The proper question is:
Does the phone of your interest use it ?
If yes, Osmand uses it as well, not being even aware of it.
If not, then not.
GPS Android applications rely on Android OS location service calls. The
hardware and communication protocols behind that are hidden for them.
Dne 11.
No, I just say the paid version of all purpose application should it have
included.
The question is, is it all purpose application usable for car navigation,
or, is it a car navigation app with all purpose features ?
For the former, I may be right,
for the latter, you may be right .
Who does n
Speaking just for myself, I think a good procedure is
1/ Check at GitHub, if a similar request is already open.
2/ if yes, add there eventually your comments.
3/ if not, discuss it first here,
if the community thinks
it could be a useful idea,
not too difficult to implement
and interesting
I do not use Osmand much these days,
using LocusMap Pro + BRouter,
with Locus pronouncing BRouter navigation hints for Locus.
AFAIK OsmAnd does have the voice navigation guidance system to use it
for its native routes,
or to follow we the navigation hints for Osmand
embedded in imported BRouter r
Try to search the Google group history, it was described in details
multiple times.
In short,
1) download from OsmAnd site the .APK installation file for your OsmAnd+
version
2) optionally rename it to .ZIP
3) open the archive and extract from it routing.xml file
4) edit the coefficient there
ewayAware="true" heuristicCoefficient="1.4">
(or some value between 1.2 and 1.4)
4) save it to the OsmAnd data folder
Harry
Op vr 29 mrt. 2019 om 19:44 schreef Helmut Jarausch :
Thanks for the tip!
Poutnik Fornntp schrieb am Fr., 29. März 2019, 11:12:
Try to searc
The best route does not exist. More exactly, there is almost as many best
routes as is the number of the different criteria how to evaluate routes.
Therefore one cannot expect OsmAnd best route must match your best route.
I will not speak about speed of route calculation, that has a lot of spac
Note that BRouter uses in the 2nd pass the coefficient 1.0 as well, but at
least with cutoff function, using the draft route cost from the 1st pass as
the threshold to cut off many nodes the original A-star has to hold in memory.
OTOH, the 1st pass can use quite high values, 1.5-1.8 to determine
Try to change the one in the line 6, that may override the one in the car
profile.
Dne 13. dubna 2019 14:54:48 Harald Kosian napsal:
Hello,
didn't succeed ... Copied routing.xml from the apk-file, edited the entry
on line 375 to:
minDefaultSpeed="45.0" maxDefaultSpeed="130.0" leftTurn="5"
OsmAnd is focused on offline usage of maps, and navigation, even if using
some online maps and some 3rd party online navigation services is possible.
As mainly offline application, it does not (currently) provide real time
traffic information.
Most online based car navigations use fast online
Note also if one installs termux, a very good Linux terminal emulator, one
can write wget or curl based Bash scripts for direct download to the final
Android placement, optionally skipping downloads if no update is available,
or if local files are not older than chosen threshold.
Note that it
Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
Note also if one installs termux, a very good Linux terminal emulator, one
can write wget or curl based Bash scripts for direct download to the final
Android placement, optionally skipping downloads if no update is available,
or if local files are not older than chosen
I use just
wget -N URL
for http and https.
In fact, I already forgot what -N means :-)
Dne 13. června 2019 22:16:12 Peter Kaiser napsal:
How would you do this with curl or wget? I don't seem to be able to find
the magic.
curl 7.64.1 (x86_64-pc-win32) libcurl/7.64.1 OpenSSL/1.1.1b (Schannel)
Ah, I see, it turns on Time stamping.
I use it to prevent redownloading not updated file, or for not downloading
of not too old file.
Dne 14. června 2019 4:59:00 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
I use just
wget -N URL
for http and https.
In fact, I already forgot what -N means :-)
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Does the issue happen if the mobile data have not been recently available
nor used during GPS usage ?
In such a case, GPS fix without help of internet based aGPS data may take
minutes.
But generally , it is matter of the hardware/firmware and Android.
OSMAnd just uses Android location servic
It may be possible the faster device has more CPU cores, but its single
core is slower and the time critical process is running in a single thread
on a single core.
Another option is, the computation speed is limited by intensive data
manipulation and the device with slower CPU has faster dat
But is not it rather funny, as the effective result is the same, sharing
the data ?
Dne 25. září 2019 22:51:39 Martin Trautmann napsal:
In which countries is possession illegal?
In Germany the usage is illegal - but for the driver only. The co-driver
might use it.
Schönen Gruß
Martin
Dne 27. září 2019 9:54:15 Martin Trautmann napsal:
So how about cars which can go faster than the actual speed limit. Does
this also encourage to disobey the law!?
Comparing to those that cannot
... yes, they do.
E.g. I am not tempted to go faster than 50 km/h city limit on my bike.
Hmm, AFAIK, it is a Google group, with optionally used mail list
functionality,
like some others, e.g the BRouter group.
The mail list functionality had to be explicitly activated, not sure if on
the group or the account level.
Dne 12. března 2020 5:14:34 A Thompson napsal:
Aaargh. I meant o
Aside of that,
requirement of the X account
for participation on X environment
is fully normal, common and generally accepted.
Why should be X=Google an exception ?
Dne 12. března 2020 14:22:29 "'ra' via OsmAnd"
napsal:
you must know, writing from your google account.
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Yes, it is right, and applies for BRouter routing as well.
The longer the route is, and the more complex the network is, the less is
probability of missing the optimal route with HR > 1.
1.2-1.3 is the typical geometry factor
route-distance / bee-line-distance
The critical HR factor is the ab
The 2 step may work very similarly as the BRouter 2 step routing.
The 1st step may use quite a high HC ( originally 1.5, I use often up to
1.8 ) to get quick rough estimation of the total cost of the optimal route.
It can be quite high, until time gain for fast 1st step is paid by slower
2nd s
Then you know also the answers to your questions. :), perhaps without
realising that.
Yes, it does keep track of already determined costs/routes during routing.
The problem is, the classical A* has enormous memory demand for long
routes, growing quadratically with the route distance.
That is
P.S.: In case of BRouter, one can use 1 pass routing as well, but then the
HC must be more conservative than for the 1st pass of 2-pass routing.
Dne 16. března 2020 19:40:19 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
Then you know also the answers to your questions. :), perhaps without
realising that.
Yes, it
knows, if a particular partial route in the 2nd pass is worse than
that, it cannot be the optimal one and is thrown away.
Dne 16. března 2020 19:40:19 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
Yes, it does keep track of already determined costs/routes during routing.
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P.S.: Technically speaking, not sure about the OSMand 2nd pass, but the
BRouter 2nd pass is not A* based like the 1st pass, but it is the plain
Dijkstra with the cut off feature.
It is functionally almost equivalent to 1-pass A* with HC=1.0, with the
difference A* uses no route elimination, w
Time needed to calculate the route grows in average quadratically with
distance , for both OSMAnd and BRouter. Brouter may use more resource
serving algorithm and data.
Online routing services use very different algorithms.
OSMAnd and BRouter use modifications of A-star algorithm, which is sl
Slow does not mean bad. Open projects with low budget do not have
computation power to preprocess the maps of the World.
OSMAnd and BRouter ( not BRoute nor BRout ) are fast enough for city
navigation. Plus their maps have superior details.
Advantage of contraction hierarchy comes rather for
Well, Lodro, you like arguments. The others just react on your bait.
OSMAnd, Locus, BRouter serve different purposes
than Google Maps, Waze, TomTom etc.
Each group is superior to the other in what it is focused to. Speed is both
strength and weakness.
If your prefer the latter group, use it.
o all non-native english speakers
here (I am one of them).
But please stop now. Let's leave it at this and stay on topic.
Kind regards,
Harry
Op do 26 mrt. 2020 om 03:32 schreef Poutnik Fornntp :
Well, Lodro, you like arguments. The others just react on your bait.
OSMAnd, Locus, BRo
But the point is, the project is open source, maintained on GitHub.
Interested skilled users contribute at will.
Dne 26. března 2020 18:47:06 Lodro Gyamtso napsal:
1. when we visit this page
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand&hl=en
we can found " Additional Information "
In many areas, not limited to routing, speed can be also a weakness. Not
necessarily the speed itself, but things leading to high speed.
It is like a half-joke about software usability:
It can be free, easy, but not powerful.
It can be free, powerful, but not easy.
It can be powerful, easy, but
on of LocusMap+BRouter combo,
for car using Waze, MapsFactor Navigator of OSMAnd.
Dne 27. března 2020 16:11:18 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
..
In domain of routing, it sacrifices routing flexibility and puts on high
load the provider resources.
And that is why it is good to have both high and low
There are bicycle and foot routes longer than 1000 km, when OSMand or
BRouter is used to calculate the route.
Personally, for trips shorter then 400 km I use intermediate viapoints for
true viapoints, or for route shaping, not to make things easy for the
algorithm. There is also much more de
HC=1.0 is the only value that guarantee finding the optimal route by A*
algorithm, according given criteria. Higher values can provide for short
distances a/o trivial road network geometry
surprisingly wrong results.
By statistical evaluation, length of long enough routes is typically
1.2-1.3
Similarly, Voice only bicycle BRouter navigation is great. I use it in
Locus, but it is applicable for OSMAnd as well if following GPX route
generated by BRouter/BRouter Web for OSMand.
Dne 29. března 2020 12:46:14 Helmut Jarausch napsal:
With OSMAnds (relatively) new feature to turn the scree
Tha ability to import XML file into the custom navigation profiles is
great, I was not aware of it until recently.
Dne 28. března 2020 11:46:11 Harry van der Wolf napsal:
Like I have stated before: Use a different profile with a different
heuristic coefficient(See .xmls attached).
In another
One of the options is LocusMap application.
Dne 7. května 2020 13:52:02 Shailang kharsati napsal:
Is it possible to calculate area of a track .?
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One of possible options is to Install BRouter application or usage BRouter
web http://brouter.de/BRouter-web/ and to generate GPX by them. The is a
feature to include waypoints with navigation hints for OSMAnd, so OSMand is
able to produce visual/voice turning instructions on real crossroads,
j
sample of such GPX, generated for OSMAnd by BRouter
application near the border of the city of Brno ( Moravia, Czech Republic,
Europe )
Dne 11. května 2020 5:48:16 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
One of possible options is to Install BRouter application or usage BRouter
web http://brouter.de/BRouter
You may then want to try GPX files generated for OSMand by BRouter ( =
bicycle Router ).
With LocusMap, it is easily done in the application, as it communicate with
the local BRouter application via API.
OSMAnd does not support BRouter navigation hints through API interface yet
( AFAIK ), so
Personally, I do the same, but having a phone in by jersey back pocket.
I use LocusMap, so I can plan the route directly in the application route
planner or just set the destination using local offline BRouter routing
provider, without intermediate GPX file ( that can be used as well )
Dne 2.
One more reason to use recorded track merely just for indpiration.
The best way is probably side2side displaying of the original track in some
gpx viewer and the track generated interactively by BRouter-web with just
few route shaping points.
It can be done quickly by setting the route start
Good luck, as you may not know,
what you ask for.
Try issues section in the osmandapp/OSMAnd repository on GitHub.
But you need an account there.
Dne 11. června 2020 8:30:31 Erez Nahum napsal:
Hi,
Thanks.
This is why I thought it worst adding to OsmAnd next turn feature option to
track colo
You may try BRouter.de/BRouter-web/ with routing profile trekking (bike) or
hiking-beta (foot) .
After interactive route creation along OSM highways of interest, you can
review routing related way tags in the table, eventually even export them
into CSV file.
Dne 14. června 2020 17:40:16 Fran
This can be done on a phone as well, as the BRouter web is phone friendly.
Take it then as an alternative.
Dne 14. června 2020 18:36:05 Francesco Puccettone
napsal:
Thanks for your suggestion! I already know how to find out route type on a
desktop computer (e.g. via 'query features', as I men
Generally, I rather recommend to stop considering short/fast modes as
short/fast,
but as mode1 and mode2, e.g. as a challenging and easy modes, or whatever
suits your cases.
Dne 19. června 2020 15:14:38 Poutnik napsal:
Note the shortest is a foot profile, not suitable for vehicles, while
tr
It is even possibly to apply negative turncost, preferring routes with more
winding roads.
I have once created such a highly experimental profile for a motorbike owner,
who had said straight roads are boring.
Dne 6. července 2020 11:47:04 Uwe Mock napsal:
I uninstalled all the "World" maps and
You can still map OSMAnd transportation modes to BRouter profiles on
BRouter application level.
Dne 23. července 2020 17:47:19 R Adolph napsal:
Yes, I know that, but it doesnt help with BRouter. BRouter takes OSMand's
base profile that was used to create that OSMand profile you are using
(bik
Is there anything in OSM saying it is accessible ?
Dne 10. srpna 2020 3:11:52 A Thompson napsal:
.
It has a barrier=gate at the start of its service road, but nothing in OSM
to say that it is inaccessible .
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As an author of BRouter bike profiles, regarding access issues and
fallbacks to foot access, the optimal approach is a balanced trade off:
What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect disabling access and
what is the impact ?
What is the probability of (effectively ) incorrect allowing
It should be compared by the time for both activities, including
mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies.
2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes.
Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would be
boring.
Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:01:34 Greg Troxel napsal:
sort
:
Poutnik Fornntp writes:
It should be compared by the time for both activities, including
mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies.
2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes.
Waiting above the steps for cycling mates for almost 15 minutes would
be boring.
The proper metric for routing is a hard
.
Dne 10. srpna 2020 15:49:32 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
You have not understood me correctly.
Preferences should indeed be included, like for push penalties still
preferring riding at the same time.
But penalization should not be overdone.
It applies to any penalties, like unpaved surface.
Dne 10
2020 15:31:24 Florian Lohoff napsal:
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 03:11:33PM +0200, Poutnik Fornntp wrote:
It should be compared by the time for both activities, including
mounting/unmounting, and eventually relaxing if applies.
2-5 km is typically 6-15 minutes.
Waiting above the steps for cycling
If one uses BRouter as the 3rd party routing service, it provides
navigation hints based on true crossings/junctions.
The downside is, the current OsmAnd router API doesn't ( or did not )
support the Brouter hints, so they are available only if the route is
generated by BRouter application or
Check, if the roads and their connections are mapped OK in OSM.
The easiest way is probably generating the route by other software using
OSM data. You may try e.g. http://brouter.de/BRouter-web/
Dne 23. listopadu 2020 5:47:38 Mark Howard napsal:
Newbie question:
I have a new re-install of O
It may be a problem, if there is a bug in the algorithm. Or, it may be the
result of different algorithm priorities, comparing OSM routing and OsmAnd
routing. Or, difference between algorithm and human priorities.
Another factor is that OSM data do not reflect all aspects leading to real
route
Nothing beats the visual analyzator of graphical data representation.
Even if there were all needed data, user would not know, what exactly to
search for in the direct navigation to found given location.
Personally, as my general navigation approach , I use location search just
to show me the
seem to recall
subways with multiple exits last time I was there.
I think using nodes that are there already and connected to the sidewalk
would make more sense. I could of course fire up JOSM on a laptop and do a
visual look at the raw data.
Thanks John
Poutnik Fornntp wrote on 2020-11-25 11
It is an issue to know in advance,
what a user will search for
if he has no idea what to search for.
Dne 25. listopadu 2020 20:55:07 john whelan napsal:
And that is the issue finding or adding a tag that I can search for in OSMAND.
Cheerio John
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 14:01 Poutnik Fornntp
Hi,
First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the data
source for OsmAnd ),
if the affected roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to reality.
As OsmAnd and all applications relying on OSM knows only the reality mapped
there.
It may be the case the road surf
ly).
And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug.
Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:
Hi,
First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the data
source for OsmAnd ),
if the affected roads are properly mapped and tagged, according to reality.
As OsmA
to routing algorithm. Like 500 m of unpaved road
versus 10 km of paved detour.(just illustratively).
And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug.
Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:>Hi,
First step is always checking on https://www.openstreetmap.org ( the data
source for
ason is, there is other option but very
disadvantageous according to routing algorithm. Like 500 m of unpaved road
versus 10 km of paved detour.(just illustratively).
And another reason may be still N OsmAnd bug.
Dne 7. února 2021 8:06:57 Poutnik Fornntp napsal:>Hi,
First
Brouter can generate GPX file specifically for OsmAnd with included
junction/crossroad waypoints for navigation hints, so OSMAnd is able to
provide them to user in the form of the way of turning.
But is does not use street names. It's navigation data in RD5 files do not
even contain street n
Yes, you see it as pictograms and/or hear it as voice hints. No street names.
Well,not every intersection. Brouter involves its own logic, configurable
by routing profile, to decide, if it should bother you with a hint or not.
Some consider it controversial, but IMHO it is mostly useful.
A r
It may be related to if there is applied an automatic or manual correction
of GPS WGS84 geoid altitude to Earth "potatoid".
Without correction, GPS gives for middle Europe about 60m higher altitude
than kartigraphic altitude.
Most Of better application offer such correction, or do it implicit
Sidewalk=* is a feature of the highway=*. If highway=construction, then it
applies to its features as well. As in this scenario, sidewalk is not an
independent osm way.
The different case would be e.g. (future) highway=residential +
highway=footway + footway=sidewalk. These are considered as
In such a case, sidewalk =* is wrong tagging
highway =
On 18 February 2017 20:22:16 Aceman444 wrote:
Sidewalk can be metres away from the main road (even separated by grass)
and it can be that only the road asphalt is being replaced, but the
sidewalk is fine and operable.
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On 22 February 2017 09:13:08 "'P Wat' via Osmand"
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Hi, Sorry for slow reaction - Had some d
Neither I use OSMand bicycle routing,
as Brouter outperforms it even by features, aside of using mostly LocusMap.
But not all Osmand users are Brouter aware, and such implementation may
confuse them
On 16 April 2017 12:00:02 "'Osmandtrier' via Osmand"
wrote:
In my opinion it is a waste o
of us who do actually use the bicycle mode.
On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Poutnik Fornntp
wrote:
Neither I use OSMand bicycle routing,
as Brouter outperforms it even by features, aside of using mostly LocusMap.
But not all Osmand users are Brouter aware, and such implementation may
confuse t
What is important is in context of software features subjective,
directly driven by personal preferences.
On 26 April 2017 07:57:39 Peter B wrote:
NO !
elapsed time or time at arrival for *destination* is just what I need for
navigating.
Time for intermediate points is not important. If I
I mean
obtaining the key
Applying it in Url queries to Ocm.
On 26 April 2017 11:36:12 "'Mike L' via Osmand"
wrote:
Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. I am afraid I don't understand
the concept of 'managing ' a key ?
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Real status of the way is irrelevant.
The only thing that matters is if it is recorded in Osm data, respectively
reflected in osmand obf maps.
In this case it clearly is not, as for what you have provided there is no
tag hint for being unpaved.
The only way to fix it is to correct Osm data.
Rename ask to zip an open it.
On 24 May 2017 07:56:46 Jan van Bekkum wrote:
I didn't find it under http://download.osmand.net/rawindexes/ . I used
https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/routing/routing.xml
instead.
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 7:53 AM Jan van Bekkum
wrote:
AFAIK, pronunciation of Osm data is not given by OSMand itself, but by used
voice engine, either as Texttospeach, either as prerecorded voice. Try to
install different TTS engine as the default one.
Osmand IMHO just provides additional data to be spoken e.g. as guidance,
that are not in Osm da
technical text.
How the particular navigation pronounces it depends on what system TTS
engine is set to be used on the Android level, and if the application
installs a/o uses any on its own.
On 29 May 2017 06:29:35 Poutnik Fornntp wrote:
AFAIK, pronunciation of Osm data is not given
There must be a voice engine aware of such feature, and such a
modification must be done on Osmand side, not on Osm data side.
On 29 May 2017 10:16:54 Peter B wrote:
Does anybody know a way to avoid interpretations by voice engine (or any
other "semi-intelligent" part of system) ex. as usin
And can you find the Osmand data folder itself?
Have you downloaded any map? As application comes with no map.
The vector map extension is obf.
Important is also Android version and Android version dependent access
policies.
On 14 June 2017 07:46:02 "Luc Rooms" wrote:
Hi,
Yes I’m using
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