Re: [MBZ] Wilton?

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:02:12 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > BTW, that's CIDP - chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy. Sorry for the transposition. > Enjoyed short phone conversation with Craig. Thanks, Craig. You are welcome! > Yep, I'll even see if

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is a MB only part. try northlake. Kyle Arola via Mercedes January 1, 2017 at 11:07 AM Yes! Alive and working on the car! Rebuilt my mono valve using the MB tube, and the MTC rubber, and I have excellent heat again! This was before the thread about buying

Re: [MBZ] How to remedy my heating problem - W123 300TDt

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Fmiser sez: ‎... trims _181_ lines off the end of the email and replies, Rick wrote: You counted? I'm impressed. I'm too lazy to count myself. But I compose/edit my email in emacs, and emacs shows me line numbers. The process was simply to delete the real content, jump to the end, read

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Fred wrote: The cold resistance of GP's is very low and inexpensive meters may not be able to discriminate between 0.0 ohms and 0.8 ohms (or there abouts). This is why I so prefer using an ammeter. It is so much more accurate - and it tests the source voltage, the wiring connections, and

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
The Plug was disconnected from the Relay when I tested Resistance between the 5 socket plug and engine ground. Thx! On 01/01/2017 12:52 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Depends on if you had the plug connected to the relay or not. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: OK, Have been thinking (always a

Re: [MBZ] This List and Email Programs

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And it makes searching for the wisdom of the list easier. Fewer false positives. OK Don via Mercedes January 1, 2017 at 5:34 PM I agree, plus it keeps all our missives in one place, separated from the other massive amounts of email. On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 5:32

Re: [MBZ] Welding on W124 Diesel

2017-01-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
No -124's are too new for him. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4 matic Wickford RI On Jan 2, 2017 4:00 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: > Dimitri the welding guru will know for sure. I think all you need to do > is unhook the battery. > > Larry Turner via

Re: [MBZ] Welding on W124 Diesel

2017-01-02 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I agree. Just unhook the battery. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dimitri the welding guru will know for sure. I think all you need to do is > unhook the battery. > >> Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Welding on W124 Diesel

2017-01-02 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Almost too new. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > No -124's are too new for him. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 2005 E320 4 matic > Wickford RI > > On Jan 2, 2017 4:00 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
*Please clarify the comments in red below. Are you talking about the plug that attaches to the 5 prongs of the Relay and provides power to each GP?If so, I checked each 'socket' and it returned 0.0 ohms. Is that telling me all 5 plugs are grounded either in the GP or the wiring?*

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hey Curley, This is a very definitive troubleshooting guide. It's a keeper. What do you think about me testing my old GPs with a old Battery? Actually I have 3 old 12v batteries not being used so any of them could be used. My biggest concern is this test would make a GP glow red

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Fred, Reading your post it sounds like you are implying if I disconnect the GP plug from the relay and the Fuse doesn't blow, does that mean the relay is OK? Larry On 12/30/2016 8:32 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Larry. In the GP relay there are two plugs, one for control and the

Re: [MBZ] 80A Fuse

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
This is similar to a previous question - based on the below it sounds like I can test the relay by removing the plug going to the GPs and seeing if another fuse blows, right? Thanks! On 12/30/2016 6:55 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: And with all the glow plugs disconnected from the relay,

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Nope, Feb 3, 1959 is the day the music died. look it up on the wickedpedia Did you ever hear american pie? Fred Moir via Mercedes January 1, 2017 at 10:56 AM Nope! The music died in 2016. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yes, He gets in the Star on occasion. Rick Knoble via Mercedes December 31, 2016 at 10:36 PM This guy drools all over himself over old Mercedes as bad as we do Located in Titusville. ‎http://www.pierrehedaryandco.com/about/

Re: [MBZ] Welding on W124 Diesel

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Dimitri the welding guru will know for sure. I think all you need to do is unhook the battery. Larry Turner via Mercedes January 1, 2017 at 5:41 PM Anyone know if there are any restrictions on welding on W124 chassis? Some cars with electronic ignition have

Re: [MBZ] Welding on W124 Diesel

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks! Exactly what I needed to hear. LarryT On 01/02/2017 7:38 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote: I agree. Just unhook the battery. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 1, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Dimitri the welding guru will know for sure. I

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
No, don't need the instructions again,. I do need to find a Ammeter. I was hoping this problem would be behind me by now, but it looks like I'm going to need more troubleshooting tools. BTW, all of my GPs are a mix of Bosch and Beru. Since you said the Bosch are made in China I will go

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Try slightly turning the bulb holder in the socket and see if they kick in. The 210 seems to have trouble with the bulb holders losing contact. On 1/2/2017 1:41 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: The bulbs are good, Mr. Wisenheimer. Bob R On Jan 2, 2017 12:11 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Larry wrote: No, don't need the instructions again,. I do need to find a Ammeter. I was hoping this problem would be behind me by now, but it looks like I'm going to need more troubleshooting tools. I would like to find a solid, *easy test t**o determine **if a GP is good or bad*...

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > > I plan to take the intake manifold off (as soon as I get a > stubborn bolt out) and then I will inspect the wiring looking > for possible shorts. Curley wrote: ANY GP WIRES THAT ARE GROUNDED ON THE MANIFOLD (most common problem) WON'T SHOW THE FAULT WITH

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I know, that's why I said I wished I had 1/8".  At the very least it will limit the size of the junk they haul in. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 19:08:08 + (UTC) Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Sunroof drains are plugged.  Sunroof hose(s) leaking. Windshield seal is leaking. BTW, in a previous email you said you and Andrew tightened up the steering box so there is less slop in the steering wheel?   If so, that is pretty much a no no.  They are designed to be pretty loose, and adjusting

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>So i guess the reading would be the same >even if from the other end? Yes, if they are not disconnected from the glow plugs.  >3 - .1 > > 4 - .1 I would say those two are shorted to ground. What does your meter read with the test leads touching each other?  If they are grounded, they would

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1987 Mercedes 300td couple and sedan

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Might be interesting for the coupe. On 1/2/2017 2:59 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Not 1987 but a W123 coupe and a sedan for a spare. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: nore...@craigslist.org Sent: 02 January 2017 15:54

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That has been a problem since at least 1960. clean with emery cloth inside and out. then GREASE yer BUBS! You also need to be sure the SWITCH is WORKING! Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes January 2, 2017 at 2:03 PM Try slightly turning the bulb holder in the

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
What does the same meter read with the probes together? Is it 0.0?I don't know the idiosyncracies of your meter. each model is different and some variance within the same model would not be unusual. 1 and 5 are probably ok. I am concerned about 2, 3 and 4, all are too low. they could

Re: [MBZ] color red - was: HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Larry wrote: *Please clarify the comments in red below. Color is a feature of HTML email, and the list strips such junk off. accent the important parts with text characters - like spaces # or pound symbols ## or use == any == character that makes it stand out.

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The photo I posted is current, everything else is old. We've got about 2 inches of soft oatmeal snow which will probably be gone tomorrow or the next day... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:30 PM, tyee165 wrote: Are the photos on the green

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread MG via Mercedes
All the plugs seem to be good. So what was that series of number that you sent that had the Xs in it? copy below Plug that connects to the GP Relay 0.0 to 0.1 X 0.0 X X0.3 - 0.4 0.1X X 0.3 - 0.4 (where 'X' equals a

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread MG via Mercedes
If all that doesn't do it then check the switch on the transmission and the wire connections there. That is if the 210 has the same switch on the transmission as the 123. Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 13:11:10 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The bulbs are good, Mr. Wisenheimer. Bob R On Jan 2, 2017 12:11 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The bulbs > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The backup lights have

Re: [MBZ] Wilton?

2017-01-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Wilton, come up! Bob R On Jan 2, 2017 10:16 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Now that I think about it, I don't recalling seeing Wilton around lately. > Or did I just miss him? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
VW bulbs have that issue too, I've fought with both my cars. Lots of deoxit and bulb grease later and they're reliable... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Try slightly turning the bulb holder

[MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Front driver door seal is pretty toasted. Front window seal looks good and I don't think the sunroof pan leaks in that way, does it? Is this the most likely avenue for passive water to get in to the drivers floor pan? No holes underneath that I can find and all body plugs in place. I cannot find

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
So i guess the reading would be the same even if from the other end? Larry On 01/02/2017 1:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: They look good to me. You know you can check that at the harness end and the glow plug relay which is much easier Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2017, at

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 20:21:00 + (UTC) Curt Raymond wrote: > I know, that's why I said I wished I had 1/8".  At the very least it > will limit the size of the junk they haul in. Curt I know about the junk they haul in. I still have to remove the junk they hauled into the

[MBZ] Fw: 1987 Mercedes 300td couple and sedan

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Not 1987 but a W123 coupe and a sedan for a spare. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: nore...@craigslist.org Sent: 02 January 2017 15:54 To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com Subject: 1987 Mercedes 300td couple and sedan

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
I looked up the data on the steering box and was comfortable with what we did. There was excessive play and the minor adjustment removed it. About 1\4 turn ccw. I figured if the boxes were not supposed to be adjusted then the adjustment screw would be internal for a MB tech to get at. I have also

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1987 Mercedes 300td couple and sedan

2017-01-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I don't think so Fred- it says they are a couple Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4 matic Wickford RI On Jan 2, 2017 4:00 PM, "Fred Moir via Mercedes" wrote: > Not 1987 but a W123 coupe and a sedan for a spare. > > > Fred Moir. > Lynn MA. > Diesel preferred. > > >

Re: [MBZ] Nannies minimize mishap

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I am sure the EU will be the first to ban its own mandatory regulation. The EU in no way wants to impede the expression of piece practiced by its invaders, er, ah (obummer lingo) "migrants." Floyd Thursby via Mercedes January 2, 2017 at 9:54 AM I'm thinking

Re: [MBZ] 80A Fuse

2017-01-02 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> fmiser wrote: > > And with all the glow plugs disconnected from the relay, put a > fuse in and if it doesn't blow, then you can be sure the > problem is no the relay, but "downstream". Larry wrote: This is similar to a previous question - based on the below it sounds like I can test the

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Curley, re: Your comments below talk about 2 things that confuse me - First, you wrote "plug with a liner and ground." Liner? What Liner are you referring to? Also, you said "each of the 4 positions" did you mean to say 5 positions? When first reading your post I thought you were writing

[MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
The backup lights have suddenly stopped working on my 210. What is the perennial list of stuff to check? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 1 Jan 2017 13:49:07 -0500 Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote: > Bought the 1985 wagon from Andrew before he listed it on Bring a > Trailer! Really nice ride and so happy it was from someone who loves > their cars! Super body, super interior, amazing motor and

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Seems reasonably good, now find the fault in the wiring from the plugs to the relay... -Curt From: Larry Turner via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Larry Turner Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 19:08:08 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Well heres phase 1: > http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Snowmobiles/IMG_20170102_122357245_HDR_zpsigek5rfv.jpg > > Thats 1/4" hardware cloth, I wish I had some 1/8"but whatever,

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
They look good to me. You know you can check that at the harness end and the glow plug relay which is much easier Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > What does this tell me? > > OK, I finally tested the Ohms at

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 13:11:10 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > The bulbs And your FUSES! Craig > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > The backup lights have suddenly

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Well heres phase 1: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Snowmobiles/IMG_20170102_122357245_HDR_zpsigek5rfv.jpg Thats 1/4" hardware cloth, I wish I had some 1/8"but whatever, it shouldn't hurt airflow too much and will hopefully keep the mice out a little.I always put mothballs

[MBZ] Yuck

2017-01-02 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I saw a GLE 420 last night. That thing looked awful. The bar has been set for ugly. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Backup Lights

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The bulbs Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 2, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > The backup lights have suddenly stopped working on my 210. What is the > perennial list of stuff to check? > > Bob R > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Are the photos on the green grass current? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes Date: 2017-01-02 1:08 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
in your GP wiring harness, the plug at the relay has six positions. I believe only 5 are used. the ones used are lined with a socket for the pins in the relay. That is what I referred to as a liner in the socket of the plug. I am not familiar with 5 cyl OM602. I know on the 616, only 4

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
More likely you have a meter that can't differentiate between 0 ohms and 1 ohm. But yes, it is possible to have all 5 GPs grounded. not common at all, but possible the most common source of grounding when new GPs have been installed is the terminal on the gp wire turning as the nut is

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Larry. If the plug to the glow-plugs is disconnected and the fuse survives then, most likely, the relay is good. The testing of the GP removed from the engine will indicate whether the plug is functional. BE VERY CAREFUL! Burns y'know. Said testing will not tell you how much life is left in

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Curley, My answers follow your questions On 01/02/2017 10:46 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Larry, let us know if this recap is correct: no start (without excessive cranking.) Correct 5 GPs changed with intake manifold off Yes no start Correct GP fuse found blown Yes GP fuse

Re: [MBZ] New year?

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Curley. Feb 3, 1959 check. Dumb pilot flying in very bad weather with three precious souls, amen. We lost a few in 2016 tho' Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Curley McLain via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks. I plan to toss them all.At least now I know what the test indicated. ;-) Thx again Larry On 01/02/2017 12:05 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Larry. 1 & 2 seem to be in range 3, 4, and 5 are junk. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred.

[MBZ] Wilton?

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Now that I think about it, I don't recalling seeing Wilton around lately. Or did I just miss him? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
that is the test. NOW check your meter with known good plugs. If it can't differentiate between known good plus and 0 ohms (leads together) you need a different meter, or to use Philips ammeter test. Larry Turner via Mercedes January 2, 2017 at 7:36 AM The

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Larry, let us know if this recap is correct: no start (without excessive cranking.) 5 GPs changed with intake manifold off no start GP fuse found blown GP fuse replaced Was this fuse blown? I believe you visually inspected the GP terminals, and non of the wire terminals were touching. Is

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
OK that's what I have. a plug with 6 holes but only 5 are connected. That plug sends 12v to the GPs I believe.I understand what you were saying now. Thanks! I think this is typical for a 5 cyl. one large 12v wire, 2 plugs - 1 which has 5 active openings for GP power and a smaller

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I'm on he verge of buying new glow plugs. On 01/02/2017 12:07 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Thanks. I plan to toss them all.At least now I know what the test indicated. ;-) Thx again Larry On 01/02/2017 12:05 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Larry. 1 & 2 seem to be in

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've done that before. it is very dangerous on several accounts. Philips in car test is better. Use 12 ga (or 10 ga) wire to energize one pin position at a time. the ammeter is better than having to remove the injectors and look in the hole. Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
that test would be true if there is a ground between the plug got the GP harness and ground. That would indicate a shorted gp, a short between the GP terminal and the manifold, or a short in the wiring harness. IF the fuse blows with the harness connected and does not blow when the harness

[MBZ] Nannies minimize mishap

2017-01-02 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm thinking the UN might need to take steps to ban this technology as it impedes expressions of cultural diversity and violates a basic human right to practice one's religion https://gizmodo.com/autonomous-brakes-may-have-stopped-berlin-truck-attacke-1790571821 --FT Winston Churchill: “Never

Re: [MBZ] 80A Fuse

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Larry. If the fuse does not blow it only means that the excess load is removed. When the overload is solved and the fuse stays intact as the GP system is operated, then you can evaluate the relay. The behavior of the dash light gives clues as to the health of the system. Answers will be

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Larry. 1 & 2 seem to be in range 3, 4, and 5 are junk. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Larry Turner via Mercedes Sent: 02 January 2017 11:51 To: Curley McLain via

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Fred, Yeah, holding 1000F + in my hands is risky! On 01/02/2017 11:38 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Larry. If the plug to the glow-plugs is disconnected and the fuse survives then, most likely, the relay is good. The testing of the GP removed from the engine will indicate whether

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

2017-01-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Don't remove it! He's going to correct us all "on the other side"... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 21, 2016 10:51:00 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >While sorting out a subscription issue for Randy yesterday, I happened >to notice that

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thx! I hadn't considered that. On 01/02/2017 10:05 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: ANY GP WIRES THAT ARE GROUNDED ON THE MANIFOLD (most common problem) WON'T SHOW THE FAULT WITH THE MANIFOLD REMOVED. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: I plan to take the intake manifold off (as soon as I

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
OK, I tested my old GPs using my DMM and found the following. I put the red probe against the threads at the tip and the black probe against the threads that contact with the head. I used a Fluke 77 Series III if that matters. And the dial set to Resistance Ω. What does this tell me?

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
What does this tell me? OK, I finally tested the Ohms at each installed Glow Plug . I think the red probe was on the threaded tip each time and the black probe was on the manifold. 1 - .6 (on the wire hold down nut) 1 - .6 (probe on the 12v wire hold down nut) 2 - .2 3 - .1 4 - .1 5 -

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
So the only thing I found is the seal that the speedometer goes through the firewall is mostly gone. I imagine driving home in the rain, with the engine at interstate speed and the water from the cowl vents, that drain RIGHT ABOVE the Speedo cable, would let in a huge amount of water. I am

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>‎So the only thing I found is the seal that >the speedometer goes through the >firewall is mostly gone. That would do it. Rick  ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Was that within a few seconds of the key being turned on? Depending on the temp, the relay could only stay on for 10 to 30 seconds when the engine is cold. If it is fairly warm out, sometimes I can't get to the Relay output pins fast enough after turning the key on. Next step is to test

Re: [MBZ] color red - was: HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Color is a feature of HTML email, and the list strips such junk off. Indeed, consider our blind members. One should _never_ use color as the only distinguishing characteristic. There are also people who are color blind. We have had the ability to communicate clearly and unambiguously, via

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread MG via Mercedes
All the digital meters I've had don't care which way around the leads are put on the battery or item to be measured for voltage. If the leads are backwards then the reading will have - sign in front of the numbers. Even the really cheap (free) Harbor freight meters do this. The only time it

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Just from judging by his video my shop blows his away. Maybe I should start something up. On 1/2/2017 5:32 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I used to co moderate the MBCA w114/115 forum with him. He is now the grand poobah for some section in FL. Cool thing is, he will come out to your place

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hi Larry, If the battery is disconnected 0V is what you'd expect, also you've got the meter hooked up backward. Red is ALWAYS +, black is always -. Either you were holding the probes backwards or they're in the meter backward... -Curt From: Larry Turner via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes
Good idea. I can easily do that from the inside and make it watertight. Kyle On Jan 2, 2017 5:27 PM, "MG via Mercedes" wrote: > Sounds like a safe assumption. Try gooping it up with silicon for now and > see if it stops the leak. > Dealer is probably the only place to

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
I used to co moderate the MBCA w114/115 forum with him. He is now the grand poobah for some section in FL. Cool thing is, he will come out to your place and help you work on your old cars clay > On Dec 31, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Les blumner had several clients in NY and in Yurp he would go to to work on their cars at the estate. clay via Mercedes January 2, 2017 at 5:32 PM I used to co moderate the MBCA w114/115 forum with him. He is now the grand poobah for some section in FL. Cool

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Well, add this to the bizarre file. I started typing this reply and it disappeared. Poof! Oh well, I guess that was practice. The doors were locked some how and the alarm went off without any warning! Man! That's scary when the horn sounds and the lights flash!Naturally I had left my

Re: [MBZ] Front door seal question

2017-01-02 Thread MG via Mercedes
Sounds like a safe assumption. Try gooping it up with silicon for now and see if it stops the leak. Dealer is probably the only place to get the seal or it may only be available with the cable. Which reminds me. I need to get a new cable for my TD. The needle bounces a bit at low speed.

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Curt. I know it may appear I'm stupid, I know the battery has to be hooked up to get 12V from it. ;-) But I have been known to hook a meter up backwards. BTW, I also had 12V showing at the large red cable going into the relay and 12V on both sides of the flat fuse. But

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I just wanted to check, you specifically mentioned pulling the battery cable and then went on to say you had no power... I've got some alligator clips that are super handy for something like this, as Curley says its hard to get from the key switch to the plug and fumble around with the leads so

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The relay works by balancing the current through #1 plug against the current of all the other plugs combined, scaled by a factor. (The scaling is done by making a little transformer, four turns against one in a five-cylinder.) There are thus only TWO outputs of the internal relay, it's possible

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'm friends with Pierre... hes a good guy, and definitely passionate about these cars. You couldn't do much better in choosing an Indy. Jaime On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This guy drools all over himself over old Mercedes as bad

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ANY GP WIRES THAT ARE GROUNDED ON THE MANIFOLD (most common problem) WON'T SHOW THE FAULT WITH THE MANIFOLD REMOVED. Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: I plan to take the intake manifold off (as soon as I get a stubborn bolt out) and then I will inspect the wiring looking for possible shorts.

Re: [MBZ] 80A Fuse

2017-01-02 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Correct and when doing this, all 5 pins on the relay should show +12v if the relay is good. Larry Turner via Mercedes January 2, 2017 at 7:56 AM This is similar to a previous question - based on the below it sounds like I can test the relay by removing the plug

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Many meters are not good enough at measuring low-ohms to reliably troubleshoot glow plugs. A Fluke, though, is good enough. It's what I use. It's an easy test: if you short the probes together does it measure exactly zero ohms, or nearly zero ohms? The true answer is not exactly zero. (Unless

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > What does this tell me? *GP 1 - **0.3 * *Bosch* > *GP 2 - 0.3 "* > *GP 3 - 3.50 "* > *GP 4 - 63.4 "* > *GP 5 - 11.61 "* > That three of your five GP's were bad. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was attempting to create a copy of the 6 hole plug (only 5 holes are hot for a 300D) hoping the X would indicate the Pin coming out of the connector.Each X should have a number 1 to 5 next to it. Each of those 5 posts had an electrical value that

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I watched a few of his videos and seems like a good guy but there are some things I don't necessarily agree with him on. He does to appear to be a fan of the 603 or the 140, but he does got me to thinking I really like the idea of staying away from newer cars. Take for example the R320 I

Re: [MBZ] Wilton?

2017-01-02 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 11:16:30 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Now that I think about it, I don't recalling seeing Wilton around > lately. Or did I just miss him? I just called him. He said things are continuing on the same, with him having immunoglobulin

Re: [MBZ] Wilton?

2017-01-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Thanks for checking on him and reporting back . . . On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 11:16:30 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > Now that I think about it, I don't recalling seeing

Re: [MBZ] Found An Indy In Florida

2017-01-02 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
And you wanted me to buy a recent E class CDI - - - On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > he does got me to thinking I really like the idea of staying away > from newer cars. > Take for example the R320 I have. It has litterally

Re: [MBZ] Fused

2017-01-02 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That's always possible.. It was around 60F in the garage but the engine has not been started in 2 weeks or so. When my wife came home I asked her to turn the key to PreGlow while I tested the pins coming from the relay. With the Pins correctly oriented I put the red probe to the 12v source

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