Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] The right (and the wrong) way of handling module imports in oslo-incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 13/11/14 23:25 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: At the suggestion of Doug Hellmann, and relative to a conversation with him and Flavio at Summit. Doug suggested that I pose this question on the dev mailing list so someone from OSLO can communicate the answer to the entire community (rather than

[openstack-dev] 答复:horizon failed due to django compressor

2014-11-14 Thread gong_ys2004
ok, the reason seems to be pyscss version conflict problem:gongysh@localhost:/opt/stack/horizon$ python manage.py shell Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov 3 2014, 14:26:24) [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)] on linux2 Type help, copyright, credits or license for more information.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Is this fix introducing another different bug to dhcp-agent?

2014-11-14 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 THANKS A LOT! I hope this patch will get enough attention from core reviewers to give it a chance to arrive in 2014.2.1 Juno release that is scheduled the end of the month. /Ihar On 14/11/14 04:01, Xu Han Peng wrote: I opened a new bug and

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Soft Code Freeze for 6.0 in action!

2014-11-14 Thread Mike Scherbakov
Hi all, it is time to freeze with fixing Low and Medium bugs, as we entered to the SCF [1] phase. Like in 5.1, let's do an exception for those patches, which have at least one +1 in gerrit. If core reviewers think that such patches can be landed, let's merge. Otherwise - please move the bug to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Cinder] Baremetal volumes -- how to model direct attached storage

2014-11-14 Thread Chris Jones
Hi My thoughts: Shoe-horning the ephemeral partition into Cinder seems like a lot of pain for almost no gain[1]. The only gain I can think of would be that we could bring a node down, boot it into a special ramdisk that exposes the volume to the network, so cindery operations (e.g. migration)

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Supported (linux) distributions

2014-11-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Tony Breeds wrote: I'm looking for a description of which linux distributions we as developers expect to support openstack on. I haven't found anything that summerises this. It's because it's a two-way street: Linux distributions support OpenStack (mainly by packaging all OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Nominate Sergey Reshetniak to sahara-core

2014-11-14 Thread Sergey Lukjanov
Congrats! Welcome to the core team! On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Matthew Farrellee m...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/11/2014 12:35 PM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Hi folks, I'd like to propose Sergey to sahara-core. He's made a lot of work on different parts of Sahara and he has a very good

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable][nova] Doc build failure during backport

2014-11-14 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 14/11/14 02:36, Fei Long Wang wrote: Greetings, Recently, I'm working on fixing Nova evacuate bugs for RBD. And both the two patches have been merged in Kilo[1,2]. But during backporting them to Juno/Icehouse, one patch got a document build

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-14 Thread Matthew Booth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13/11/14 19:19, Dan Smith wrote: Unfortunately this model doesn't apply to Nova objects, which are persisted remotely. Unless I've missed something, SQLA doesn't run on Nova Compute at all. Instead, when Nova Compute calls object.save() this

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-14 Thread Matthew Booth
On 13/11/14 18:26, Mike Bayer wrote: On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:52 AM, Nikola Đipanov ndipa...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/13/2014 02:45 AM, Dan Smith wrote: I’m not sure if I’m seeing the second SELECT here either but I’m less familiar with what I’m looking at. compute_node_update() does the one

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] The right (and the wrong) way of handling module imports in oslo-incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 14/11/14 09:14, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/11/14 23:25 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: At the suggestion of Doug Hellmann, and relative to a conversation with him and Flavio at Summit. Doug suggested that I pose this question on the dev mailing

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] config options not correctly deprecated

2014-11-14 Thread Simon Pasquier
FYI, I've forwarded this thread to the operators mailing list as I feel they will be very much interested by this discussion. BR Simon On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 11/13/2014 06:56 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-11-13

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][libvirt] - 'nova reboot' causes console-log truncated

2014-11-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 01:55:06PM -0800, Surojit Pathak wrote: Hi all, [Issue observed] If we issue 'nova reboot server', we get to have the console output of the latest bootup of the server only. The console output of the previous boot for the same server vanishes due to truncation[1]. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] config options not correctly deprecated

2014-11-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 05:20:47PM -0600, Ben Nemec wrote: On 11/10/2014 05:00 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:45:02AM +, Derek Higgins wrote: Tl;dr oslo.config wasn't logging warnings about deprecated config options, do we need to support them for another

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] Organizational changes to support stable branches

2014-11-14 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 13/11/14 12:34, Thierry Carrez wrote: TL;DR: Every project should designate a Stable branch liaison. Hi everyone, Last week at the summit we discussed evolving the governance around stable branches, in order to maintain them more

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] config options not correctly deprecated

2014-11-14 Thread Derek Higgins
On 13/11/14 23:56, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-11-13 15:20:47 -0800: On 11/10/2014 05:00 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:45:02AM +, Derek Higgins wrote: Tl;dr oslo.config wasn't logging warnings about deprecated config options, do

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stale patches

2014-11-14 Thread Miguel Ángel Ajo
Thanks for cleaning up the house!, Best regards, Miguel Ángel Ajo On Friday, 14 de November de 2014 at 00:46, Salvatore Orlando wrote: There are a lot of neutron patches which, for different reasons, have not been updated in a while. In order to ensure reviewers focus on active patch, I

[openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hello folks in the past months Shari and I have implemented more chunks of the taxonomy developed for us by Katherine Cranford (a volunteer expert). Using categories in the wiki pages can help us create dynamic pages and keep information more visible, well organized and discoverable. For

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Separate horizon and openstack_dashboard

2014-11-14 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 11/11/14 09:30, Jiri Tomasek wrote: On 11/10/2014 12:19 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 01:13:48PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: Hi, tl;dr: how to progreed in separating horizon and openstack_dashboard About a year ago now we agreed, it makes sense to separate horizon and

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] security and swift multi-tenant fixes on stable branch

2014-11-14 Thread stuart . mclaren
On 2014-11-13 18:28:14 +0100 (+0100), Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] I think those who maintain glance_store module in downstream distributions will cherry-pick the security fix into their packages, so there is nothing to do in terms of stable branches to handle the security issue. [...] As a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] proposal: alternating weekly meeting time [doodle poll created]

2014-11-14 Thread Jaromir Coufal
On 12/11/14 02:45, Richard Jones wrote: I have set up a doodle poll to let folk enter their preferred times. It's in UTC/GMT (/London time, because doodle) so use something like http://everytimezone.com/ to figure that out :) https://doodle.com/47h3f35nad62ncnf Richard Quick Question:

[openstack-dev] [Fuel] Failed upgrade chain - 5.1 - 5.1.1 - 6.0

2014-11-14 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Hi folks, Yesterday I performed the following upgrade chain: 5.1 - 5.1.1 - 6.0 and upgrading to 6.0 was failed. I did some research and figure out that Nailgun's container doesn't have Nailgun at all. So here's what happened. 1. When we're upgrading to 6.0 we already have three repos in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Failed upgrade chain - 5.1 - 5.1.1 - 6.0

2014-11-14 Thread Matthew Mosesohn
Igor, I'm trying to figure out where the failure is. The 5.1.1 and 6.0 prebuilt containers contain the correct version of nailgun RPM pre-installed. It shouldn't matter if the versions are identical (which is a problem for sure). Can you open a bug and post upgrade logs? I'm interested to see

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Richard Jones
I think that it boils down to whether it'is possible that distributions: 1. package the node-based tools (grunt, karma, protractor, ...) as installable programs, and 2. xstatic-package the bower-based packages that we use (probably a couple of dozen at least). We might even be able to get away

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] proposal: alternating weekly meeting time [doodle poll created]

2014-11-14 Thread Richard Jones
I did it that way so that the form wouldn't blow out completely, and I thought for our purposes of scheduling a 2 hour precision would be good enough. On 14 November 2014 22:32, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: On 12/11/14 02:45, Richard Jones wrote: I have set up a doodle poll to let

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks Maruti, I have some comments and questions which I've posted on gerrit. There are two things I would like to discuss on the mailing list concerning this effort. 1) Is this spec replacing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100278 and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93613 - I hope so,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Failed upgrade chain - 5.1 - 5.1.1 - 6.0

2014-11-14 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Mat, I've filed a bug [1] and provide you a puppet output inside Nailgun container [2]. If I remove /etc/yum.repos.d/5.1.1_nailgun - the puppet works fine. [1]:https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1392698 [2]: http://xsnippet.org/360279/raw/ Thanks, Igor On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:51 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Failed upgrade chain - 5.1 - 5.1.1 - 6.0

2014-11-14 Thread Daniele Pizzolli
Igor Kalnitsky ikalnit...@mirantis.com writes: Mat, I've filed a bug [1] and provide you a puppet output inside Nailgun container [2]. If I remove /etc/yum.repos.d/5.1.1_nailgun - the puppet works fine. [1]:https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1392698 [2]: http://xsnippet.org/360279/raw/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Matthias Runge
On 13/11/14 21:11, Matthew Farina wrote: I would like to take a moment to point out that developing system software is different from developing web applications. The way systems software is developed and often deployed is different from web applications. Horizon as it sits today appears to

Re: [openstack-dev] [sahara] Nominate Michael McCune to sahara-core

2014-11-14 Thread michael mccune
On 11/14/2014 03:55 AM, Sergey Lukjanov wrote: Congrats! Welcome to the core team! thanks =) mike ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Matthias Runge
On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you can be assured that there is no man in the middle. Security wise npm (and pip) are about ~95% (mad up numbers, but you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:48 AM, Matthias Runge mru...@redhat.com wrote: On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you can be assured that there is no man in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/14/2014 06:30 AM, Martin Geisler wrote: That is, I think Horizon developers will use these tools to produce a release -- a tarball -- and that tarball will be something you unpack on your webserver and then you're done. I base this on what I've seen in the project I've been working. The

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-14 Thread Evgeniy L
Hi, There was an idea to make a separate code freeze for repos Could you please clarify what do you mean? I think we should have a way to merge patches for the next release event if it's code freeze for the current. Thanks, On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Vitaly Kramskikh

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] Organizational changes to support stable branches

2014-11-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: On 13/11/14 12:34, Thierry Carrez wrote: 1. We propose that integrated projects with stable branches designate a formal Stable Branch Liaison (by default, that would be the PTL, but I strongly encourage someone specifically interested in stable branches to step up). The

Re: [openstack-dev] improving PyPi modules design FHS (was: the future of angularjs development in Horizon)

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 06:40 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: Sure! That's how I do most of my Python modules these days. I don't just create them from scratch, I use my own debpypi script, which generates a template for packaging. But it

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Thierry Carrez
Stefano Maffulli wrote: [...] Category pages are just like any other wiki page: they can have text, images, can be edited, translated etc. And they automatically show the pages contained in their category. As an example, see how the dynamic page for Programs

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-14 Thread Vitaly Kramskikh
Evgeniy, That means that the stable branch can be created for some repos earlier. For example, fuel-web repo seems not to have critical issues for now and I'd like master branch of that repo to be opened for merging various stuff which shouldn't go to 6.0 and do not wait until all other repos

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] The right (and the wrong) way of handling module imports in oslo-incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Jay S. Bryant
On 11/14/2014 03:31 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 14/11/14 09:14, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/11/14 23:25 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: At the suggestion of Doug Hellmann, and relative to a conversation with him and Flavio at Summit. Doug

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 14/11/14 13:02, Richard Jones wrote: On 14 November 2014 18:51, Radomir Dopieralski openst...@sheep.art.pl mailto:openst...@sheep.art.pl wrote: On 13/11/14 23:30, Martin Geisler wrote: [...] Maybe a difference is that you don't (yet) install a web application like you

Re: [openstack-dev] improving PyPi modules design FHS (was: the future of angularjs development in Horizon)

2014-11-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 08:44:24AM -0500, Donald Stufft wrote: On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 06:40 AM, Donald Stufft wrote: [okay, well, actually Thomas Goirand wrote:] No, that's for arch independent *things*. Like for example,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/11/2014 03:02 PM, Richard Jones wrote: json3 es5-shim angular angular-route angular-cookies angular-animate angular-sanitize angular-smart-table angular-local-storage angular-bootstrap angular-translate font-awesome boot

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Cinder] Baremetal volumes -- how to model direct attached storage

2014-11-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Chris Jones's message of 2014-11-14 00:42:48 -0800: Hi My thoughts: Shoe-horning the ephemeral partition into Cinder seems like a lot of pain for almost no gain[1]. The only gain I can think of would be that we could bring a node down, boot it into a special ramdisk that

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][devstack] CI failed The plugin token_endpoint could not be found

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-14 00:34:14 -0500 (-0500), Wan, Sam wrote: Seems we need to use python-keystoneclient and python-openstackclient from git.openstack.org  because those on pip don’t work. That's a bug we're (collectively) trying to prevent in the future. Services, even under development, should not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Martin Geisler
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: On 11/14/2014 06:30 AM, Martin Geisler wrote: That is, I think Horizon developers will use these tools to produce a release -- a tarball -- and that tarball will be something you unpack on your webserver and then you're done. I base this on what I've

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-14 Thread Igor Kalnitsky
Guys, The idea of separate unfreezing is cool itself, but we have to define some rules how to define that fuel-web is stable. I mean, in fuel-web we have different projects, so when Fuel UI is stable, the fuel_upgrade or Nailgun may be not. - Igor On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Vitaly

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-14 15:10:59 +0100 (+0100), Martin Geisler wrote: [...] That's not what I said: the OpenStack developers will continue to tests the software. I personally don't think it's the job of the downstream packagers to do this QA work. (It's of course cool to run the tests on the system

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Separate code freeze for repos

2014-11-14 Thread Vitaly Kramskikh
There is a proposal to consider a repo as stable if there are no high/critical bugs and there were no such new bugs with this priority for the last 3 days. I'm ok with it. 2014-11-14 17:16 GMT+03:00 Igor Kalnitsky ikalnit...@mirantis.com: Guys, The idea of separate unfreezing is cool itself,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-14 08:31:37 -0500 (-0500), Donald Stufft wrote: [...] with TLS you depend on the web server to not be compromised [...] Or in some cases, the CDN. ;) -- Jeremy Stanley ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Mathieu Rohon
Hi, As far as I understood last friday afternoon dicussions during the design summit, this use case is in the scope of another umbrella spec which would define external connectivity for neutron networks. Details of those connectivity would be defined through service plugin API. Ian do you plan

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][kite] oslo.messaging changes for message security

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 13, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Jamie Lennox jamielen...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, To implement kite we need the ability to sign and encrypt the message and the message data. This needs to happen at a very low level in the oslo.messaging stack. The existing message security review

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-14 Thread Dan Smith
I don't think it's a problem. It puts a practical limit on the scope of an 'api call' which can be covered by a single database transaction though, because it would be difficult to arrange for 2 RPC calls to both use the same DB transaction on the remote end. I think we agree on this. Sure,

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Igor Cardoso
Hello all, Also, what about Kevin's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/87825/? One of its use cases is exactly the L2 gateway. These proposals could probably be inserted in a more generic work for moving existing datacenter L2 resources to Neutron. Cheers, On 14 November 2014 15:28, Mathieu Rohon

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] The right (and the wrong) way of handling module imports in oslo-incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 14, 2014, at 4:31 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote: Signed PGP part On 14/11/14 09:14, Flavio Percoco wrote: On 13/11/14 23:25 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: At the suggestion of Doug Hellmann, and relative to a conversation with him and Flavio at Summit. Doug suggested

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] The right (and the wrong) way of handling module imports in oslo-incubator

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 14, 2014, at 3:14 AM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 13/11/14 23:25 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: At the suggestion of Doug Hellmann, and relative to a conversation with him and Flavio at Summit. Doug suggested that I pose this question on the dev mailing list so someone

[openstack-dev] [oslo] updated release instructions

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
Last cycle Thierry put together a tool to make releasing Oslo libraries easier for us. Using the tool will ensure that all of our releases are tracked consistently, but it’s going to mean a few procedural changes for us in launchpad, especially with the way we use milestones. I’ve updated

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Adam Young
On 11/14/2014 09:05 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: That's a reasonable amount of work. Multiply this by 2 for the xstatic packages (if we keep using that), that's about 14 new packages. By the way, can't we use libjs-sockjs instead of ng-websocket? Last, I'm ok if we add all these, but please,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] LeastNetwork scheduling for DHCP

2014-11-14 Thread GRASSART Benjamin
Hi all, I would definitely be glad to work on the subject as well. However I am not sure to understand fully Armando last remark in our change. I will try to discuss it with him on IRC. Regards, Benjamin GRASSART [@@ THALES GROUP INTERNAL @@] De : S M, Praveen Kumar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Separate horizon and openstack_dashboard

2014-11-14 Thread Wood, Matthew David (HP Cloud - Horizon)
On 11/14/14, 4:24 AM, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/11/14 09:30, Jiri Tomasek wrote: On 11/10/2014 12:19 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 01:13:48PM +0100, Matthias Runge wrote: Hi, tl;dr: how to progreed in separating horizon and openstack_dashboard

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] security and swift multi-tenant fixes on stable branch

2014-11-14 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 14/11/14 11:25 +, stuart.mcla...@hp.com wrote: On 2014-11-13 18:28:14 +0100 (+0100), Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] I think those who maintain glance_store module in downstream distributions will cherry-pick the security fix into their packages, so there is nothing to do in terms of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Consistency, efficiency, and safety of NovaObject.save()

2014-11-14 Thread Matthew Booth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/11/14 14:40, Dan Smith wrote: I don't think it's a problem. It puts a practical limit on the scope of an 'api call' which can be covered by a single database transaction though, because it would be difficult to arrange for 2 RPC calls to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Ironic] [Cinder] Baremetal volumes -- how to model direct attached storage

2014-11-14 Thread Josh Gachnang
For decom (now zapping), I'm building it with config flags to either disable it entirely, or just disable the erase_disks steps. No comment on the daft bit :) But I do understand why you'd want to do it this way. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102685/ On Fri Nov 14 2014 at 6:14:13 AM Clint

[openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence-poc status

2014-11-14 Thread Murugan, Visnusaran
Hi All, Latest convergence-poc code is available [1] Reason for this fork was to avoid constant rebase. Wiki [2] also has been updated to reflect latest changes/deviations. One prominent deviation from convergence-blueprint is that observer and workers are not separate operating system

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][devstack] CI failed The plugin token_endpoint could not be found

2014-11-14 Thread gordon chung
just an fyi, i had same issue. i 'pip uninstall'ed all the python-*clients and it worked fine... i assume it's something to do with master (as i had it configured previously) since devstack seems to pull in pypi version. cheers, gord

[openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-14 Thread Everett Toews
Hello PTLs of Ceilometer, Heat, Horizon, and Trove, The purpose of the API Working Group [1] is to propose, discuss, review, and advocate for API guidelines for all OpenStack Programs to follow. We’re seeking API subject matter experts and a cross-project liaison [2] for each project to

[openstack-dev] [nova] mapping of hypervisor support matrix to driver functions - agenda?

2014-11-14 Thread Markus Zoeller
In preparation to the blueprint libvirt-kvm-systemz [1] we made an analysis of the mapping of the driver functions to the hypervisor support matrix features [2]. We could provide that information for the wiki page. Should we discuss that up front in a nova meeting? [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][devstack] CI failed The plugin token_endpoint could not be found

2014-11-14 Thread Sean Dague
On 11/14/2014 09:09 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2014-11-14 00:34:14 -0500 (-0500), Wan, Sam wrote: Seems we need to use python-keystoneclient and python-openstackclient from git.openstack.org because those on pip don’t work. That's a bug we're (collectively) trying to prevent in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] mapping of hypervisor support matrix to driver functions - agenda?

2014-11-14 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 05:26:44PM +0100, Markus Zoeller wrote: In preparation to the blueprint libvirt-kvm-systemz [1] we made an analysis of the mapping of the driver functions to the hypervisor support matrix features [2]. We could provide that information for the wiki page. Should we

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] config options not correctly deprecated

2014-11-14 Thread Ben Nemec
On 11/13/2014 05:56 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-11-13 15:20:47 -0800: On 11/10/2014 05:00 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:45:02AM +, Derek Higgins wrote: Tl;dr oslo.config wasn't logging warnings about deprecated config

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Thanks guys. I think you've answered my initial question. Probably not in the way I was hoping it to be answered, but it's ok. So now we have potentially 4 different blueprint describing more or less overlapping use cases that we need to reconcile into one? If the above is correct, then I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] config options not correctly deprecated

2014-11-14 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2014 06:37 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 11/13/2014 06:56 PM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ben Nemec's message of 2014-11-13 15:20:47 -0800: On 11/10/2014 05:00 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:45:02AM +, Derek

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Hi Salvatore, Thanks for the review comments on the BP. Yes, Maruti’s BP supersedes the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100278 posted by Isaku, and we discussed with Isaku during the summit to embrace his BP. For the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/93613 by Racha , we

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Graduating oslo-incubator/reports

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Doug et all, I would like to get the ball rolling on graduating oslo-incubator/reports into oslo.reports. What do I have to do on my end to move forward with the graduation process? We need a spec filled out using the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Graduating oslo-incubator/reports

2014-11-14 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Nov 14, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote: On Nov 12, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Solly Ross sr...@redhat.com wrote: Hello Doug et all, I would like to get the ball rolling on graduating oslo-incubator/reports into oslo.reports. What do I have to do on my end to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Separate horizon and openstack_dashboard

2014-11-14 Thread Julie Pichon
On 14/11/14 15:46, Wood, Matthew David (HP Cloud - Horizon) wrote: On 11/14/14, 4:24 AM, Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: My opinion and preference: * horizon_lib (framework) + horizon (UI) I agree with both the concept behind these names and the name selections given here. People

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] L2 gateway as a service

2014-11-14 Thread Armando M.
Last Friday I recall we had two discussions around this topic. One in the morning, which I think led to Maruti to push [1]. The way I understood [1] was that it is an attempt at unifying [2] and [3], by choosing the API approach of one and the architectural approach of the other. [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 11/14/2014 02:50 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: In this precise example, I feel like the dynamic page is much less usable than the static page, due to the deep hierarchy. Got it. The current taxonomy is trying to map precisely the hierarchy of Program-Projects-Teams therefore it keeps the Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-14 18:57:13 +0100 (+0100), Stefano Maffulli wrote: [...] I'll put more complex changes like this one on hold until the governance site is live. Which, incidentally, is awaiting https://review.openstack.org/132466 plus any change to merge in the governance repository now that the

Re: [openstack-dev] LTFS integration with OpenStack Swift for scenario like - Data Archival as a Service .

2014-11-14 Thread Samuel Merritt
On 11/13/14, 10:19 PM, Sachin Goswami wrote: In OpenStack Swift - xfs file system is integrated which provides a maximum file system size of 8 exbibytes minus one byte (263-1 bytes). Not exactly. The Swift storage nodes keep their data on POSIX filesystems with support for extended

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/14/2014 08:48 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you can be assured that there is no man in the middle. Security wise npm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/14/2014 09:58 PM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: On 14/11/14 13:02, Richard Jones wrote: We might even be able to get away without using grunt, though an alternative to its LiveReload facility (and one that doesn't then also depend on another node program like django-livereload does) would

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] v2 or v3 for new api

2014-11-14 Thread Chris Buccella
Do you have a blueprint for the new feature? If you want it accepted upstream, you'll need a blueprint and spec: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Blueprints#Spec_.2B_Blueprints_lifecycle On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Pasquale Porreca pasquale.porr...@dektech.com.au wrote: Hello I am

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/14/2014 10:10 PM, Martin Geisler wrote: Of course, I need to run tests. That's a big part of the QA work, and I will certainly not give-up on that. You will have a hard time convincing anyone within the OpenStack community that it's OK to not run unit tests. That's not what I said: the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 11/14/2014 08:48 PM, Matthias Runge wrote: On 13/11/14 19:11, Donald Stufft wrote: As far as I’m aware npm supports TLS the same as pip does. That secures the transport between the end users and the repository so you

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-15 02:57:15 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] Do you realize that with the TLS system, you have to trust every and all CA, while with PGP, you only need to trust a single fingerprint? [...] Technically not true *if* the package retrieval tools implement certificate pinning

Re: [openstack-dev] TC election by the numbers

2014-11-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
This, It's certainly not a fun thing to do (trying to guide a community of disjoint folks) and it likely comes with little recognition when successful, but IMHO we surely need more of this active technical leadership vs. blessing of projects; of course the boundary between being a engaging

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] LeastNetwork scheduling for DHCP

2014-11-14 Thread Armando M.
Benjamin, Feel free to reach out. If you are referring to my -2, that was just provisional. Before we can go ahead and see an improved scheduling capability for DHCP, you guys need to resolve the conflict between the overlapping blueprints, working together or giving up one in favor on the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Donald Stufft
On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2014-11-15 02:57:15 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] Do you realize that with the TLS system, you have to trust every and all CA, while with PGP, you only need to trust a single fingerprint? [...]

Re: [openstack-dev] LTFS integration with OpenStack Swift for scenario like - Data Archival as a Service .

2014-11-14 Thread Tim Bell
There were some discussions over the past years. I raised the question of Swift tape support in my keynote in Boston in 2011 (http://www.slideshare.net/noggin143/cern-user-story) but there was limited interest. LTFS makes it more likely but we should not underestimate the challenges. Ensuring

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sounds like this is tooz[1] ;) The api for tooz (soon to be an oslo library @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122439/) is around coordination and 'service-group' like behavior so I hope we don't have duplicates of this in 'oslo.healthcheck' instead of just using/contributing to tooz instead.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sounds like this is tooz[1] ;) The api for tooz (soon to be an oslo library @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122439/) is around coordination and 'service-group' like behavior so I hope we don't have duplicates of this in 'oslo.healthcheck' instead of just using/contributing to tooz instead.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
Sounds like this is tooz[1] ;) The api for tooz (soon to be an oslo library @ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122439/) is around coordination and 'service-group' like behavior so I hope we don't have duplicates of this in 'oslo.healthcheck' instead of just using/contributing to tooz instead.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Rochelle Grober
Thank you Stefano (and Shari and Katherine)! I think this will help. Is there a way to add new categories? I expect that as people start using this, more categories will be requested. And, is there a wiki page where this info is hosted? --Rocky -Original Message- From: Stefano

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] A more dynamic wiki, introducing Categories

2014-11-14 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-11-14 20:04:33 + (+), Rochelle Grober wrote: [...] Is there a way to add new categories? I expect that as people start using this, more categories will be requested. [...] Categories emerge automatically as you tag pages into them. No separate category creation step is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Using Job Queues for timeout ops

2014-11-14 Thread Joshua Harlow
Arg, sorry for the spam, mail.app was still trying to send it multiple times for some reason... -Josh From: Joshua Harlow harlo...@outlook.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:45 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] Support LVM on a shared LU

2014-11-14 Thread Mitsuhiro Tanino
Hello, Duncan, Mike, 11:13 (DuncanT) DuncanT mtanino, You can and should submit the code even if the spec isn't approved as long as it isn't looking contentious, but I will certainly take a look Base on the comment at cinder__unofficial_meeting at Wednesday, I posted both updated cinder-spec

Re: [openstack-dev] [api] Cross-Project Liaison for the API Working Group

2014-11-14 Thread Everett Toews
On Nov 14, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/14/2014 05:13 PM, Everett Toews wrote: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project, but does not need to be the PTL. By default, the liaison will be the PTL. ]Anyway, the outcome of the email exchange with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] the future of angularjs development in Horizon

2014-11-14 Thread Matthias Runge
On 14/11/14 16:21, Adam Young wrote: Example: I don't need Grunt to run a web server. I need Apache for that. Grunt does not need to be in the distro, mod_wsgi does. I will need every tool required to run e.g. unit tests or selenium tests to be packaged. Why? Because our builders don't have

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] [nova] Consistency groups?

2014-11-14 Thread yang, xing
Hi Phil, Do you have a libvirt volume driver on the Nova side for DRBD? Regarding getting consistency group information to the Nova nodes, can you help me understand the steps you need to go through? 1. Create a consistency group 2. Create a volume and add volume to the group Repeat the

Re: [openstack-dev] LTFS integration with OpenStack Swift for scenario like - Data Archival as a Service .

2014-11-14 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Samuel Merritt's message of 2014-11-14 10:06:53 -0800: On 11/13/14, 10:19 PM, Sachin Goswami wrote: In OpenStack Swift - xfs file system is integrated which provides a maximum file system size of 8 exbibytes minus one byte (263-1 bytes). Not exactly. The Swift storage nodes

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