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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
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> From: "Robert M. Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent
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From: "Robert M. Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
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> JaMi,
> I have n
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To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "JaMi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
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> Robert,
>
> There are a couple of different "VeryBe
Ian Wilson wrote:
> On 09:20 AM 2/08/2002 -0400, vincent mail said:
>
>
>> Exactly my point. Nothing can beat a PCB designer with 10 years
>> experience. Computers are simply not smart and not adaptive enough.
>> Most board tools are programmed by people that have never made a
>> board in th
most of the maps here show 'here be monsters' if you leave the continent
:-) :-) ( bg smile )
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Vincent,
Please change your system clock. Today is Thursday in the land of -4:00
Thank you very much,
Frank
At 09:20 AM 8/2/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Exactly my point. Nothing can beat a PCB designer with 10 years
>experience. Computers are simply not smart and not adaptive enough. Most
>bo
o run on
Linux.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
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From: "Ian Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:27 AM
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On 09:20 AM 2/08/2002 -0400, vincent mail said:
>Exactly my point. Nothing can beat a PCB designer with 10 years
>experience. Computers are simply not smart and not adaptive enough. Most
>board tools are programmed by people that have never made a board in their
>life. And layout people would
Exactly my point. Nothing can beat a PCB designer with 10 years
experience. Computers are simply not smart and not adaptive enough. Most
board tools are programmed by people that have never made a board in
their life. And layout people wouldn't be caught dead writing programs.
. but then tes
> -Original Message-
> From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 01 August 2002 21:42
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer! !!!
> >design data to dozens of unknown PCB vendors? Or ha
rom: "Robert M. Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
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> Darryl,
> I guess you have not seen the VeriBest (I mean Mentor
Vincent,
My two bit(che)s in reply: See inserts
Igor
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From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 6:42 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
offer! !!!
Darryl Newberry wrote:
>
orum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
!!!
> Ah, but does Cadence offer semi-functional, non-extensible, and
pathetically
> slw 3D viewing? Or automated online submission of
capabilities of this level package.
Bob Wolfe
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From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:49:14 -0400, Darryl Newberry wrote:
>BTW, anybody going to join Altium's DXP list? I bet the real reason they are
>creating their own list is so THEY can filter and control the distribution.
>I prefer to bitch here in a public forum where the world can read about it.
I di
, 2002 2:09 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer! !!!
>
>
> The problem is that if Altium moderates the list, they can remove anything
> they don't like. I agree with Darryl, open discussion and
> criticism
nd no one will mind.
JaMi
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From: "Abd ulRahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
I got the info from our distributor on discussion of a quote.
It might be I somewhat misunderstood the ATS from the beginning.
I had the impression of a system change, the microsoft way.
Now it appears to be an addition. You get it together with an upgrade
and don't have to renew it.
I admittedly
nately for
free, OR pay $8550, and keep on using it... LOL!!! HA HA HA HA
> -Original Message-
> From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:07 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen th
vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 16:42
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer! !!!
>
>
>
>
> Darryl Newberry wrote:
>
> >Ah, but does Cadence offer sem
At 02:49 PM 7/31/2002 -0400, Darryl Newberry wrote:
>BTW, anybody going to join Altium's DXP list?
I have.
> I bet the real reason they are
>creating their own list is so THEY can filter and control the distribution.
I highly doubt it. Gad, what a paranoid view of the world! The yahoogroups
D
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From: "Rene Tschaggelar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!
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> I joined. Not much on at the moment. The
01/08/2002 21:41:41, "vincent mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
"autorouters suck . including specctra. they can't even route a ingle
sided board decently . they are great for all digital boards. analog
noise sensitive precision electronics . no way jose !"
True, but Specctra keeps its sticky han
yet had the guts to try itmaybe I'll just wait until it ships...
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 15:39
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen th
I joined. Not much on at the moment. There are very few having DXP
at the moment. I wouldn't even have time at the moment.
The yahoogroup is public too. Works like this one but could be
quieter. We'll see. The creators are supposed to be there too.
Since I don't have Win2k on my usual machines, I'
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
offer! !!!
Ah, but does Cadence offer semi-functional, non-extensible, and pathetically
slw 3D viewing? Or automated online submission of your precious design
data to dozens of unknown PCB vendors? Or half-assed SP
blic forum where the world can read about it.
> -Original Message-
> From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:52
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer
>
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Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
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I'm happy to forward the mail to anybody that wants it.
Steve.
I feel a bit like a traitor. But only a little bit.
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMAI
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> To: "Protel forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:34 PM
> Subject: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer
>
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > very off topic for a Protel forum, so
34 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer
> Hello all,
>
> very off topic for a Protel forum, so sue me!
>
> I just had an email, telling me that I can have Cadence PCB Design Studio,
> with Allegro and Specctra (don't know Specctra spec
ephen Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer
> Hello all,
>
> very off topic for a Protel forum, so sue me!
>
> I ju
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 July 2002 17:34
> To: Protel forum
> Subject: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> very off topic for a Protel forum, so
Hello all,
very off topic for a Protel forum, so sue me!
I just had an email, telling me that I can have Cadence PCB Design Studio,
with Allegro and Specctra (don't know Specctra spec, though) for an
astonishing price. It's reduced from 23,000 GBP to 8,995 GBP!!!
Interesting timing!
Steve.
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