[q] google groups
--- Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, it would be nice if the following was provided to us in email: 1. The exact web address to read the new list. 2. The exact email commands to sub and unsub 3. I've still no idea how one can sub w/o creating some sort of google/gmail account. 4. Keep in mind a lot of us luddites preferred the Old Way. Fellow Mac lovers, As you should already be aware, we are combining Quadlist, the Compact Macs list, and the Vintage Macs list into a single Vintage Macs list hosted by Google Groups. The new list functions a lot like the email lists we're use to, but with some improvements: 1. You can manage your subscription. Change mode. Unsubscribe. Set to No Mail while you go on vacation. Add another email address. Etc. 2. You can read the list archive online. You can also search it using Google's search engine. And subscribers can also post replies online. 3. No more [EMAIL PROTECTED] WARNING messages. 4. No more space wasted with all the list folderoll you see here. And no ads in list emails. (The only drawback for us, since some of the lists do generate a bit of income.) I hope to see all of you there. We will be shutting down the existing 680x0 lists at the end of the week. Dan the listmom __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] REDUCED after intervention: Centris 650
Other than the externals, you have a $10 computer. The externals themselves are not likely to fetch more than $25, as a scsi cd burner is going to be slow and archaic. So where are you getting this $200 figure and why are you posting ads on quadlist? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Joey DiMauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [q] REDUCED after intervention: Centris 650 Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:12:38 -0500 MACINTOSH GRAPHICS WORKSTATION Asking $200 for everything. Will consider reasonable offers. Thanx for taking the time to review the specs! [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] GV 56K Modem
vicki Duggan wrote: I have just sold one of these on ebay and it works fine with the x2 software that was included with the os that i was using. also if you need the proper software for it i have a disk that came with the modem (i found it after i sent the modem to the buyer and he doe's not want it) i can image it for you and send it in the morning if you like. Vicki in UK Thanks Vicki, I did find a modem script that makes the modem work but I only get 33.3k speed. If you have the proper software, I'd love a copy. Thanks Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
[q] software for a GV 56k Modem
Hello all, Anyone know where I can get software for a Global Village 56k modem (that what it says on the bottom of the modem, no v92 or x2, just 56k)? I tried the GV link from Gamba's site and all I could find were updaters for their modems. Also, does anyone have their Quad set up as a fax machine? Just looking for a few tips. Thanks in advance, Mark -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Quad inventory of uses
Tina Holm wrote: At 0:20 + 06/10/09, Mark Adrian wrote: Anyone know where to get video drivers for old Radius Thunder display cards? I may have a line on one. Found on an older backup cd, not sure what it is, but try: ftp://ftp.nehaia.dk/pub/misc/RadiusWare3.3.cpt /Tina -- _ *****The Evil RootMum***** - where life is beautiful all the time... Thanks Tina! Alas the card I was going to bid on (Thunder GX VI) sold for 100.00 US. Way too expensive for me. Mark -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] Quad inventory of uses
John Niven wrote: Can we do a roll call of how quads are being used in different ways? I have two and they are presently acting as bookends for some zip drives. I have a 605 with fpu, but despite being cute it is packed away unused at the moment. I tried netBSD on it for a while - but I can't see the point :-) I mean it's free, but what do you DO with it? I think I'll be giving it to my son to play Bolo on when he's had enough of the IIci :-) I am the proud owner of a Quad 800 that I bought on ebay for 8 bux. Installed two 32 meg dimms and two 16 meg dimms. Installed OS 8.1, extra 2 GB Quantum hard drive and hooked the machine up to my DSL. It's mostly a gaming machine since I have a few old school games I wanted to play but I am finding that with all the mods I did, I am using it more and more. Man, I forgot how good Write Now is for word processing. It's unlikely that my iMac FP will be replaced by the Q800 but it is starting to collect some dust. Anyone know where to get video drivers for old Radius Thunder display cards? I may have a line on one. Thanks, Mark Adrian Apple Certified Tech wannabe -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: [q] multiple users setup for 8.1 or7.5?
How crackable is At Ease if you just managed to boot from an external device, bypassing the startup disk using keyboard combinations? I am looking for a way to password protect from prying eyes... Also, since we are on the topic, what's the most secure web browser for a quadra? -- In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ian Nixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [q] multiple users setup for 8.1 or7.5? Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 08:11:12 -0400 I think it is available as a free download from the Apple archive site. I think! I think it's free updates only. If it is free to download the full version, someone post a link! Ian -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com End of Quadlist Digest #1553 ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q] CPU of a 650
--- Mark Koan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for Centris 650, Quadra 650, and Quadra 700 motherboards. They are often (or were a year ago when I was looking) available for under $10 and carry a CPU with the FPU.Just make sure that the seller is selling it with the CPU still installed. Sometimes a seller sells the board sans CPU. So you are saying that the CPU of a 650 can just be popped out, and placed let's say in a 575? I thought these chips were soldered on. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]quad games
Much thanx to everyone who responded. Snood is really quite subtle. On the Exachess, what a remarkable program for free! But how do you Castle? ExaChess Lite - Freeware http://www.exachess.com/files/exachess-lite-21.sit (not sure if this runs on 68k) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
[q]best chess program for a quadra?
setting up a mac for a chess player;hoping to find freeware but interested in opions on vintage chess progams for these machines. Also, what are the most common classic games that run well on Quads? Like your top 5 favorites. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
quick monitor question
Somewhat once removed, but: my friend wants to network a pc, a linux box and a mac, but he wants to only use one monitor for the three machines. So if i give him a mac, he'll need some sort of adapter to use with the monitor switcher? Does anyone know even what sort of monitor switcher could do this? But the main question is should i give him a ci or LC 475? I'd rather him have the ci for its coproccesor, but i suspect there would be monitor issues worse with the ci to use with a generic adapter? is this true? __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC575 display craziness
In my experience, the 500's seem to be very sensitive to power line interference, moreso than any other mac's I ahve dealt with. If the room is close to even the telephone lines, the 575 acts wavy and jumpy. If you move it back to the basement and the problem goes away, then it is some sort of outside eletrical problem. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Fwd: AppleWorks 5 questions
AppleWorks scrolls slower in Page View, and when scrolling down quickly in a document, it is kind of distracting to see that grey skip at the bottom of every page. Word is quicker cux it does not do this---by default, page view is off. Same with Tex-Edit and BB Edit. I don't really wanna use Microsoft, but why can't Apple let me choose how to open documents? And why put a command on the menu that is always unavailable? Makes no sense. Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:49:04 -0700 Subject: Fwd: AppleWorks 5 questions From: Jamie Pruden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Mark, You don't. Word processing documents are *always* in page view. You could set the margins on the page (Format Document) to 0 inches. You should note that this will cause havoc when you print as your printer will cut off anything that is outside its built-in margins (normally about 1/2 inch on all sides.) I'm curious though... why wouldn't you want to see how your document will print? smiles, Jamie On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Mark Koan wrote: How do I make the Page View command go away? A WP comes up in Page View, the command is dimmed in the menu, and there is no Preference for it. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com End of Quadlist Digest #1296 __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
AppleWorks 5 questions
How do I make the Page View command go away? A WP comes up in Page View, the command is dimmed in the menu, and there is no Preference for it. Also, would any PPC motherboards work efficiently in a 575 form factor? __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
580/575/630 mb questions
I have a motherboard from a LC 580, which I understand is similar to a 630. I don't really like the screen of the 580, so I am looking to put the mb elsewhere. Can it upgrade a color classic or any of the compact macs? Can it by any chance be modified to run in a ci? Now, I have a 575, which I do like the screen. What is the highest, even unsupported, PPC motherboard replacement? __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
HTML - SMLHTMLzzzzzz
One of you is saying its bad to use IE specific HTML, the other is saying you should code so that it at least works in IE. Is it just me or that two different subjects? : ) And as an aside where did all the attitude come from sooo fast. Time to have a beer and relax IMO. Also as further aside, I also read this list on a PC, are there many others? I'd do it on a Mac except I don't have a mac modem for my quadra (hurrah back on topic) or my 9500 (booo hisss off topic again) : ) -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
after dark/dark side
How do you set up Dark Side to run the AD modules? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Essentials
What would you guys reckon is the essentials (software hardware wise) to get a stock Quadra 800 up and running with email/net access and perhaps as a firewall/webserver, if indeed the later is possible? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
This is my end... for now...
I'm afraid that the recent weeks on LEM have been fairly harrowing for me personally. I have more or less discovered that my heart is no longer in it and my mindset is no longer correct. Therefore I feel I have no option, in order to relieve me from what has become a wretched task of filtering out and marking 'read' all the LEM List mail i get without so much as reading it. I am resigning from my post as the List Nanny of Vintage Macs, and leaving all the lists except Mac-UK. I have made some great friends through the years on LEM, but also seem to have made a few most unsavory enemies. For everyone's information this stand-down does not indicate anything about my intents or loyalties, I'm simply depressed with the way things have got on the lists and don't want the stress or hassle. I hope to god the relevant folks around here come to to their senses (however needs to) and sort out the mess once and for all. I might return one day, when i don't have an answer to a question, but in the mean time I'm gone. I'll still be around on the scene, and indeed will continue to work on a new site for 68k Mac ppl. As they say, if you need me, you know where I am. I thank those that have stood with me for the journey for their friendship and trust and I hope I can keep in touch with most of you. As for those who caused trouble or made my and other people's life hard, I hope your happy. Remember the old quote Steve Jobs took from Dylan at the 1984 shareholders meeting, it's become a bit of a guide to my life: Come writers and critics Who prophesize with your pen And keep your eyes wide The chance won't come again And don't speak too soon For the wheel's still in spin And there's no tellin' who That it's namin'. For the loser now Will be later to win For the times they are a-changin' Goodbye. Stay well, and god-speed. Special-Shutdown. Goodbye. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840 av
On Saturday, Mar 1, 2003, at 10:01 Europe/London, Powermac wrote: I just added 4x256k vram to my 840av and it works fine. Must be 80ns vram to work, alot of the older quadra's can use 100ns ram but not the 840. I think what your seeing is a marginal vram stick and video corruption i the area where data is held on that stick. Try rearanging the sticks in the 4 slots and see if the image corruption changes to another area. I have had this problem with VRAM in PCI PowerMAcs. I had a 7500 and a 7300 and the VRAM worked in the 7500 and not the 7300 (both in OS X 10.1.5). It seems to be a weirdosity that some Apple machines have. It may be that there is a bad VRAM chip in there but it only manifests itself on an 840av due to the speeds and stresses the 840av puts thru the video system. 4x512k wont work in the 840. Some machines like the Q950 will take the 512k vram but only use 256k of each stick. 512k SIMMs are usually recognised as 256k on an 840av. I think there are 1 or two 512ks that don't work properly. do you see a -80 on the chips? or -8 or a number 80 or 8. *Generally Speaking* 512k VRAM SIMMs have 4 large chips on, and 256ks only have 2 on one side. This is not an absolute but it's what I generally find in my large crop of variously upgraded LCs. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840 av
On Saturday, Mar 1, 2003, at 19:51 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: Then something is wrong with them *in that machine*. Like Mark said, that happens on occasion. The 840AV is probably the pickiest Mac ever made when it comes to RAM and VRAM speeds, and a chip that's only marginally out of spec might work fine in every other 68K but fail in the 840AV. I have also had trouble with VRAM in Power Macs seating badly, as well as in odd LCs. Maybe, as the speckles say in one place while u move the RAM, you have a flakey VRAM socket or dirty contacts in one of the socket beds. What you're describing is *exactly* the problem that happens when VRAM is too slow for a system; a 575 will demonstrate *identical* symptoms with 80 ns VRAM (at least, most of the time) when the bus is clocked past about 40 MHz. Stepping up to 70 ns VRAM solves the problem. Some 80 ns VRAM modules work just fine, however, which proves that VRAM spec'd at a single speed clearly isn't 100% consistent in its performance. Some 80 ns VRAM is, to put it bluntly, faster than other 80 ns VRAM. But the VRAM is 70ns, it says so in the chips. I don't think that is the problem here. It's either it doesn't like 512k VRAM or the VRAM is not seating well. VRAM in Macs is so fickle, I have solved corruption problem in a 7500 by taking the VRAM out, juggling it and putting it back in a different order. It's a crazy science! It sounds like you just need to find some different VRAM modules and put those to use somewhere that isn't so timing-sensitive. Like LCs :). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.68kmac.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
quick question on quads and compacts
Is it possible whatsoever to use a compact monitor such as a Classic I II se/30 as the video source for a desktop quadra? Is it possible to just see the quadra through the se/30 in netowrk mode? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Performa 475 startup
On Friday, Feb 7, 2003, at 00:32 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: At 18:26 -0600 on 06/02/03, Dan Palka wrote: What exactly DOES the battery do anyway besides keep the clock running? How does it have the final say in whether or not your computer boots?? In the case of the 475s, you'll find a full explanation in the FAQ. Erm, wow, what an answer ;). The PRAM holds all the settings for the computer that it needs to boot, such as what SCSI device it is to boot from by default and what screen size to use. The PRAM in the LC475 is a fickle beast. It requires a good battery to even show a video signal at startup. Try this little dodge (at your own risk of course): Turn on the LC475 Wait for the hard disk to spin up as normal Once the hard disk is FULLY spun up and initialised turn the machine off and on in rapid succession. If it boots it is definitely the PRAM. If not, pull out the battery and try the above again If that all fails unplug all power and the battery and leave it to stand for a while. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 800
On Sunday, Feb 2, 2003, at 11:34 Europe/London, E McCann wrote: Putting it *in* is a bit more of a pain, since you have to line everything up right or it doesn't fit properly at all. I never get *that* right on the first try. (Yes, I seem to have these memorized, thanks to a finicky Q840AV.) I hear ya there, my 840av is a sod to service. I'm glad I just RAMmed (scuse the pun :D ) 4x32MB of RAM in there and left it at that. Yet it's easier to deal with than a 7100's case. Yes it is as it's plastic and doesn't take pleasure in mowing off your knuckles when you are servicing. Apart from installing and removing the hard disks, that is a total 'claustrophobia for the hands' experience in the 840av, and especially annoying if you use UWSCSI cabling. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Clean Install from CD?
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 12:45PM, the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, actually the trash is devoid of colour, no greyscale at all and the Apple is jet black. Ah, an icon problem then. Try rebuilding the desktop. No necessarily, he could be running the computer in 16 or 256 Greyscale video mode. This obviously is unable to display colour and also makes the Apple on the menu bar black. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson http://fpm.gotdns.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quad collectability
Very unlikely, as they were produced in great numbers, unlike every other Mac that has began fetching premium prices. -- the pickle So are there actually production numbers available for the various Mac models? One can roughly estimate, sure, but is there any source for exact numbers produced? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LC 630 / CD Rom replacement.
On Monday, Jan 27, 2003, at 13:09 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: What CD Roms can I use in the 630? Any particular specs apart from scsi? Not really :) You are better off, if you want a CD-ROM only, replacing it with another Apple badged unit. This will ensure maximum compatibility and also that you can boot from the CD drive. It also better ensures the drive will fit the 630 (see below). Stripped Apple SCSI units are pretty easy to find on LEM Swap and places like that. Will the 630 recognise a CD RW? Yep, quite nicely. Yes, using Toast 4.1.2 or earlier. It's not really worth going much faster than 4x CD-R though as the 68k probably can't manage a CD-R much faster. My 7300/200 struggled to write to a FireWire CD-RW at more than 12x, but that might well have been the FW card that sucked :). Any precautions? They can be a bit tricky to get out, but they're not too bad. You have to be *very* careful where the rear connectors are on the CD drive for the 630. The CD drive attaches to the computer via a series of edge connectors. These plug into the power, SCSI and Audio-out ports of the CD-ROM drive. If they are more than a few mm either side of where they should be it will not fit the machine without you modify the carrier inside the machine. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Last 68K versions of software?
On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 12:03PM, the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Illustrator? I wanna say 5.x. I think it was actually 7.x. I recall having a copy of 7.0.1 on my 7500 a few years back that kept cussing at me becuase it was optimised for 68k not PPC. Open Transport? (I had to reinstall to the 8.1 system off my 8.0 CD, and The one that shipped with 8.1. 1.3 1.3.1 Installer on the 8.1 update CD won't run, it requires a PPC. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson http://fpm.gotdns.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
My advice is that if you have an iMac or something for burning or even a 604e PowerMac that you capture raw files on the 840av and then copy them over ethernet to the better machine and compress them on there. The time is probably comparable to what it takes to compress MPEG on an 840av, and you can watch the video for proofing straight after you have compressed it. It is also easier to find the speed and disk space required on newer machines for multiple, copies of one file. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
On Sunday, Jan 19, 2003, at 10:17 Europe/London, victoria.duggan wrote: Hi All I did was plug in the video lead from the camcorder and start apple video player and the mac does the rest. It gives me two control panels, video and video selection with s-video /stero/ video. I just choose the one I have my device plugged into. My only question was is there a faster one because my 840AV is rendered useless whilst doing video. I'm afraid that fact it is only a 68040/40MHz means, despite the ATT 66.7MHz DSP chip, that it needs all it's power to digitize video. The vast majority of the CPU time consumed is actually I/O from the RAM to the disk that it is recording to. Either way you will still not be able to use it if you use Adobe Premiere 2, 3, or 4, Avid Videoshop or anything else. It's the actual process of digitizing and saving to disk that is taking up all the CPU cycles, not Apple's software, which use very few CPU cycles on an 840av when it is just displaying video from one of the ports. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 00:28 Europe/London, zhmmy harper wrote: Hmm, I didn't know I was sinning because I'm new to this site...however, I've seen a lot of used software for sale here so far. Everyone seems to do it but I guess it's baad to talk about it. But I won't suggest Limewire anymore. We only sell genuine originals of software. We don't sell burned copies or duplicate floppies of stuff. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 03:59 Europe/London, zhmmy harper wrote: Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software producer. Which is more honorable or ethical? Probably doesn't matter anyway, but I do understand that it would be better to not mention Limewire. Whoops, did it again. No, the license belongs to the person who buys the software, and is know as the End User License Agreement, or EULA. This, in most if not all cases, can be legally transfered from one user to another fro a monetary sum at least one. As an example is is legal for an end user to transfer EULA license of Windows XP (just plucked that one out of the blue because it is one of the few EULAs I've read - I'm not trolling) to another user once. Therefore it is not illegal or frowned upon to sell genuine licensed copies of software to others for a fee equivalent to the software's intrinsic value. Duplicating and selling, or giving away, by physical, digital or paper means however violates the owners EULA, and is illegal. Limewire is a pit of filth that does nothing but spread the evil taint of piracy in music and software. It is the fault of networks like that that has prompted the ridiculous means people go to to protect their licenses. People make great news fodder of Microsoft's Product Activation, or the new copy protected CDs that stop them being ripped (as someone who has a massive library of completely legal MP3s from my vast CD collection I personally find that particular one very hard to swallow) but in reality it is the fault of the software pirate that these have come about. I'm no saint, I've done it before but now I am a working man I refuse to scab any longer. I had no option before, I do now. I will pay my way. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
On Saturday, Jan 18, 2003, at 15:37 Europe/London, Robert Gray wrote: Same all same, except people who sell their software are accepting payment for the license that rightfully belongs to the software producer. Which is more honorable or ethical? As I understand it, only the owner of the copywrite has the right to sell a license; however, if it isn't forbidden in the license, the holder of the license may transfer their right to a new holder (and subsequently give up their right to future use of that software license). Did I not just say that ;) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
DigitalFilm card problems/solutions
Sorry - had to do a widespread trawl across the remaining NuBus lists to get an answer as the 1st-Powermacs list ppl seem stumped. I have a SuperMac DigitalFilm kit. It has a 15-pin monitor output on the breakout box but it doesn't seem to output any video my monitor (a very useful 17 .25dp PC monitor that handles practically any res. between 320x200 an 2040x1536) can understand. It seems to thing the signal has a horizontal scan of 15Khz, which is TV frequency. Does anyone know a way of resetting it or resetting the PRAM to make it display at a standard Res? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 840 AV???
Nancy, did I read correctly? there is *NO* ROM??? if that is true IT WILL NEVER start up, you gotta get a hold of a Q840AV ROM... there is no other way on earth for the quadra to startup properly... Perhars there are some laying around on ebay? Wrong! To my knowledge the 840av never carried anything in the ROM slot. Mine doesn't even has the carrier soldered on the board as it's a later mark 840av (tray loading CD, manual inject floppy) from Cork. Wre have had this discussion before a while back. It's definitely not a lack of ROM AFAIK, if I'm wrong feel free to slap me down. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson http://fpm.gotdns.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 840AV????
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 08:45AM, James S Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Itchy send finger syndrome strikes again. Since you're not getting a start up chime, but were when you found this machine, I'd say your problems are in one (or more) of five areas: RAM, VRAM, NuBus cards, the monitor you have attached to your 840, or the logic board settings. I had a semi-stroke of sorta genius while i was thinking about my newly acquired mountaion of LCs I tested last night. I fired up an LCII and got a chime and a grey screen but no more. I discovered it had no VRAM. The LCII is fairly primative comapred to the 840av so the 840av may test for good VRAM before the chime and stop if it detects a fault. Pull ANY VRAM off the board that is in the slots. If it still fails to start I'd SUSPECT a VRAM failure in the soldered bank :(. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson http://fpm.gotdns.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 840AV????
On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 00:34 Europe/London, SimPanda wrote: Hi, it's me again - the one with the Quadra 840AV that has the gray screen with nothing but the cursor up in the left upper corner. My 840av has been to hell and back a few times,. It's had more hard disks than a NAS unit, purely because I got bored and changed them ever few weeks :). I found also that it would lock up solid on the first screen (gray screen with mouse locked in top corner) if I either attached a SCSI drive it didn't like, or attached a SCSI cable backwards, or something similar. Unplug the SCSI ribbon cable (large ribbon at the rear of the Logic Board) completely, take it down to 32MB RAM, and turn it on and see what happens. If mine, Scott's ans Sque's theory is correct it should boot to a grey screen with a floppy in the middle with a flashing '?'. This doesn't look like much but it is progress, TRUST ME :). At that point putting in a System 7.5.3 Disk Tools disk should boot it. If this works as described then you should plug the SCSI ribbon back in at the logic board and unplug the hard disk (which is a pig to do in that tight space) and try starting it again. If THAT doesn't work reattach the hard disk and detach the CD-ROM drive. If that fails it may be a bad cable. If a new cable fails I fear it may be the onboard SCSI. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Auto Inject Floppy Drives
On Wednesday, January 08, 2003, at 10:04AM, R.A. Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean mine has the auto inject feature? John yes As a precaution I alwayas keep a close eye on active (as in used regularely) 68k machines with A-I floppy drives as they tend to die at the worst possible moment. -- Mark Benson Vintage Macs List Nanny http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson http://fpm.gotdns.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: X-over pinouts
On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 04:25 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: Evidently you are not technically or electronically inclined. EXplination: Nothing moves in a wire with out power, regardless of how much or how little. Hence, the necessity of the + and the - requirements of the pin outs. Quality equipment will have voltage protection circuits, but the majority of the stuff on the market now is not Quality. Even if the voltage, due to data transmission is only 1 volt, if it is a + (positive) 1 volt and you put it to a terminal that is expecting a - (negative) 1 volt, it will smoke, maybe just a little or maybe a lot. If it doesn't smoke it could just render a few of the component in the circuit inoperative by shorting out. Like no work anymore. I'm a self-taught networker. I have wired a few cables up wrong (in the beginning at least) and never managed to blow any of my kit up. I would have thought equipment would have been built with idiot tolerance for reversed voltages, I know a lot of other stuff is. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: X-over pinouts
On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 08:51 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: I'm a self-taught networker. I have wired a few cables up wrong (in the beginning at least) and never managed to blow any of my kit up. I would have thought equipment would have been built with idiot tolerance for reversed voltages, I know a lot of other stuff is. Yes, any conscientious manufacturer will. When do you know. Something to do with all my ethernet equipment (including that at work) being made by D-Link? No rubbish here! :) -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: CAT 5 Cable?
On Monday, Jan 6, 2003, at 01:19 Europe/London, Frederick Silliman wrote: No, I wouldn't want to overtax my intelligent ass. In other words you don't know. The honest to god good reason being the only thing you can damage by wiring up a Cat5 ethernet cable wrong is to your self esteem when you realise you need to cut the end off and crimp on another connector. The voltages used are not great on ethernet, and it has fail-safes to stop bad wiring blowing it up anyway. There that saved your ass ;). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Decent price for a boxed 660av
On Wednesday, Jan 1, 2003, at 21:25 Europe/London, edjones wrote: I recently paid UK£25 for a 660av from an ebay auction (it was advertised as a PPC 6100). They are quite rare on the used market in UK, although as a guide 840av's are going for around UK£30 on ebay these days... Cheaper comestically challenged 660's are more common without the CD ROM faceplate for around UK£15. Well I offered £40, it's going to a computer re-cycling charity in London so I don't mind, afterall it is boxed and complete. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Decent price for a boxed 660av
On Wednesday, Jan 1, 2003, at 01:54 Europe/London, Mark Benson wrote: What does anyone think a boxed 660av is worth? I can't find any 660s on eBay UK or USA as completed items. I need a bit of guidance. It's an inside UK item so it's gonna be a few GBP but I wanna know the US price as well so I can take a decent aggregate guess. Before anyone else asks I am *buying* the 660av, not selling it! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video
On Thursday, Jan 2, 2003, at 23:37 Europe/London, Robert Gray wrote: At 22:06:19 -0600 on 01/02/03, Michael Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a SPRO (Spigot Pro AV) that works fine from 7.1 through 8.1. It requires an extension to make it work well with QuickTime. Would it be possible to tell us specifically what the extension is? I have all three known versions of the Spigot PAV (It's Power AV not Pro AV - I have one in my 840av that was new boxed :P ) extension. The software is pretty minimal there is a SpigotPAV extension (about 125k) and a player (which you don't need). What you do need if you seriously want to record big video (like full screen PAL/NTSC at 30fps) is a very fast hard disk and controller card. I have Jackhammer with a 9GB U160 (i know, i know, but it was all I could get my paws on and there it will stay until I get a U3W card for Mac OS X) with and it's not fast enough to record 640x480 (PAL) but it will amply cope with 320x240 (1/2 PAL) straight from my VCR. I thought for the longest time it was a dud card until I figured out you must have a monitor attached to the on-board video connector - DUHH!!! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video
On Friday, Jan 3, 2003, at 01:48 Europe/London, Rob wrote: Mine is a SpigotPro AV, I'm looking at the original box right now... The SpigotPower AV's were the later ones sold for the PowerMacs. The only difference between the two, AFAIK, is the little ribbon cable required on the PMacs. Interesting. Does the Pro AV have the PDS connector behind the NuBus slot, specifically designed for the AV Quadras? My setup will record 640x480 NTSC at 30fps, but I just have problems always getting output from Spigot all the time. I have a fairly fast AV drive on the stock controller. The output problems seem to be related to what apps I use, but I'll have to play with it some more to know for sure. I have similar problems with mine. I think it may be later versions of Quicktime but It's a long time since I set mine up. I'd have to go to the trouble of setting up 7.1 with Quicktime 1.6.1 and the 088 enabler to test it and frankly I can't be bothered :D. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Vintage Macs List Nanny Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Re(2): Question the QuadDoubler WONT WORK!!!
On Monday, Dec 23, 2002, at 03:30 Europe/London, Dan Palka wrote: I don't know who to belive anymore. I got people on one side telling me it won't work, people telling me it *could* work, people telling me it will definetly work, and one guy that gave me a guarantee and warantee on it that it will work There's no way it'll work (just to throw another hat in the ring) as it's designed for 20 and 25MHz Quadras. Anything faster than that and you will likely kill the CPU within seconds if it even boots. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Visit my Homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC 580
Does anyone know if you can put an LC 580 MB in an LC 520? Also, can you use 32 MB 72 pin Simms in a laserwriter pro 630 printer. It seems like you could use 32 MB Simms but only 16 MB would be recognized. I have extra 32 MB Simms to use, but no 16 MB. Mark Falzon 4 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Top vs. Bottom Posting
Just wanted to chime in that IMO, the long list of HTML pointers at the bottom of messages on some of our lists is abtrusive, especially when they are quoted, i.e, left in replies. Perhaps some of these pointers are required; I wonder if others could be clipped. __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Problem transplanting an 8100 motherboard to a Quad 800 case
On Thursday, Nov 7, 2002, at 02:52 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: At 21:04 -0500 on 06/11/02, David W. Owens wrote: seem to fit into the Q800 case. The cards fit into the PDS slot on the 8100 mobo just fine, of course, but once the board is mounted in the case, the frame won't allow me to fit a video card into the slot. I've scoured Ebay What if you carve up the frame a bit? N!!! All you need is a new back panel. There is space in their for the card it's just there is no 'hole' for the HPV card IIRC. Also there are several other things that don't 'fit' either. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: screwdriver
On Thursday, Nov 7, 2002, at 13:46 Europe/London, Dean Arthur wrote: Torx T-15 Not usually. Hard disk are usually Torx 8, 9 or 10, usually only 15 if they are big and old. I know I dismantled no less that 8 in a row one day, all dead from stiction or broken connector pins or lack of usefulness. No good working hard disks were harmed in the making of this e-mail... -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: screwdriver
On Thursday, Nov 7, 2002, at 17:45 Europe/London, R.A. Cantrell wrote: on 11/7/02 11:36 AM, Kris Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's all this harddrive dismantling about? Somebody doing the window mod? nope, I just have a bunch of dead drives around and I wanted to take a look at the innards, maybe divine the future or something. Ditto me. I had a stack of 8 in my wardrobe when I left University - now I just have a big pile of shiny platters and a brilliant 3.5 metal tray for my desk (for keeping small screwdrivers, screws and the like in - it WAS the top of a 350MB HP hard disk) instead :). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Replacement PSU for LC-series?
On Thursday, Oct 31, 2002, at 02:44 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/ category.cgi?category=480item=PS-27type=store Was just browsing All Electronics and found the above, which bears a striking resemblance to the LC/LCII/LCIII/LC475 PSU, minus the power switch. It does, it is missing the lug-holes at the for the 2 plastic keys, and the connector is slightly different (but will almost certainly still fit). I'm not sure about the length. Looks a bit long but it might just be the picture. However, it has a +5V trickle. So here's a going-way-out-on-a-limb thought: what if you used this as a PSU in an LC? Does the mobo have a +5V trickle that would enable this PSU to give the LCs soft-power capability? Nope. You could try feeding the +5V trickle over the +5V line on the LC to see if it could pickup the sense signal but I doubt it would. I would like to know how it is triggered to on if it has no switch. It may be on all the time? It might need to be laoded on the trickle line? I don't know enough about this sorta thing. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Never send a human to do a machine's job. -The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Replacement PSU for LC-series?
On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 00:20 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: What about that empty hole on the board? :) There is no track underneath it. If you put a hole thru it you'd cut one of the existing tracks that runs under that part of the board, which I doubt is to do with trickle 5V lines or anthing that cool. I wrote that email with an LCIII logic board in one hand... I'm guessing the latter, which is pretty much how the standard Mac PSUs that support it work. Yep, thought so. IIRC that's how ATX supplies work too. The is there a chance that pressing the power key might cause sufficient power draw to kick it in? What about turning the thing off? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Remember, all I am offering is the truth, nothing more - The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Radius Video Card
On Monday, Oct 28, 2002, at 00:56 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: T only works on the Thunder IV. Has anyone here ever had to reset a Thunder IV? I have swapped mine through 2 machines (840av and IIci) and 3 monitors and it has never failed to kick in. What can be achieved by pressing this button? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com I think we can handle one little girl I sent two units. They're bringing her down now. No Lieutenant, your men are already dead. - The Matrix -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new monitors with (and new uses for) old Macs
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 01:31 Europe/London, John Niven wrote: 1) play audio CD's (in stereo). Sadly only 22KHz stereo which is excruciating if you are use to 48KHz Digital audio. I had a 7.5GB hard disk in mine and a 6300 logic board. I could easily have used SoundJam to turn it into a JukeBox but the sound was just too limp compared to my G3. 2) watch TV. Picture;s not great, lets be honest. I get a much higher quality picture using a VCR plugged through my 840av. 3) play videos (and DVD's if I hook that up). Playing PAL videos in a predominantly NTSC country is very cool. As for DVDs I don't think I am going to be satisfied until I get a 23 HD Cinema display ;). 4) play the latest video games. Wow. That is kinda neat. I guess the picture quality isn't fantastic but who has the cash for a 28 HDTV Widescreen television anyway? 5) get on the internet (when I get my wife to OK broadband :) Now that IS worth a shot :), it'll be slightly sluggish for internet use, even with broadband. Be warned that 68k MAcs are not great at decoding JPEG images so the load time on some pages will be looonn Now that's what I call a Home Entertainment System, and for a total of $34.45! You just gotta look for a Mac's strong points, and kit it out right. For $34.45 it's great. I guess I had many of the features better elsewhere before or during the time I had a 630CD so I'm not looking at it from the same POV. I'm just bringing it into a perspective. I dunno what your guys would pay for a basic quality 15 TV over there but I suspect it's cheaper and does more stuff. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Q800
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 14:40 Europe/London, Hardy Menagh wrote: iCab did a better overall job with the page but still showed the frowny face in the menu bar so the page may have some HTML problems that need resolving. Practically every site on the net (apart from mine!!!) causes iCab to frown. It's a combination of bad HTML and people who write CGI, ASP and stuff like that that spews out bad HTML. Even my pages have some problems that the debugger in BBEdit swore at me about but I had to do them to make it look right. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Q800
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 19:15 Europe/London, E McCann wrote: I tend to write stuff by hand, just basic HTML, with CSS. No ASP, nothing fancy - I'll still (apparently) get the frown on iCab, possibly something as basic as not having a closing /p tag That's a 'warning' rather than the sad face which is an outright error. It's simply good practice to debug your code. As pickle says either run it through the W3C validator or invest a few bucks in a copy of BBEdit - you won't be sorry, I know I'm not, it makes HTML a whiz. but they look fine, work on every browser I've tried (not trying Lynx, as most of my pages need - well, graphics) and get their point across. There's always on out there that'll make a mess of something really simple and 9/10 times it won't be one you've tried. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Q800
On Friday, Oct 18, 2002, at 23:31 Europe/London, David W. Owens wrote: Have you thought about using text browsers rather than graphics browsers? MacLynx and Wannabe both run fine on my Q800. I use iCab 2.82 on my Q805 hack (http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/q805.html) and it is great considering the machine it's running on. Regard what you are running the browser on and then apply an appropriate amount of patience and you will be fine with a graphical browser. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: new monitors with old Macs
On Thursday, Oct 17, 2002, at 17:25 Europe/London, the pickle wrote: 832x624. Not possible; the 630-series VRAM can't be upgraded, and LC PDS video cards are pretty terrible performers. I'm pretty sure my 630 used to do 832x624256 colors. IIRC they have 1MB VRAM -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:quadlist;mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:quadlist-off;mail.maclaunch.com For digest mode, email: mailto:quadlist-digest;mail.maclaunch.com Subscription questions: mailto:listmom;lowendmac.com Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac to PC VGA adaptor
On Saturday, Oct 12, 2002, at 18:40 Europe/London, steve wrote: Hi, I have a mac to PC VGA monitor adaptor. In use it produces a nice crisp image but unfortunatley the screen is cycling downwards on the monitor at a rate of knots. I am begining to think I have the wrong adaptor for the monitor which is an SVGA PC no name model. Am I right or have alternatives to buying a new adaptor or giving up on the whole idea? Some older adapters are made specifically for Macs that use 'Sync on green' such as Mac II and early nubus or pds graphics boards. This would mean one of the sync lines would be on the green colour channel. If you monitor does not support this it would be without that sync line (in this case v.sync) causing the picture to scroll. Get a new adapter, one with at least 10 switches and make sure you get the instruction sheet with it as they are hard to work without one. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac to PC VGA adaptor
On Saturday, Oct 12, 2002, at 18:40 Europe/London, steve wrote: Hi, I have a mac to PC VGA monitor adaptor. In use it produces a nice crisp image but unfortunatley the screen is cycling downwards on the monitor at a rate of knots. I am begining to think I have the wrong adaptor for the monitor which is an SVGA PC no name model. Am I right or have alternatives to buying a new adaptor or giving up on the whole idea? Some older adapters are made specifically for Macs that use 'Sync on green' such as Mac II and early nubus or pds graphics boards. This would mean one of the sync lines would be on the green colour channel. If you monitor does not support this it would be without that sync line (in this case v.sync) causing the picture to scroll. Get a new adapter, one with at least 10 switches and make sure you get the instruction sheet with it as they are hard to work without one. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central My homepage: http://homepage.mac.com/markbenson/ -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
62006500?
Prolly a question for the 1st Powermac list, but I thought I saw someone here say they upgraded a 6200 to 6500? Just straight motherboard swap? __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quarda 840av/ Power Mac 8100 Floppy Bracket
On Saturday, Oct 5, 2002, at 21:45 Europe/London, John Kocijanski wrote: Hello. I have a Quadra 840av with a auto inject floppy in it. I wanted to put a manual inject floppy in it and thought all I needed was a bezel from a Power Mac 8100 to do this. I wanted the auto inject floppy for another machine. The bezel fits fine but the drive sits too low in the 840 auto inject bracket for a floppy to eject properly. Does the 8100 have a different floppy bracket than the 840? If so will that bracket fit in the 840? Thanks. My 840av has a plastic 'sled' that the manual inject drive attaches to via the screw mount points in the BASe of the drive. I also know from other machines I have worked on that swapping the floppy from auto- to manual-inject will lead to alignment problems. The 8100 sled and floppy should fit the 800 and 840av. Can you describe what the auto-inject bracket looks like? -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hello, Quadlisters!
On Thursday, Sep 26, 2002, at 20:18 Europe/London, vicki wrote: To Mark Yes there is three drives in there I put them in. i should have said when i got the case it was bare so i fitted all the drives and cd and ram but i have a couple of macs at my sisters that i intend to take bits out of . Wow. The bottom two drives are stack on each other in a bracket i made to hold the pair together in my 7200 both slim drives and the bracket is made from macano. OMG. I wish I had mecano, I'd make drive brakets with it too!!! I just wanted to check the bits would work first. OK, so what size are the drives? What CD-RW are we looking at? As an add-on to my previous post, OS 8.0 (which should really be updated to 8.1 ASAP) will handle practically any size drive you throw at it. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
My first Hack
I suppose for those that are not on 68kMLA, AppleFritter or Vintage Macs I should post a link to my first hack. You can just read all about it in the AppleFritter forums and look at the pretty pictures. It's all explained there. http://www.applefritter.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/ YaBB.pl?board=hacks;action=display;num=1032846091 What was that about people making do with 'Road Apples'? What the hell, lets just bolt 2 together and make them work better!! -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hello, Quadlisters!
On Wednesday, Sep 25, 2002, at 18:50 Europe/London, Wade Rackley wrote: Greetings! Hello :). But am I missing some fatal flaw that would make me want to migrate to another '040? The hell no :). I think you are making very good use of an old machine and, while it's not exactly a sprinting machine, it's pretty nice all the same. Here is my setup: Quadra 700/50 MHz Sonnet QuadDoubler, 68 MB RAM, 2 MB VRAM, 2 GB 7200 rpm Baracuda HD, with a 17 Apple Color Monitor, Apple 600e CD ROM Drive, OneScanner, Personal LaserWriter 320, all PAINSTAKINGLY painted flat black and dull-coted (looks great, too). It is running 7.1 with a few add-ins from Gamba's site and a 7.5.5 System Folder. I use Eudora 3.1.3 and iCab and older versions of my favorite applications. This old thing, when running this setup, feels quite fast in the finder, is not bad on the WWW, and is really fun for me to use. Holly cow. It's a really nice piece of work you got there. The black paint must look awesome. Imagines his 840av and '805' in black and drools on his keyboard I also love Macintosh IIci machines (I have a pretty jazzed up IIci in my arsenal :) ). The cases look a little clunky by modern standards but there is a charm about them I can't quite place, perhaps the easy opening case or reversible desktop/tower option. Since the Q700 is in the same case, apart from the front panel details, it seems fine to me to love yours, especially in black :). So (again), what am I missing here? Should I get a different Quadra and transfer my upgrades to it? Hell no, you have put a lot of effort into your setup as it is, don't go ripping it apart for a little extra speed and RAM. I find 68MB fine on any 68k apart from my 840av which is a vid. cap. platform so needs all it can get. Is this a viable only system for me at home? H... I'm a little biased as I have a shiny Jaguarified G3/400 on my deks and an iBook 300 in my napsack so I couldn't, I tried to use my 840av as an 'only' system and couldn't. If you are used to it and can accept it's limits there is no reason why YOU can't though. I use a Lombard as my main machine, but the mother board is in the throes of a slow death. Ouchy :(. That's not nice :*( I will then be left with this 700 hobby machine and my trusty SE/30 as my only web and productivity machines until I can save up the cash needed to buy a new Mac (which will be quite a while, unfortunately for me...) I am in a similar if not nearly so badly stricken position, I had to twist my bank manager's arm to get the £400 for my G3/400 but I'm glad I did, at least my bank manager had a sore arm for a few hours ;). Have I invested too much time in a Mac that is dead end rather than low end? HELP!! No. There is no such thing. I believe that the more you invest in a Mac the more it gives you back. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Hello, Quadlisters!
On Wednesday, Sep 25, 2002, at 21:29 Europe/London, vicki wrote: 1. can i stick 4 x 512 vram chips in.and will they only be recognised as 256. Got it in 1. It says this in the service manual, which I have read in excruciating detail! 2.what is the hdd max size i can fit. Well I have a pair of 9GB drives in mine :). Really it is only limited by what OS you use and how much you want to spend. 3. what is the max ram this will take. 128MB, 4x32MB. Not bad for a machine built in 1992! 4. can i put a cdrw in place of the cd and what version of toast will i need. Yeh, 1x or 2x CD-R drive are available on eBay real cheap. Toast 3.1.4 I believe is a good one for 68ks but, having a combo drive in my G3, I have never needed to investigate, sorry, that sounded terrible but I can't help having a spiffy computer!! Get a cheap copy on eBay or the LEM Swap List. the current os is 8.0 on all of the drives. Only the drive that contains the folder called 'System Folder' has the OS on. The others are just file storage for stuff. Do you know if it has 3 actual hard disks in or 3 partitions? It's really hard to get 3 hard disks in there and I'd like to know how it was done. The lid is easily removed (turn the machine off for piece of mind!), just unscrew the 4 tabs at the back and slide the metal shell forwards. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: My first Hack
On Wednesday, Sep 25, 2002, at 23:04 Europe/London, Mark Benson wrote: http://www.applefritter.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/ YaBB.pl?board=hacks;action=display;num=1032846091 Sorry. Bloody mail program. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Open Transport from 8.1...
...can one just swap it into a 7.5.3 rev2, like one might do with the Appearance control panel? Still trying to get my LC 580 on an ethernet network, and I've heard the OT in 8.1 is so much better. __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
comm slot question
Is the comm slot on a 6200 the same as the one in a LC 580/Quadra 630? I am trying to move the Ethernet card over to the 6200. I can't seem to get the LC 580 to find the network socket on a cable-modem router under 7.5.3 rev 2 [if anyone has any advice on that. Appletalk sees the Ethernet option, but won't accept the change]. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 660AV 840AV software suggestions ..
On Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002, at 09:37 Europe/London, E McCann wrote: Might want to ask on the MacAV list. I'm interested in the answers myself - as well as how to get the captures to capture *well* and not stay as a Simpletext-based movie! OTOH, the MacAV list is rather... slow, apparently. *shrug* I don't see much from 'em! We only wake up when we are asked a question ;). I have had questions answered within 24h on there so don't knock it :). As for the original question I'd say try to get a hold of Avid Videoshop 3.0. It came with the Performa TV Tuner/Video cap. kit. It's pretty basic but it does the job. Personally I use Premier 4.2 (which is kinda cramped on a 640x480 screen!!!) and it works good but I also have a Spigot PowerAV card and a pair of 9GB Cheetah Hard Disks shoe-horned into my 840av :). -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Excellent game I found in 68040
On Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002, at 09:38 Europe/London, E McCann wrote: If I find another copy... got mine for 50 cents, used! Oh, if you can find the battle chest or older version (not the battle.net edition, which is PPC only) you can try the sequel, Warcraft II. (Not III, which they want a G3 on and IMHO is rather boring anyway.) Yeh, I agree. WCII is just like the old one but with a better interface and better graphics and some extremely funny 'repeated clicking' dialog on the units, especially the ork side. I want to track down a copy of WCII for my G3. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 660AV 840AV software suggestions ..
On Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002, at 15:40 Europe/London, Clark Martin wrote: At 1:40 AM -0500 9/17/2002, Stephen M. Jones wrote: Also, does the system need VRAM in order to push video out? I've followed instructions to have it display on a TV monitor but the monitor's and sound control panel made no mention of 'using the TV as a display device' .. maybe I need to look for that elsewhere? IIRC on the 840AV you need to add VRAM to use both the DA-15 video out and NTSC (S-Video - MiniDIN4 or Composite - RCA) video out. Before trying to switch to NTSC make sure you have a monitor attached, it senses the presence of a load and won't activate if it doesn't see one. Sorry - yeh, he's right. I take the fact mine came with 2MB VRAM already installed for granted some times :). It takes Quadra 512MB VRAM SIMMs. I *think* they have to be 60ns, not sure if it's 60 or 70ns but they are suppose to be the faster ones not the slow one from LCs. -- Mark Benson AIM - SilValleyPirate Visit FlatPackMacs online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Mac LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
7.1 hacks and other stuff
I'd like to encourage Scott to document his hacks to 7.1; I myself have been contemplating downgrading from 8.1 and 7.5.3 rev 2. 8.1 seems to manage the memory better, but then again, it takes double the ram to run. 7.5 does have the Open Transport, and I'm hooking my mac's up to an ethernet network. But I'd love to get the OT and the Modern memory manager working for 7.1! Also, can anyone on the list help me identify this odd card: it is green and about 6 inches long, maybe 3 inches across. It is connected to a silver metal bar, where a SCSI port sits. The bar in fact says in big white letters SCSI PORT. On the card itself is a silver chip that says: TXC 40.000 Mhz 500NT 9641. Then there's a black chip that says: DTCT 436E. It looks like it has on its edge 36 pins that might slide into some sort of expansion slot---though none I've ever seen. On the card there is also some writing, a diagram really, of J1/J2 on/off/ pnp. Any guesses? __ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac monitor to a PC
Actually you are the first, but it would explain a few odd things that was happening with my system, which I just reinstalled yesterday. Thanks for that. Of course how do you know I'm not in the future Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:13:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Mac monitor to a PC From: John Teffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: mark mccague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:38:20 +0100 Hi Mark, Sorry if I'm the 100th person to point this out, but you're clock is about 6 years fast... -John -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Mac monitor to a PC
Only ST apple monitor I've seen is the 20 multiscan i've currently cgot= connected to my pc! yeah to my PC and that's where it's staying ;-) Hey how do you connect a Mac monitor to a PC? I've a 14 Apple trinitron that I was hoping I could use on one of my PC's. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
As you know, there is no PPC card for a Q840. Uh-huh. Exactly :) Wouldn't the one for the LC475 work? Definitely not. The LCs only have PDS Slots and the PDS slot on the 840av, although present, is AV functions only and very titchy and generally non-standard. The answer therefore is Nope. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840av
But the LC475 upgrade goes directly into the 040 socket, not the PDS slot. Aaa, I see. Still probably nope but it'd be worth a shot. Anyone got one they could lend me? -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Confusion!
Eh, I've used my 68ks for browsing, and it's not a waste of time. It does require patience, but it's far from a waste of time. It's quite tolerable on my my 640CD and Quadra 840AV. Using iCab it's positively gratifying, I have browsed Apple's own website using iCab on a 50Mhz accelerated SE/30 before now and, even if it is in Black and White, it has a definite cool factor :). I can say that with iCab and a 68040 powered Quadra or LC Mac it's a very useful thing. I don't personally browse on 68ks as I have a PowerMac 7500 (w/ 604e/200) and an iBook 300Mhz going 24/7 but I know it can be done. Just avoid Netscape. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: I've been here for a while and am now particapating
Can you tell me you actually LIKED that beast??? I did own a 5300-CS Powerbook at one time, the one that was subject to all the recalls and battery problems. Even after mine got fixed, this thing would burn your legs after 20 minutes of use! Those batteries still got HOT with usage! My iBook does that too. I just put a newspaper on my legs. I wish I could've loved mine. It had a 603e PPC processor at 117-MHz, but it was dog-poop slow compared to my anemic PowerMac 7200/90. The reason was mainly because the Powerbook had no Level 2 cache at all (that I'm aware of, and if it did have one, it was not just anemic, it had lukemia --sp--). It sucked where speed was concerned. IT was probably the 603e. The 100-120MHz 603es suck as far as I can tell. I have a 6300CD (was a Q 630 to keep it on topic ;) ) and it's not particularly at running OS 8.1, even though it's got a nice 7200rpm hard disk in it. Just another lesson: DON'T buy ANYTHING that's first generation. Same thing applies to x.0 software -- wait for the updates/upgrades before plunging in. I've been there/done that far too many times now. I know. See OS 7.1, 8.1, 9.1, 10.1, 10.2 etc I do have but one exception. My 300MHz iBook its a gem and it's an original Jan. 1999 Tangy. It has, granted, had the hard disk replaced with a 10GB unit as part of the refurb, and I fitted a 256MB DIMM and an Airport Card but that just makes a good machine even sweeter. The only thing I had a problem with was the power adapter but mwahh, that's not part of the computer. It runs 10.1.5 as sweet as a nut (OK it's not a G4 but it's almost as good as a 500Mhz iceBook) and copes well with being bounced around the place. (Exceptions to this rule seem to be Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop.) Not so, the new versions always need patches. In fact, according to the head of the Cartographic department at my Uni, Illustrator 9.0.2 is littered with bugs. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 840 Quadra system upgrade
Hello, can someone tell me if I can upgrade my 840 Quadra running system 8.0 to 8.5 or higher. I am not sure on its limitations. Thank you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, the 68040 powered Macs will only go up to Mac OS 8.1. 8.1 is pretty good however on the 840av and is sufficient to run applications like AppleWorks 5.0 and other reasonably up to date 68k compatible apps. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 650 - PPC Upgrade / Broadband
Wait til T1 shows up in your area. We have it via RF link to houses/businesses here in Star Valley on west side of Wyoming. 25x faster than 53K modem and 6x faster than DSL with [to date - 6 months after installation - no problems] for install fee of 450.00 and monthly cost of 25.00 - what I was paying ISP for unlimited 53K connection. $450 is a bit much for the average man to fork out, even as a one-off installation fee. I think most people would be happy with DSL to be honest, unless you regularly download Linux/BSD Distros and other large data files. Me, well I'm stuck here on a 64k ISDN line but it does the job and it's on 24/7 so I don't much care :). -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Quadra 650 - PPC Upgrade
I have a Quadra 650 at home, and am getting Road Runner. Unfortunately, the minimum requirements are 75 MHz PPC running System 8.6 or higher. Of course, I can use my Windose work laptop, but I am hoping to find a cheap solution for my Mac. From what I was able to dig up, I have the following options: 1) Buy a used PPC Mac (saw PCI clone PowerMac 7200 / 90 MHz for $175) 2) Buy an apple PPC daughter board (don't know how much used ones cost) 3) Buy a 7100 / 80 MHz motherboard upgrade kit ($100 from Nexcomp) Am I missing anything? I'd be grateful for any recommendations. A router. It's as simple as that. We were going to piss about with USB modems and such on our ISDN line but instead plumped for a low cost ISDN router. It's as good as gold, doesn't care what OS your machines are running and it's small and silent. Especially with DSL, you can use more than one computer at once with zero fuss, just attach it to an existing LAN. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: LEM European Swap List.
Thank you for all the support that has flooded in for the LEM European Swap List. I think we can make this a reality. The number of 'votes' has surpassed 20 recently and they are still coming in. I have polled the 1st PowerMacs and PCI PowerMacs list to see if anyone else on there is interested. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LC 520/580 and ethernet
I am trying to get these two machines on a cable-modem internet connection; actually, my mac's will be on a router that originates from a pc. The 580 seems to have an ethernet port, but the 520 doesn't. Suggestions? Also, what's the going rate these days for memory for these machines? __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
LEM European Swap List.
Firstly sorry for the cross post but I want to get as wide an audience of 68k users as I can. I know it's off topic but it does concern LEM business (potentially) and is of genuine interest to a great number of people inside the European Union. The reason for this message is to ask any EU residents who subscribe to the LEM lists if they would like to see a European Swap List on LEM. I have 5 people already who have come out in support of the idea but anyone else who would be willing to put there names forward in support of the idea please e-mail me off-list to let me know. The more people who support this idea the more likely it is we can persuade Dan to do it when he restructures the lists around LEMlists.com later this year. We believe this idea would be greatly advantageous to EU member as the current Swap List is predominantly US/Canada based and it is not so easy for EU members to get stuff in from over there. Trade is pretty much restriction free in the EU (thanks to EU free trade laws) so an EU swap list has potential to be very useful to those inside the EU that use these lists. It also takes more emphasis to sell on other lists away for those EU user that may become frustrated by their EU sales items getting swamped on the main Swap List. Thank You in advance for any support. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Quadra - Epson printer
Thats why I got the Epson 750. Last printer I could find (in my part of the world) that has a Apple serial port. It was bought to replace a Personal LaserWriter LS which stopped working and which the repair shop lost. Other than work processing I can't really think what to use the Quadra for. Its too slow for a MP3 server or encoding machine. Besides the 9500 I have has the advantage of PCI slots so it can take a USB card, which makes it possible to do a lot more with it. -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
More RAM
Actually I did stick some old PC ram in my quadra before. Am I right in thinking the RAM has to be 30pin SIMMs of 60ns. Will slower ram be a problem? -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630
Erm, no. it's the model numbers 631CD, 630 DOS Compatable and the 640 DOS Compatable which had 2 SIMM slots. Well it's funny that I have a Performa 630 (with CD) and it's got 2 SIMM slots. To the best of my knowledge it's never been a DOS machine either. Kinda puts a bit of a clanger on that theory don't it ;). I think you will find that it is very much more arbitrary as to whether Apple put 2 or 1 slot logic boards in the machines in question. From my experience trying to fathom the mystery of when they swapped from the 2nd to the 3rd design of LC case, I can tell you it's probably not even related to the model of machine, instead it depends on what was available at the time and which models required what related to other parts needed and used. Sound complicated? Sure it is, that's what designing as manufacturing process is all about. My theory is that, while the 630 machines were being made and sold, Apple was making the boards on a batch process and shipping them to their various assembly plants to be put into the cases (which are all the same bar the CD/non CD bezels -AFAIK). At some stage they merged in a new design of logic board with more memory space available (2 slots instead of 1) to be used on all models. This filtered into all the machines eventually but meant that some lines got old boards and some new, inevitably. If you polled every single 63x machine in the US and Europe you may be able, after cross referencing the data with the time of release of various models, to determine a rough timescale for the transition but no more than that, unless you look at the manufacturing and assembly logs. It's only a theory but I think it's pretty sound. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630
At 11:57 +1000 on 23/06/02, Michael Dawe wrote: Max RAM AFAIK is 64 MB + the onboard 4 MB. Try 196MB. I've seen one working with a 128MB SIMM in the first slot, a 64MB SIMM in the second, and the 4MB onboard. I used a pair of 64MB single bank 72-pin SIMMS in mine. I then pulled the board and replaced it with a 6300CD board and it now only has 32MB from the same SIMMs - god knows why Apple DOWNGRADED the RAM controller -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 630
as far as I know, the 631 was the only of the series to come with 2 ram slots - others only had one... or had one and the solder pads to connect another if you were determined :). My 630 also only has the one RAM slot. Well my Perform,a 630 has 2 RAM slots. I just looked. They are on the left edge of the logic board (looking from the back) and are slightly staggered from each other. The ethernet card from the 475 has a very similar connector to a NuBus one - it's an LC PDS slot card. They might look the same but I can assure you, as Dana says, they ain't the same. Notice also that the slot in the 630 is significantly longer and has an extended part at the inside end that is 6x3 pins in size. This is a key distinguishing feature from NuBus slots as non of the NuBus slots were that long. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Cable Internet and the 840av
I realize that this has been covered before (many times!), but I cannot find the e-mails I saved or reference to set up in the FAQ. I should tell you the internet connectivity was running fine under 7.5.5, but other things were not, so I decided to wipe the HD and update to 8.1. I have an Asante Friendlynet adapter that is getting power and connects good to the ethernet cable (I think, the light on it goes green at least). 840 is configured as follows: 40mb RAM 1.2 gig HD w/ OS 8.1 (fresh, clean install as of yesterday) IE 3.01 and Netscape 3.01 (both to be updated asap) Only stuff on the hard drive is what was on the 8.0 install CD and the 8.1 updater. 840 is set up as follows: Under TCP/IP Connect via: Ethernet Configure:Using DHCP Server IP Address: will be supplied by server Subnet mask: will be supplied by server Router address: will be supplied by server Name serve addr: will be supplied by server Search domains: left blank Under advanced options: Make TCP/IP: Active is checked Load only when needed is unchecked Any help would be greatly appreciated. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm bad but I'm not that stupid... Unlike some correspondents to the mailing list, this writer means no malice. Neither did I, I was just 'avin' a larrff as the say in London. But you're smart and tenacious, Mark. Congratulations on getting your SPAV to working. :-) Thx. It's still not running to plan but it's mostly software niggles and, I think, the old RAID problem you mentioned. Does it truly write to your RAID? No, and I don't think it ever will but hey, it was a nice idea :). -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As far as other utilities go it shows up in the 'about' dialog of the Radius Dynamic Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio 1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio, made by BUG, is actually the Japanese version but it's the same card). If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or something like that I'll try those instead... SPAV doesn't require Radius Dynamic Desktop, which might simnly bring out incompatibilities. Radius Dynamic Desktop seems to be aimed at VVS users. AFAIK Radius Dynamic Desktop never did ship with SPAV. I would disable all of that stuff, and try to run a a minimum set of just the necessary extensions, especially Quicktime version whatever (free v2.5 is a good staring point) and Spigot AV Extension v1.1. Well seeing as how I have a Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX Graphics card I'd rather not disable the DSP Support and the Dynamic desktop support. I never intended to use it with the SPAV card it was just a reference to show the card wasn't dead, I'm bad but I'm not that stupid ;). I got it to work anyway, you know what it was? I HAVE to have a monitor plugged into the onboard graphics controller to use the AV system's video digitizer, not into the NuBus graphics card. Man some things are just to finikity for their own good!! -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
Mark Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a Jackhammer NuBus card with the 2 9GB drives attached... Do try it with the Jackhammer stuff completely disabled. The SPAV likes to write to a single spindle drive. I did that, I even pulled the card out too. Several people have said it prefers non-RAID but I can't see why it matters or for that matter how it can tell. Either way it didn't make a jot of difference. BTW are we talking Q840av now? Yes. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
Does Apple System Profiler or Slot Info show the card is installed? I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As far as other utilities go it shows up in the 'about' dialog of the Radius Dynamic Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio 1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio, made by BUG, is actually the Japanese version but it's the same card). If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or something like that I'll try those instead, I'm willing to give anything a shot, even if it's in Japanese! -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New to the list
At 13:32 -0400 on 09/06/02, David Schultz wrote: Im also new to the list, just yesterday and already I need someone to please clarify, is the pickle a bot or a real person, so I can either filter his Oh, filter away. Your loss. You won't last long on this list by ignoring me. Why not, I'm sure some one else can tell him to read the FAQ ;). Seriously tho pickle it's a bit pompous to presume you know everything and no-one will get far without you and it's not the first time you've done it either. Granted you do know a lot and can be useful at times, especially if I need a quick answer. David, try to be a little more understanding, there are a lot of very diverse personalities on this list, pickle is just a bit 'to the point' that's all :). -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: New to the list
At 19:16 +0100 on 09/06/02, Mark Benson wrote: Why not, I'm sure some one else can tell him to read the FAQ ;). Quite true - you offering? :) No - I don't know what's in the damn thing, as you well know I'm notorious for neglecting to read it in fact. I'm sorry, no diss on the FAQ it's just my mind doesn't work well enough to be able to find something in it.. Seriously tho pickle it's a bit pompous to presume you know Not presuming such. I'm presuming that David, like the last five or six newbies who have gotten an attitude about I'm too good to read FAQs and list rules, will be gone if he keeps ignoring my advice. And those last five or six didn't leave on their own terms, either. Aha, I get your drift. It's true. Hint, hint. Hint, hint, hint. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
Hmm. I have a Q840AV running 8.1 with a Spigot Power AV. I'll power it up in a few and see what all I have in the way of control panels and extensions and what all shows up where. The card is, beyond doubt, perfectly 100% fine. I got it to work under 7.1 and actually recorded via it. I used it with QT 1.6.2 and 2.1 with no trouble (using the 1.1.1 driver). As soon as I tried it with OS 7.5 is wouldn't have it. Now I'm stuck as my AV drives are both 9GB and the roof for Volumes in 7.1 is 2GB which is damn all use to me really. Also Avid Videoshop doesn't run under Sys 7.1. So either I have an Spigot or I have my AV drives and I can't currently have both. Does anyone know if there is a newer ROM than 1.0? That's what mine is but I suspect there is a better one maybe, I dunno if it's flashable -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Spigot Power AV Problem
If you wish, I can email you Spigot AV Extension v1.1. Maybe it would work for you, like it would for me. I can't go earlier than 7.6.0 as I have an FWB RAID 0 array on my Jackhammer (also newly installed and going like a train ) and it doesn't load in 7.5.5 (I don' t have the FWB RTK extension installed, does that help??). AFAIK SPAV and SPRO are not compatible with mutiple disk arrays. Single-disk capture is recommended. I've found success with OS 8.1 and lower. Interesting, I'm willing to try anything. I have taken the following measures: Seating - it damn well IS seated right I've checked repeatedly, taken it out and putzed around with it and put it back in and still no dice. I swear it is being detected but something else, possibly the bus or something , is preventing it from working fully. Drivers - I have the 1.1 Drivers for the Spigot AV line (the readme includes the PowerAV so I presume it's the right driver, still no dice. Quicktime - I have tried the following versions: 1.6.2 2.1 2.5 3.0 4.0.2 and non work. System - I have tried 7.5.5, 7.6.0 and 8.1 Other - I have zapped the PRAM, removed the card and zapped the PRAM and them re-installed it, I've tried fresh copies of both the 1.0 and 1.1 drivers and still it refuses to work. I'm at my wits end. I'm just glad it's not 1994 and I didn't pay several 100s of dollars for it, or I'd be mighty miffed. As it was I only paid $14.99 plus a bit of shipping to get it over to the UK. -- -- Mark Benson Any spelling errors are attributed to PEBKAC Vintage Macs List Nanny SilValleyPirate - AIM silicon_valley_pirate_uk - Yahoo! Visit Flat Pack Macs Online: http://fpm.gotdns.com Macintosh LC Central -- Quadlist is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Quadlist info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/quadlist.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/quadlist%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
