, as debates do, that
get legs of their own!
-Mac-
- Original Message -
From: Rob Tabor rob.ta...@sbcglobal.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Amen and thank you, Judy. So far I have counted four people
Message -
From: Judy W ju...@austin.rr.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:24 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Most thinking people understand both sides of this issue and will do what
they choose to do in the end so could we please
, 2010 6:17 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I've said it before, but it deserves to be said again. Just because it's
illegal does not, under any circumstances, mean it's wrong. It just means
that the RIAA and MPAA have been successful in lobbying governments to give
.
--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:48 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Kevin, the point is this. Why should you
...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you
But NLS allows people to download books from the Bard site.
- Original Message -
From: Ford Blackwell blackwe...@ameritech.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
but from Bard, which was your
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on in
the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same
reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you
?
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Amen
Mitchell
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc
same things with screen readers most blind are on ssi and can't aford 800
dollar plus screen readers
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
this was told to me buy a radio station professional who was in the
indistory fore over 15 years
- Original Message -
From: Tom t...@pc-audio.org
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
The websites that allow you to download music
AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download your
copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal
authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that copy.
Not
only is that incorrect, but it's also
a men to that
guys can we stop this thread all ready?
- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I don't quite know what this thread is all
...@att.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Well I must have been stealing when I copied music onto my tape recorder
from radio, or American Bandstand on TV!
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre
, 2010 2:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
your wrong
if your cell fore proffit its elegal
if your sharing unmung friends and family etc then its fine otherwise they
need to band all cd burners, dvd records etc etc oh yeah and mp3 players to
cause downloading mp3s
: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Why wouldn't you be able to get a player from the NLS? If you qualify for
the BARD service then you'll be able to get a player free
-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
your
copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal
authority to do
: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download
your
copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal
authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise
of this conversation, sad to say.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
The reason in my mind
of this conversation, sad to say.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:16 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
The reason in my mind is that you
as tax payers, would be glad to fit
the bill for that LazyBoy.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:03 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Wow, I can't respond to all of these unsubstantiated allegations. This
is the first
...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:10 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the
librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read
the book in. However
19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
someone. Also the very existence
Here are your words frank:
frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List
pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
dub a audio tape or copy an overdrive book
...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List; PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Here are your words frank:
frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List
pc
: Re: It's Still Stealing
so, it sounds like you would prefer the NLS to use the same standards as the
public library does with their overdrive books and build in a self-destruct
feature so that you can no longer use the book after a set period of time?
- Original Message -
From: Frank
: April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List; PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Here are your words frank:
frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List
pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give them
Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Audiobook sales are pretty much exactly like album sales. The publishers
see
most of the revenue from it, whereas the authors get stuck with very
little.
And, indeed, there are quite a few authors now who are releasing their
books
online first, knowing
, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
That is where you are wrong. There are many folks whom have made very
handsome profits from BARD. Those players don't just fall from the sky
you know. They cost money to make and design and that is profit for
someone. Also the very
then the general public.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Here are your words frank:
frank.vent
:38 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Audiobook sales are pretty much exactly like album sales. The publishers
see
most of the revenue from it, whereas the authors get stuck with very
little.
And, indeed, there are quite a few authors now who are releasing their
books
12:13 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Are you accusing me (or anyone else on this list) of copying books?
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19
-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:26 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Copying DVD's you borrow from Blockbuster violates your terms and
conditions with Blockbuster. It's also stealing that DVD from the DVD's
Still Stealing
Here are your words frank:
frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List
pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
You can just as easily go to your local library and photocopy a book,
dub a audio tape or copy
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:20 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I don't follow. How is the copy protection scheme meant to sell players?
Who's supposed to make money with this scheme? I think the copy
protection scheme is meant to do exactly what it claims
no double standard?
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:27 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I don't agree. Someone else on this list
-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: April 19, 2010 9:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
No, but the library won't let you make copies of that book and give them
away or sell them
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:27 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I don't agree. Someone else on this list talked about the more famous
RIAA law suits, and to my knowledge none of these were directed against
blind individuals. I'm not aware of a single case where
: It's Still Stealing
I'm confused. Who's paying three bills? Where's the analogy?
--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com
On 4/19/2010 12:31 PM, Frank Ventura wrote:
OK if you don't think there is a double standard then stand in front
of
your average lending library in AnyTown USA and tell each
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
What I meant (in case there is any confusion) is that a sighted person
can break copyright law just as easily as a blind person but they don't
face the same restrictions as blind people do. I thought I made that
quite clear. Again I go back
Well, here we go again!
- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
If I walk into my local public library and check out a book
-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 1:38 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I'm confused. Who's paying three bills? Where's the analogy?
--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com
On 4/19/2010 12:31
Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: April 19, 2010 3:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
the only small difference with BARD is that you don't buy the book from BARD
so you own no part of it even though its on your computer.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja
:12 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Are you accusing me (or anyone else on this list) of copying books?
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:54 AM
To: PC Audio
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
OK if you don't think there is a double standard then stand in front of
your average lending library in AnyTown USA and tell each person coming
out with a book that they will have to spend three bills of their
paycheck (or tax
I believe he is speaking of the cost of such players as the Victor stream,
Book Sense
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I'm
I thaught the ipod doesn't play drm wma, have they switched formats?
- Original Message -
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:15 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Why do you feel
-
From: Frank Ventura frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:31 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
OK if you don't think there is a double standard then stand in front of
your average lending library in AnyTown USA
amen
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Modirator,
Hasen't this thread about gone far enough off topic
It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you
permission to copy it.
Tom
** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
High Tom,
I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to
do it.
If he says yes, then I do it.
But if he says no, then it doesn't happen.
To unsubscribe from this list
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: April 18, 2010 6:49 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: It's Still Stealing
It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to copy
it.
Tom
** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
High Tom,
I don't do it unless my boss gives me
-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Ok, so you say, it's still stealing.
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you download
music and audio books without having
...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use bard
with
the book players, because you are downloading the books. Then you are not
giving them
give people a choice as to what to do with their acquisitions.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard
...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use
bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books.
Then you are not giving them
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put
Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like Bard will
be the elimination of the service.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuth ja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion
.
Mitchell
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have
but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
That's absulootly rite, but after
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Sure, if you believe BARD. Unfortunately, they're borrowing talking points
from the recording industry. And those talking points have been debunked 6
ways from Sunday.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Your rite, but after you download the file you don't return it. The books
you download are coppy protected, so how are you not steeling it then. Your
not so if you have permition to cop that file the if you have the permition
of someone
Stealing
but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
That's absulootly rite
-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:52 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But Bard is funded by Congress, not exactly the most liberal or
understanding of organizations
Amen
Mitchell
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:04 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Well, then, folks are just going to have to look
]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:01 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download your
copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal
authority to do anything
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
- Original Message -
From: mitchell mitchellgre
something.
Mitchell
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:51 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have
...@gmail.com mailto:chalt...@gmail.com
On 4/18/2010 8:08 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
Ok, so you say, it's still stealing.
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you
download music and audio books without
, it's still stealing.
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that
lets you download
music and audio books without having to pay anything for
it?
Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading
music and audio
books without having to pay a dime for it.
Explain that one to me
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of mitchell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:46 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Your rite, but after you download the file you don't return it. The books
you download are coppy protected, so how are you not steeling
, 2010 10:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for
their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. There
is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type
-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of James Homuth
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:01 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download your
copy of a particular
Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission.
- Original Message -
From: mitchellmitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still
: Re: It's Still Stealing
Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like Bard will
be the elimination of the service.
- Original Message -
From: James Homuthja...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject
]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for
their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. There
is a specific exception
-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Ok, so you say, it's still stealing.
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you download
music and audio books without
-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:18 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I don't think BARD has anything to do with this argument. Downloading a
book from BARD and keeping it around for your own personal use isn't
stealing. Stealing
the point.
Mitchell
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 2:13 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
BARD is not a business or a company and doesn't
List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
and who determines if the media is overpriced? Just because you think
something is overpriced doesn't give you the right to steal it.
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com mailto:chalt
...@the-jdh.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Well, then, folks are just going to have to look for alternatives. Which
means more of that stuff you call stealing. Either way, the government
still
gets
...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:52 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my boss
orders for his radio station.
Sometimes, he orders more
Hi John and list.
I'm going to comment on several messages that I've seen on this topic.
First, John, I wonder if your direct boss is the owner of the station. If
he is, the station may get into trouble if publishers find out he is
allowing material sent to the station is being copied. This
: mitchell mitchellgre...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Abbsalootly correct. That was all I was trying to say. I just used bard as
an example. It isn't steeling if it is given to you. That was my
.
--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:52 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Hello James and others,
I was accused
for it, and it's given to me, then I can't be stealing it.
John.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:02 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Hi John and list.
I'm going to comment
.
.
- Original Message -
From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my
boss orders for his
stars that gave them to me?
John.
- Original Message -
From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Having worked at a radio station for 30 plus years I can tell you first
hand
...@att.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my
boss orders for his radio station.
Sometimes, he orders more CD's then we
, 2010 6:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
A few points.
Copying someone else's CD's is illegal.
If someone gives you a CD then that is not illegal.
It's my understanding that sometimes special CD's can be distributed to
broadcasters with the agreement
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From: Bob Seed bobs...@tbaytel.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
I should add that the CD's that radio stations usually give away on air are
promotional CD's, so if they give a couple of CD's
.
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From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
High Bob,
I wasn't gonna brake this on the list, but after talking it over with my
wife, here it is.
Long before I got
-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Kevin Minor
Sent: April 18, 2010 6:02 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Hi John and list.
I'm going to comment on several messages that I've seen on this topic.
First, John, I wonder if your direct boss is the owner of the station
pretty much all the money generated by CD sales anyway.
-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: April 18, 2010 2:38 PM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
The websites that allow you
Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
The RIAA is in quite a bit of hot water right now because of its legal
tactics over the last few years. Namely, sue first, intimidate second, ask
questions later. They sued a 60-year-old woman who
Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
A few points.
Copying someone else's CD's is illegal.
If someone gives you a CD then that is not illegal.
It's my understanding that sometimes special CD's can be distributed to
broadcasters with the agreement that they not be redistributed. I
, 2010 5:18 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
A few points.
Copying someone else's CD's is illegal.
If someone gives you a CD then that is not illegal.
It's my understanding that sometimes special CD's can be distributed to
broadcasters with the agreement
18, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Hello James and others,
I was accused by Tom of stealing because I make copies of CD's that my
boss orders for his radio station.
Sometimes, he orders more CD's then we really need.
He lets us pick and choose what we want and take them home
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
The RIAA is in quite a bit of hot water right now because of its legal
tactics over the last few years. Namely, sue first, intimidate second, ask
questions later. They sued
: Sunday, April 18, 2010 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Here, Here! I think it's time we stop behaving like a bunch of self
appointed vigillanties and stop these gratuitous and unsolicited theft
accusations.
Tabor
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From: DJ DOCTOR P djdoct...@att.net
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