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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
There is one shipper in AK that retrofit their fleet with massive LNG tanks.
They shuttle between WA and AK, as well as head out to HI in these boats.
It is the Green thing to do. I wonder if they could swap over to H fuel at
a later date
tough men.
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I used to work along the tracks by the Amtrak office. There were a number of
trains sitting on side rails chugging away day and night with nobody onboard.
Upon occasion one would be sitting and not running. It was entertaining when
they tried to light it off. Always a summer event. Massive
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> *Ele
I seem to recall that Standard Oil needed to find a use for all the left over
product after making the main product Kerosene back in the day. IIRC that led
to the battle over what would fuel the automobiles of the future where steam
and batteries lost to petrol.
Clay
> On Jan 6, 2022, at
There is one shipper in AK that retrofit their fleet with massive LNG tanks.
They shuttle between WA and AK, as well as head out to HI in these boats. It
is the Green thing to do. I wonder if they could swap over to H fuel at a
later date.
Euro rail is electric. Not a small enough area to
The 'refineries' have ability to make one compound out of another that
they didn't have 100 years ago, IIRC it's mostly cracking the heavy
stuff down into gasoline fractions.
To answer your question, I believe the jet fuel used to go into kerosene
lamps and heaters.
Mitch.
On 2022-01-06
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*Electric cars are niche vehicles for the rich based on the myth they don't
pollute. Given state of the art of electrical power generation,
conversion, and transmission, electric vehicle operation
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> In the real world, cold weather sucks the life out of battery reserves.
> So, at wind chill minus 30, range woul
Cc: G Mann
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
In the real world, cold weather sucks the life out of battery reserves. So, at
wind chill minus 30, range would be much less... then, how do you heat the car
so you can stand to drive and survive... stuck in a snowbank for a couple
air
> >>> - the outlet temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat
> pump
> >>> puts out.
> >>>
> >>> I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita
> >> that
> >>> won't perform.
>
as I don't want to put something in the casita
that
won't perform.
Thanks!
-D
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
The
You have to have one of those back bumper/trailer hitch racks with a
good sized generator on it so that you can feed your battery.
Randy
On 06/01/2022 7:57 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
In the real world, cold weather sucks the life out of battery reserves. So,
at wind chill minus 30, range
>> won't perform.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -D
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>>> behalf of OK Don via
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t;>> Thanks!
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>>> -D
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>>> mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com>> on
>>> behalf of OK Don via
>>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
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temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat pump
>>> puts out.
>>>
>>> I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita
>> that
>>> won't perform.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -D
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gt; I'm curious about this as I don't want to put something in the casita
>> that
>>> won't perform.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> From: Mercedes on behalf of OK Don via
>>> Mercedes
In the real world, cold weather sucks the life out of battery reserves. So,
at wind chill minus 30, range would be much less... then, how do you heat
the car so you can stand to drive and survive... stuck in a snowbank for a
couple days with no recharge [real world that happens] you become a well
-D
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> The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either 5
> or 10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it
5-20 rings a bell. It was changed past summer with generic tire shop goo that
#2 boy handled since he was driving it
Clay
> On Jan 5, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> OIL SAE viscosity?
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I got off the phone with #1 boy in ND. He was wanting advice on why the fob
for the car was not allowing touch unlock and keyless start. The separate auto
start fob does its job fine. He keeps his keys in the work truck at -28C today
with -49C windchill. I told him to keep his fob in his
The cars live in the garage religiously. I did point out things to make these
more useful in GWN winters, but SWMBA poo-poos that kind of thing. She does
swap out tires for winter, but no winter oil or upgrades. Heated seat and
steering wheel are her idea of winter prep. I stopped talking
OIL SAE viscosity?
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Temps this week hover around 0*F in ANC. The carpet installers are using
:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
You have blankets, a parka, and insulated boots in the trunk, right?
Mitch.
On 2022-01-05 15:39, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> I don't know how a half-charged EV vs. a
penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
Don, is the outlet air temperature decent? That's one thing that a lot of
people don't get used to if they've experienced gas or electric forced air -
the outlet temps are generally quite a bit higher than what a heat pump puts
out
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
From what my insulation guys said, and they've been doing this in the Flagstaff
area for some years, mini-splits have always performed better at low
temperatures than the larger single home
in the casita that
won't perform.
Thanks!
-D
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
The Mitsubishi mini-split we had
good luck tonight
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 9:35 PM OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either 5
> or 10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it held the temp just fine. The
> temp is supposed to drop to 12F tonight - we'll see.It's also
The Mitsubishi mini-split we had installed last year is rated for either 5
or 10F. It has been down to 15F so far, and it held the temp just fine. The
temp is supposed to drop to 12F tonight - we'll see.It's also very quiet.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 7:46 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
yes we just had one rated 4F installed in our church rectory.
the one we put in our house 15 years ago is rated 30F for heat
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 6:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Actually, there are heat pumps now rated for lower temperatures. My
>
I watched over lunch a jay leno vid of the EQS prototype or whatever it was. He
was with the MB marketing director or whatever who was an inane ADHD
marketing-bullshit-spewing twit. The review was quite superficial, mostly about
the vid screens and various electronic functions (scents!) and
It depends upon the heat pump I think. I got in a debate on that recently on
Reddit. Apparently there are heat pumps that will work down to 5F (-15
Canadians) which is pretty good.
For the house up north I'm debating a geothermal system to replace the current
oil burner. We've got good access
0F isn't really all that cold, especially considering the light oil in today's
engines.
A block heater is a good idea but I bet its hard to find a car with a real
freeze plug these days. Neither of my VWs have one. They make a coolant heater
that the guys in real cold climes use.
My 2015 TDI
I had put the batteries from the snowmobile club's Pisten Bully on the
batteryMinder on maintenance mode a month ago. Monday I took them over and put
them in the machine. Remember this has a big Mercedes diesel truck engine, I
forget exactly, OM3xx something.The 2 batteries are in series for
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is selling vaporware
I thought they might even work down to about -20C but we get colder than
that here in the GWN. It is -25C right now at 5:00 PM.
The coldest that I have seen
I thought they might even work down to about -20C but we get colder than
that here in the GWN. It is -25C right now at 5:00 PM.
The coldest that I have seen lately is about -33C but we sometimes
exceed that.
Randy
On 05/01/2022 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Actually, there are
Actually, there are heat pumps now rated for lower temperatures. My insulation
guys in Flagstaff offered me a mini-split that’s good down to 4F (-15C) for the
casita. Granted, I can’t imagine the air temperature coming out of it would be
that great, but it’s supposed to produce heat down to
It really isn't a problem for Tesla owners to keep the car warm in
really cold weather. They just light it on fire and it burns hot for days.
Heat pumps for houses don't work here in the winter temperatures. They
are fine in spring and fall but come winter, you will be relying upon
electric
Do you have block heaters in your vehicles? If not, get them installed.
Not expensive and if plugged in and kept warm, the vehicle will start.
You can also get battery blankets that are electric heaters to keep the
battery warm.
Randy
On 05/01/2022 3:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
Temps
No. I wear a hoodie, jeans, sneakers, and no gloves. If I get stuck, I get on
twitter and complain that nobody is coming to help.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 4:15 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> You have blankets, a parka, and insulated boots in the trunk, right?
> Mitch.
>
> On 2022-01-05
You have blankets, a parka, and insulated boots in the trunk, right?
Mitch.
On 2022-01-05 15:39, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I don't know how a half-charged EV vs. a car with a half-tank of gas
would compare as far as keeping warm enough to prevent hypothermia in
a "stranded in a
Temps this week hover around 0*F in ANC. The carpet installers are using the
garage to prep so the cars are out on the street. I tried to move one that had
sat overnight to put it in the driveway. Maybe 30 hour cold soaked and that
poor battery was nearly incapable of spinning it over. Like
Also, that's why the 620 claimed range is welcome ... in real world conditions
running the heat or AC, it's still probably going to have "useful" range even
if it doesn't manage the ideal-condition "rated" range.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> I just wonder how
Ask the folks in Teslas who were stranded on the interstate in Virginia.
I think at least the newer EV cars do not use resistance heating, which would
be a heavy drain on the batteries, but use a heat pump system which should be
more efficient, at least as long as it's not *too* cold outside.
I just wonder how harsh weather conditions would affect driving range. For
example, full AC or heat when it's a hundred degrees or 20 degrees has got
to be a severe drain on the batteries.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, 2:23 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> If it really has a
If it really has a 620 mile range (assume real-world ~500) that would be quite
welcome. Not a fan of the wide screen and other gizmos. Give me a car with that
range, basic gauges on the dash, a manual climate control system, real switches
for the headlights, wipers, and other accessories, and I
MB Tex was the distant ancestor of vegan upholstery.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 8:44 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Wasn’t that called “MBTex”?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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> > On Jan 3, 2022, at 8:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Wasn’t that called “MBTex”?
--FT
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> On Jan 3, 2022, at 8:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
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> Fisker uses vegan leather too.
>
>> On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 7:02 PM Clay via Mercedes
>> wrote:
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>> Vegan leather = Mango fruit leather
>>
>> Clay
>>
>>
>>> On Jan
Fisker uses vegan leather too.
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 7:02 PM Clay via Mercedes
wrote:
> Vegan leather = Mango fruit leather
>
> Clay
>
>
> > On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38651341/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx-concept-revealed/
Vegan leather = Mango fruit leather
Clay
> On Jan 3, 2022, at 2:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38651341/mercedes-benz-vision-eqxx-concept-revealed/
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause
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