys?   ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 7:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD available



  True southern Joisey is almost into Maryland.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Actually I have bought cars that spent their life in Southern NJ and I
 would dare to say that many are just as rust free as AZ cars with less
 sun
 damage.  North Joyzee is another story.

 Mike
 On Aug 28, 2013 12:54 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Neu Joesey... Rust belt car... pretty on the outside.. I want pics of
 the
 salt rust damage on the bottom and at the wheel wells.. at any price...
 I'm
 spoiled by the rust free cars here in Arizona..

 130K miles.. hmmm..  and I trust that because?


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 wrote:

  mahwah , home of the jackson whites and gateway to airmont.  my kinda
 place!


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 wrote:


  Hi all,
 Here is the ad for the 300SD I mentioned in the past:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.**org/cto/4028189435.htmlhttp://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4028189435.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available to nice people

[Andrew Strasfogel]

You should talk.  Colour looks a bit funny with the superfluous u.


On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ahh come on Jaime you been here long enough to expect this sort of thing.
 Sure the comments where a tad harsh but the base question was, is there
 any rust. We have seen plenty of ads where the seller goes on about a
 perfect body and further investigation reveals, rust, scratches and dings.
 And whilst we are critiquing, me no likey those headlights and the
 steering wheel ain't straight. However it is a nice looking car and if it's
  as described a good buy for a low mile 300SD.
 Although it may be the lighting but the seats look a funny colour.

 Hendrik
 who is trolling along

 On 29/08/13 09:46, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

 Wow... you guys are cruel.

 I'm passing this along as an honest car I can vouch for that someone here
 might be interested in.  I wasn't attempting to deceive any of you, or
 looking for a critique of his skills as a craigslist poster.

 This is really a miserable group sometimes.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD available

[Dieselhead]

youse guys, but it's getting pretty rare


Oh yeah!  the fat guy on a bike in florida is the expert on all 
things.  perhaps the Jab forgets we know who he is.


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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Rich Thomas]

Well now the mech tells her that he has poked around and it has 
confounded him.  He found that the glow plug relay stays on for some 
period after the car starts, which he somehow thinks is causing the 
battery to run down.  Some mention was made of a red wire coming from a 
box going to short, but I am not sure which red wire or box. The girl 
was going to find out, and take the car to the Benz shop next door.


It is clear the guy is not familiar with the car, guess I can't blame 
him.  The GPR is fairly new as are the glow plugs, so I doubt if that is 
the problem.  And even if it does stay on awhile that would not drain 
the battery, unless it is stuck even with the key off, somehow.


She says the light comes on, so that should be OK -- in any case I don't 
think that would drain the battery.


I gotta get this other car sorted and get it up to her and get this one 
back.


--R


On 8/8/13 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:



I don't know the year/model but these alternators have only two connections:
One or two heavy wires that go to the battery + terminal (maybe via the
starter or a junction block) and a smaller wire for the idiot light.  In
some models the alternator needs a trickle of current through the idiot
light to get the alternator started.  In other words, if the charge idiot
light doesn't come on with the key in run the alternator may not charge.  So
I'd first insure that light comes on when the key is first turned to on or
glow (assuming a charged battery).

Going that, you probably need a real mechanic unless daughter unit fancies
herself to be one.  By the way, almost any FLAPS will test the alternator in
or out of the car.

Scott

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment.  I might
send her there.

She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so
that is why I told her to go back there.  I'm thinking that might not have
been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or connection or short or
something.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

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You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but
it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise.

Look for an independent Benz mechanic.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Michael Canfield]

You need to get it away from that mechanic before he has your harness
cut, spliced and f'ed up.  He has no clue what he is doing.  The glow plugs
should do that.  They have in every one I have owned.

Garages these days!  Can't even find one around here that can balance tires
right.  Literally, weights fell off the last time.

Mike
On Aug 9, 2013 10:12 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

 Well now the mech tells her that he has poked around and it has confounded
 him.  He found that the glow plug relay stays on for some period after the
 car starts, which he somehow thinks is causing the battery to run down.
  Some mention was made of a red wire coming from a box going to short, but
 I am not sure which red wire or box. The girl was going to find out, and
 take the car to the Benz shop next door.

 It is clear the guy is not familiar with the car, guess I can't blame him.
  The GPR is fairly new as are the glow plugs, so I doubt if that is the
 problem.  And even if it does stay on awhile that would not drain the
 battery, unless it is stuck even with the key off, somehow.

 She says the light comes on, so that should be OK -- in any case I don't
 think that would drain the battery.

 I gotta get this other car sorted and get it up to her and get this one
 back.

 --R


 On 8/8/13 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:



 I don't know the year/model but these alternators have only two
 connections:
 One or two heavy wires that go to the battery + terminal (maybe via the
 starter or a junction block) and a smaller wire for the idiot light.  In
 some models the alternator needs a trickle of current through the idiot
 light to get the alternator started.  In other words, if the charge
 idiot
 light doesn't come on with the key in run the alternator may not charge.
  So
 I'd first insure that light comes on when the key is first turned to on or
 glow (assuming a charged battery).

 Going that, you probably need a real mechanic unless daughter unit fancies
 herself to be one.  By the way, almost any FLAPS will test the alternator
 in
 or out of the car.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes 
 [mailto:mercedes-bounces@**okiebenz.commercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Rich
 Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:50 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

 Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment.  I
 might
 send her there.

 She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so
 that is why I told her to go back there.  I'm thinking that might not have
 been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or connection or short or
 something.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

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 You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but
 it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise.

 Look for an independent Benz mechanic.

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

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It is normal for newer (pencil-style) glow plugs to stay on for a couple
minutes after engine start.  This produces smoother and cleaner idle until
the engine warms up.  On older cars (like my 82)the alternator isn't big
enough to supply all the load for those few minutes so some battery
discharge occurs but it is quickly recharged in a mile or two.  But it is
quite possible for the glow logic to stick or fail, which would drain the
battery even with a good alternator.  A couple voltage checks at the battery
would be in order.  Like I mentioned, a free quick check at Autozone,
Advanced, Pep, etc.  will tell you if the alternator and battery are working
right.  They have a cart they wheel out to your car and it only takes 10
minutes if they aren't busy.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:12 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

Well now the mech tells her that he has poked around and it has 
confounded him.  He found that the glow plug relay stays on for some 
period after the car starts, which he somehow thinks is causing the 
battery to run down.  Some mention was made of a red wire coming from a 
box going to short, but I am not sure which red wire or box. The girl 
was going to find out, and take the car to the Benz shop next door.

It is clear the guy is not familiar with the car, guess I can't blame 
him.  The GPR is fairly new as are the glow plugs, so I doubt if that is 
the problem.  And even if it does stay on awhile that would not drain 
the battery, unless it is stuck even with the key off, somehow.

She says the light comes on, so that should be OK -- in any case I don't 
think that would drain the battery.

I gotta get this other car sorted and get it up to her and get this one 
back.

--R


On 8/8/13 9:34 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:


 I don't know the year/model but these alternators have only two
connections:
 One or two heavy wires that go to the battery + terminal (maybe via the
 starter or a junction block) and a smaller wire for the idiot light.  In
 some models the alternator needs a trickle of current through the idiot
 light to get the alternator started.  In other words, if the charge
idiot
 light doesn't come on with the key in run the alternator may not charge.
So
 I'd first insure that light comes on when the key is first turned to on or
 glow (assuming a charged battery).

 Going that, you probably need a real mechanic unless daughter unit fancies
 herself to be one.  By the way, almost any FLAPS will test the alternator
in
 or out of the car.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
 Thomas
 Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:50 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

 Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment.  I
might
 send her there.

 She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so
 that is why I told her to go back there.  I'm thinking that might not have
 been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or connection or short or
 something.

 --R (sent from my miniPad)

 On Aug 7, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but
 it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise.

 Look for an independent Benz mechanic.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Peter Frederick]

I had the glow plug relay in my Volvo TD stick, and it would run the  
battery down while driving with the headlights on!  They draw 80 amps,  
as a rule, and that's a BIG drain on the alternator.


Benz shop is the place to take it.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Scott Ritchey]

I don't know the year/model but these alternators have only two connections:
One or two heavy wires that go to the battery + terminal (maybe via the
starter or a junction block) and a smaller wire for the idiot light.  In
some models the alternator needs a trickle of current through the idiot
light to get the alternator started.  In other words, if the charge idiot
light doesn't come on with the key in run the alternator may not charge.  So
I'd first insure that light comes on when the key is first turned to on or
glow (assuming a charged battery).

Going that, you probably need a real mechanic unless daughter unit fancies
herself to be one.  By the way, almost any FLAPS will test the alternator in
or out of the car.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment.  I might
send her there.

She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so
that is why I told her to go back there.  I'm thinking that might not have
been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or connection or short or
something.

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Aug 7, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but
it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise.

Look for an independent Benz mechanic.

Peter

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[MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Rich Thomas]

The daughter unit is using the Mamabenz for awhile.  A coupla weeks ago 
the battery went dead.  She gets it to the shop she uses, he says the 
alternator is bad, sends it to the alternator shop.  I told them to just 
replace the regulator, which they did, A-OK.  They also swapped in a new 
Interstate battery at no cost, which was not very old, said it was 
showing low ooomf.  Good enough.


So a coupla days ago, battery is dead, no starty.  She gets a jump, runs 
fine no problem, starts a few times OK then battery goes dead again.  
Gets it back to her shop, they send it to the alt shop who say after 
some fooling around that there is one wire from the alternator, which if 
they remove it from the 4-wire box everything is fine.  But they do not 
go further to see why that wire is a problem.  They send it back to the 
mech who says he will try to trace it and figure out what is wrong.  He 
would try to find a wiring diagram.


I told the girl to find out which wire from which box is bad, i.e., what 
color wire.  If I can find the wiring diagram on the 126 CD somewhere I 
can try to figure out where it is going, and go out and look at the 
other SD and see what it might be.  Problem is I can't find a wiring 
diagram on the CD -- I am guessing there should be one on there, right?  
I found a junction box chapter (54-110) but no schematic.


Anyone have ideas re: The Wire and The Schematic?

--R



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Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

[Rich Thomas]

I found the wiring diagrams hidden in ETM (an incredibly intuitive 
location) named 126td83-85.pdf which might or might not assist.


I am not sure what the guy meant by 4 wires coming from a box, it must 
not be the alternator circuit as there are only 3 wires shown.


--R

On 8/7/13 4:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
The daughter unit is using the Mamabenz for awhile.  A coupla weeks 
ago the battery went dead.  She gets it to the shop she uses, he says 
the alternator is bad, sends it to the alternator shop.  I told them 
to just replace the regulator, which they did, A-OK.  They also 
swapped in a new Interstate battery at no cost, which was not very 
old, said it was showing low ooomf. Good enough.


So a coupla days ago, battery is dead, no starty.  She gets a jump, 
runs fine no problem, starts a few times OK then battery goes dead 
again.  Gets it back to her shop, they send it to the alt shop who say 
after some fooling around that there is one wire from the alternator, 
which if they remove it from the 4-wire box everything is fine.  But 
they do not go further to see why that wire is a problem.  They send 
it back to the mech who says he will try to trace it and figure out 
what is wrong.  He would try to find a wiring diagram.


I told the girl to find out which wire from which box is bad, i.e., 
what color wire.  If I can find the wiring diagram on the 126 CD 
somewhere I can try to figure out where it is going, and go out and 
look at the other SD and see what it might be.  Problem is I can't 
find a wiring diagram on the CD -- I am guessing there should be one 
on there, right?  I found a junction box chapter (54-110) but no 
schematic.


Anyone have ideas re: The Wire and The Schematic?

--R



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