Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-17 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Nice score! I've got a 3 inch 12v fan from an old UPS that I'm going to re-purpose as a ventilation fan, solar powered, in my sailboat. It draws some very small current, I'm thinking it is 25 mA or so. Planning to put a 50W panel on a controller to both charge the boat's deep cycle battery and r

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2021-02-17 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Speaking of fans for wood stoves, I was at the thrift shop yesterday and found two 8" 12V fans. I bought them, and they're extremely quiet. 9 blades on them, they look like submarine propellers. They draw about 160mA each at 12V, and blow a nice amount of air. If these were on our wood stove I

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
half Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that has never been used "in anger". It outputs 12v also which can be handy.It woul

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2021-02-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
have many hours on it. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curt Raymond Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that has never been used

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh, there isn't a space between the  end of my link and the next word.https://lanternnet.com/product/dietz-10-monarch-hot-blast-lantern/ I'll try two spaces this time. The list serv and Yahoo mail don't really get along. The list serv strips out most of my formatting. Any of those lanterns will

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2021-02-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Got the hot/cold blasts confused. This one is hot - https://lanternnet.com/product/dietz-10-monarch-hot-blast-lantern/ On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 5:17 PM OK Don wrote: > Like this one? Might keep an 8X8X8 well house above freezing with -10°F > temps? Your like went to a 30W incandescent bulb: > htt

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2021-02-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Like this one? Might keep an 8X8X8 well house above freezing with -10°F temps? Your like went to a 30W incandescent bulb: https://lanternnet.com/product/dietz-80-blizzard-cold-blast-lantern/ On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 3:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A look at Cr

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A look at Craigslist/yard sales/flea markets will yield loads of these tubular lanterns. Jim's link is a cold blast version, the doodad at the top takes air from outside, funnels it down those tubes where it gets to the flame. Cold blast lanterns make the most light for fuel volume in the flat

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2021-02-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Well you don't need to worry about food in the fridge going bad, just put it in boxes outside or on the porch. Get one of those little 2 stroke generators from HF, they are like $90 and will run your blowers fine.  They are quite handy too to keep in the truck to run a tool or air pump or some

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2021-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I need a kerosene lamp - what/where do I get one? Recommendations please. What about: https://www.redhillgeneralstore.com/Oil-Lanterns/Camping-Oil-Lantern.htm?color=red 45 hour burn time. -- Jim __

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2021-02-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Jim Cathey via Mercedes writes: >> I worry most about the well house freezing up - lots of pipe and two large >> water filters in there. We keep it above freezing with those 500W IR heat >> lamps, two for backup, but when there's no power ... > > Kerosene lamp. Or even candles, assuming you can

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2021-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I worry most about the well house freezing up - lots of pipe and two large > water filters in there. We keep it above freezing with those 500W IR heat > lamps, two for backup, but when there's no power ... Kerosene lamp. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I was just thinking about that. I have a clamp on inverter around here somewhere. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 12:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is the blower 120V? If so, use an inverter and a car battery to run it. If > not 120V, use a 12V computer fan like Jim said.

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2021-02-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Is the blower 120V? If so, use an inverter and a car battery to run it. If not 120V, use a 12V computer fan like Jim said. Zip tie it in front of the intake for the blower. Our power was off for an hour this morning, since it was almost exactly an hour I assume it was a rolling blackout. It came b

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I think for now I at least need to get some sort of portable generator. Worse case I could have run an extension cord into the house to run the thing. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > >  >> >> an insert with a blower but I guess it will still out out s

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Power just came back on, for now. Plugged the blower in and she is throwing out a lot of heat. Also the heat pump kicked back on, outside unit and all. It’s now up to 6 outside and those instructions said when it got above 5 the lockout should end so I guess it was just doing what it was suppose

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2021-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> an insert with a blower but I guess it will still out out some heat without > the blower. No, not much. Better than nothing, but not by much. Add a 12V computer fan and a car battery to the mix and you'd actually get some heat out of it. The heating units designed for forced air just don't

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It takes awhile for the stove and chimney to heat up to the point you really radiate heat.The stove we have at camp (An "All Nighter" which is a copy of a Fisher) has around 100# of firebrick inside. The first hour its lit from cold you're just heating the stove, after that you start to heat th

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Well that's weird. I don't think I've ever seen a carb fail while the engine was running.My little generator has a real actual carb bowl. I was surprised when I found that, I figured it'd be more like a Tillotson or Walbro carb on a snowmobile or chainsaw that has just a small space that acts l

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s good and hot now. Fire going good, top of it is hot but unfortunately without the blower it does not push much heat into the room. It’s now down to 58 in here by the maybe it’s putting off enough heat to keep it from dropping faster than without it. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021

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2021-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2021-02-16 10:58, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that has never been used "in anger". It outputs 12v also which can be handy.It would be super useful for you now as it would easily run your blower and just sip fuel. Its supposed to run 8 hours at half load

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Every year I go through a period of relearning how to get maximum output from the stove. There are a couple rules but its really more an art than a science. The quality of the wood makes a big difference as does outside temps and, to a lesser degree, even wind speed and direction. -Curt On

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that has never been used "in anger". It outputs 12v also which can be handy.It would be super useful for you now as it would easily run your blower and just sip fuel. Its supposed to run 8 hours at half load on 1 gallon of gas. A Honda 2000w would be better b

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s got an air control on each side, I can’t remember if they are pushed in or pulled out to open are flow into it. They were pushed in and it seemed like the fire was dying down with the doors closed so I pulled them out. As I said it’s been a while since I have used this thing. Sent from

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nope it’s all contained in the original brick chimney. I closed the doors on it and will see what happens I really need to look into a generator or some sort. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >  > The doors will probably make more heat, you're losi

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Closed, always with the doors closed. That's what allows you to control the air going in, otherwise all your warmed room air is going up the chimney. -Curt On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:39:46 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So got questions about these inserts. I have

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The doors will probably make more heat, you're losing it up the chimney because its getting too much air. I've got a thermometer on the stove pipe and I'm always interested in the fact that maximum heat is NOT achieved with maximum air. You've got to run a lot of air to get the fire going and t

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
So got questions about these inserts. I have ran it before with the blower going and the doors closed and it will heat the house nicely. With no power should I run it with the doors open or closed? It’s burning pretty good now but seems like there is very little head coming off of it yet. Sent

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Got the fire going. Of course it will take a while to start putting off some heat. Without the doors closed and the blower going, it seems like it’s probably operating like a regular fireplace with most of the heat going ok the chimney. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some of those units do pretty amazing things in the cold these days. 10-15 years ago 20F was the practical minimum but I've read of units that will still work down to 0F and there are some that probably go colder. I suspect efficiency takes a dump at those temps though. The guy I'm training to

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I don’t know if size matters but it’s a 5 ton unit and even when it was in the single digest I could tell it was putting out heat. I could tell the difference between when the outside unit was running and when it was shut down and only using the aux heat. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
p. Might be worth >> > downloading and browsing the owners' manual (or might not; some are much >> > worse than others). >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> > Sent: Mond

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2021-02-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
There's no point in it running if it can't extract any heat from the air.  It's a wonder it was running and putting out much when it got down below 20F or so. --FT On 2/16/21 10:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Power just came back on a few minutes ago.  Outside unit still not runnin

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Kaleb Striplin mailto:ka...@striplin.net>> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question > > Sounds like the unit just kicked back on. Guess we shall see how the night goes. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 15, 2021, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:merc

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2021-02-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
rse than > others). > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 11:52 PM > To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question > > Sounds like t

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2021-02-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
cold air). -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in there was no frost on the

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
see if they are clear or have started frosting up >>>> again. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>>&

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2021-02-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
t;> >>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 2:17 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably, given the outside temps and state of charge, the gas >> pressure going into the compressor gets

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2021-02-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
nday, February 15, 2021 11:52 PM > To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question > > Sounds like the unit just kicked back on. Guess we shall see how the night > goes. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 15, 2021,

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2021-02-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's what I'd be doing, light the fire and throw an extra blanket on the bed. Feb 15, 2021 11:44:21 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes : > I think you're below the temps where a ambient-air heat pump really does > anything at all. But as I said earlier I'm not speaking from experience. > > I'd fire u

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2021-02-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
de temps and state of charge, the gas > pressure going into the compressor gets too low if ice prevents the coils > from absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). > >>>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Merced

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
downloading and browsing the owners' manual (or might not; some are much worse than others). -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 11:52 PM To: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat

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2021-02-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
outside temps and state of charge, the gas pressure >>>>> going into the compressor gets too low if ice prevents the coils from >>>>> absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message---

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
low if ice prevents the coils from >>>>> absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>>> Sent: Monday,

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2021-02-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
ssure >>>> going into the compressor gets too low if ice prevents the coils from >>>> absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
gh heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM >>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>&

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
low if ice prevents the coils from >>> absorbing enough heat to raise the pressure (from that very cold air). >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM &

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
pressure (from that very cold air). -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in

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2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question > > Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in there was no frost on > t

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in there was no frost on the coils that I could see in the center part. I pulled the cover and sure enough it was

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2021-02-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
erience with demand defrost systems. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 10:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question Well I went out and checked it. When I looked at in there

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2021-02-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > Is there some sort of reason at these low temps that the outside unit > would shut itself down for a period of time then fire back up?  Does > the system determine that it is so cold outside that the outside unit > is not producing any heat anyway and shuts i

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Well I went out and checked it.  When I looked at in there was no frost on the coils that I could see in the center part.  I pulled the cover and sure enough it was blinking a low pressure lockout. With the side cover off I could see some frost on the outside of the coils, not a whole lot thoug

[MBZ] Heat pump question

2021-02-15 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It is now -3 outside, not sure how low it got last night. Anyway, heat pump has been running pretty much non stop for the last few days with the aux heat kicking on occasionally. Yesterday afternoon aux heat was on quite a bit as it never got over 4 yesterday.  This morning when I woke up outsi

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump update

2021-02-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Nice. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:18 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Got down to 6 last night and is up to 10 right now. Heat pump has pretty > much been running non stop. I notice aux heat kicks in occasionally and so > far breaker

[MBZ] Heat pump update

2021-02-13 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Got down to 6 last night and is up to 10 right now. Heat pump has pretty much been running non stop. I notice aux heat kicks in occasionally and so far breaker has not tripped. I really didn’t think that would fix it but so far so good. Sent from my iPhone

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2015-08-18 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Bob R wrote: > ...we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. Pastor Bob? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okieb

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2015-08-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My experience with Fargo in the summer is that it’s hotter than Hades. Don’t ask me about my winter experiences there. It’s not pleasant. Dan > On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > My Pop lives / summers in Fargo, spends some time during winter in either > AZ

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2015-08-18 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
*I think most people in Fargo go for the TruCoat, it keeps the cars from rusting out --R Customer*: We sat here right in this room and went over this and over this! *Jerry*: Yeah, but that TruCoat-- *Customer*: I sat right here and said I didn't want no TruCoat! *Jerry*: Yeah, but I'm sayin',

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2015-08-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My Pop lives / summers in Fargo, spends some time during winter in either AZ or visiting other relatives down south. Fargo is great for car lovers, I don't think they or any other place in ND use road salt in the winter, so rust is not the big deal like other northern states. The issue was high p

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2015-08-18 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but then some are a little off. But it's the kind of "off" you enjoy being around. I've seriously considered MN since we lived there in the late 70's, early '80's when I was in bible college. I love MN. HmmmMinnesota. .. Bob R ___

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2015-08-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Heck, if finances permitted I would love to have a summer home in Wisconsin for retirement. My only concern would be having all my “stuff” in both locations. Dan > On Aug 18, 2015, at 9:53 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I know some Yoopers. They all have good characteristics but

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2015-08-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Scott Sez: During an earlier age, it was vey common for those with means (not the working class) to summer up north and winter down south. Edgewater (IL) Community Area 77, 7 miles N of the Chicago Loop. Although it was an elite nineteenthcentury suburb, Edgewater was not recognized as dis

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2015-08-17 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
During an earlier age, it was vey common for those with means (not the working class) to summer up north and winter down south. > -Original Message- > From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:21 PM > > I am told that the descriptive equivalent of "snow birds" fo

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2015-08-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A lot of the cottage owners out at "the lake" where we go are from the US but mostly within a good day's drive - Illinois, Indiana, Iowa etc. RB On 17/08/2015 11:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: So the. You would have a large influx of Arizonians and Floridians for the summer, much like

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2015-08-17 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R Bob, Wisconsin, N of Rhinelander, N MN, and parts of canada are pretty nice in the summer

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2015-08-17 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So the. You would have a large influx of Arizonians and Floridians for the summer, much like we have a large influx of Canadians in the winter? Dan, eh Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am told that the descriptive equivalent of "snow

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2015-08-17 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I am told that the descriptive equivalent of "snow birds" for the winter visitors, is "summer chickens" for the folks that live there but leave for the worst of the hot weather. Maybe that is what you need to be? RB On 16/08/2015 10:07 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: I don't have to expla

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2015-08-16 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
nday, August 16, 2015 11:08 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Bob Rentfro > Subject: Re: [MBZ] heat > > I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about > the same. Ugh. > I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking a

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2015-08-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I drove through Phoenix in 1980 at night -- 98 F and 60% RH, a real sweatbox. In the old days, before urbanization, Phoenix was dry. Not any more. Flagstaff is still dry, I think. It was when I was there. Probably not so much this summer with all the rain. A friend of mine has his fir

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2015-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
But it’s a dry heat, right? Better than Floridia, where the dew point often exceeds the temperature (meaning it’s frighteningly humid.) I can tell how humid a day it is when I wake up by seeing how much condensation is on my sliding doors. Dan > On Aug 16, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Bob Rentfro vi

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2015-08-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I don't have to explain AZ. 117 Friday, 115 yesterday. Today should be about the same. Ugh. I'm tired of these summers. I have to start thinking about where I want to spend summers when I retire. Bob R On Aug 15, 2015 4:14 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sou

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2015-08-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
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2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Our winter broke records for cold. Painful. But the summer has so far been quite decent. Just waiting for the next hurricane - it's been 5 years or more since we got hit (other than Sandy). On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > October to A

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2015-08-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
October to April here. Lows in the 60s, highs in the 70s, low or no humidity. Lovely. Summer months can be hellish at times, but it's a small price to pay to avoid the cold, snow, and lack of sunlight in the winter months. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 14, 2015, at 10:08 AM, OK Don via Merce

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2015-08-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
We're thankful for the cool weather when it's below 95 - - - On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Don't know how you folks down south survive. > It is about 92 here today and although I claim to like it warm, this is > about warm enough for

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2015-08-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Of course, you can turn this around and ask “How do you stand those cold temperatures in winter?” Dan who lived in the Great White North at one time > On Aug 13, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here in D.C. we had 12 straight days above 90 but now it's settled

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2015-08-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Here in D.C. we had 12 straight days above 90 but now it's settled into the 80s with clear skies, low humidity. Nightime in the 50s and low 60s. Perfect. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Being short an employee I have been driving to Ar

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2015-08-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Being short an employee I have been driving to Arkansas 3 days a week and spending 8-10 hours a day all day out on dealers lots. Very very hot work Sent from my iPhone and humid ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/a

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2015-08-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Meh. As my Dad would have said, “It builds character”. BS. Dan > On Aug 13, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Being short an employee I have been driving to Arkansas 3 days a week and > spending 8-10 hours a day all day out on dealers lots. Very very hot work >

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2015-08-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Being short an employee I have been driving to Arkansas 3 days a week and spending 8-10 hours a day all day out on dealers lots. Very very hot work Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 13, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Welcome to the South! > > Around here it’s been in the m

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2015-08-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Welcome to the South! Around here it’s been in the mid to low 80s due to al the rain we’ve had, but the heat index has been around 100F for the last month or two. Just hydrate heavily and take breaks. I spent about eight hours in it on Saturday parting out the S500. Dan > On Aug 13, 2015, a

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2015-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Where's "here", Peter? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 13, 2015 6:55:22 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >Supposed to be upper 90s here all next week and weekend, so I had to >put off treating my bees for mites for a couple weeks. I want to kill > >the mi

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2015-08-13 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Supposed to be upper 90s here all next week and weekend, so I had to put off treating my bees for mites for a couple weeks. I want to kill the mites, not the bees! I'm ready for fall, but then after living in Canada for three years I'm ALWAYS ready for fall around here Peter ___

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2015-08-13 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I was out yesterday and chainsawed and split at least a cord of wood (with a gas-driven log splitter). It was high 80s, maybe 90. There's nothing I like more for doing that kind of work than a cool-to-cold Fall day where you have to keep moving to keep warm. Gets the job done faster, no sweat,

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2015-08-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
AC, or get on the water. We're having a cool spell, highs in the 80's for the past week or so. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change deliver

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2015-08-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
limate me to winter. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] heat I was out yesterday and chainsawed and split at least a cord of wood (with a gas-driven log splitter).  It was high

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2015-08-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I was out yesterday and chainsawed and split at least a cord of wood (with a gas-driven log splitter). It was high 80s, maybe 90. Just have to keep consuming mass quantities of water, take breaks every little while. I actually like it warm, after spending my first 45 years in cold winters.

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2015-08-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Don't know how you folks down south survive. It is about 92 here today and although I claim to like it warm, this is about warm enough for me. Supposed to drop back off to more reasonable tempertures by about Sunday. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Heat pump install complete

2012-11-10 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max Dillon" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Heat pump install complete Finally had time to troubleshoot the heat pump system I installed last week. Discovered

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2012-11-10 Thread Craig
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:33:10 -0500 Max Dillon wrote: > Competed the rest of the installation: repaired insulation on the > refrigerant line, sealed hole in the foundation, hooked up the drain > line. > > Looking forward to a much more comfortable house and lower power bills. Congratulations!

[MBZ] Heat pump install complete

2012-11-10 Thread Max Dillon
Finally had time to troubleshoot the heat pump system I installed last week. Discovered a mistake in the low voltage wiring connections at the air handler. Fixed that, and the system began working as designed. 110 degree air at the vents, to celebrate I've set the thermostat at 75. Competed

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2012-07-07 Thread clay monroe
That sounds like my situation. Fifteen years ago the messed up electric furnace crapped out in Feb. Three weeks without heat, and getting ready to redo the kitchen. Switch to gas, got the antiquated electric panel upgrade to new, and all new furnace and WH. Old furnace was on knob and tube

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2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Air handler is single speed. Thanks for the info. I'll see how she does without a top off. Going to try to install over the next couple weeks, hour here and there after work. Mitch Haley wrote: > >Seems to be in the ballpark. > >Regular air handler >http://www.acwholesalers.com/Goodman_Hea

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2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: Is this a fair price? I just paid $1660 delivered for a 2 ton Goodman heat pump system (outside condenser unit, inside handler, 50 foot copper line set). R410, 13 SEER. It comes with the refrigerant charge, I can install myself with about 20 hours of labor, plus supplies l

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2012-07-07 Thread Max Dillon
Is this a fair price? I just paid $1660 delivered for a 2 ton Goodman heat pump system (outside condenser unit, inside handler, 50 foot copper line set). R410, 13 SEER. It comes with the refrigerant charge, I can install myself with about 20 hours of labor, plus supplies like silver solder, n

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2012-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley writes: > OTOH, the guys on an HVAC forum tell me that a Goodman dealer buys > from Goodman for substantially less than I paid. Makes me wonder how > the guys without a dealership who buy from the supply houses can ever > compete. Most people replace their furnace in a panic, in Janu

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2012-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: That, or find someone with a sales tax exemption certificate or business license and buy it from a local wholesaler. Johnstone Supply wanted $1059 for my furnace that I got for $831 (before deducting a 6% coupon) shipped from an internet dealer in Florida. I was rather surp

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2012-07-06 Thread Curt Raymond
I did, he got cancer and retired... Theres a geo-thermal outfit that sponsors NPR I may give them a shout. At the least I should do some diligence and see what my options are. -Curt Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 16:32:01 -0400 From: Allan Streib To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat

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