Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread mike wilson

On 09/09/2012 18:27, John Sessoms wrote:

From: mike wilson


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment

Just a heads-up for those who have to pay for treatment or who may
suffer a premium increase for consulting.

Stepping out of the house on Thursday, I saw a splash of white across my
left eye. Thinking it was bird poop, I wiped the eye but there was
nothing there. Then I noticed the huge (60-70% of my vision) field of
floaters that had appeared. Clearly a cause for concern. Off to the
local eye infirmary (a leftover from the local industrial past) for a
checkup, where the above was diagnosed.

A very common occurence, apparently, and completely harmless in itself.
Complications such as those mentioned in the wiki article are very rare
- I was the third person that day to turn up with the problem and the
opthamologist had seen no complications this year. She highlighted that
it was only really necessary to come back if an occurence caused a dark
patch in my vision that I could not see through or my vision as a whole
rapidly deteriorated. She also said that complications generally occur
at the time, not later, unlike the wiki article.

So there you go.


Did you update the wiki article with the corrections?


Not really sure that a medical opinion would be correct.

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Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread mike wilson

On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote:

Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:


On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:


Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway?


The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years.


So Mike's out of warranty, then?



I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of 
the factory but on second thoughts


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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bruce Walker
 
 I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list,
 was it?
 
 But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
 clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment and
 think it means High Def as in video?
 

My contact in the Pentax-Ricoh Acronyms Team tells me it stands for Hot
Diggity.

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Re: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 No big surprises

Great news. I can keep my K-5 and spend some money on other nice toys.

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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.

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I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list, was
it?

But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment
and think it means High Def as in video?


On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 No big surprises


http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-5-II-q10-hd-coating-560mm-announce
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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:05:02 -0400 J.C. O'Connell wrote:

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.

The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or 
something completely different ...

Regards, JvW


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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
So what if they put this hd coating on a mediocre, low definition lens?
That would be oxymoronic wouldnt it?
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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:05:02 -0400 J.C. O'Connell wrote:

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they
didnt
even say what hd stands for.

The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or 
something completely different ...

Regards, JvW


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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I wonder if Pentax will update HD to UHD once UHD TV comes out
I think they just should have left the name the same and upgraded the
coatings themselves.

Funny thing is the new coatings will be most effective on lenses with high
number of groups like complex zoom and wide angles, probably not the highest
definition lenses in the lineup.

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On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:05:02 -0400 J.C. O'Connell wrote:

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they
didnt
even say what hd stands for.

The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or 
something completely different ...

Regards, JvW


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Re: OT GESO - Biennale of Sydney Cockatoo Island

2012-09-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:


The Biennale has been on since July, but in one of those sad boo-boos,
I could only make it on the second last weekend of the shooo.
Rather good this year it was, too.
Feel free to make jokes about a cockatoo.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_cockatoo/index.htm



Enjoyable set - especially 02 and 05.  I've been trying to get to the  
Biennale for weeks but several events have conspired to thwart me -  
including a train derailment.  I'm going to give it one more try this  
week.



Cheers

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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com:


I've been photographing one of the local churches.  Here's a detail
shot from the last batch.

http://georges.posterous.com/the-church-project-continues

I have a long way to go, but I'm still aiming to complete the book
before the end of this year.




Interesting project with some excellent images so far.  st bridgets  
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Re: PESOs: Duxford Airshow

2012-09-11 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net:


We went yesterday and the undoubted star of the show was the only
Vulcan still flying:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3159.html

The Aerostars Yak-50 display team did a pretty good job too:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3277.html

And, for the WW2 aficionados, here's B17 Flying Fortress, Sally B:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Airshows1/Duxford2012/slides/_IMG3249.html




Great set.  Hard to pick a favourite but I really like the Catalina in  
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Re: OT GESO - Biennale of Sydney Cockatoo Island

2012-09-11 Thread Derby Chang


On 11/09/2012 9:12 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au:


The Biennale has been on since July, but in one of those sad boo-boos,
I could only make it on the second last weekend of the shooo.
Rather good this year it was, too.
Feel free to make jokes about a cockatoo.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_cockatoo/index.htm



Enjoyable set - especially 02 and 05.  I've been trying to get to the 
Biennale for weeks but several events have conspired to thwart me - 
including a train derailment.  I'm going to give it one more try this 
week.



Cheers

Brian


Thanks Brian, and those who looked.

Definitely try to get there this last weekend. One thing I'll have to 
say about this year's curation. The theme is really subtle and bears 
taking time to contemplate. Some of my favourites were


http://bos18.com/artist?id=108 - Yoshihiro Suda. Blink and you'll miss 
it. His piece is not where it is indicated in the guide. It is sitting 
outside in a broken greenhouse, exposed to the elements, at the top of 
the cliff stairs as you come off the ferry. Must be giving the curators 
conniptions.


http://bos18.com/artist?id=73 - Ricardo Lanzarini. Somewhat NSFW, 
beautiful drawings. Had me grinning, so simple, and very site-specific. 
I still think drawing is the core of all visual arts.


http://bos18.com/artist?id=53 - Iris Häussler. Ask the young docents 
about the story behind this installation. Two parallel obsessives, on a 
lifelong pursuit. It's a heartbreaking story


http://bos18.com/artist?id=103 - Tiffany Singh. This one is a bit of a 
crowd pleaser, but it was oddly empty for most of the time I spent in 
there (other than the fuzzy-top girl in 16). Bruce, yes, you'd think it 
was noisy, and it was a windy day. Actually it very relaxing and melodic.


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OT GESO - Ziggy

2012-09-11 Thread Derby Chang


Just back from a fun little opening.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_ziggy/index.htm

Doesn't suit my complexion, but I wish I could rock pink like that.


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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-11 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-09-11 1:25, Tom C wrote:


I'd like an i7 CPU. I can't tell the difference between the various
versions of it. Yeah I see the minor differences in speed and cache,
but in real noticeable terms what does that mean? Is it worth $200 or
$500 for a different version? I suspect not.


It's not to me.  And certainly not the difference between a $200 or $300 
normal i7 versus the $1000 extreme versions.  I doubt you'd notice 
any difference in daily operations for photo management and editing.



More RAM? I think that could make a noticeable difference. 16G vs 24G
vs 32G? I have no idea other than that more could be better but also
possibly overkill.


You might be right.  I haven't used the Adobe products in some time, but 
working with 4k x 3k scans of 35mm frames, back when I did use them, 
Photoshop would eat swap space like a dog in an Alpo bag if I did much 
at all with the image.


Actually, I'll change my mind a bit, and suggest getting one with some 
SSD for swap (desktop) or for main storage (laptop) rather than the 
extra 16GB of memory.



I haven't researched the mSATA drive stuff that's available. Can
someone explain what that means?


Can't help there.  I've used SATA and eSATA but not mSATA.


My gut tells me that in addition to CPU, RAM and SSD drives are the
items that will enhance performance as far as speed is concerned. The
slowest component in a system will drag down all other others.


Completely agree, I'm just suggesting that RAM and SSD (I/O speed) will 
have a bigger impact than the difference between a Core i5, Core i7, or 
AMD Bulldozer CPU.


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OT Millefiori - Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field ...

http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/Millefiori/4036035

More background ...

http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/fabian-oefner

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Re: OT GESO - Ziggy

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Love it. Looks like everyone had a great time.


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 Just back from a fun little opening.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_09/12_09_ziggy/index.htm

 Doesn't suit my complexion, but I wish I could rock pink like that.


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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dan,
Busy, Busy, Busy!
There is a lot going on in the photo,
not only with the car,
but also with the background!
I imagine this is by design.
Nice image.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread Bob Sullivan
I first noticed floaters when I was 12 or 13.
Sometimes they drive me crazy.
I know where to come now for medical advice.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway?


 The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years.


 So Mike's out of warranty, then?


 I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of the
 factory but on second thoughts

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Re: OT Millefiori - Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field

2012-09-11 Thread Ann Sanfedele

OMG it's Keith Haring meets Peter Max

Interesting but kinda ugly

 - much prettier (to me)  are thin sections of rock
photo'ed through a microscope under cross-polarized light.

http://www.jeffreycreid.com/petrography/pet_igneous.html

More like the abstract expressionists than the pop-artists

ann

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Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field ...

http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/Millefiori/4036035

More background ...

http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/fabian-oefner



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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 How sensitive to moire would the lack of n anti-aliasing filter make the 
 camera? I know no one can say with certainty, but how has it affected 
 other digital cameras? I'd like to have more resolution, but I'm concerned 
 that the cross--hatch pattern on automobile grilles might cause moire. 
 
 A few months ago Luminous Landscape did some comparisons between the
 two versions of the D800. Initial tests showed the superiority of the
 D800E (without AA filter) but several people pointed out that standard
 capture sharpening would reduce the difference significantly. He
 posted more samples, this time with capture sharpening applied to both
 cameras and the difference between the two was *drastically* reduced.
 Reichmann insisted that the difference would be apparent in print but
 I really think he's kidding himself here. Differences in print are
 always *less* than pixel-peeped 100% views and after seeing his tests
 I wouldn't pay extra for a camera without an anti-aliasing filter.
 
Thanks Mark. Good to know.

The Luminous landscape page is here:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/nikon_d800_d800e_first_comparison.shtml
Scroll all the way to the bottom to see the final sharpened
comparison. The top image (D800E without AA filter) looks a hair
sharper -- but nowhere near enough (in my opinion) to show up in a
print. I also notice he rendered the non-AA image with a little more
contrast than the one from the camera with the AA filter; extra
contrast always gives a subjective impression of additional sharpness.
I brought them both into Photoshop and equalized the black and white
levels of both images; they were virtually indistinguishable at that
point.

Mind you, I think Reichmann's right about moire being an
over-emphasized bogeyman. You might see it in fine weave like cloth
but probably only rarely then. I can't see car grilles ever being a
problem. At equal pricing I wouldn't hesitate to buy a camera without
an anti-aliasing filter. The K-5IIs is one hundred dollars more than
the K-5II; that's pretty close, so it all depends on how much you need
that hundred dollars to spend on something else ;-)


 
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Re: Peso, eyes front

2012-09-11 Thread wendy beard
That's really ugly.

The one Dave posted is unnerving

The one Frank posted is really pretty and well done.

Picking the right artist is pretty important where tattoos are concerned!

Wendy

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 There seems to be a veritable rash of these skin conditions, you may
 remember I posted this a couple of months ago as Butterflys are Free, but
 the alternate title would have Here's looking at you.  or something like
 that...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20butterflysarefree.html


 On 9/9/2012 11:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Franks tattoo shot prompted me to submit this for approval.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/7963255892/in/photostream

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-11 Thread wendy beard
Brilliant shot!
A friend of mine just got back last week from a trip to the same area.
Looking forward to seeing her shots too.

Wendy

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 A great place to capture marine life.

 Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a Zodiak.
 20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread George Sinos
I agree, my domain names are still hosted at godaddy and that was the
problem.  It still worked for me because all of the addresses were
cached.

As to the compliment from Mark on nailing the exposure, I'd like to
take credit, but really can't.  I'm doing much of the shooting on a
tripod in  +/- 4 stop bracketed sets.  A lot of those resulting images
are the result of careful HDR processing in Nik's HDR software.  I'm
trying to make them look as realistic as possible while taking
advantage of  the wider dynamic range.

gs

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:27 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com:

 I've been photographing one of the local churches.  Here's a detail
 shot from the last batch.

 http://georges.posterous.com/the-church-project-continues

 I have a long way to go, but I'm still aiming to complete the book
 before the end of this year.



 Interesting project with some excellent images so far.  st bridgets church,
 choir loft, rear wall is especially nice with those beautiful floor
 reflections.


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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 10, 2012, at 22:03 , John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 07:59:23PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:21 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 so how fast will the current K-5 body drop in price ? :-)
 
 It's already down to $895. I guess it depends on how many they have left. 
 If the supply is scant, it may stay right where it is.
 
 Agreed. These new cameras aren't going to tempt many people to upgrade
 from a K-5. They're probably not intended to.
 
 The diiferences I spot on the K-5 II are:
 
 o  Better auto-focus  (this is the big one from where I'm sitting)
 
 o  Improved rear LCD (brighter  sharper, but same size  resolution)
 
 o  SDXC memory card compatibility (or was that added in a K5 firware upgrade?)
 

K7 (and I would expect K5) are SDXC compatible with firmware upgrades.

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RE: Peso, eyes front

2012-09-11 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 wendy beard
 
 That's really ugly.
 
 The one Dave posted is unnerving
 
 The one Frank posted is really pretty and well done.
 
 Picking the right artist is pretty important where tattoos are
 concerned!
 

The best way to do it is to be 18, get drunk in a dockside bar in Bordeaux
and start trying to tattoo yourself with a penknife.

The father of one of my friends got his during a drunken session in some
foreign land, so when my friend's daughter expressed a wish for a tattoo
they came down to London on a family trip to this place, to make sure she
got it done properly:
http://www.thefamilybusinesstattoo.com/

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Re: Setting the Q's Quick Dial

2012-09-11 Thread Darren Addy
Sorry for the delay in answering Mark C's question on how to do true
HDR on the Q. I was not familiar enough with the Q yet to answer off
the top of my head. Also, hard to wrap one's head around is how some
features are not available when other settings are enabled.

To do true HDR, with a minimum of fuss you first of all need to be
shooting RAW or RAW+.
Then, the feature you are looking for is Exposure Bracketing. In the
menu, you can select the bracketing order (see page 68 of the manual).
Exposure bracketing is not available when the capture mode is set to
Moving Object, Night Scene HDR, Pet, Kids, HDR (of the SCN mode on the
dial).
It is also not available when the shutter speed is set to B.
It is also not available when HDR Capture is set (since that applies
only to the camera's automatically merging 3 shots into a JPEG)
Finally, it cannot be used with Interval Shooting or Multi-Exposure.

Exposure Bracketing is selected in Drive Mode (icon looks like three
rectangles with the +/- one on top. You'll see you have your choice of
normal Exposure Bracketing or Exposure Bracketing in combination with
the Remote Control. After you have selected which one you want, you
can press the DOWNARROW again to select the EV separation between
shots (using the dial). You can set up to a +/- 3 EV for your
over/under-exposed shots.

To cancel the Exposure Bracketing, you just switch back to another drive mode.
The only other thing to keep in mind is that whatever AF point is
selected in the first exposure will be used in the 2nd and third.

I believe this works pretty much like it works on other Pentax DSLRs,
except that you are limited to 3 shots where the K-5 gives you the
option of 5. (also you get to the drive mode on the K-5 with the
UPARROW button, while on the Q it is the RIGHTARROW button.

All of this is covered on Pages 80  81 of the Q manual.



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 Thanks for confirming that - I spent some time over the last few days with
 the manual and the camera, hoping to do it through the USER settings, which
 I can't seem to get to work one way or another. It looks like the Quick dial
 only allows customization of the Custom Picture Mode, Digital Filters, and
 aspect ratio.

 Mark


 On 9/8/2012 8:54 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Not that I could work out.  I wondered if it could be done by doing
 the smart effect user settings but no such luck.  This dial is a nice
 idea but the selections are lousy.  This would be a nice firmware
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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 The Luminous landscape page is here:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/nikon_d800_d800e_first_comparison.shtml
 Scroll all the way to the bottom to see the final sharpened
 comparison. The top image (D800E without AA filter) looks a hair
 sharper -- but nowhere near enough (in my opinion) to show up in a
 print. I also notice he rendered the non-AA image with a little more
 contrast than the one from the camera with the AA filter; extra
 contrast always gives a subjective impression of additional sharpness.
 I brought them both into Photoshop and equalized the black and white
 levels of both images; they were virtually indistinguishable at that
 point.
 
 Mind you, I think Reichmann's right about moire being an
 over-emphasized bogeyman. You might see it in fine weave like cloth
 but probably only rarely then. I can't see car grilles ever being a
 problem. At equal pricing I wouldn't hesitate to buy a camera without
 an anti-aliasing filter. The K-5IIs is one hundred dollars more than
 the K-5II; that's pretty close, so it all depends on how much you need
 that hundred dollars to spend on something else ;-)

It would be an interesting experiment to specifically try for moire.

I'd print a target with various line spacings, and knowing the resolution of 
the sensor, I'd know where moire should be a visible effect.  I'd take photos 
with the camera a bit closer than it should be noticeable, at a range of 
f-stops, both hand held and on a tripod.  Move the camera back and repeat.

It would also be interesting to try the same experiment with red, blue and 
green lines on white and on black.

I doubt that it would show much of any practical use to photographers, but I do 
think it might be an interesting demo for high school science students.What 
I bet it would mostly show is the effects of diffraction.  I wonder if it would 
also show the effects of diffraction being different at different wavelengths.


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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-11 Thread George Sinos
I recently replaced my older laptop to get something with better performance.

It's a core i7 running the 64 bit version of Windows 7.  The key
feature is 16Gb of memory.  Using the Nik HDR software, Photomatix or
Photoshop a 9 image HDR uses about 11Gbytes of memory and processes in
5 to 10 minutes. These are 36 Megapixel images so they are big.  There
is very little or no disk activity during processing so I doubt that
SSD would make much difference.

I have similar results when stitching panoramas.  16Gig of memory
seems more than adequate, but I don't think I would want less.

When I process lower resolution HDRs or Panos it takes me longer to
select the files than it takes to do the processing.

The CPU is i7-3830QM running at 2.7GHz.   During the above operations,
all 8 cores of the CPU are busy doing something but none of them go
higher than 30-50% capacity.  So I don't think CPU is that big of a
factor.  It's important, but I wouldn't stress the budget to get the
fastest one available.

For me, storage capacity isn't that important.  I want enough to
comfortably hold my software, but I keep all of my data on external
drives and don't seem to have performance issues.

An SSD would be nice on boot-up, but really that's about the only time
I might really care.  All of the programs I use start up in 3-5
seconds.  Even a reboot only takes about 1-3 minutes,  and I only
reboot once a week.  Any other time I just put the computer in the
sleep mode and get instant restarts.

It's an HP with a 17 screen that I bought on the HP website without
doing a lot of shopping around.  I don't remember the exact cost but
it was around $2k with the shipping.

I think you can sweat a lot about details, but the biggest performance
enabler is the 16 Gig of memory.

I don't know if this helps you make a decision, but that's what is
working very well for me processing those relatively huge files.

gs

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org wrote:
 On 2012-09-11 1:25, Tom C wrote:

 I'd like an i7 CPU. I can't tell the difference between the various
 versions of it. Yeah I see the minor differences in speed and cache,
 but in real noticeable terms what does that mean? Is it worth $200 or
 $500 for a different version? I suspect not.


 It's not to me.  And certainly not the difference between a $200 or $300
 normal i7 versus the $1000 extreme versions.  I doubt you'd notice any
 difference in daily operations for photo management and editing.


 More RAM? I think that could make a noticeable difference. 16G vs 24G
 vs 32G? I have no idea other than that more could be better but also
 possibly overkill.


 You might be right.  I haven't used the Adobe products in some time, but
 working with 4k x 3k scans of 35mm frames, back when I did use them,
 Photoshop would eat swap space like a dog in an Alpo bag if I did much at
 all with the image.

 Actually, I'll change my mind a bit, and suggest getting one with some SSD
 for swap (desktop) or for main storage (laptop) rather than the extra 16GB
 of memory.


 I haven't researched the mSATA drive stuff that's available. Can
 someone explain what that means?


 Can't help there.  I've used SATA and eSATA but not mSATA.


 My gut tells me that in addition to CPU, RAM and SSD drives are the
 items that will enhance performance as far as speed is concerned. The
 slowest component in a system will drag down all other others.


 Completely agree, I'm just suggesting that RAM and SSD (I/O speed) will have
 a bigger impact than the difference between a Core i5, Core i7, or AMD
 Bulldozer CPU.


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Re: Peso, eyes front

2012-09-11 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's really ugly.

 The one Dave posted is unnerving

 The one Frank posted is really pretty and well done.

 Picking the right artist is pretty important where tattoos are concerned!

She is 19 and from Edmonton, say no more.:-)

Dave

 Wendy

 On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 There seems to be a veritable rash of these skin conditions, you may
 remember I posted this a couple of months ago as Butterflys are Free, but
 the alternate title would have Here's looking at you.  or something like
 that...

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20butterflysarefree.html


 On 9/9/2012 11:49 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Franks tattoo shot prompted me to submit this for approval.
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/7963255892/in/photostream

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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread George Sinos
I'm not sure you can learn much about the K5 moire from a D800/e
comparison.  There is a difference in resolution and pixel size.  I
don't know if that makes a difference, but a few of the articles I've
read seem to indicate it does.

Like I said, not sure.  I might wait for the inevitable comparisons
and test shots that are sure to be coming.

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 How sensitive to moire would the lack of n anti-aliasing filter make the
 camera? I know no one can say with certainty, but how has it affected
 other digital cameras? I'd like to have more resolution, but I'm concerned
 that the cross--hatch pattern on automobile grilles might cause moire.

 A few months ago Luminous Landscape did some comparisons between the
 two versions of the D800. Initial tests showed the superiority of the
 D800E (without AA filter) but several people pointed out that standard
 capture sharpening would reduce the difference significantly. He
 posted more samples, this time with capture sharpening applied to both
 cameras and the difference between the two was *drastically* reduced.
 Reichmann insisted that the difference would be apparent in print but
 I really think he's kidding himself here. Differences in print are
 always *less* than pixel-peeped 100% views and after seeing his tests
 I wouldn't pay extra for a camera without an anti-aliasing filter.

Thanks Mark. Good to know.

 The Luminous landscape page is here:
 http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/nikon_d800_d800e_first_comparison.shtml
 Scroll all the way to the bottom to see the final sharpened
 comparison. The top image (D800E without AA filter) looks a hair
 sharper -- but nowhere near enough (in my opinion) to show up in a
 print. I also notice he rendered the non-AA image with a little more
 contrast than the one from the camera with the AA filter; extra
 contrast always gives a subjective impression of additional sharpness.
 I brought them both into Photoshop and equalized the black and white
 levels of both images; they were virtually indistinguishable at that
 point.

 Mind you, I think Reichmann's right about moire being an
 over-emphasized bogeyman. You might see it in fine weave like cloth
 but probably only rarely then. I can't see car grilles ever being a
 problem. At equal pricing I wouldn't hesitate to buy a camera without
 an anti-aliasing filter. The K-5IIs is one hundred dollars more than
 the K-5II; that's pretty close, so it all depends on how much you need
 that hundred dollars to spend on something else ;-)



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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure you can learn much about the K5 moire from a D800/e
 comparison.  There is a difference in resolution and pixel size.  I
 don't know if that makes a difference, but a few of the articles I've
 read seem to indicate it does.

The physical pixel size is extremely similar between the D800(E) and
K-5 (both are a bit under 5 microns).

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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure you can learn much about the K5 moire from a D800/e
 comparison.  There is a difference in resolution and pixel size.  I
 don't know if that makes a difference, but a few of the articles I've
 read seem to indicate it does.

The physical pixel size is extremely similar between the D800(E) and
K-5 (both are a bit under 5 microns).

Interesting. Seems about right. 16-megapixel APS-C should be very
close to 36-megapixel full-frame. 
 
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Re: I'm pretty sure this is my last 'friends' wedding shoot

2012-09-11 Thread wendy beard
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 David J Brooks

 Here is one i did an auto adjust ion LR and cropped the top flare out.
 The left dust flare is visible but not so much. I'm pretty sure the
 dust is exterior as all of the other pictures are fine.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/7963178054/in/photostream


 they look as though they're defending against a free kick just outside the
 eighteen-yard box.

 B

That was my first thought too, but I was too polite to say :-)

Dave - just crank up the lens flare to over-the-top proportions and
tell them it's what all the wedding photogs are doing at the moment.
They'll love it.

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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure you can learn much about the K5 moire from a D800/e
 comparison.  There is a difference in resolution and pixel size.  I
 don't know if that makes a difference, but a few of the articles I've
 read seem to indicate it does.

The physical pixel size is extremely similar between the D800(E) and
K-5 (both are a bit under 5 microns).

 Interesting. Seems about right. 16-megapixel APS-C should be very
 close to 36-megapixel full-frame.

Ned seems to hint that too. :-)

http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/k-5iis


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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread William Robb

On 11/09/2012 9:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



It would be an interesting experiment to specifically try for moire.



Post your results on pentax forums and get them all worked up about how 
crappy the camera is.
You don't have to specifically try for moire. I've used cameras that 
have no AA filter. It's amazing what will cause it.
Window screens, car grills, chain link fence, anything with a repetitive 
pattern can cause it depending on the magnification.


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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm afraid busy is what this one says to me too. My eyes don't know
where to go. I like the little touches though, like the collection of
flags in front.

I feel that, faced with this scene, I'd either pull back, go wide and
take in more surroundings or go in close for details. My own tendency
is to go for details as I don't have the chops yet to figure out a
good wide angle composition. I'm hoping that Bob Walkden will publish
a book on that subject.


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Busy, Busy, Busy!
 There is a lot going on in the photo,
 not only with the car,
 but also with the background!
 I imagine this is by design.
 Nice image.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772

 Comments will be appreciated.
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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-11 Thread Tom C
 From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com

 I recently replaced my older laptop to get something with better performance.

 It's a core i7 running the 64 bit version of Windows 7.  The key
 feature is 16Gb of memory.  Using the Nik HDR software, Photomatix or
 Photoshop a 9 image HDR uses about 11Gbytes of memory and processes in
 5 to 10 minutes. These are 36 Megapixel images so they are big.  There
 is very little or no disk activity during processing so I doubt that
 SSD would make much difference.

 I have similar results when stitching panoramas.  16Gig of memory
 seems more than adequate, but I don't think I would want less.


Thanks George, this does help.

 When I process lower resolution HDRs or Panos it takes me longer to
 select the files than it takes to do the processing.

 The CPU is i7-3830QM running at 2.7GHz.   During the above operations,
 all 8 cores of the CPU are busy doing something but none of them go
 higher than 30-50% capacity.  So I don't think CPU is that big of a
 factor.  It's important, but I wouldn't stress the budget to get the
 fastest one available.

 For me, storage capacity isn't that important.  I want enough to
 comfortably hold my software, but I keep all of my data on external
 drives and don't seem to have performance issues.

 An SSD would be nice on boot-up, but really that's about the only time
 I might really care.  All of the programs I use start up in 3-5
 seconds.  Even a reboot only takes about 1-3 minutes,  and I only
 reboot once a week.  Any other time I just put the computer in the
 sleep mode and get instant restarts.

 It's an HP with a 17 screen that I bought on the HP website without
 doing a lot of shopping around.  I don't remember the exact cost but
 it was around $2k with the shipping.

 I think you can sweat a lot about details, but the biggest performance
 enabler is the 16 Gig of memory.

 I don't know if this helps you make a decision, but that's what is
 working very well for me processing those relatively huge files.

 gs

Yes those first hand anecdotes definitely help. All my photo editing
is currently done on a 14 HP XP-based machine with an i5 with 2G RAM
or an HP 17 Vista-based machine dual-core Centrino that's 5 years old
with 3G RAM. Both are slow as dogs to boot. They've both been
multi-purpose work/general purpose machines. The dual 100G drives and
3GB memory in the 17 laptop seem pitifully small by todays standards.

I tend to keep a number of images open at once in Photoshop when
editing, so I'm thinking that faster (SSD) swap space could help also.

Thanks for the detailed description.

I'm interested in a machine with a wide gamut display. While I like HP
machines it seems their customization options are getting more limited
as time goes by. The one they have listed on their site that I'm most
interested in is not customizable at all, pre-purchase, and there
doesn't appear to be a version that is.

I appreciate the feedback.

Tom C.

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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/10/12 3:26 PM, George Sinos wrote:

Something strange seems to be going on over at posterous.

Try this link -www.crankygreek.com

George Sinos


Twitter bought posterous, and seem to have abandoned it. I've moved what 
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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bruce.  I'd love to read that book by Bob as well! G

Your comments are appreciated and helpful.  I couldn't pull back 
physically, as all the cars are parked along the street parallel to
the sidewalk.  In this case, there were only a few feet between the
bumper of this car and the bumper of the one in front of it.  I shot
it wide -- about 24 mm -- and going wider, to 18 mm or so, would have
distorted ti too much and brought a lamp post into the frame.

What bothers me most is the dude in sun glasses visible through the
windshield.  I wish I has seen that before taking the image.  Perhaps
I will try a crop that concentrates on the flags, the ornate grill and
the hood ornament.

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm afraid busy is what this one says to me too. My eyes don't know
 where to go. I like the little touches though, like the collection of
 flags in front.

 I feel that, faced with this scene, I'd either pull back, go wide and
 take in more surroundings or go in close for details. My own tendency
 is to go for details as I don't have the chops yet to figure out a
 good wide angle composition. I'm hoping that Bob Walkden will publish
 a book on that subject.


 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
  Dan,
  Busy, Busy, Busy!
  There is a lot going on in the photo,
  not only with the car,
  but also with the background!
  I imagine this is by design.
  Nice image.
  Regards,  Bob S.
 
  On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772
 
  Comments will be appreciated.
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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank and Bob.

Yes, it is busy, mostly by design.  This was taken at the Friday
evening classic car nights the our town holds in the summer.  This was
Labor Day weekend, the last event of this season, and I was trying to
memorialize the event by showing one of the more interesting cars
together with a sense of the people strolling up and down Main Street
checking out the cars and each other.  On previous occasions, I tried
hard to isolate a single car, but that was never very successful.  (I
have had more success with small details of some of the cars.)

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dan,
 Busy, Busy, Busy!
 There is a lot going on in the photo,
 not only with the car,
 but also with the background!
 I imagine this is by design.
 Nice image.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772

 Comments will be appreciated.
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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/10/12 3:26 PM, George Sinos wrote:

Something strange seems to be going on over at posterous.

Try this link -www.crankygreek.com

George Sinos


and I see you have done a similar move over to blogger/blogspot, to 
follow up my other reply. I do like the candle shot.


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RE: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bruce Walker
 
 I'm afraid busy is what this one says to me too. My eyes don't know
 where to go. I like the little touches though, like the collection of
 flags in front.
 
 I feel that, faced with this scene, I'd either pull back, go wide and
 take in more surroundings or go in close for details. My own tendency
 is to go for details as I don't have the chops yet to figure out a good
 wide angle composition. I'm hoping that Bob Walkden will publish a book
 on that subject.
 
  On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772
 

Well, that's very flattering, but unlikely to happen. If I know more than
other people about composition it's only because I'm a couple of pages ahead
of them in the book, not because I'm any great expert on it.

I've never been one for car photography - Paul Stenquist's your man for
that. The only car I've ever tried to photograph was my MGB Roadster, which
I photographed from a distance on a coast road. The pictures weren't very
good.

In the case of this car, you have to take what you can get where you find
it, and Dan's done a good job in the circumstances. In ideal circumstances
you'd take it out into the countryside somewhere and photograph it in
action. Failing that, I think you can probably get something by getting
further back and photographing it with a long lens from a relatively low
angle. I wouldn't photograph it close up with a wide-angle lens because I
don't particularly like the distortion it causes, or the fact that you can't
hide your reflection, but it depends on what you want to show.

B


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RE: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Doug Brewer
 
  Try this link -www.crankygreek.com
 
  George Sinos
 
 Twitter bought posterous, and seem to have abandoned it. I've moved
 what I had there over to wordpress (http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com)
 and will nuke the remains soon, after I give all six of my fans a
 chance to catch up.
 

Lady Bug is a helluva picture. So are Old School and I hope you dance. All
the shots of that little girl are good, but those three are outstanding.

B


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Re: Ricewhine postmortem

2012-09-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: P. J. Alling


On 9/11/2012 12:25 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

On 9/11/2012 4:37 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Well just to rub some glass in the wound lets see how many of this
mook's predictions came true.


Peter, the Photokina hasn't started yet. I think that it would be
prudent to hold your hammer until it ends...



But Boris, where's the fun it that?


The joy of anticipation in a deferred gratification perhaps?

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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Igor Roshchin
Tue Sep 11 11:58:10 EDT 2012
William Robb wrote:

 On 11/09/2012 9:12 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 
  It would be an interesting experiment to specifically try for moire.
 
 
 Post your results on pentax forums and get them all worked up about how 
 crappy the camera is.
 You don't have to specifically try for moire. I've used cameras that 
 have no AA filter. It's amazing what will cause it.
 Window screens, car grills, chain link fence, anything with a repetitive 
 pattern can cause it depending on the magnification.

Back in 2007, I posted this photo with plenty of blur and moire
(taken with *ist DS):
http://www.komkon.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Zoo/IMGP7964.jpg

:-)

Cheers,

Igor


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M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
Hi team,

Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
knew a group of people who might ;-)

--

in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
on the body or with infinity focus?

I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...

Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.

---


Any experience with this?

TIA


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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/11/12 1:31 PM, Bob W wrote:


Lady Bug is a helluva picture. So are Old School and I hope you dance. All
the shots of that little girl are good, but those three are outstanding.

B


Thanks, Bob. That little girl is my daughter, Nat, who is my favorite 
model. I think you can see why.


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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I found some third-party adapters to be a poor fit, which can lead to problems. 
The Pentax adapter works fine, but to release it, you have to reach into the 
gap in the adapter and lift the little spring that locks it in place. Never had 
problems with infinity focus.
Paul


On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Hi team,
 
 Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
 knew a group of people who might ;-)
 
 --
 
 in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?
 
 ...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
 on the body or with infinity focus?
 
 I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
 adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
 adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...
 
 Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.
 
 ---
 
 
 Any experience with this?
 
 TIA
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your comments, Bob.

Actually, I thought I did a pretty good job of hiding my reflection.
I was so busy doing that, however, that I didn't notice the man with
the sunglasses visible through the windshield!

Also, as I said upstream, I was trying to depict the car while at the
same time showing a bit of the event in which it was displayed, by
including some of the spectators on the sidewalk and the car passing
by.  In retrospect, I should have picked one of the other, and
modified the image accordingly.

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Bruce Walker

 I'm afraid busy is what this one says to me too. My eyes don't know
 where to go. I like the little touches though, like the collection of
 flags in front.

 I feel that, faced with this scene, I'd either pull back, go wide and
 take in more surroundings or go in close for details. My own tendency
 is to go for details as I don't have the chops yet to figure out a good
 wide angle composition. I'm hoping that Bob Walkden will publish a book
 on that subject.

  On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
 danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772
 

 Well, that's very flattering, but unlikely to happen. If I know more than
 other people about composition it's only because I'm a couple of pages ahead
 of them in the book, not because I'm any great expert on it.

 I've never been one for car photography - Paul Stenquist's your man for
 that. The only car I've ever tried to photograph was my MGB Roadster, which
 I photographed from a distance on a coast road. The pictures weren't very
 good.

 In the case of this car, you have to take what you can get where you find
 it, and Dan's done a good job in the circumstances. In ideal circumstances
 you'd take it out into the countryside somewhere and photograph it in
 action. Failing that, I think you can probably get something by getting
 further back and photographing it with a long lens from a relatively low
 angle. I wouldn't photograph it close up with a wide-angle lens because I
 don't particularly like the distortion it causes, or the fact that you can't
 hide your reflection, but it depends on what you want to show.

 B


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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I also have the Pentax adapter, and never noticed any infinity focus
problem.  As Paul stated, it can be a bit tricky to release and remove
the adapter, but the Pentax version come with a little tool that makes
the task easier.
Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 I found some third-party adapters to be a poor fit, which can lead to 
 problems. The Pentax adapter works fine, but to release it, you have to reach 
 into the gap in the adapter and lift the little spring that locks it in 
 place. Never had problems with infinity focus.
 Paul


 On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Hi team,

 Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
 knew a group of people who might ;-)

 --

 in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

 ...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
 on the body or with infinity focus?

 I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
 adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
 adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...

 Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.

 ---


 Any experience with this?

 TIA


 --


 Cheers,
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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The M42 to K-Mount adapter was designed as part of the transition from
M42 to K-mount in the 1970s to allow owners buy a new Pentax body and
make use of their existing complement of M42 lenses. It is designed to
mount into the K-mount body and lock there in order to facilitate
changing M42 lenses.
- You fit it onto the lens and bayonet the assembly into place to fit
the adapter.
- When you remove the lens from the camera, the mount adapter stays
in place to allow you to use other M42 lenses.
- You release the adapter by slipping a thin screwdriver blade or
feeler gauge into a slot on the adapter to release the catch and then
pull it out of the K-beyonet coupling.

It works perfectly for its intended purpose.

I would never go with cheap alternatives on any lens mounting
component. Good quality alternatives are always useful. :-)

Some of the third party alternatives are good quality: they were
designed to be fitted to the lens and to change with the lens. A key
difference between the good ones and the poor ones, aside from
material and finish quality, is that most of the good ones include
include a ridge to press in the auto-diaphragm pin on M42 lenses and
stop down the aperture. This is not important for Pentax M42 lenses
... all of them have an auto-manual diaphragm operation switch on the
lens ... but becomes important for various third party lenses which
lacked the A-M switch. If you don't have an A-M switch on the lens and
you don't have the adapter with the ridge in it, the lens will always
be at wide open aperture.

I had a couple of the originals and had one fitted to each lens I was
going to use, with a thread-locking fluid (temporary, not permanent)
on the threads to keep it there. I'd removed the locking catch for the
body so that each lens simply mounted and unmounted like a K-bayonet
lens.
-- 
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 Hi team,

 Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
 knew a group of people who might ;-)

 --

 in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

 ...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
 on the body or with infinity focus?

 I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
 adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
 adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...

 Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.

 ---


 Any experience with this?

 TIA


 --


 Cheers,
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RE: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread J.C. O'Connell
by the way, the official name of the pentax version is mount adapter k.
I have a few of them and they work and fit fine.

-
J.C.O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Stenquist
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:08 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

I found some third-party adapters to be a poor fit, which can lead to
problems. The Pentax adapter works fine, but to release it, you have to
reach into the gap in the adapter and lift the little spring that locks it
in place. Never had problems with infinity focus.
Paul


On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 Hi team,
 
 Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
 knew a group of people who might ;-)
 
 --
 
 in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?
 
 ...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
 on the body or with infinity focus?
 
 I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
 adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
 adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...
 
 Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.
 
 ---
 
 
 Any experience with this?
 
 TIA
 
 
 -- 
 
 
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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist
I enjoyed the photo, as includes a nice car shot in good light and interesting 
stuff going on all around it. It crossed my mind that I probably wouldn't have 
pulled the trigger on this, given the busy background. But I think your result 
is worthwhile. It's not a good car photo, but it is , in many ways, a good 
photo. It held my attention, and that's the ultimate test, IMO.

Paul


On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dan,
 Busy, Busy, Busy!
 There is a lot going on in the photo,
 not only with the car,
 but also with the background!
 I imagine this is by design.
 Nice image.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772
 
 Comments will be appreciated.
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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tom C


From: Doug Franklin do...@nutdriver.org
On 2012-09-10 18:23, Darren Addy wrote:

Not a lot to input here, but I think the most important considerations
should be: CPU horsepower (i7), maximum RAM (and I'd load it up,
preferably 16GB minimum), and connectivity [...]


I disagree, to a point.  In his shoes, I'd get less CPU, more RAM, and
faster storage.  Photos have a huge impact on storage, especially if
you're using Adobe programs (assuming they're still doing the 'we know
better than the OS how to manage memory' thing).


Even though I've worked in IT for 32 years, I'll be the first to admit
that I don't know it all. Each (I) tend to work in niches of IT and
therefore many areas are outside our (my) realm of specific expertise.
Technology is moving at such a pace, that what one knew 3 years ago
doesn't hold sway today. I work in business applications software
development. Therefore hardware is generally outside my area, though I
understand terminology and concepts.

I'd like an i7 CPU. I can't tell the difference between the various
versions of it. Yeah I see the minor differences in speed and cache,
but in real noticeable terms what does that mean? Is it worth $200 or
$500 for a different version? I suspect not.

More RAM? I think that could make a noticeable difference. 16G vs 24G
vs 32G? I have no idea other than that more could be better but also
possibly overkill.

I haven't researched the mSATA drive stuff that's available. Can
someone explain what that means?

My gut tells me that in addition to CPU, RAM and SSD drives are the
items that will enhance performance as far as speed is concerned. The
slowest component in a system will drag down all other others.


One of the workshops I attended as part of the annual convention for 
Professional Photographers of NC was a short class on specifying a 
computer optimized for Photoshop. I'll try to summarize succinctly.


Intel i7 - offered in several tiers. The second tier is good enough for 
PhotoShop and has a really big price discount off the top tier CPU. 
Probably moot for laptops. You're going to get whatever the manufacturer 
chooses. If the manufacturer offers several different CPUs, choose the 
one with the biggest L1 cache.


Hard-drives - 3 of them; boot, scratch  storage. A laptop won't do 
this, but there are a bunch that have the option for two hard-drives. 
The key is to try to put PhotoShop's scratch disk on a different drive 
from Windows virtual memory. Hard-drives are the easiest thing to 
upgrade later, even on a laptop.


RAM - RAM is cheap (relatively) it's easier to just max it out. Whatever 
the maximum the motherboard will accept is how much you need, because 
if you buy the RAM when you buy the motherboard, there's no worry later 
if you'll be able to find the right RAM to upgrade. If you have enough 
RAM, PhotoShop will never use the scratch-disk.


Video - should have 1Gig of ram itself  support Open-GL.

The key point here is RAM. Max it out from the very start, because 
that's going to be the most difficult (most expensive) to upgrade later. 
You can frequently get a big discount on RAM from the manufacturer if 
you upgrade to max RAM when you order your laptop.


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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
The Pentax adapter works better than any other, the only caveats really 
are that you need a lens with an auto/manual switch, and when removing 
the lens from the camera the adapter stays with the camera.  To remove 
it the locking spring visible through one of the cutouts must be 
released.  A strong fingernail is good enough but a small thin blade, 
(knife or screwdriver), works as well. Now some non Pentax m42 lenses 
have external indexing systems for wide open metering that can interfere 
with proper mounting and operation on a K mount camera, (Mamyia Sekor 
TL/DTL are a system I know has this problem), Fujifilm m42 lenses use a 
similar system, I don't know if there's a problem with them as well.


On 9/11/2012 1:50 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

Hi team,

Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
knew a group of people who might ;-)

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in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
on the body or with infinity focus?

I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...

Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.

---


Any experience with this?

TIA





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M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread luiz felipe
I started using M42 to Pk adapters almost since the Pk release, have 
used the original version (more than one copy) in KM, K2, Ricoh XR10, 
Lx, Mz5, PZ70, Pz1p and Mx, and never had infinity issues unless the 
camera was off the spec somehow. Yes, that happened with the K2, and 
later with the Lx.


The original adapter by Pentax was designed to remain in the camera 
until a spring was pushed and the adapter released. I almost at once 
fitted the adapter to the lens, removing the spring. Never had one of my 
adapters stuck into the camera, have one that is shallower than the 
others - if I screw it to the end on the lens, the combo will not fit 
into the camera - any camera - so I have it spaced from the lens flange. 
Works fine this way.


Here in BR some home-made adapters appeared lately, but they won't 
focus to infinity - they place the lens farther from the camera. I'd 
stick to original if possible, even spending some $15 extra.


At least one lens - russian made 55mm, can't remember exact model, had 
to be adjusted - the lens had a small, almost cubic appendix that would 
get too deep into the camera (Mx) so I removed it. And also made the 
aperture blades closed by default, since the Mx wouldn't push the 
auto-aperture pin.


Hope this helps,

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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread John Sessoms

High Dollar perhaps?

I think they should have kept SMC and added HD to it. Your old 
lenses had SMC coating and your new lenses have SMC-HD coating. 
Build the brand on what everybody already knows is one of its strengths, 
instead of starting all over.


I get the feeling that's what the K5 II represents. It's an interim 
place holder because Ricoh has Pentax starting all over again. I really 
think Pentax has gotten behind because of the sale to Hoya and the sale 
again to Ricoh. And they're still flailing around trying to figure out 
what people will want to buy.


Meanwhile Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic et al have new product out 
there, and they're eating Pentax's lunch.


I understand there's not enough of us here at PDML to buy the numbers of 
cameras  lenses Pentax needs to sell in order to remain viable, so that 
Pentax has to attract new users. But it seems Pentax is trying to 
attract those new buyers by me toing Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic ... 
and I just don't think that's going to work. I don't think Pentax has a 
future if they're always going to be a day late  a dollar short in the 
market.


One of Pentax's biggest selling points was VALUE - you always got more 
for your money. Pentax might be six months behind whatever the latest 
gimmick was, but when the product hit the street, it would do it better 
and cost you less. I don't see that happening now.



From: J.C. O'Connell


A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.

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I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list, was
it?

But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment



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PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Since the image was seen as too busy, I tried cropping it to show the
flashy details around the grill, without all of the distractions.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16454893

Comments, particularly those comparing the above with the earlier
version, will be apprciated.

Earlier version:  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772size=md
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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jan van Wijk


On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 06:05:02 -0400 J.C. O'Connell wrote:


A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.


The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or
something completely different ...

Regards, JvW



Which do you think would serve Pentax better in the marketplace SMC-HD 
or HD-SMC?


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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
You always know you're dealing with consummate professionals when they 
have a lousy web site and a hotmail account.


On 9/4/2012 10:09 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

I LOLed. :-)

Did you visit the URL? *Such* a poor name choice, but a fairly even
match to the product. :-/


On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:03 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

My mind swims at the possibilities:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html

Ideas?  Do we want to know?

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO - So Many Questions

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling

I think not.

On 9/4/2012 10:03 PM, frank theriault wrote:

My mind swims at the possibilities:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/so-many-questions.html

Ideas?  Do we want to know?

;-)

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Don Guthrie

Very sharp with warm colors a classic indeed.



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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772

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RE: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread John Celio
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM,  pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
 even say what hd stands for.

 The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

 Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or
 something completely different ...

 Regards, JvW


 Which do you think would serve Pentax better in the marketplace SMC-HD
 or HD-SMC?

SMC-HD. It keeps the SMC label prominent and adds the acronym that
modern consumers know means high definition. HD on its own is almost
meaningless due to the term's hypersaturation in tech marketing
culture, but adding it after Pentax's long-lived SMC label indicates
to new users that it's good quality and to old users that it's an
update of a well-known technology.

Switching to HD on its own is a really bad idea, in my opinion.

John

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Re:OT Millefiori - Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a, magnetic field

2012-09-11 Thread Don Guthrie


I don't understand what it is nor do I care. It is gorgeous.



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Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field ...

http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/Millefiori/4036035

More background ...

http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/fabian-oefner

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Re: OT: High Performance Laptops

2012-09-11 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-10 23:25 Tom C wrote


My gut tells me that in addition to CPU, RAM and SSD drives are the
items that will enhance performance as far as speed is concerned. The
slowest component in a system will drag down all other others.


for some apps, the GPU is very important; i can't tell you what that will mean 
in Windows world, but in OS X world it means a lot



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M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steve Cottrell

Hi team,

Had a question from a mate - I don't know the answer but I told him I
knew a group of people who might ;-)

--

in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
on the body or with infinity focus?

I've trawled the Pentax forums, most recommend the genuine Pentax
adapter which is expensive and hard to find - But, the genuine Pentax
adapter itself is by all accounts, not perfect...

Wondering whether to chance it with a cheapo alternative.

---


Any experience with this?


I have the Pentax screw-mount adapter. Haven't used it in a while 
because I no longer need to use the one screw mount lens I have (Vivitar 
20mm f/3.5).


I never noticed any problems with infinity focus, but the adapter is a 
PITA to get back out. It's not really stuck. There's a little tab you 
have to release  it's kind of hard to manipulate.


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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Don Guthrie
Probably a better car photo this way but I was fine with parade 
atmosphere of the 1st one even the guy in the windshield. So two 
different photos of same thing.



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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:38 -0400
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Subject: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)
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Since the image was seen as too busy, I tried cropping it to show the
flashy details around the grill, without all of the distractions.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16454893

Comments, particularly those comparing the above with the earlier
version, will be apprciated.

Earlier version:http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772size=md
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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread steve harley

on 2012-09-11 11:50 Steve Cottrell wrote

in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?

...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
on the body or with infinity focus?


i have a no-name adapter from ebay that i've used with my Macro-Takumar 50mm 
with good results, including infinity focus; it is brass, not aluminum, and 
fairly well machined (not fastidiously deburred); it came with a removal tool, 
but i also removed the spring, which makes it easier to remove from the body, 
and just snugged it on the lens and used care (a little temporary thread goo 
like Godfrey suggests is a good idea if it will stay on a particular lens)


the one i got is still listed by user astwise at $12 but ships to US only


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Re: OT Millefiori - Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Just goes to show you, there's no universal measure of beauty. I'm
guessing that you prefer your colour palette muted, Ann. I find these
images quite beautiful, myself. There's a bit of the 1960's Yellow
Submarine graphic style to them as well. All curves and tubes in
dayglo colour.

I like those rock images you ref'ed too, Ann. Very cool. Thanks!


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 OMG it's Keith Haring meets Peter Max

 Interesting but kinda ugly

  - much prettier (to me)  are thin sections of rock
 photo'ed through a microscope under cross-polarized light.

 http://www.jeffreycreid.com/petrography/pet_igneous.html

 More like the abstract expressionists than the pop-artists

 ann


 On 9/11/2012 08:53, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Ferrofluid mixed with water colors in a magnetic field ...

 http://www.photographyserved.com/gallery/Millefiori/4036035

 More background ...

 http://www.itsnicethat.com/articles/fabian-oefner


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Re: PESO: Classic Ford

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Paul and Don, for your comments.

For what it may be worth, this image was accepted by the PPG.

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Very sharp with warm colors a classic indeed.



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Re: Android web browser for viewing photos?

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote:

For the most part, I'm very happy with my new Galaxy S3 phone.  

Looking at photos on the web browser sucks, which is surprising because the 
gallery does a pretty good job.

I just tried downloading the flickr app for showing off my photos, but it 
doesn't seem to have any way of viewing collections, which is a real pain 
because that's how I organize my photos.

What android apps to you use for viewing photos on the web?

I use Opera Mobile as the web browser on my Android tablet.
 
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Don.  I did this version partly because of comments that the
first version was busy, and mostly just to see whether it would work
better this way.  I like them both, and now I have to decide which to
use for my calendar of images from Somerville's Car Night activities.

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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Probably a better car photo this way but I was fine with parade atmosphere
 of the 1st one even the guy in the windshield. So two different photos of
 same thing.


 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 10
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:38 -0400
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 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)
 Message-ID:

 CAOmwt1ztBmpZ8qp=uBMjWtgD0A-zFj_AxuA=kuk6+p5g-sy...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


 Since the image was seen as too busy, I tried cropping it to show the
 flashy details around the grill, without all of the distractions.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16454893

 Comments, particularly those comparing the above with the earlier
 version, will be apprciated.

 Earlier version:http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772size=md
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Yeah, I quite like that, Dan.

My issue with the original wasn't that it showed the crowd and the guy
in the windshield. It was that for it to work as a document of the car
meet, it needed to show *more* crowd, passers-by, activity,
surrounding storefronts, etc. The car needed to be a smaller element
of that scene. As it was, it suggested the car alone was the subject,
but with distractions around it. It's a balance thing. Like two equal
subjects fighting for dominance.


On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Probably a better car photo this way but I was fine with parade atmosphere
 of the 1st one even the guy in the windshield. So two different photos of
 same thing.


 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

 Message: 10
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:43:38 -0400
 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)
 Message-ID:

 CAOmwt1ztBmpZ8qp=uBMjWtgD0A-zFj_AxuA=kuk6+p5g-sy...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8


 Since the image was seen as too busy, I tried cropping it to show the
 flashy details around the grill, without all of the distractions.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16454893

 Comments, particularly those comparing the above with the earlier
 version, will be apprciated.

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Re: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM,  pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they 
 didnt
 even say what hd stands for.

 The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

 Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or
 something completely different ...

 Regards, JvW


 Which do you think would serve Pentax better in the marketplace SMC-HD
 or HD-SMC?

 SMC-HD. It keeps the SMC label prominent and adds the acronym that
 modern consumers know means high definition. HD on its own is almost
 meaningless due to the term's hypersaturation in tech marketing
 culture, but adding it after Pentax's long-lived SMC label indicates
 to new users that it's good quality and to old users that it's an
 update of a well-known technology.

 Switching to HD on its own is a really bad idea, in my opinion.

Well, since we appear to have a consensus here, I believe that's settled.

Over to Pentax Ricoh now ...

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Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image

2012-09-11 Thread kwaller

Thanks Wendy.


A friend of mine just got back last week from a trip to the same area.


We had unbelievable weather on our week only a few hours of rain for the 
entire week.


Maybe we were shipmates? She wasn't on the Sea Lion,  was she?

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PESO - Alaska Coastal image



Brilliant shot!
A friend of mine just got back last week from a trip to the same area.
Looking forward to seeing her shots too.

Wendy

On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 2:40 PM,  kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
Returned earler this week from 10 days in South Eastern Alaska mostly on 
a

boat in the inside passage.
A great place to capture marine life.

Captured this Stellar Sea Lion around the Inian Islands while on a 
Zodiak.

20D, 300mm f4.5 FA ISO 400.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16442772

Comments appreciated - thanks in advance.

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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 On 9/10/12 3:26 PM, George Sinos wrote:

 Something strange seems to be going on over at posterous.

 Try this link -www.crankygreek.com

 George Sinos


 Twitter bought posterous, and seem to have abandoned it. I've moved what I
 had there over to wordpress (http://dougbrewer.wordpress.com) and will nuke
 the remains soon, after I give all six of my fans a chance to catch up.

Thought I'd mention Tumblr as a possible.

Posterous has been driving my wife crazy for the last few weeks too. I
convinced her to give Tumblr a shot, and after a bit of swearing I
think she's settling in there now. I had been testing it on one
project theme of my own and I find it to be quite satisfactory.

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Re: PESO - Baldwin Street

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Really pleasing bw rendering, Frank. It's a fine looking shot.


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 Another weekend in Kensington Market.  No big whoop, just some folks
 out having a bit of fun:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/09/baldwin-street.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: The Church Project Continues

2012-09-11 Thread George Sinos
Actually, I started with blogger quite a few years ago.   When
posterous came on the scene, I thought I might use it as a central hub
to send things everywhere else.  I've always used it to keep the old
blogger site in synch with the posterous site.  Now that blogger and
g+ work together I'll be dropping posterous.

I've never really had a problem with it until yesterday.  I just don't
need to use it as I had envisioned.

gs

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 Something strange seems to be going on over at posterous.

 Try this link -www.crankygreek.com

 George Sinos


 and I see you have done a similar move over to blogger/blogspot, to follow
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
two equal subjects fighting for dominance.

That is at times a temptation for me.  I have to remember the subject
of the image in my mind, and to try to convey that, without being
distracted to include things not part of the subject or theme, just
because they are there.

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 two equal
 subjects fighting for dominance.

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Re: KEH enablement and advice for Canadians

2012-09-11 Thread Steve Sharpe

At 11:42 AM +1000 9/11/12, Paul Ewins wrote:

Hi Steve,
		I'm not Canadian (although I have been to Lunenburg) 
but when I order from the KEH website I get the option of USPS 
Priority near the end of the checkout process. It initially defaults 
to Fedex when it is quoting the postage but I get to change that 
when I actually make the order.


Paul Ewins
Melbourne, Australia


I didn't go that far. When it wanted my cc info I stopped and started 
complaining by email at them. Up to that point the only option I saw 
was Fedex.


If they do offer other shipping options on their site they should 
make that apparent right at the start. I'll bet they scare off a lot 
of customers by only quoting the most expensive shipping option at 
the start.


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Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 10, 2012, at 09:54 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:11 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
 On 09/09/2012 09:10, Bob W wrote:
 
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 mike wilson
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posterior_vitreous_detachment
 
 I've never heard of that before. Sounds like one more shitty thing to
 look forward to as my body crumbles under the weight of increasing years.
 
 Did she fix it?
 
 Unfixable.  The jelly in the big part of your eye liquifies as you get
 older and pulls away from the retina.  Trying to glue liquid to anything is
 a fool's game.
 
 Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway?

It is a result of our living almost twice our designed lifespan. Other than 
injury, no one would experience this if we all died at 45.



It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long..
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Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Sep 10, 2012, at 11:08 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Not only is Mike out of warranty, but you can't return him to the
 manufacturer's!

Yes, you can.

Dust to dust
.
 
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway?
 
 The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years.
 
 So Mike's out of warranty, then?


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Totally OT - iFhone 5 and Hologram comeback

2012-09-11 Thread Igor Roshchin


http://www.buzzpatrol.com/steve-jobs-comes-back-as-a-hologram-to-promote-the-ifhone-5/

Larry and Boris, - it references the Galaxy ;-)


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Re: Android web browser for viewing photos?

2012-09-11 Thread Tom C
 For the most part, I'm very happy with my new Galaxy S3 phone.

 Looking at photos on the web browser sucks, which is surprising because the 
 gallery does a pretty good job.

 I just tried downloading the flickr app for showing off my photos, but it 
 doesn't seem to have any way of viewing collections, which is a real pain 
 because that's how I organize my photos.

 What android apps to you use for viewing photos on the web?

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 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est

Get an Apple iPhone. I'm sure you wouldn't have these problems if
you're equipment was Kosher. :

Tom C.

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Re: Android web browser for viewing photos?

2012-09-11 Thread Tom C
Truthfully,

I generally download a photo to the gallery if I really want to see it
as opposed to viewing in the browser, especially on a phone-size
device.

Tom C.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote:
 For the most part, I'm very happy with my new Galaxy S3 phone.

 Looking at photos on the web browser sucks, which is surprising because the 
 gallery does a pretty good job.

 I just tried downloading the flickr app for showing off my photos, but it 
 doesn't seem to have any way of viewing collections, which is a real pain 
 because that's how I organize my photos.

 What android apps to you use for viewing photos on the web?

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 Get an Apple iPhone. I'm sure you wouldn't have these problems if
 you're equipment was Kosher. :

 Tom C.

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Re: Android web browser for viewing photos?

2012-09-11 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 11, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Tom C wrote:
 
 
 Get an Apple iPhone. I'm sure you wouldn't have these problems if
 you're equipment was Kosher. :

If you must get personal about it, my equipment's been kosher since I was eight 
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Re: OT Posterior vitreous detachment

2012-09-11 Thread mike wilson

On 11/09/2012 15:27, Bob Sullivan wrote:

I first noticed floaters when I was 12 or 13.


This isn't just the occasional mote in the eye.  This is a whole plank 
turned to sawdust and shoved in there.



Sometimes they drive me crazy.
I know where to come now for medical advice.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:

On 10/09/2012 19:04, Mark Roberts wrote:


Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote:


On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
wrote:


Well who in hell thought *that* was a good eye design anyway?



The requirements indicated a design lifetime of 30 years.



So Mike's out of warranty, then?



I was going to respond with a joke about coming out of the back door of the
factory but on second thoughts

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Re: M42 to K-mount adapter question

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Ewins
I have had a third party adapter stick on the body. I had to remove the entire 
k-mount from the body so that I could get at the back of it to dislodge the 
adapter. 

Paul


On 12/09/2012, at 3:50 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:

 
 in your Pentax days, did you ever use an M42 to K-mount adapter?
 
 ...and if you did, did you have any problems with the adapter sticking
 on the body or with infinity focus?
 


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OT Photoshop News Network- 2012 Photoshop Convention

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Walker
Parody election coverage on PNN ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HHfQ2M-IeI

Epic levels of in-jokery, but if you know the players and the
software, this is very funny. (7:30 mins)

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PESO: Jazz Singer

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
From the outdoor Jazz Festival in our town this past Sunday:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16455293
Comments are always welcome.
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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Sep 10, 2012, at 20:03 , John Francis wrote:

 Agreed. These new cameras aren't going to tempt many people to upgrade
 from a K-5. They're probably not intended to.
 
 The diiferences I spot on the K-5 II are:
 
 o  Better auto-focus  (this is the big one from where I'm sitting)

But they never say how much better. If it isn't an Industry Breakthrough it 
is probably about the same as the K-10 to K-7 improvement. Just a little bit.

 
 o  Improved rear LCD (brighter  sharper, but same size  resolution)

Retina Display?
 
 o  SDXC memory card compatibility (or was that added in a K5 firware upgrade?)
 
Don't remember. Don't have any of the XC cards, nor do I need them. Yet.
 
 Everything else looks to be the same as the K-5.  Am I forgetting anything?

Nothing that hasn't already been moved back behind the green curtain. (OZ)


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OT: Reason to always have a wide angle lens with you

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://themetapicture.com/brilliant-ad/
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I like the cropped version, you can fix a lot of problems with judicious 
cropping.


On 9/11/2012 2:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Since the image was seen as too busy, I tried cropping it to show the
flashy details around the grill, without all of the distractions.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16454893

Comments, particularly those comparing the above with the earlier
version, will be apprciated.

Earlier version:  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16453772size=md
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Isolate, simplify  define works for me.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

two equal subjects fighting for dominance.

That is at times a temptation for me.  I have to remember the subject
of the image in my mind, and to try to convey that, without being
distracted to include things not part of the subject or theme, just
because they are there.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


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Re: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think Pentax is flailing around trying to figure out what people 
want to buy.  I think they know. They just couldn't get it done in time 
with the constraints they're working under.


First people want to buy full frame K-3, some will settle for a full 
frame K-03.


If they can't have that a K-5n (notice not the II) with the Sony 24 mp 
sensor, would have caused grumbling but I bet 90% of the PDML would have 
one within the next 6 months.  I expect 99% of the Pentax forums members 
would have had one within a year complaining bitterly all the while.


I think Pentax would also be able to sell a fare number of K-02 cameras 
assuming it was a K-01 with a built in EVF.


There are a few problems however, for the K-3 and K-03 there would be 
only 7 current lenses that are guaranteed to to cover the whole frame.  
Those designated DA would probably automatically crop to APS-C.


The 24mp sensor won't have the stellar noise control of the 16mp sensor 
in current use.  It will probably be better than Sony's implementation, 
by a little, which is already good, but not as good as the 16mp.


Right now the 16mp sensor in the K-5 is still the reigning champion for 
APS-C quality at DxOMark, two years after it's introduction.  Maybe 
Pentax didn't see any way to keep that record short of going full frame, 
and doesn't want to go full frame unless they can announce a raft of new 
lenses at the same time.


Then again maybe there will be a surprise announcement of a FF K-3 
before the end of Photokina, but that does seem pretty unlikely.




On 9/11/2012 2:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

High Dollar perhaps?

I think they should have kept SMC and added HD to it. Your old 
lenses had SMC coating and your new lenses have SMC-HD coating. 
Build the brand on what everybody already knows is one of its 
strengths, instead of starting all over.


I get the feeling that's what the K5 II represents. It's an interim 
place holder because Ricoh has Pentax starting all over again. I 
really think Pentax has gotten behind because of the sale to Hoya and 
the sale again to Ricoh. And they're still flailing around trying to 
figure out what people will want to buy.


Meanwhile Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic et al have new product out 
there, and they're eating Pentax's lunch.


I understand there's not enough of us here at PDML to buy the numbers 
of cameras  lenses Pentax needs to sell in order to remain viable, so 
that Pentax has to attract new users. But it seems Pentax is trying to 
attract those new buyers by me toing Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic 
... and I just don't think that's going to work. I don't think Pentax 
has a future if they're always going to be a day late  a dollar short 
in the market.


One of Pentax's biggest selling points was VALUE - you always got more 
for your money. Pentax might be six months behind whatever the latest 
gimmick was, but when the product hit the street, it would do it 
better and cost you less. I don't see that happening now.



From: J.C. O'Connell

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. 
they didnt

even say what hd stands for.

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I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's 
list, was

it?

But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment






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Re: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread P. J. Alling

On 9/11/2012 4:26 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM, John Celio
neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:45 AM,  pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
even say what hd stands for.

The press release on pentaximaging.com says its 'High Definition'.

Not sure if they see it as a variant/additive to SMC as in 'SMC-HD' or
something completely different ...

Regards, JvW


Which do you think would serve Pentax better in the marketplace SMC-HD
or HD-SMC?

SMC-HD. It keeps the SMC label prominent and adds the acronym that
modern consumers know means high definition. HD on its own is almost
meaningless due to the term's hypersaturation in tech marketing
culture, but adding it after Pentax's long-lived SMC label indicates
to new users that it's good quality and to old users that it's an
update of a well-known technology.

Switching to HD on its own is a really bad idea, in my opinion.

Well, since we appear to have a consensus here, I believe that's settled.

Over to Pentax Ricoh now ...

I think they've already engraved the lens identification in quantity, so 
HD it will remain.


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Re: Pentax announcements official

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:19 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think Pentax is flailing around trying to figure out what people want 
 to buy.  I think they know. They just couldn't get it done in time with the 
 constraints they're working under.
 
 First people want to buy full frame K-3, some will settle for a full frame 
 K-03.

I think the market for full frame is very small, and I think Pentax knows that. 
They're sticking with the high volume products, while trying to please the 
advance amateurs as much as possible. A solid strategy that I'm okay with.

Paul
 
 If they can't have that a K-5n (notice not the II) with the Sony 24 mp 
 sensor, would have caused grumbling but I bet 90% of the PDML would have one 
 within the next 6 months.  I expect 99% of the Pentax forums members would 
 have had one within a year complaining bitterly all the while.
 
 I think Pentax would also be able to sell a fare number of K-02 cameras 
 assuming it was a K-01 with a built in EVF.
 
 There are a few problems however, for the K-3 and K-03 there would be only 7 
 current lenses that are guaranteed to to cover the whole frame.  Those 
 designated DA would probably automatically crop to APS-C.
 
 The 24mp sensor won't have the stellar noise control of the 16mp sensor in 
 current use.  It will probably be better than Sony's implementation, by a 
 little, which is already good, but not as good as the 16mp.
 
 Right now the 16mp sensor in the K-5 is still the reigning champion for APS-C 
 quality at DxOMark, two years after it's introduction.  Maybe Pentax didn't 
 see any way to keep that record short of going full frame, and doesn't want 
 to go full frame unless they can announce a raft of new lenses at the same 
 time.
 
 Then again maybe there will be a surprise announcement of a FF K-3 before the 
 end of Photokina, but that does seem pretty unlikely.
 
 
 
 On 9/11/2012 2:43 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 High Dollar perhaps?
 
 I think they should have kept SMC and added HD to it. Your old lenses 
 had SMC coating and your new lenses have SMC-HD coating. Build the brand 
 on what everybody already knows is one of its strengths, instead of starting 
 all over.
 
 I get the feeling that's what the K5 II represents. It's an interim place 
 holder because Ricoh has Pentax starting all over again. I really think 
 Pentax has gotten behind because of the sale to Hoya and the sale again to 
 Ricoh. And they're still flailing around trying to figure out what people 
 will want to buy.
 
 Meanwhile Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic et al have new product out there, 
 and they're eating Pentax's lunch.
 
 I understand there's not enough of us here at PDML to buy the numbers of 
 cameras  lenses Pentax needs to sell in order to remain viable, so that 
 Pentax has to attract new users. But it seems Pentax is trying to attract 
 those new buyers by me toing Nikon, Canon, Sony, Panasonic ... and I just 
 don't think that's going to work. I don't think Pentax has a future if 
 they're always going to be a day late  a dollar short in the market.
 
 One of Pentax's biggest selling points was VALUE - you always got more for 
 your money. Pentax might be six months behind whatever the latest gimmick 
 was, but when the product hit the street, it would do it better and cost you 
 less. I don't see that happening now.
 
 
 From: J.C. O'Connell
 
 A new coating is cool but I agree, calling it hd is questionable. they didnt
 even say what hd stands for.
 
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 Subject: Re: Pentax announcements official
 
 I don't think a lens coating replacement for SMC was on anyone's list, was
 it?
 
 But why oh why did they call it HD? Is this some marketing dweeb's
 clever idea to get people to see HD in more places on the equipment
 
 
 
 
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 Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a 
 lengthly search.
 
 
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Re: Pentax releases data

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 On Sep 10, 2012, at 20:03 , John Francis wrote:
 
 Agreed. These new cameras aren't going to tempt many people to upgrade
 from a K-5. They're probably not intended to.
 
 The diiferences I spot on the K-5 II are:
 
 o  Better auto-focus  (this is the big one from where I'm sitting)
 
 But they never say how much better. If it isn't an Industry Breakthrough it 
 is probably about the same as the K-10 to K-7 improvement. Just a little 
 bit.
 

Ir'a hard to quantify improvements in autofocus, but the K-5 is definitely 
deficient in that regard, so I expect a substantial improvement. Hope I'm right.
Paul


 
 o  Improved rear LCD (brighter  sharper, but same size  resolution)
 
 Retina Display?
 
 o  SDXC memory card compatibility (or was that added in a K5 firware 
 upgrade?)
 
 Don't remember. Don't have any of the XC cards, nor do I need them. Yet.
 
 Everything else looks to be the same as the K-5.  Am I forgetting anything?
 
 Nothing that hasn't already been moved back behind the green curtain. (OZ)
 
 
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Re: OT: Reason to always have a wide angle lens with you

2012-09-11 Thread Kenneth Waller
Actually I'd like a mid tele in this situation!

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http://themetapicture.com/brilliant-ad/
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Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

2012-09-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, P.J. and Ken !
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Isolate, simplify  define works for me.

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Subject: Re: PESO: Classic 29 Ford (Cropped)

two equal subjects fighting for dominance.

That is at times a temptation for me.  I have to remember the subject
of the image in my mind, and to try to convey that, without being
distracted to include things not part of the subject or theme, just
because they are there.

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 two equal
 subjects fighting for dominance.



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