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2021-02-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 16:00:26 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > I also have this one for the mower and motorcycle. > > https://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201 > > I caught it on sale for $20. I did, too, and now regret I bought only two ... Craig

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
. https://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201 I caught it on sale for $20. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 16, 2021 9:12 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I guess I could get

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2021-02-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
://m.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201 I caught it on sale for $20. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: February 16, 2021 9:12 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I guess I could get another output

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I guess I could get another output for the Minder, I'm pretty sure it supports 2. Otherwise I want to keep the batteries fairly balanced. If I leave them on too long I'll forget and mess up the balance. -Curt On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 12:02:37 AM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

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2021-02-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
This is a photo of the LPG system on Big Bertha: http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/genset/genlpg.jpg Liquid feed from the forklift tank (striped hose) goes through a fuel filter and electrical shutoff valve combo and then directly, via copper, into the vaporizer. (Big round can, with

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2021-02-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sunspot 25 is starting, they're coming back! (Means skip will be increasing so I can radio my friends down under in the mornings and evenings). On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 8:38 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Actually it is caused by a bifurcation of the polar vortex

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2021-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 02:38:09 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Actually it is caused by a bifurcation of the polar vortex due to > sunspots or the lack thereof. Ocean currents, el niño, la niña and such > play a role too. Quoting a Ph.D. physicist from my other list (Gordon Fulks on his

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2021-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 19:48:33 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Well, with a completely serious and straight face, this cold weather is > due to [surprise!] GLOBAL WARMING (aka Climate Change)! > >

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2021-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 23:58:41 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > All the propane powered genny sets that I've read the specs on say they > require a liquid propane line, not the gas. Our generator south of Calhan, Colorado, used a 15 psi vapor regulator which then fed a demand regulator for the

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2021-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:14:43 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > At the end of the season I'll put them on the Minder for a week each. The longer you have them on the BatteryMINDer, the more they will be desulfated. You can leave them on indefinitely. Craig

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2021-02-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 14:21:45 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > An empty tank could hold air, which could support combustion. Also, air > (which won't condense) would screw-up the filling process. But purging > is not a big deal (or it wasn't in the old days) as the heavier LP gas >

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2021-02-15 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Yes that seems right Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 7:49 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, with a completely serious and straight face, this cold weather is due > to [surprise!] GLOBAL

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2021-02-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes that seems right Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Feb 15, 2021, 7:49 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, with a completely serious and straight face, this cold weather is due > to [surprise!] GLOBAL WARMING (aka Climate Change)! > > >

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2021-02-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well, with a completely serious and straight face, this cold weather is due to [surprise!] GLOBAL WARMING (aka Climate Change)! https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/blackouts-cascade-beyond-texas-in-deepening-power-crisis/ar-BB1dGFEu - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 4:13 PM

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2021-02-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
des On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:29 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard > > Seems like one thing I have run into with buying a tank of Craigslist or > Fakebook is it’s hard to

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
valves. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 12:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Peter Frederick Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Don't let the tank go completely empty either, as most suppliers will not fill

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 8:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Seems like one thing I have run into with buying a tank of Craigslist or Fakebook is it’s hard to tell if it’s

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2021-02-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I suspect there’s some truth to it. I say that because when we moved into the former homestead there was an outdoor kitchen with a gas oven that was supplied off a 100 pound tank on the side of the house. I contacted the supplier on the tank to come out and top it off. Apparently, it hadn’t

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2021-02-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have a 100gal tank only for my cooktop, so it will last a coupla years or more.  I ran it dry 2-3 yr ago and the delivery guy had to do some elaborate pressure test for a day or two and charged me like $50 for the privilege.  He said it was state code or something to make sure the system

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2021-02-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Don't let the tank go completely empty either, as most suppliers will not fill it without a leak check -- for obvious reasons. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

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2021-02-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
When we got our first delivery of propane here, we were told (doesn't mean it's true) that state law requires a propane company to inspect the entire system before dispensing propane. This is a one time thing with each supplier you use. They started at the tank, checked for leaks with an

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2021-02-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
February 14, 2021 9:08 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Kaleb Striplin >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard >> >> More shop propane questions. I am not sure what the PO of Okie acres did, i >> see no evidence of a big propane tank being installed on the pro

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2021-02-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Boy, is this thread busy! Let me try and bring some things together… Your heaters and nearly all generator applications will run off of propane vapor. Typically 7”-11” of water column for generators, which is equal to about 4-6 PSI. Heaters will work off of a lower pressure in most cases. Some

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
s Discussion List > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard > > More shop propane questions. I am not sure what the PO of Okie acres did, i > see no evidence of a big propane tank being installed on the property. There > is a gas line connection at the back of the s

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2021-02-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> once it gets down to a certain point there wont be enough pressure to run > whatever heater you are trying to run. Vapor feed is tricky. It can be a real issue when deep-frying turkeys outside. I usually bring the BBQ tank in overnight, that seems to cure the problem. As the propane in the

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2021-02-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I need to shut [the pilot] off when I'm not out there, you can probably boil > water on it. On my old camper I usually only ran the pilot on the water heater. After some hours (and certainly overnight) the water was plenty hot enough just on that. -- Jim

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
You will always have one (or maybe two) pressure regulators between tank and appliance. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 9:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Out here

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard More shop propane questions. I am not sure what the PO of Okie acres did, i see no evidence of a big propane tank being installed on the property. There is a gas line connection at the back of the shop and I suspect maybe they used those 100lb

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard More shop propane questions. I am not sure what the PO of Okie acres did, i see no evidence of a big propane tank being installed on the property. There is a gas line connection at the back of the shop and I suspect maybe they used those 100lb tanks and just

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
: Sunday, February 14, 2021 8:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I'm debating what to put in the farmhouse. I'd like to go propane but not sure that the copper pipes I'm used to still meet code. My parents house has a copper line but that was put in back

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
To: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes Cc: Allan Streib Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > The tank needs to absorb enough heat from the environment to "boil > off" LP gas as you use it. Is there some way to use the waste heat from the generator engine to heat

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2021-02-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
All the propane powered genny sets that I've read the specs on say they require a liquid propane line, not the gas. That solves the evaporation cooling problem, and delivers more BTU to the genny engine, though they are still very thirsty, as propane has a fraction (I should know but don't

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2021-02-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Propane tanks all use pressure regulators, regardless of the tank size, and delivery pressure is regulated to, I believe something like 11 inches of water column , or some arcane unit of measure. Anyway try a look at this for more answers than I have.

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep, connection point is about 4ft off the ground. On 2/14/2021 9:44 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: You are probably correct. I would guess 100# tanks would work if you have a hookup about four foot off the ground -- that's the usual height I think. Usually in pairs if I remember

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2021-02-14 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
You are probably correct. I would guess 100# tanks would work if you have a hookup about four foot off the ground -- that's the usual height I think. Usually in pairs if I remember correctly, they used to be pretty common around here for gas stoves when the house had oil or wood heat. Those

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
; > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> > Cc: Kaleb Striplin mailto:ka...@striplin.net>> > Subject: R

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Interesting, I should ask about that the next time I get one filled. I'd like to get a couple for camp, it'd be nice to be able to go 2 weeks on a fill. I'd still keep 20# tanks around since they can be exchanged its handy if somebody says "What can I pay for?" you just send them to the

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2021-02-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> A forklift tank would work too but I don't know where you'd get one filled. I have three for Big Bertha. I get them filled the same places I get BBQ tanks filled. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
art) gasoline generator should do >> the job much cheaper.  The plug-in output cord can be wired to a power panel >> with a mechanical interlock fairly inexpensively (if code allows).  The main >> drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it fresh. >>

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its the torpedo heater though, those really slurp down the propane. I suspect a generator of significant size would have the same problem. A 100# would work better but of course would be decidedly not handy. A forklift tank would work too but I don't know where you'd get one filled. All the

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
boil off" LP gas as you use it. > > Preferably, locate the generator so the engine exhaust will blow away from > the house. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:37 PM >

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some years ago I had a spreadsheet that would compare various fuel sources. I remember one year when oil was high and I didn't have good wood supply that electric was the way to go. I also remember one year in the polar vortex where I was really glad I'd laid in a good wood supply. I buy my

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
should do > > the job much cheaper. The plug-in output cord can be wired to a power > > panel with a mechanical interlock fairly inexpensively (if code allows). > > The main drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it > > fresh. > &

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2021-02-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Curt Raymond writes: > For cooking/heating use I don't think tank size is a problem until you > get down to the BBQ (20#) tank size. I remember reading that at -20F a > BBQ tank wouldn't produce enough vapor pressure to run a stove but I > suppose that depends on what stove. I have a propane

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2021-02-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Most definitely cut down on the heat pump useable but by the time you pay for > firewood I don’t think it would be any cheaper. If you have to buy firewood it's not cost-effective. I've never paid for any, but there's certainly a labor component involved. -- Jim

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2021-02-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off propane, and > also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. Maybe even replace the > stove/oven with propane instead of electric Co-generation is nice. Use the waste heat from the genny to heat the shop. When Big

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
For cooking/heating use I don't think tank size is a problem until you get down to the BBQ (20#) tank size. I remember reading that at -20F a BBQ tank wouldn't produce enough vapor pressure to run a stove but I suppose that depends on what stove. Even in northern Maine a lot of folks use 100#

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2021-02-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > The tank needs to absorb enough heat from the environment to "boil > off" LP gas as you use it. Is there some way to use the waste heat from the generator engine to heat the LP tank? You probably wouldn't need to do it in the summer though. Allan

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2021-02-14 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I have a thousand gallon propane tank in the back yard I use to fuel the furnace in the pole barn. When my parents built the house in 1956 propane and fuel oil were the two choices, no natural gas line. When the local utility put in natural gas in the 80's Mom got tapped in and converted the

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I would like to get a whole home backup generator and run it off propane, and also run a line out to the shop for the heaters there. Maybe ev

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2021-02-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
ly, locate the generator so the engine exhaust will blow away from the house. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 6:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I would like to get a

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
xpensively (if code allows).  The main > drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it fresh. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Pe

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front cost, though, if you do it right. -D > On

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2021-02-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Geez, I wish we had 12". We've gotten maybe that much this year total and its all been fluffy light stuff, hardly worth grooming. We've been out twice this year though. I'm training a new guy which is fun for me. I think the other groomer operators like having me do the training. They're both

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2021-02-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
trucks and personnel are a large part of the cost of selling residential LP. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 7:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard I need to do the same

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2021-02-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
ing gasoline and keeping it > fresh. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM > > To: Okie Benz > > Cc: Dan Penoff > > Subject: Re: [MB

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
sage- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM > To: Okie Benz > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard > > It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front > cost, though, if y

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2021-02-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
inexpensively (if code allows). The main drawback of this setup, IMO, is storing gasoline and keeping it fresh. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 4:27 PM To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard It does

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2021-02-14 Thread greg via Mercedes
We've had more snow than I can remember for here, about 12" accumulation. There are lots of power outages just south of here, freezing rain has taken down trees. I'm lucky power has not been interrupted here, I should have an emergency supply of wood for the stove. Greg in the PNW > Blizzard is

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2021-02-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I think at the time there were only 1 or 2 ties outside of Texas and that wasn’t enough. That changed after that incident I believe. Texas has plenty of gas to drive gas turbines but it takes time and maybe there wasn’t enough to offset the loss of those wind resources. --R Sent from iPhone

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2021-02-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
heet. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2021 5:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Buggered Benzmail Subject: Re: [MBZ] Blizzard Some years ago the wind in West Texas just died on New Years Day (I think it was)

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2021-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There are ties through the national grid, believe me. However, some of those are little used, which is the problem. The utilities have a spot market for demand, and it’s based on what time of the day and for how much. Middle of the day in the summertime? Oh, yea, spot prices will be wild. But -

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2021-02-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Some years ago the wind in West Texas just died on New Years Day (I think it was). It was really cold and power demand was high. All the wind machines (and there were lots) stopped producing and that was a Big Problem as Texas was pretty much stand-alone as far as ties into other power grids.

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2021-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It does make life far easier and less likely to be interrupted. Big up front cost, though, if you do it right. -D > On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one of > these day. > > Sent

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Being that we are total electric here, I should get a backup generator one of these day. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2021, at 3:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my annual > fill for the standby generator… > >

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2021-02-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Texas is facing the possibility of blackouts as power demand ramps up with the cold weather. Apparently wind farms can't operate in icing conditions. Who knew? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-14/deep-freeze-sends-gas-soaring-to-600-over-the-long-u-s-weekend Forecast here is for

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2021-02-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That reminds me, it’s about time to check the propane tank for my annual fill for the standby generator… -D shoveling sun and a little bit of rain today in the near 80s > On Feb 14, 2021, at 4:12 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with

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2021-02-14 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Blizzard is proceeding, temp is 7 outside with wind chill is -10, snow blowing outside. Heat pump pretty much runs non stop. Over the last 30 minutes the power has been going out off and on. No good. I may end up having to haul in some firewood and firing up the fireplace/insert. It would Most

Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD!!!! AHHH!!

2013-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
I assume he is tough as nails too. Did you note that he has taken off the padded seat on the sled and rides it sitting on the cold hard body of the machine! Randy On 09/02/2013 8:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Sir, You are a true connoisseur of old iron. Wankel panther, 240D, IHC M, Snappers, Cub

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2013-02-11 Thread Michael Canfield
Your knee goes where the seat was and Carharts keep it warm...lol Mike On Feb 11, 2013 10:57 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I assume he is tough as nails too. Did you note that he has taken off the padded seat on the sled and rides it sitting on the cold hard body of the

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2013-02-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/02/2013 8:00 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: 1971 Arctic Cat Panther 303W, powered by a Sachs 303cc Wankel Rotary engine. About 19hp, 2 stroke, single rotor. Not a real high top speed, I had it up to maybe 20 today, it might make 40, but its real smooth and has lots of torque, a real good

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2013-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond
, the padded seat was full of water and frozen hard as a rock! -Curt Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:57:10 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Message-ID: 511914d6.1060...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text

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2013-02-11 Thread WILTON
curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Standing Randy, I was standing... I'd just replaced the main gas line and had to have the seat off for that. You don't sit in deep powder snow anyway, you stand

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2013-02-11 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Message-ID: 51192cb0.6070...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 09/02/2013 8:00 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: 1971 Arctic Cat Panther 303W, powered by a Sachs 303cc Wankel Rotary engine. About 19hp, 2 stroke

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2013-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
was an extremely tender American and that was one VERY TOUGH Greenlander. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Standing Randy, I

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2013-02-11 Thread WILTON
Thanks. Acclimation or getting used to it, yes, but physics is physics. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH

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2013-02-11 Thread WILTON
and simply endured it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! You write well. I think the answer is that you get

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2013-02-10 Thread Jon Agne
No the new ones are much better and easier to usenot to mention safer, BUT you will pay for them. I think I paid $200 in 1985 for mine (BTW, it's a 1971, not 69), and it cost about $235 brand new in 1971 which is about $1300 in today's dollars. Every time I take mine in for

Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD!!!! Memories...

2013-02-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Kevin, I do some work with JAWS, as the son of some friends is visually impaired (almost totally blind since birth.) Every time Lawrence gets a new computer I have to go over and set JAWS up for him. It's a pretty amazing piece of software and really does a good job. As an aside, Lawrence

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2013-02-10 Thread Max Dillon
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Message-ID: a0624080dcd3cb23899d7@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Sir, You are a true connoisseur of old iron. Wankel panther

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2013-02-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Mechanized snow machinery is always authorized in the household budget. You would have thought so: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/Mog/blowerload.jpg -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

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2013-02-10 Thread Dieselhead
Mechanized snow machinery is always authorized in the household budget, unless there is a Unimog or tractor, or pickup involved. You would have thought so: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/Mog/blowerload.jpg -- Jim How's that for an edit?

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2013-02-10 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/Mog/blowerload.jpg http://bringatrailer.com/2009/02/15/1968-mercedes-benz-unimog-snow-blower/ -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

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2013-02-10 Thread Max Dillon
My favorite comment: would be great in a zombie attack situation. Aye! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: http://bringatrailer.com/2009/02/15/1968-mercedes-benz-unimog-snow-blower/

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2013-02-10 Thread OK Don
Ah, but don't discount the difference the driver makes! I routinely drove away from 4WD Jeeps and trucks on the ice at stop signs in OKC in my first FWD car - the '74 Saab Sonnett. It was very light, but capable in the slippery stuff. Then again, I never had much trouble with the V8 MGA either.

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2013-02-10 Thread WILTON
tires) for 4 years in MI UP; no snow tires on truck in Greenland, either - just several sand bags in cargo bed. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD

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2013-02-09 Thread Jim Cathey
You have got to be joking. Mine tries to kill me. Even with 150lbs of sand in the trunk... Maybe the snow tires really make a difference. Dude, you would not believe it. I'm fond of Nokian. Hakka 1's on the Frankenheap. -- Jim ___

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2013-02-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Maybe the snow tires really make a difference. Quebec claims a major decrease in winter crashes since they mandated snow tires. I wonder if the gains will hold after all those brand new snow tires get worn down to the new legal limit. Mitch.

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2013-02-09 Thread Gerry Archer
This has to do with the hearing impaired. Will your synthesized speech program quickly turn ordinary speech into synthesized speech? If so, what is the name of the program? Thanks, Gerry From: Kevin Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.com I'd be amazed if you could type a whole email in accent

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2013-02-09 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its true. For the most part, peoples cars aren't bad in the snow, their tires are. All seasons can't compare to dedicated winter tires. Our S600 and CL600 at work does great in the snow with a fresh set of winter tires. I've driven them in some pretty bad conditions. Jaime On Fri, Feb 8,

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2013-02-09 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Looks like we did well in this storm... well over a foot outside and no evidence of any wind damage. Overall, the forecasters did a good job with this one, the NOAA maps were predicting 12-13 inches for us. This is our first good snow fall in two years. I'm a little disappointed they plowed our

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2013-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond
the pedal, but that means in the snow I've got that much more space to module the pedal... -Curt Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:55:52 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com,mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD

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2013-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond
The term is in dialect, Mark Twain did it for both Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. -Curt Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:21:55 -0600 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD Memories... Message-ID: 5115cee3.2010...@gulseth.net

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2013-02-09 Thread Curt Raymond
your car off the road and you can be charged storage until you can get it in the spring. -Curt Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 23:24:25 -0800 From: Kevin Kraly kevinpadd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD Memories... Message-ID

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2013-02-09 Thread Rich Thomas
wicket pissah! --R On 2/9/13 2:24 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: I'd be amazed if you could type a whole email in accent And the accent is even more entertaining when spoken by my computer's synthesized speech! Hopefully, nawt to many cahs ah snowed ovah along the streets neah Hahvahd Squayah

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2013-02-09 Thread dseretakis
that much more space to module the pedal... -Curt Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:55:52 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com,mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! Message-ID: m162229m47

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2013-02-09 Thread Peter Frederick
I can attest to the poor snow and ice performance with a turbodiesel of any type and the 220D, for similar reasons. The 220D auto has a fluid coupling with fixed slip, so it transmits too much torque to the rear wheels. A turbo typically spins up and adds power without direct control by

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2013-02-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I wasn't expecting good snow performance as I had been used to driving my 220D automatic and a 450 and 560SEL which were not the best. My winter car is a 200D manual. For a short period my wife was driving the 450SL. Both riding on Hakkas, and both are/were pretty darned good in the snow. In

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2013-02-09 Thread WILTON
-And driver attitude. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] BLIZZARD AHHH!! I wasn't expecting good snow performance as I had been

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2013-02-09 Thread Dieselhead
I can attest to the poor snow and ice performance with a turbodiesel of any type and the 220D, for similar reasons. The 220D auto has a fluid coupling with fixed slip, so it transmits too much torque to the rear wheels. A turbo typically spins up and adds power without direct control by the

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