Hmm...Still no responses to my questions to Michael Pugliese about ethnic
nationalism, the neocons and related topics? No interest in real dialogue on
these matters? Why?
Who is a bigger threat to Americans and the world:
White ethnic nationalists like Kevin MacDonald? Or Jewish ethnic
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Neocons vs. Anti-Neocons
For Michael Pugliese:
Why are you more focused on attacking John Sharpe than Paul
Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Natan Sharansky,
Benjamin Netanyahu, Joesph
http://www.google.com/search?q=Kevin+MacDonald+Stormfront
Results 1 - 20 of about 10,400 English pages for Kevin MacDonald Stormfront
Neo-Nazis love him..
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Michael Pugliese
Michael,
I am interested in reading your posts here, but I do expect you to make an
effort to discuss and defend them in a reasonable and intellectually honest
way. You didn't respond to several questions I posed to you earlier. Why?
Here is a key point I would like to see you address: how
George Michael, Professor Kevin MacDonald's critique of Judaism,
Journal of Church and State
via
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_B._MacDonald#Criticisms_of_MacDonald.27s_work
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/JCS48-2006.pdf
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Michael Pugliese
Hey, for today's chic young goose-stepping barnyard hipster, what's not to love
:)
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Kevin+MacDonald+Stormfront
Results 1 - 20 of about 10,400 English pages for Kevin MacDonald Stormfront
Sean
Why are you requesting a comparison of the relative threat value of these two
individuals (both of whom I consider to be dangerous, in various ways).
McDonald is a white Christian nationalist who is also considered as someone
attempting to provide an academic justification for
On what grounds do you make the charge that I have aligned myself with the far
right? I have explicitly, and at great length, rejected the ideology and
program of the far right, especially the ethnic nationalist far right. My
politics are classically American liberal, in the Jeffersonian
This is a fallacious argument, unless you are willing to demonize and condemn
the Israeli government and Zionism as a whole for its warm and intimate ties
with the worst crazies in the Christian fundamentalist world.
How consistent are your standards on these matters?
We are not responsible
You have misframed the issue.
Elliott Abrams is part of a powerful political movement, driven primarily by
Jewish ethnic nationalism and passionate Israeli patriotism, which is stoking
hatred against Muslims, Arabs, Europeans, Russians, the Chinese, mainstream
Christians, traditional liberals,
[From one of the best brains on the net on one of the most strategic trends on
the planet:]
John F. Sowa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 10:57:55 -0400
From: John F. Sowa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [ontolog-forum] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] quick question re OKBc
Sean
So if I connect the dots in your equation below, it boils down to a
claim that this most dangerous movement (and I don't dispute its
dangerousness, although perhaps its mostness) is driven by Jewish
ethnic nationalism and passionate Israeli patriotism.
A) not true, not by a longshot. That's
Do you actually know anything about the intellectual history of
neoconservatism, or are you just making this stuff up as you go along? Which
neocon sources do you monitor regularly?
Have you read the last few decades of Commentary, which is the lead journal of
neoconservatism? I have.
Who Are the Key Neocons?
Following are some of the key neocons (who also happened to be some of the key
ringleaders of the Iraq War). Most or all of them are Jewish ethnic
nationalists, an assertion that can be quickly verified with Google (for
instance, try Googling [Richard Perle Israel] or
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, tigerbengalis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yet you feel the need to single out a Jewish
neo-con to compare to a protoNazi. Why? Are you saying current
American policy (which has hardly changed in decades, despite the
current ascenency of neocons) is a Jewish
Sean, Commentary has for decades been openly identified as a journal with a
focus on Jewish interests, from a conservative and now neo-con perspective.
Your calling the obsessed is quite offensive. It's like calling People mag
obsessed with celebrities. It's not an obsession if its commonly
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you actually know anything about the intellectual history of
neoconservatism, or are you just making this stuff up as you go along?
Which neocon sources do you monitor regularly?
Having been aware of
Yes, I've read all your sources, and many more. But why don't you go straight
to the horse's mouth? Why not read the neocons in their own words? Commentary
is the best place to start. Go to the library and browse through a few decades
of back issues. I assume you have some speed reading
Ah -- you are making little sense. Clearly this is a highly emotional topic
for you, and I honestly think that you are incapable of thinking about it
objectively and clearly.
Commentary is not just any old Jewish magazine, it's the fountainhead of
neoconservatism and a haven for Jewish
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:How obsessed are neocons with the Jews? You
be the judge. Here are some verbatim titles of Commentary articles:
For a journal sponsored by the American Jewish Committee, this is
what s/b expected. For a journal
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The anger against the neocons coming from the
American foreign policy establishment these days is electric and palpable.
Yes. Good old intra-ruling class divisions.
I say we go go back to good old Buchananite
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: Harry Truman and *UFOs*
via Google Blog Search: Majestic-12 OR MJ-12 UFO OR UFOs
The NWO, Majestic 12 and Grey Aliens
14 Jun 2007 by dad2059
My searching for the
Well, if you have no objections to Commentary, certainly you will have no
objections to white nationalist publications which rant on and on about their
ethnic enemies. The core theme of Commentary is that the Jews are locked in
an apocalyptic holy war against the rest of the human race. This
My perspective on UFOs: I've just read three major books on the subject, by
Richard Dolan, Timothy Good and Steven Greer. Dolan's book, which is based on
solid scholarship, is especially valuable. All three books include a plethora
of first-person reports from highly reliable sources (often in
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I've read all your sources, and many more. But why don't you go
straight to the horse's mouth? Why not read the neocons in their own
words? Commentary is the best place to start. Go to the library and
browse
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Most Americans, including most Jews, are
decidedly not ethnic nationalists, not to mention messianic or
militant ethnic nationalists. They are AMERICANS -- they rarely think
about their ethnicity, and they never get
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, tigerbengalis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Of course there are indeed a relative
HANDFUL of Jewish neocons (and non-neocons) who play a role in
American imperial policy, and who are likely sympathetic to Israel by
virtue of their own ethnicities. So friggin
One advantage white ethnic nationalists enjoy over Jewish ethnic nationalists
-- they are focused on the American interest, not on the interests of a foreign
government. The neocons simply can't stop talking about Israel and the enemies
of Israel. If push came to shove over all this, the
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My perspective on UFOs: I've just read three major books on the
subject, by Richard Dolan, Timothy Good and Steven Greer.
This one?
UFOs and the National Security State: Chronology of a Coverup,
1941-1973 by
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Well, if you have no objections to Commentary,
certainly you will have no objections to white nationalist
publications which rant on and on about their ethnic enemies...
Get a grip, Sean. If you had any knowledge
Are you actually trying to smear UFO researchers in general by associating them
with Nazis? Do you have any evidence that Richard Dolan, Timothy Good and
Steven Greer, the three authors I mentioned, are Nazis or harbor Nazi
sympathies? Do you have any substantive remarks to make about Dolan's
A suggestion: if you and tigerbengalis don't want to appear to be neocon fellow
travelers, then stop trying to downplay the offenses of Commentary and the
neocons, and start dealing in an honest way with the influence of Jewish ethnic
militants on the Bush 43 administration and the Iraq War,
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:My politics are classically American liberal, in
the Jeffersonian sense, in the sense of the geniuses who founded the
American Republic...
Heh, should I channel Ward Churchill on the genocide of the Native
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:By the way, the neocons are increasingly getting
into bed with white nationalists -- see, for instance, the developing
ties of David Horowitz and his associates with David Gaubatz. Much
neocon rhetoric and hate speech
Found searching for cites of Ernst Zundel in the archives.
Palestinians on the Left and pro-Palestinian leftists vs. Israel
Shamir. Yet, another neo-fascist I find cited here on this list.
http://www.nigelparry.com/issues/shamir/
Search for that in quotes in the archives. 131 hits.
Have you ever read a physical paper copy of that rag, Sean?
Ads in the back for neo-nazi orgs. and others on the far right. Ads
for favorable documentaries on the Third Reich and the Waffen SS.
Timothy McVeigh read this rag, even had a
I say we go go back to good old , classical liberal, foreign
policy.
http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS
by Dr. Zoltan Grossman
The following is a partial list of U.S. military interventions from
1890 to 2007.
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/11222.html
classical liberal equals Hayekian free market capitalist absolutist.
Sean's, classical liberals and neo-cons agree about the virtues of
unrestrained capitalist greed.
--
Michael Pugliese
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, Sean McBride
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you actually trying to smear UFO researchers in general by
associating them with Nazis? Do you have any evidence that Richard
Dolan, Timothy Good and Steven Greer, the three authors I mentioned,
are Nazis or
No, I've never seen a physical copy of the American Free Press. If there is a
particular article from it which you would like to discuss, be my guest.
michael098762001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Search for that in quotes in the archives. 131 hits.
Have you
Ok -- we have a major point of agreement. Now: will we see David Horowitz and
his associates marginalized by the political mainstream, or will they continue
to get a free ride? Horowitz's views are in close alignment with many neocons.
Horowitz comes close to being a quintessential neocon. He
Brilliant and well-educated minds from all across the political spectrum, and
especially from the defense and intel agencies of major nations all around the
world, have had an intense interest in UFOs for five or six decades now. Your
attempts to link UFO research to Nazis are, quite frankly,
Actually, I am more a progressive than a traditional libertarian, and agree
somewhat with liberal neocons on the need for some kinds of government
intervention to prevent abuses of the public interest by unscrupulous and
wealthy private interests. Basically I am against concentrating too much
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic
militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics...
So negligible that the GOP for decades has had Ethnic Outreach
Committees full of the most Fascist, anti-Communist sectors aligned
with WACL. Drawn upon in the
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic
militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics...
If you lived in a neighborhood w/ immigrants from Central
America, like I have, hard working and loyal to the mainstream ,
American, values of family and
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:White ethnic
militants are a negligible factor in contemporary American politics...
http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_jmr_fmasid=1Itemid=91
Mapping the New Nativism is a comprehensive study of the location of
state and local
I'm curious: with which ethnic group do you most strongly identify? Which
ethnic tradition has most influenced you?
And do you support illegal immigration? Legal immigration is a fine American
tradition. Illegal immigration on the scale we are seeing it is a disaster.
Any administration
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Of course his
chances of winning the nomination or the presidency are non-existent.
Not according to his fan club.
All the Ron Paul supporters on the WWW I've seen have this belief
he will win. Just like the Kucinich supporters in '04 and
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm curious: with which ethnic group do you most strongly identify? Which
ethnic tradition has most influenced you?
I'm Italian-American. But, I don't identify that way. My
Italian-American relatives in Pittsburgh were all racists who
On 6/29/07, Sean McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:These days I am
impressed by Glenn Greenwald...
Good on the Patriot Act, warrentless wiretapping and civil
liberties issues in general. Not to be trusted though on matters,
military. Unlike you, I bother to google and read for opposing pov's
and
Well, I am not Italian, but I am a bit of an Italian chauvinist. I've spent
some time in Italy, and greatly admire the genius of Italian culture in almost
all its forms (maybe there are a few problems with the Corleone/Soprano
faction). And what I especially love about the Italians I've met
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=North_American_Union
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