Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-08-06 Thread Lester Caine
Christopher Lee wrote: I am new to PHP and wanted to ask a question which I think is related to this discussion thread. What are you referring to when using the term PHP Framework? I downloaded Eclipse-JEE with PHP Development Tools. Would this development environment constitute a PHP

RE: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-08-05 Thread Christopher Lee
, Christopher From: Laruence [larue...@baidu.com] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:19 PM To: Floyd Resler Cc: PHP Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks Hi: if you have high performance need, you can considering Yaf( a PHP framework which is build in PHP extension) http

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-24 Thread Laruence
Hi: if you have high performance need, you can considering Yaf( a PHP framework which is build in PHP extension) http://pecl.php.net/package/Yaf thanks Best regards 惠新宸 Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ On 2011/7/22 20:38, Floyd Resler wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Richard

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-23 Thread mrfroasty
it. Wasalaam, Muhsin On 07/22/2011 11:56 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 21 July 2011 23:56, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-22 Thread Richard Quadling
On 21 July 2011 23:56, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-22 Thread Floyd Resler
On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-22 Thread Richard Quadling
On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Resler fres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP.  Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-22 Thread Floyd Resler
On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Resler fres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build

[PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Chris Stinemetz
Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Paul M Foster
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, Try CodeIgniter ( http

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread shiplu
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Bastien
+1 for CI! it's a joy to work with Bastien Koert 905-904-0334 On 2011-07-21, at 5:20 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get

Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Ashley Sheridan
EBastien phps...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for CI! it's a joy to work with Bastien Koert 905-904-0334 On 2011-07-21, at 5:20 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP

[PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 07/21/2011 03:59 PM, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, So, with your post you will probably get

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
+1 for CI. If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies. So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface? That would be pretty sweet. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Jim Lucas
On 7/21/2011 4:00 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: +1 for CI. If you search the group archives, a little while back I asked about micro PHP frameworks and got a ton of good replies. So folks, how'z about a PHP framework with a built-in admin interface? That would be pretty sweet. :) So, what

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Jim Lucas li...@cmsws.com wrote: So, what would said admin interface allow you to administrate? Your app models? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse rgmi...@gmail.com wrote: Your app models? More specifically, your app model data. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Shawn McKenzie
On 07/21/2011 07:44 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Micky Hulse rgmi...@gmail.com wrote: Your app models? More specifically, your app model data. :) A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. --

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP frameworks

2011-07-21 Thread Micky Hulse
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP.  Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) -- PHP General Mailing List

[PHP] OO oriented PHP frameworks

2011-01-06 Thread Jerome Covington
I was specifically curious if there are frameworks which use the convention of passing config objects to functions/methods in the same way that contemporary JS libraries like jQuery do. -- Regards, Jerome jeromecoving...@gmail.com -- http://www.jeromecovington.com One Plus the World

Re: [PHP] OO oriented PHP frameworks

2011-01-06 Thread David Harkness
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jerome Covington jeromecoving...@gmail.com wrote: I was specifically curious if there are frameworks which use the convention of passing config objects to functions/methods in the same way that contemporary JS libraries like jQuery do. We use Zend Framework

Re: [PHP] Re: Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-14 Thread German Geek
Which framework to use is more of a religious war than anything, but I would recommend Symfony. It has a nice architechture and is very extendable. ++Tim Hinnerk Heuer++ http://www.ihostnz.com 2009/11/13 Sudheer Satyanarayana sudhee...@sudheer.net I doubt you'll get a reasoned bunch of

[PHP] Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-12 Thread Dhanushka Samarakoon
Hi, I need to select a PHP framework for a small project about 20-25 pages (but expected to grow in the future). I was looking at the comparison chart at http://www.phpframeworks.com/. After browsing through some forums seems like CodeIgniter is the popular option. *** But I really like event

[PHP] Re: Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-12 Thread Nathan Rixham
Dhanushka Samarakoon wrote: Hi, I need to select a PHP framework for a small project about 20-25 pages (but expected to grow in the future). I was looking at the comparison chart at http://www.phpframeworks.com/. After browsing through some forums seems like CodeIgniter is the popular

[PHP] Re: Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-12 Thread Dhanushka Samarakoon
Thanks :-) Tried searching the archives, but maybe I was not using the correct search terms. Will give it another try. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: Dhanushka Samarakoon wrote: Hi, I need to select a PHP framework for a small project about 20-25

Re: [PHP] Re: Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-12 Thread richardh
Hi, ... I doubt you'll get a reasoned bunch of suggestions, more a religious war... :-) Still, I like PEAR components. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 graphing: RGraph - www.rgraph.net (updated 8th November) Lots of PHP and Javascript code - http://www.phpguru.org -- PHP General Mailing List

Re: [PHP] Re: Need suggestions on PHP frameworks

2009-11-12 Thread Sudheer Satyanarayana
I doubt you'll get a reasoned bunch of suggestions, more a religious war... :-) Still, I like PEAR components. Exactly. You have to visit the websites of frameworks, comparison articles, etc and find out for yourself which one suits you best. Currently, if I get to decide, I choose ZF

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole thing of Server Side MVC and other yada yada was became joke. Those server siders become JSON pushers for JS frameworks.

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole thing of Server Side MVC and other yada yada was became

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. Whole

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:58 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular environment. The deprecation of usefulness of any technology is based on

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Stuart
2009/3/23 tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com: However, I have heard of new javascript being run server-side. What's the likelihood of that catching on and surpassing php? http://aptana.com/jaxer I really like the idea, but I'm yet to have a good reason to try it. If you're starting from scratch it

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Jesse.Hazen
@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? 2009/3/23 tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com: However, I have heard of new javascript being run server-side. What's the likelihood of that catching on and surpassing php? http://aptana.com/jaxer I really like the idea, but I'm yet to have a good

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Arno Kuhl
-Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Shawn McKenzie
Arno Kuhl wrote: -Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bastien Koert
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.netwrote: Arno Kuhl wrote: -Original Message- From: Sancar Saran [mailto:sancar.sa...@evodot.com] Sent: 23 March 2009 11:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Probably

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread tedd
At 10:50 AM -0400 3/23/09, Bastien Koert wrote: Tedd, JS has been running on MS servers for a long time. It was always viewes as an acceptable replacement for vbscript. Well -- that's been my fear. I think that M$ is trying to get it's foot into this so they can charge for it -- similar to

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:11 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 10:50 AM -0400 3/23/09, Bastien Koert wrote: Tedd, JS has been running on MS servers for a long time. It was always viewes as an acceptable replacement for vbscript. Well -- that's been my fear. I think that M$ is

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Robert Cummings
On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 10:43 -0400, tedd wrote: At 10:24 AM -0400 3/23/09, Robert Cummings wrote: My point is, just because new techniques and technoloigies come out, is in no way a boundary condition on an existing technology's lifespan or efficacy in any particular environment. The

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Sancar Saran
On Monday 23 March 2009 16:24:55 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 15:58 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: On Monday 23 March 2009 12:33:58 Robert Cummings wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 11:52 +0200, Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man.

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Bob McConnell
From: Daniel Kolbo P.P.P.S. What might be nice is to have an online repository of PHP community approved classes, then programmers could mix and match 'modules' as needed...well now I am sounding like that snake oil salesman. You mean something like CPAN over in the Perl arena? Or

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Sancar Saran wrote: Probably a bit off topic and The Game is over man. Javascript coming with flank speed. Next generation JS Framworks will take html generation jobs from server side. No it won't. People are getting sick and tired of allowing third scripts to modify the DOM - browsers are

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Daniel Kolbo wrote: P.P.P.S. What might be nice is to have an online repository of PHP community approved classes, then programmers could mix and match 'modules' as needed...well now I am sounding like that snake oil salesman. There is a php class web site that focuses on OO

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Bob McConnell wrote: However, don't limit it to classes. There are enough non-OO people that collections of usable function libraries should also be worth assembling. I would also suggest including unit test fixtures and utilities in any collection. Bob McConnell Most functions can be

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Phpster
Sorry for top posting, but here goes... Stopping third party js from running on the client will never happen. If so, you just killed your servers thru put in attempting to handle things like google maps, google analytics and other fun things coming out of companies like that ( google, zoho

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-23 Thread Michael A. Peters
Phpster wrote: Sorry for top posting, but here goes... Stopping third party js from running on the client will never happen. If so, you just killed your servers thru put in attempting to handle things like google maps, google analytics and other fun things coming out of companies like that (

[PHP] Frameworks Which Have A Bake Function?

2009-03-22 Thread Nitsan Bin-Nun
Hi Guys, I have been using cakephp for a while as a development framework. I'm also thinking for a while to use another framework and leave cakephp alone (too much babbling.. it takes too much time until you get to the code itself..), now I have decided to move on and here comes my question. Do

Re: [PHP] Frameworks Which Have A Bake Function?

2009-03-22 Thread Nitsan Bin-Nun
Don't forget to attach the message to the list. Regarding the frameworks, which of them, for your opinion, will take the fastest time to learn and get into code? Thanks On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Graham Christensen graham.christen...@iamgraham.net wrote: Look into Doctorine || Propel,

Re: [PHP] Frameworks Which Have A Bake Function?

2009-03-22 Thread Phpster
Qcodo and symfony both have an ORM layer that can do that. They will provide/return and basic set of classes that interact with those tables. Bastien Sent from my iPod On Mar 22, 2009, at 11:52, Nitsan Bin-Nun nit...@binnun.co.il wrote: Hi Guys, I have been using cakephp for a while as a

Re: [PHP] Frameworks Which Have A Bake Function?

2009-03-22 Thread Tony Marston
Nitsan Bin-Nun nit...@binnun.co.il wrote in message news:d47da0100903220910q7bb66706s6255f0fc89b98...@mail.gmail.com... Don't forget to attach the message to the list. Regarding the frameworks, which of them, for your opinion, will take the fastest time to learn and get into code? Generally

[PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-22 Thread Daniel Kolbo
Tony Marston wrote: Nitsan Bin-Nun nit...@binnun.co.il wrote in message news:d47da0100903220910q7bb66706s6255f0fc89b98...@mail.gmail.com... Don't forget to attach the message to the list. Regarding the frameworks, which of them, for your opinion, will take the fastest time to learn and get

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-22 Thread Robert Cummings
On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 10:54 -1000, Daniel Kolbo wrote: Hello, I changed the subject because I did not want to steal Nitsan's thread. I hope you started a New email and didn't just change the subject... otherwise you've hijacked the thread. I can't tell I keep threading off. There seem to

RE: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-22 Thread Marc Christopher Hall
: Daniel Kolbo [mailto:kolb0...@umn.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:54 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Cc: Tony Marston Subject: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Tony Marston wrote: Nitsan Bin-Nun nit...@binnun.co.il wrote in message news:d47da0100903220910q7bb66706s6255f0fc89b98...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate?

2009-03-22 Thread Daniel Kolbo
there. -Original Message- From: Daniel Kolbo [mailto:kolb0...@umn.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 4:54 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Cc: Tony Marston Subject: [PHP] Frameworks / obstinate? Tony Marston wrote: Nitsan Bin-Nun nit...@binnun.co.il wrote in message

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
/ -Original Message- From: Micah Gersten [mailto:news.php@micahscomputing.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:52 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP

RE: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Marc Christopher Hall
seem to be a promising future contender. Thanks - Marc Measure twice and cut once. -Original Message- From: haliphax [mailto:halip...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:00 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Marc Christopher Hall m...@hallmarcwebsites.com wrote: @todd; Micah - Precisely why I presented the question anew. Not only do I not have enough time to troll through the archives; I was looking for a fresher set of responses based on today's smorgasbord. Thank

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Virgilio Quilario
of the developer is a trade-off you're going to have to make for ANY of the frameworks out there. hi, all php frameworks have overheads which you don't have to worry about. those overhead codes are there to make things easy for you so you can focus on building your application. for me, the most important

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the developer is a trade-off you're going to have to make for ANY of the

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs.

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jason Norwood-Young wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that overhead/bloat vs. productivity of the developer is a trade-off you're going to have to

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Jason Norwood-Young
haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing this, I'll say that

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
Jason Norwood-Young wrote: haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Jason Norwood-Young ja...@freespeechpub.co.za wrote: haliphax wrote: Perhaps I should have phrased it a bit more concise: This has been discussed many times--often, and RECENTLY. Anyway, since I'm already writing

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread haliphax
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: haliphax wrote: Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ? You know damn well I didn't. :) -- // Todd -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-09 Thread Nathan Rixham
haliphax wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Nathan Rixham nrix...@gmail.com wrote: haliphax wrote: Framework = Overhead (when compared to vanilla PHP). Period. I'm not by vanilla do you mean vanilla from lussimo? [http://getvanilla.com/] ? You know damn well I didn't. :) I'd love to

[PHP] PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread HallMarc Websites
First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? Thanks, Marc

Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread 9el
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Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 11:54:01PM -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to

[PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread Micah Gersten
HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? Thanks,

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks

2009-03-08 Thread Micah Gersten
-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework

[PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Frank Stanovcak
Ok. I've done some reading on frameworks for PHP now, and have this question. What are some good resources for learning about the various frameworks available, and do you recomend one over another? If so why? I started using PHP before frameworks came into the picture, and then had to take

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Eric Butera
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Frank Stanovcak blindspot...@comcast.net wrote: Ok. I've done some reading on frameworks for PHP now, and have this question. What are some good resources for learning about the various frameworks available, and do you recomend one over another? If so why?

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Bastien Koert
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Frank Stanovcak blindspot...@comcast.netwrote: Ok. I've done some reading on frameworks for PHP now, and have this question. What are some good resources for learning about the various frameworks available, and do you recomend one over another? If so why?

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Nitsan Bin-Nun
He is right. CI is the fastest, but ZEND has awesome flexibility. I usually uses CI, just because it is written in PHP4 and in about 50% of the servers in Israel there is no PHP5 :X But I really like Zend. I will suggest the OP to download the latest CI (as far as I remember the version is

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Skip Evans
Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: I usually uses CI, just because it is written in PHP4 and in about 50% of the servers in Israel there is no PHP5 :X I am just curious. Why is PHP 5 so rare there? -- Skip Evans Big Sky Penguin, LLC 503 S Baldwin St, #1 Madison WI

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Nitsan Bin-Nun
If you would have drawn a graph of technological development of Israel I guess that you would have got something like a straight line with a really big inclination. People here want to start developing online when they doesn't even know the basics, most of the server administrators here installs

Re: [PHP] frameworks

2009-01-30 Thread Skip Evans
Nitsan Bin-Nun wrote: In Israel most of the servesr run centos I first came across centos a few years back at a client's hosting facility and had never heard of it before, though it seems to have a large install base. I heard it's a free version of Enterprise Redhat??? Not sure, though,

[PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Hi all, Maybe this has past the list a couple of times (just like the 'storing images in a DB' question). What I'm after is a framework that is simple, solid, compact and flexible enough to extend by myself. I'm not an OOP person. But I do use classes when I think they fit a purpose. But

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Greg Donald
On 3/12/08, Aschwin Wesselius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm after is a framework that is simple, solid, compact and flexible enough to extend by myself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks#Comparison_of_features -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ --

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Andrés Robinet wrote: I want a framework I can plug a microphone in, and talk to it, and it does the job for me (really, I need it). But I guess we are far away from that. You need it? And what happens if you won't get it in a life time? If you need REAL RAD (a la Delphi), use VCL for

RE: [PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Andrés Robinet
-Original Message- From: Aschwin Wesselius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 4:14 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] Frameworks Hi all, Maybe this has past the list a couple of times (just like the 'storing images in a DB' question). What

RE: [PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Andrés Robinet
-Original Message- From: Aschwin Wesselius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:04 PM To: Andrés Robinet Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] Frameworks Andrés Robinet wrote: I want a framework I can plug a microphone in, and talk

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2008-03-12 Thread Aschwin Wesselius
Andrés Robinet wrote: Anyway... you will get one thousand opinions about Frameworks, and 90% of them may be correct. Choose the framework you like after playing around with some examples and having an overview of the reference manual (forgot to say, documentation is really important to get you

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-06 Thread Ed Lazor
I think you pegged it... the benefit is that you save time, the drawback is that you're limited in what you can do. I think you have to review each framework and chose one based on your personal preferences, the project at hand, etc. On Nov 2, 2006, at 7:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-02 Thread ray . hauge
I know this subject has been covered in the past, but my question is why use them? I'm hoping to not create a religious war... I see that frameworks would probably help you develop some things faster, but most of the time they don't do the things the way I would want them to work. If I did use

RE: [PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-02 Thread Edward Kay
I know this subject has been covered in the past, but my question is why use them? I'm hoping to not create a religious war... I see that frameworks would probably help you develop some things faster, but most of the time they don't do the things the way I would want them to work. If I did

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-02 Thread Thomas Munz
I personal prefer Frameworks. I tried some of them. But in my opinion, those are not made to create application fater, no. With Frameworks, you can maintaine your application better. You have a global place where everything can be changed on one file. Ofc, its also possible that this improves

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-02 Thread Jochem Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this subject has been covered in the past, but my question is why use them? it's kind of the same question as 'why use software libraries?' - which is kind of answered by 'do you want to write your own TCP/IP stack *everytime* you write a network enabled piece

Re: [PHP] Frameworks

2006-11-02 Thread Dave Goodchild
I am using Code Igniter on two projects at the moment and I am loving it. All the tedious, repetitive elements are reduced, security is increased and code organised in a clean fashion (you can of course mis-use frameworks but with effort they can promote and facilitate a cleaner, more modular

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-08 Thread Manuel Lemos
Hello, on 08/05/2006 11:47 PM Robert Cummings said the following: This is necessary to escape wildcards characters that should be taken literally in patterns. It is needed to implement the auto-complete feature using SQL conditions of type field LIKE 'typed-text%'. If typed-text contains % or

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-08 Thread Manuel Lemos
need to say before actually getting into what you want to talk about. Just take for example the post about recommend php framework, look how much you have to read before actually get any info relating directly to php frameworks. Is true that there are many things to say before about frameworks

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-06 Thread Martin Alterisio
the things you need to say before actually getting into what you want to talk about. Just take for example the post about recommend php framework, look how much you have to read before actually get any info relating directly to php frameworks. Is true that there are many things to say before about

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Tony Marston
Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 17:23 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote: Hello, on 08/03/2006 02:53 PM Robert Cummings said the following: The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first place was : Imagine

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Manuel Lemos
any framework to see that it is not suitable for your needs, when you can just browse the source code and documentation. It would be insane to try all PHP frameworks that exist to reach that conclusion. And there's the rub... your article was not about what YOU needed it was what YOU

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-05 Thread Robert Cummings
of something. I bow before you. Be seriuos. Nobody needs to actually use any framework to see that it is not suitable for your needs, when you can just browse the source code and documentation. It would be insane to try all PHP frameworks that exist to reach that conclusion. And there's

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Manuel Lemos
use any framework to see that it is not suitable for your needs, when you can just browse the source code and documentation. It would be insane to try all PHP frameworks that exist to reach that conclusion. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You're either pro-choice with a myriad of choices

Re: [PHP] Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

2006-08-04 Thread Robert Cummings
of something. I bow before you. Be seriuos. Nobody needs to actually use any framework to see that it is not suitable for your needs, when you can just browse the source code and documentation. It would be insane to try all PHP frameworks that exist to reach that conclusion. And there's

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