[neonixie-l] Re: Radio 4 time code.

2013-10-15 Thread dr pepper
think I'll look into this, radio france doesnt have any sob stories about shutting down. On Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:05:17 UTC+1, dr pepper wrote: A question for those of us in the UK. I allready have a frequency standard that uses radio 4 on long wave to synchronise to, however

[neonixie-l] Re: 866 Mercury Vapor Rectifier as Novelty Lamp

2013-05-29 Thread dr pepper
Paint some of the white stuff on it from the inside of a fluorescent tube, and you'll have a complicated white light bulb. They made us wear safety glasses at my last place, they had a lot of welding bays, and claimed that clear polycarb safety glasses spread out the uv from a flash enough to

[neonixie-l] Re: Steampunk Spinner on eBay

2013-05-15 Thread dr pepper
Looks like an OG3 On 15 May, 21:28, micha...@aol.com wrote: And that is why I had to bid on it.  :) In a message dated 5/15/2013 12:54:58 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, threeneur...@yahoo.com writes: Interesting to see if it goes anywhere:http://www.ebay.com/itm/140976925149 It's not my

[neonixie-l] Re: Numitrons spotted?

2013-05-15 Thread dr pepper
Theres a station out in the country not far from here that has the same pumps, they are made by gilbarco, and there are still some pumps with nixies in in this country. Magnetic flip 7 segments still sem to be the norm here, lcd's are creeping in slowly. On 15 May, 21:02, threeneurons

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-13 Thread dr pepper
What spence says, and keep your wiring short esp to the nixies. A 1000u cap right at the power input wouldnt be bad either. If the issue occurs at a certain ht voltage then maybe your reaching the breakdown voltage of the switching fet/transistor, I've had this before. Another thing is the

[neonixie-l] Re: Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
At the price they are and the fact they are 'untested' I'd stay well clear, why are they for sale untested? With a clock circuit bunged in all working the unit would probably be quite valuable. On 8 May, 20:17, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly, i can not imagine how sky high the price

[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
A very interesting ebay item there. You'd also need an air compressor and a power press to suit the tooling. I think the machine with the flame torches is for assembling the base and tube sections of the nixies, maybe someone here knows more about the prod side of things. Not everything you

[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
Sorry I'll correct one of my statements, I didnt mean to say empty boxes, I meant sealed up boxes, so you cant actually see what your getting. On 8 May, 22:21, dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com wrote: A very interesting ebay item there. You'd also need an air compressor and a power press

[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for the press tooling. A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included. Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one of the

[neonixie-l] Re: Russian IEL-0-VI 8 segment displays

2013-05-07 Thread dr pepper
in Russia powered them and tell you, but feel free to try - I`ve never heard about broken ELI :) Moreover, I saw ELI with broken glass that still were (partially) functional. Excuse me for my english, Dmitry Dianov. 2013/5/3 dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com Yes I read the VTA

[neonixie-l] Russian IEL-0-VI 8 segment displays

2013-05-02 Thread dr pepper
Does anyone have any experience of these displays? As far as I can tell they are electroluminescent, and are driven from ac. I'd like to use one of these and was wondering what sort of voltages and waveforms i'd need, they are similar in operation to a vfd but without a heater. -- You received

[neonixie-l] Re: Russian IEL-0-VI 8 segment displays

2013-05-02 Thread dr pepper
Yes I read the VTA article. Cant find it now but there was something showed up after a quick google showing the pinouts, is there just a backplane and segment connections as per an lcd, or is there other volatges req. And would I need to have any dc bias like on some vfd tubes to ensure the

[neonixie-l] Re: Interesting VFD clock...

2013-04-29 Thread dr pepper
I was thinking of making one of those having found the tubes for sale. I guess I wont be the first. On 23 Apr, 16:22, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote: Not entirely nixie tube related obviously, but thought this was a pretty cool implementation using IV-26 tubes..

[neonixie-l] Re: OG8 dekatrons

2013-02-27 Thread dr pepper
I havent bothered with a deka pend since, noone I've showed it likes it, 'whats that thing doing'. Personally I like the glow from a dekatron just as much as a nixie. Next in line for build is a vfd, I have several russian jobs waiting to be used. On 26 Feb, 21:13, threeneurons

[neonixie-l] Re: OG8 dekatrons

2013-02-26 Thread dr pepper
I've played with og3's, I thought they were part argon, I might be wrong though. The only drawback for me was that they need 3 microcontroller pins, or some circuitry to provide the 3 phases to drive them. The brightness of the glow is also a bit less than a neon tube. I had trouble getting the

[neonixie-l] Re: Testing nixie tubes

2012-12-10 Thread dr pepper
I've not heard of sleeping sickness till now, but I think I've seen it on a couple of tube I have, they dont work untill I crank up the volatge to the point where all the others are way too bright. Like you I kept them in case they can be sorted, I'll put them on my hv supply and cook them in and

[neonixie-l] My nixie/dekatron/neon bargraph clock in a girder

2012-11-13 Thread dr pepper
No its not an iron brew advert, its my clock built into a girder, I got fed up of looking for a case and fell over an ally girder here at work, so it became the case for my project. I've been working on this for a while, it has 4 nixies a dekatron and a neon bargraph, its controlled by a

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies/VFDs on UK TV...

2012-11-12 Thread dr pepper
The bond film I think is an edge lit rather than a nixie. I have some old dr who films that show nixies, and I think theres a couple of the original star trek with them too. On 12 Nov, 10:32, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: Infiniti ad

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies/VFDs on UK TV...

2012-11-12 Thread dr pepper
I'd like to re-create the display on one of the dr who films where they showed the dalek computer, it had what looked like dge lit displays but had a weird dalek type numeral pattern, anyone have a picture of these?, it'd make a cool project. On 12 Nov, 17:33, dr pepper seaking.helicopt

[neonixie-l] Re: My first two-digit Nixie tube!

2012-10-22 Thread dr pepper
At last someone with a lab smaller than mine, I recently moved house and aquired half a room for my 'shop, only problem is I still dont have time to use it. On 20 Oct, 23:43, jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote: Hi, here are the pictures of one of the colon tubes (as always, air

[neonixie-l] Re: My first two-digit Nixie tube!

2012-10-18 Thread dr pepper
I've wondered about using little to92 triacs to run nixies from,you can get them up to 800v fairly cheap, you'd need ac to power the tubes of course. On 18 Oct, 07:51, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: They are cute ! Make more and do a Binary Clock. Use relays/valves  if you don't want to

[neonixie-l] Re: Iv18 only smaller

2012-10-17 Thread dr pepper
regards, Konstantinwww.kosbo.com -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dr pepper Sent: 05 October 2012 10:44 To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Iv18 only smaller I've asked this on another forum a few days back, either

[neonixie-l] Re: My first two-digit Nixie tube!

2012-10-17 Thread dr pepper
If you can make a nixie tube, which does look cool by the way, I'm sure you can throw together a spotter from an old microwave tranny. I have an old british federal spot welder controller, but it aint much use as it didnt come with the little number plugs you use to set the times. On 16 Oct,

[neonixie-l] Iv18 only smaller

2012-10-05 Thread dr pepper
I've asked this on another forum a few days back, either no-one knows or its a quiet forum. I have a couple of 8 digit vfd tubes, with seperate grids, leads all at one end, I got them thinking they were iv18's, but when they arrived they are smaller, does anyone have any idea what they'll be,

[neonixie-l] Re: Philips CRT plant in Heerlen (NL) is closed. Inventory is selled out !

2012-10-01 Thread dr pepper
I'm surprised they managed to keep running as long as they have. It seems to be 'the way forward', instead of re-equiping a plant for producing other items just to shut them down and walk away. Thermionics are disappearing. On 30 Sep, 21:33, Tidak Ada offl...@zeelandnet.nl wrote: The CRT plant

[neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-21 Thread dr pepper
That answers a few points. So overdriving tubes isnt necessarily a no no. I also didnt know poisoning occurs at too low a current, better put a minimum brightness limit on any new designs then. I have a dekatron circuit that uses 'pull mids', it works without them, I was wondering why they were

[neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-20 Thread dr pepper
UTC+1, dr pepper wrote: So why is multiplexing a bad idea, and static displays make tubes last longer?, does multiplexing accelerate cathode poisoning or something? I have 3 or 4 prototypes I've put together and they all use multiplxing, even the single tube ones use pwm as a brightness control

[neonixie-l] Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-19 Thread dr pepper
So why is multiplexing a bad idea, and static displays make tubes last longer?, does multiplexing accelerate cathode poisoning or something? I have 3 or 4 prototypes I've put together and they all use multiplxing, even the single tube ones use pwm as a brightness control (and so probably inherit

[neonixie-l] Re: NE-2 lamps not fully blanking

2012-09-11 Thread dr pepper
Hi again, Good to see the 100k improves things, leakage either is or contributing to the isse then, maybe the base of Q9 is capacitvely coupled to something, I dont know why the 10k messed things up, 10k isnt a low enough resistance to upset the pic, if you pull too much current from the pic

[neonixie-l] Re: Newcomer interested in Nixie clocks

2012-09-11 Thread dr pepper
Welcome to the forum Johnny. If your a newbie to electronics then your right to build a kit firstoff. I've built various clock gizmo's, some nixie, some led some mechanical its an addictive interest. On 11 Sep, 03:47, Terry Kennedy terry+googleb...@tmk.com wrote: On Sep 10, 4:00 am, Johnny

[neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread dr pepper
My first clock circuit was a 7 segment led, and I built it using a microprocessor, a 6502, I had little experience at the time and it wasnt easy. I suggest that you build a published design first then either modify it or build your own version, I'd also reccomend you build one that runs from low

[neonixie-l] Re: High Voltage from 9V battery trick

2012-08-12 Thread dr pepper
I'd rather have an inverter than go and buy a box of pp3's at 5 quid each. On 11 Aug, 00:06, Jonathan Peakall jpeak...@madlabs.info wrote: I did this several times as a kid and never did get them to set on fire, even when sitting in a puddle of gasoline. :-p  I have had a couple of cases

[neonixie-l] Re: Whats a divergence meter.

2012-08-10 Thread dr pepper
Not sure but I think its a device used in a cartoon type film or series, some boffin builds a machine to tell the diffrence in time between different worlds so that you can travel between then, the divergence meter is used to set the travel machine. I'm sure I got that completely wrong, seeing as

[neonixie-l] Re: Simple drive circuit for single pulse dekatron

2012-08-09 Thread dr pepper
Revival of an old thread. Its a while back but I promised a vid of my nixie/deaktron/neon bargraph clock, just found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVYEiCc19Bsfeature=youtu.be On 13 July, 15:14, dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com wrote: Yes I could use something like a 4094 or similar

[neonixie-l] Whats a divergence meter.

2012-08-06 Thread dr pepper
Seen a few references to a 'divergence meter', a gizmo with nixie tubes, or what look like them. Looks like something to do with a film on TV, so probably a little gimmicky. Can anyone elaborate on what one of these is? Might be a money earner for those building clock kits. -- You received this

[neonixie-l] Re: Simple drive circuit for single pulse dekatron

2012-07-13 Thread dr pepper
...@gmail.com wrote: That looks like an really interesting clock! Do you have any pictures or video? On Friday, July 13, 2012 1:49:57 PM UTC+1, dr pepper wrote: I have a nixie clock prototype that uses 4 in1 nixies, a in9 bargraph and a og3 dekatron. The clock works well however the dekatron

[neonixie-l] Re: Simple drive circuit for single pulse dekatron

2012-07-13 Thread dr pepper
. Getting married Wednsday so my shop is a dressmakers at the minute so might be few days. https://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l/browse_thread/thread/299b26872385bcbc/55cd1a992152b3e1?hl=en-GBlnk=gstq=dr+pepper#55cd1a992152b3e1 On 13 July, 14:12, dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com wrote: I

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie pendulum pov project.

2012-04-28 Thread dr pepper
. On Wednesday, April 25, 2012 4:07:07 PM UTC-7, dr pepper wrote: ...unfortunately its naff, you cant read the display without squinting, it swings just too slow, unless one of you guys has any ideas I think this one can be shelved. Pic: http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352

[neonixie-l] Pendulum nixie pov idea.

2012-04-25 Thread dr pepper
Firstly this project has a led 7 segment display, however I intended to use a nixie on the end product. I saw a youtube vid for 'the first nixie propeller clock', maybe one of you guys built it, its an excellent project however I wanted something quieter that could run continuous. So I came up

[neonixie-l] Nixie pendulum pov project.

2012-04-25 Thread dr pepper
Firstly this project has a led 7 segment display, however I intended to use a nixie on the end product. I saw a youtube vid for 'the first nixie propeller clock', maybe one of you guys built it, its an excellent project however I wanted something quieter that could run continuous. So I came up

[neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-04-23 Thread dr pepper
I have bought stuff from alexer1 and sovtube, and I have to say thankfully both did exactly as promised and turned up the goods. Alexer1 sent me another OG3 with another order after I had one show up DOA. On 19 Apr, 00:53, Spencer W upnxwoo...@yahoo.com wrote: Don't say that. I just bought 100

[neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-04-23 Thread dr pepper
...@yandex.ua Any of you guys heard of it, I'm not saying anything bad about this seller I dont know them. On 24 Apr, 04:04, dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com wrote: I have bought stuff from alexer1 and sovtube, and I have to say thankfully both did exactly as promised and turned up

[neonixie-l] Re: What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-19 Thread dr pepper
The time before last when I did a search on ebay for nixies there were serveral soviet ebay businesses selling various nixies, dekatrons, numitrons and the like, all at reasonable prices and I've bought a few, last nite when I did the same only a couple showed up, and they were expensive, and

[neonixie-l] Re: What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-19 Thread dr pepper
, and loads came up. On 19 Apr, 17:51, Per Jensen elektronikbik...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/04/2012, at 18.06, dr pepper wrote: The time before last when I did a search on ebay for nixies there were serveral soviet ebay businesses selling various nixies, dekatrons, numitrons and the like, all

[neonixie-l] What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-18 Thread dr pepper
Having just looked around ebay to get the type number of the last load of numitrons I bought I realised that theres hardly any. Are these devices finally drying up, might be worth holding on to mine for a bit then. Sovtube was shipping them by the 1000's, either its just a quiet period or these

[neonixie-l] What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-18 Thread dr pepper
Having just looked around ebay to get the type number of the last load of numitrons I bought I realised that theres hardly any. Are these devices finally drying up, might be worth holding on to mine for a bit then. Sovtube was shipping them by the 1000's, either its just a quiet period or these

[neonixie-l] Re: What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-18 Thread dr pepper
My post says numitrons, which is what I was looking for, I also meant nixies and dekatrons as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,

[neonixie-l] Re: Calculating multiplexed nixie's RMS current

2012-03-14 Thread dr pepper
Dmms tend to use charge balance techniques for measurements and these can be way off at ac esp at higher frequencies. A cheap old analogue meter would probably give you a better approx reading. Another way I have used is just supply the thing from a bench power supply and look at the current

[neonixie-l] Re: Important Lesson Learned Today...

2012-02-27 Thread dr pepper
You can protect against crashed programs from toasting tubes, at least with the pic micro by using the watchdog timer, carashes can be detected and dealt with. For real expensive tubes you could add a capacitor resistor missing pulse detector to power down the ht if the multiplex anode switches

[neonixie-l] Re: Class action lawsuit...

2012-02-09 Thread dr pepper
They still put mercury in glass envelopes, there are several hundred here where I work. In the light fittings, 2 types high pressure and low pressure mercury. and HID and metal halide. Mercury is also present in reasonable quantity in fluorescent tubes, of which there are millions all around us.

[neonixie-l] Re: Burned K155ID1 chips?

2012-02-09 Thread dr pepper
74 ttl as mentioned really needs a 5v regulated supply, the 7805 is important. Also a ceramic decoupling capacitor accross each chip supply pins is a good idea, I've had similar issues with 74 devices, when the transistors change state within the device there is a 'rush through', sort of a

[neonixie-l] Re: Class action lawsuit...

2012-02-08 Thread dr pepper
About the comments further up about what people 'should' be able to do. Its my opinion that at least here in the uk, there is a rot, esp for younger people. To be honest I dont think they could even change a diaper, everyone thinks that everyone else 'ows' them something and gets all screwed up

[neonixie-l] Re: Another All-tube Nixie Clock - On Youtube

2012-01-29 Thread dr pepper
Fascinating. Reminded me of colosus, maybe thats where some of the ideas are from, must cost a mint to make one of those, interesting looking at the vid that the time counters at the bottom of the machine are counting in binary, maybe bcd, the tubes higher up must be bcd to decimal translater

[neonixie-l] Re: arduino driven clock

2012-01-26 Thread dr pepper
I'd reccomend a numtron, they are the simplest kind of vintage display, essentially just 7 or 8 bulbs in one glass tube. A single digit version ought to be simple to build, do a google. If your not writing the code a multiplexed display is simpler to build. You can still get 74141's on ebay, my

[neonixie-l] Re: New to the group, prototype working.

2012-01-25 Thread dr pepper
a right mess but its a prototype. http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/widgidibbie/Fan002-1.jpg http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/widgidibbie/Fan001-1.jpg http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy352/widgidibbie/Fan003.jpg On 24 Jan, 13:56, dr pepper seaking.helicopt...@gmail.com In9's

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-25 Thread dr pepper
signals. On 25 Jan, 17:04, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 1/25/12 9:28 AM, H. Carl Ott wrote: On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM, David Forbesdfor...@dakotacom.net   wrote: On 1/24/12 3:45 AM, dr pepper wrote: Oh es, thanks for the link John. The  problem with building

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-24 Thread dr pepper
So the number of cycles in a day has been abandoned, at least the info was correct. The sites are cool that show you the load, not many of those gigawatts are powering nixies. I'm surprised forensics can analyse recordings for mains hum at all these days, everything for the last 10 years has a

[neonixie-l] Re: New to the group.

2012-01-24 Thread dr pepper
In9's were in the bits box, simple as that really, judging by the colour its argon, I got it at 10mA full scale, I spose the accuracy isnt all that good, rusky stock. The tube gets warm after a while it burns around a watt or so. Good to see that the setup for the IN1's looks ok to you guys. My

[neonixie-l] Re: New to the group.

2012-01-23 Thread dr pepper
Thats interesting, I'm using 4 by IN1's, but not a a101 I have a OG3 single pulse dekatron. I have a supply breadboarded, it puts 210 out for the nixies, I use a 12k anode resistor, befroe you shout my tubes are multiplexed by 5 (4 tubes and another slot for some neons). My supply uses a 555 I

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-23 Thread dr pepper
I'm interested in a OXCO if anyone knows a good design. Also thought about receiving radio 4 on long wave 198 kc and dividing down to 1hz, they use a rhubidium oscillator to make the carrier, dont know why, I'm sure someone here does. On 20 Jan, 18:42, Nicholas Stock nickst...@gmail.com wrote:

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread dr pepper
My source for this isnt necessarily accurate, however they say the mains freq is accurate in the uk over a 24 hour period from 9 am till 9 am, they speed up and slow down the gensets during the 24 hours and at night time they control the speed to get the right amount of cycles for the last 24

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-19 Thread dr pepper
Interesting. Yes the grid frequency drops when the generating station is overloaded, the gensets slow down and the output frequency depends on ratational speed, theres an online gizmo for the uk that shows the current frequency, it says at the lower end 'overloaded'. This side of the pond you can

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-18 Thread dr pepper
Take care of clocks using the mains as a timebase like the ones posted, they are for 60hz, ok in the us, but wouldnt be any good here in the uk. If you go for a crystal timebase then make sure you get the right crystal, they come in series and parallel flavours, parallel seems more popular, some

[neonixie-l] Re: Remedial Transistor Help

2012-01-18 Thread dr pepper
Try connecting the anode of the led to +12v through a resistor, then connect the cathode of the led to the emmiter of the pnp tranny, then connect the collector to ground, a logic zero on the base of the tranny through a 10k resistor should light up the led, you need also to connect a diode like a

[neonixie-l] Re: Remedial Transistor Help

2012-01-18 Thread dr pepper
To get that to work properly you'd need to trannys, one pnp connected to the led and an npn switching ground to the base of the pnp, a trick I've used on nixie clocks to switch high temsion to common anodes. On 19 Jan, 04:39, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: On 1/18/12 9:29 PM, Thomas

[neonixie-l] New to the group.

2012-01-17 Thread dr pepper
Hi guys I'm new to the group, I have built a couple of clocks before, I'm working on a IN1 nixie clock with an OG4 dekatron and a IN9 neon bargraph (seconds) at the moment, it uses a software module for the pic micro to decode the msf time signal. All the electronics (well nearly all) and software

[neonixie-l] Re: ITS1A Thyratron Display (Old Topic Reintroduction)

2012-01-17 Thread dr pepper
I had to google thyratron as I never heard of them, not as display devices. Theres a couple of people built clocks with them, interesting devices made by the october plant. I'd like a couple of nimo's to add to my odd ball stuff. On 18 Jan, 04:41, Joseph Bento jos...@kirtland.com wrote: I came

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-17 Thread dr pepper
Heres a nice little circuit I found, you allready have the 141's in your display modules, so you just need to build the lower part of the circuit and graft it on. The circuit has seconds display, you obviously dont have the tubes for that, you could just construct the circuit and leave out the

[neonixie-l] Re: Homemade Nixie tubes project: Help with vacuum technology needed

2012-01-17 Thread dr pepper
Sorry to hijack a little, I was reading this very interesting thread and found something of interest to me. I like the induction heater, the simple design with 2 mosfets, I've been looking for a simple design like this for a while, my mrs makes jewellery and has been mithering for a ridiculously