Hi Everyone,
Just a heads-up that we launched a new theme today for the rivbike.com
webstore. We enlarged the photos all around, spruced up the homepage,
improved the search, and updated a number of things for a smoother
experience on desktop and mobile. We hope you like it!
The other big
Kind of the idea is to cram the biggest wheel into any frame that'll fit it
without actual cramming. As the front wheel inches more forward (a result
of longer tt, slacker ht, more rake), the room for a bigger tire, and
bigger tire with fender, increases. In back it's easy, just stretch the
Two wheelers
Family: Muscle-powered ones
Genus: Rivendell
Species: Name your model
Once the species has changed enough, it can't be in that species anymore. The
Pbike comes in the same sizes as the Cheviot, but it's longer, has V-brakes, a
different mid-joint, bigger wheels in the 55, a different
We "crowdsourced" store credits---not donations--- at a critical time for
us, and if you contributed and haven't bought anything, your credit remains
on the books. We've never asked for outright donations, and I wouldn't do
that. Many businesses--from wholesalers like Trek, etc---and virtually
HI Patrick,
I either never got your email or missed it entirely, which isn't unheard
of...
Like others have said, It's a Rosco Bubbe MT Mixte with 2.25 G-One Allround
tires.
-will
On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I sent an email to Will asking that
My favorite non-Blue Lug store in Tokyo is Water Dog Garden in..Musashino?
But you have to like dogs.
On Wednesday, July 25, 2018 at 9:07:24 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> We'll be bikeless, and will be in Tyoko for a week then Kyoto.
>
> Blug Lug, Sim Works watch a Kerin race, planning on
n the president. That's fine, he's entitled to his opinion. Me, I'm
> free to shop elsewhere.
>
> My values and beliefs aren't welcome at Rivendell, so in the future, I'll
> spend my money elsewhere. No big deal.
> To be honest Grant lost me years ago
On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Nitto tests bars and stems together and wants the bars to break before the
> stem. The bars are already strong, and they've found that even 51s (we had
> samples made) impose too much leverage
Nitto tests bars and stems together and wants the bars to break before the
stem. The bars are already strong, and they've found that even 51s (we had
samples made). The workaround might be to make stronger stems, but then you
get into a whole escalating mish-mash where one chases the other, and
The forks lengths follow the tire size and brake requirements, and there's
so much to it, when you do it the way we do it--some 650b forks are 388,
some are 370, and there's a 399 looming there. Suspension forks have to be
super long to account for suspension, and the extra length means extra
Even though many of the guesses are 75 percent accurate, this bike is bound
to disappoint throngs, but not by intent. There is already tons of variety
in mtn bikes. More than a dozen categories--jumpers, pumpers, xc, dh,
hardtails, fat, plus, e, enduro... No matter what we do, there's going to
p 83/84 of Just Ride -- a chapter harshly titled "Electrolytes for
Cheapskates and Dummies" suggests (detail not included here so I don't have
to type as much)--but basically, heavily diluted OJ + salt...or V-8/tomato
juice as it is (not the unsalted kind) , or coconut water/milk with salt.
For the record, we've never seen a funky threading on a Clem-or-other
dropout, but users are capable of messing them up. Clem is especially
tolerant, tho, because the upper dropout mount is M6 (for the rack), and if
you mount the rack, as we suggest, on the lower seat stay braze-on (a true
If der is reluctant from outside, try it from inside, which tends to have
less paint. Then (need I say? hope not...) go at it again from the
outside. It's an M10 x 1 thread, we have taps, but if it isn't visually
thick with paint, just a little, we leave it. In my history, the thinking
was
My most puzzling click was fixed by greasing the post, too...about 42 years
ago. All the suggesions make sense. Additional notes: The click seems to
come from wherever you're looking when you're looking for it, and it might
not be there. Change one thing at a time, not two or more---so you can
Ha! So funny. I dig that flexibility.
Other catalog topic, the models: The last paragraph on p. 4 sort of
addresses the who-where of making bikes, but is intentionally vague, since
the American Homers, Atlantises, Hunqapillars, and Rodeos might have
changing futures. We're just working out
We have cable hangers, diff kinds front and rear..it's just (now) one of
the things you pick. When we included short adjustables, people wanted long
ones, and vice versa. So now you just get the one you want, you plunk out
$10 or whatever it is, and everybody happy, unless you think it should
t in
case...), and boss said Yes, and that's how it went.
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 6:34:12 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote:
>
> Thanks for your efforts and for Grant for the 40 and 44.
>
> As for the complete bit, Issue 44 has this to start the first paragraph:
> "When Rivende
It''s not for carrying loose gold dust or diamonds, but the Banana sack is
secure and adaptable to any load. There's a sleeve pocket for a phone, and
a stiffener opposite that, and you can put skinny jangly things in with the
stiffener, to secure them. If I have any doubts I just wad up a
I asked Brooks about thicknesses.
Steven Green, factory manager who has been with Brooks for almost 40 years
responded:
*There is absolutely no truth in this at all! We have always specified, to
my knowledge, 5.5mm to 6 mm as the target thickness. We do occasionally
receive leather
The catalog go into who gonna make what bikes where for how much and how
good they are. What it doesn't say (on p.4, the page that addresses this)
got left out not to sneak, but for two other reasons--easy to read bad
stuff into it, and there wasn't enough space to nuance it so you wouldn't.
Profligate inventory buying slims up our cushion of safety when an
unexpected blast hits, and our usual monthly $30,000 to $40,000 inventory
spending was cut back to $5,000 for the three months leading up to the
recent near-fall (even here I seemed cheap at that). It still wasn't
enough, but
wow, that's not what i think of when i think of new jersey. thirty-three
miles of that. it's such good riding, looks like.
On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 7:35:11 PM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:
>
> The Roadini proves to be very spritely on this quick 33 miles of gravely,
> flat, NJ Tow-Path. There were
This is the Nobel Prize of cycling-related compliments. Completely made me
morn <--say it the way Patrick would...it's the opposite of "made me mourn"
!) Lucky Bill!
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 3:46:38 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Fantastic, Bill! Well done, and a tip a’ me plaid
A lot of the answers to most of the questions might be answered in the
catalogue coming up in about 3 wks, and I don't want to deflate it before
it goes to print (in 2 weeks), so... we might not answer all of the
questions here before then or on BLUG-BLAHG. We're all way loose-lipped in
" and "The Whole Grain Ruse."
Those titles alone will turn off many, but the message in them all is the
same. It is to see past a food's commercial image, and see it in terms of
its sugar load.
At Rivendell, every birthday gets celebrated with the person's choice of
r
The QB and SimpleOne dropouts were water-jet cut in Woodinville, Washington
according to a drawing we sent them, and they worked well. They have a "no
funny business" look about them that, without being at all ugly, didn't
seem a good match with the rest of the stuff on the new FRANK...so BLUE
When society, opinion, fads, latest/greatest, and moralistic issues weigh
in on diets, there aren't any clear winners. The filter, it seems like,
ought to be your own digestive system ("chapters" no. 84, 85 in EBDJ).
People and sometimes their pets are the only animals that don't.
On
ll enjoyed that I got after it. Anyway, it was a memorable day on the
> bike, and it happened to be a day on the bike that demanded hydraulic disc
> brakes and through-axles and front suspension. There's no way I could have
> used a Rivendell, even a hypothetical fantasy Rivendell. T
>
> *The Resurrection of A. Homer Hilsen*
>
>
> There it was, there it sat.
>
> Bars akimbo, tires flat.
>
>
>
> Cluster missing, saddle worn.
>
> Dangling hemp-wrap. Dusty. Torn.
>
>
>
> Rubbed the down-tube, read the name:
>
> A. Homer Hilsen
iction shifters again. I had no issues
> when I got it built up and rode it. This is after having index shifting
> rear bikes for a while. I since have gotten a second bike rebuilt using
> some NOS SunTour Sprint downtube shifters. Had those shifters since before
> Rivendell finally
, René Rivera wrote:
>
> I just picked up a 56 cm Silver Rivendell Roadeo on the street for a very
> small amount of $. I am suspect it was stolen and am hoping to connect it
> to it's owner. It has a well worn brooks saddle and grips, full fenders
> with mudflaps, red soma tires. D
Shipped means picked, packed, boxed, labeled, prepared for pickup that day
at 4pm (in the case of UPS, which is 90 percent). If USPS, it means boxed
and taken to the post office that day. Everybody here knows the best-run,
most clocklike department here is shipping. A couple of times a year a
Seriously all that John and everybody has said. Jim means the world to me,
I have more respect for him than I can ever utter, and I know most of us
here feel some kind of version of that. He can write me under a tractor,
every sentence, things that I'd stew over and ultimately screw up with
Them the machined-after-forging ones, no doubt fine, but the ones coming up
are the '70s style, just forged. Same reach, but possibly--can't say
sure--some modern hardware tweaks.
On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 3:09:43 PM UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Lets talk these brakes Grant mentioned -
You can ride fixed, but since there's no coasting you have to be careful
about clipping pedals. With a 75 drop (track bikes have 60, commonly) and a
wider-than track cranky (presumably) there's more risk. That is hugely
abated by the larger tires--which more than makes up for the increased
There's new info there, but no full drawings. The chainstays are long
enough to easily accept a 38 tire moving back and forth, and probably with
a fender if you can finagle it (it's possible, as long as you don't insist
on supreme "fender lines" throughout the range). The seat- and head tube
My eye-opening into the possibilities of uprights, and swept-back ones at
that, came when I first talked to Freddie Hoffman, who rode 50,000 miles a
year all thru the eighties on sweptback uprights (sbu?). A similar
eye-opening came 21 years ago, when a customer who lives in Toronto, Jim
Sentence 3 should be "..we CAN'T afford to do everything."
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 9:37:12 AM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit
> speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dis
All is well here with the SS2 thing. We're not oblivious to double-digit
speed cassettes and the 1xwhatevers, and aren't even dismissive of them. We
can afford to address everything and we can't afford to do most of what we
do that makes us good or special. Nothing we do makes sense
This is the drag of being me and I hate it. I get to fear that my hating it
will reinforce the poster or give a loger life to it, start a discussion. I
know some have it worse and tere are bigger problems in the world, but the
idea that I can or should just slugh it off doesn't reconcile with
the current shifter mold is dying (I'm told), and we were working on a new
one. that project seemed permanently stalled--I'd given up, as anybody
here'd tell you--but there is now some hope. it'll be a new shape & mold.
On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 5:44:30 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
>
xcuse my funky typing in last one. babying a $#%@! typing injury and trying
a new technique..
On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 5:53:34 AM UTC-7, Doug H. wrote:
>
> I was just looking over the specs for the new Clem H and noticed they are
> using Alex DM 24 rims. According to the Alex website
alex made it before the emotorbike went big. it is nearly identical
(dimensionally) to the early '80s mtb rims, and at 32mm xternal wide, it is
ideal for holding 45mm to 60mm tires, even at low pressure. The sidewalls
are also appropriate for allaround rogh use and all-weather braking. the
In about 6 wks, by about Dec 10, we'll have 20 total/6 sizes UP TO 59cm of
the Frank Jones Sr, a singlespeed frame designed for Blue Lug, our Tokyo
dealer. We made 20 extras for us.
• seat lug (new socket style, but made for 3-deg upslope) and head lugs
(custom style)
• fillet-braed bb
•
Hey John,
Echo all the sympathies etc from the great emo support and good advice
group here. Here's what Riv can add--
We have an unofficial non-policy of mimizing the financial fixit or
replacement pain for hard-luck cases, accidents. Let me repeat the
unofficial part. We do it often as we
We have both HT and non-Heat Treated SILVER tubing...and one of my BLAHG
posts within the last 5 weeks had an explanation. On the Taiwan frames we
use non-HT tubes, which are better (for reasons explained in the post). For
the American frames we use HT, because there's a belief (that I don't
Maybe it's been made clear, but the brief history is that we ordered the
62, 58, 55, 51, 48 and they came measured that way to the point on the seat
lug. We overlooked this, and it turns out the normal measuring way was 1cm
less. A cm is nothing when it's part of a 6-deg upsloping top tube,
igured out for the world, I just know what my
preferences are, and I'm not dumb enough to think everybody's like me or
should be...or like Rivendell. Plus, there's so much variety out there, and
it's fun to try it. From a totally purely RBW business tactical approach---
which never kicks in entirely wit
The old song updated and fantasticized, Martin! Good work.
The low horizontal tube makes it a "Laddie Lifter,"a term we've used
--along 'lady lifter," depending--many times around here. Gotta love a
Laddie Lifter. I also triangulates the BB area, reducing flex/fatigue
there. Even without it,
Freddie Hoffman has ridden more than 1.5 million miles with an
upright-swept back handlebar. In the '80s he averated 50,000 miles per
year. We've covered him in the RR, he's been written up here and there...it
can be done.
On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Turskovitch wrote:
>
cm Appaloosa this past weekend and loved
> it. Frames, or completes, that small are hard to find (and it seems that
> Rivendell might not be making many production models in those sizes
> anymore.) Dose anyone have any leads on a 46cm Appa, a 45cm Clem H, or
> something similar?
&g
The stoker stem works with bosco bars (in stock) and with an incoming newer
Choco bar that we are getting in mid May. Same as the other chocos but the
clamp sleeve is longer to accommodate the double clamps. Current chocos
don't have a wide enough clamp area.
-Dave
On Wednesday, April
The "bad blood" is that the guy who used to own and started Frost River
stole our designs and said they were his...and that was after many generous
and helpful-in-money ways gestures on our part to help his business get
started and stay afloat. It was a bummer, but he was desperate, and I
I'm no fountain pen fanatic, but I know two who are, and they're also bike
and camera people, so I know it must be dangerous. I have a Waterman
something-or-other that my mother-in-law gave to me several years ago, and
since then I've bought three Lamy pens, which are cheap enough--$35 to $45,
BSNYC *was* much-needed and still is. Humor is subjective, but heck--he's
pretty funny. He cusses, but in the big picture and certainly now, that's a
small deal--and this from somebody who didn't swear once until he was 19,
and then only because I trout I'd been working on all evening took the
Tubes are the same starting length, just cut shorter for smaller bikes--so
that's not it. We can still do the tiny American bikes, but "doing them"
amounts to keeping the possibilities open, which is fine and easy, but
we'll get zero to one orders for 47 Atlantis per year...and even so,
t; ones as historical references?
>
> Doug Peterson
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2017 at 1:24:58 PM UTC-8, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>>
>> On the tube top question---
>>
>> There is "on paper" length and "anatomical effect." On paper the Joe Ap
>> is
On the tube top question---
There is "on paper" length and "anatomical effect." On paper the Joe Ap is
longer, but that means you ride a 9 instead of an 11 stem. And the higher
bars possible with the Appa bring back them back toward you more and at the
same time have a lengthening effect on
The Atlantis won't go away forever and never for long and maybe not at all,
and redundancy has been our calling card and anchor all along...because
Rivendell bikes are all good for more than one thing. How is a good commute
bike different than a good touring bike? You might have historical
I think the whole dedication read (according to memory, even tho I have a
copy in the next room): To BF Skinner ... the most misunderstood person of
all time...and Bob Dylan...it's the least I can do and the only thing I can
think of. My thinking was that most people "learn" about skinner not
Sometimes the maker requires a minimum retail price--for a small variety of
good or at least well-intended reasons. VP-001 was one of those, but it's
not the only one, for sure. If (for example) the Min Sell Price (MSP) of X
is $80 and a seller complies because compliance is generally good when
Clue should've been high carb / low carB--not "car". And it's a bar we
don't sell anymore. Dove bar. Meat (if a real dove), and ice cream /
chocolate confection for the high carb.
Buckwheat was SOBA bar.
I'll try to post the key--need roman's help converting excel file to JPEG.
Internet was
Years ago there was a Noodle-shaped exactly handobar with a bulge, not a
sleeve in the middle, and it weighed like 60g less, so we called it a
superlight Noodle bar, and it WAS a noodle by bend, and we named it after a
Japanese (since it is made by NITTO) buckwheat noodle. Not Udon, which is
The HHH crank PLAN is for 44x34x24 with 38T timing rings, and only the 44
aluminum---because small rings wear faster and timing rings--not sure if
the straight chainpath reduces wear enough to compensate for the aluminum
so we just went with steel. The cost diff was not a factor--we save a
lanation or goofing off,
it's simple.
I know that Rivendell has had an influence, and you can't HAVE an influence
without immediately being somewhat copied and spread around by distant
friends of former first cousins and colleagues. It would be
weird/inconsistent/greedy/disingenuous to believ
There is a lot going on with tire sizes, but it's so much, and is such a
combination of obvious simplicity and actual and made up complication and
opionion, that the only way to talk about it, the only way I could, would
-- well, it requires being able to type three overlapping words at a time,
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 10:46:16 AM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I just referred someone to MUSA shorts on another forum - now I can't find
> even knickers on Rivbike?
> What's us?
>
MUSA may be the longest-running flop in the RBW micro-empire. As anybody
who knows me knows, I am never
Ted wrote me a super nice and encouraging note either in '94 winter after
Bstone announced its closing or early '95, in the first weeks of
RBW---complimenting the XO-1 among other things, and it started a 25-year
friendship. It was the first time I was aware of a stranger from faraway
The ISO (int'l standards org) has crystal clear recommendations for inner
rim width and tire width, but they're not regulations. A couple of years
ago I posted them in some form somewhere--and we had an internal talk about
them--and all of us here and tons of you there have had the
The $30-or-so Wald basket with support struts might not mesh in with one's
sense of asthetics, but as a cheap fantastic way to carry a decent front
load, it is hard to beat. Strapping a standalone basked (Wald MED) onto a
suitable standalone rack, then or not adding a Shopsack MED with or
We got an iBert to test out about 8 years ago, and found the same thing.
I've seen a few around, always rigid-forward arms trying to reach the flat
bars. The iBert seems to need a superlong TT (CLEM has) and Bosco-style
bars. Not sure it'll mount on CLEM-L. As I remember it, it needed a top
Thanks for reading it--that's it, as intended, 100 percent, Eamon. As the
world gets more crowded, there's a need for more tolerance.
There's an out of print book (it's Amazon-usedbookable) called The Human
Zoo, written by Desmond Morris. His take on what goes on in a crowded world
that doesn't
The only lug that doesn't allow angle-versatility is the CLEM lug, which is
why we got the curvy seat stays--so we could make the chainsays the length
we wanted. The upper seat stay socket is cast into the lug, so isn't
variable. But structurally, it is SUPER.
The lug and seat stay cap combo
We like them because they have a flattish ramp and a the only good looking
ana-bend ever. I THINK the consensus here is that a Noodle still wins (my
vote, but that's to be expected, I'm sure)...but we don't automatically
dislike handlebars we didn't design! It's a nice bar. The reach is super
The Pantaloon screwhead was...not serious. I'd never even heard about it
until I googled "unusual screw heads" or something like that. D-ring and
slot, and the slot is sized for a dime.
On Sunday, October 23, 2016 at 6:08:28 AM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> Pentelope? Does that mean I can't
Shifter pos: The "fwd" pos works better, doesn't put the lever too high in
the "up" pos. It puts it farther away in the D-pos, but still easily in
reach.
The lack of metal washer: Ideally it would be oil-stuffed bronze, but that
would've been an underappreciated black-hole money-sucker. I've
Short answer is: New washers seem fine. Longer answer is below.
THey're still not breakproof, but they're a different plastic than the
early ones, and none of these has broken. I've got a bristly take on those
washers, probably not a popular one, but here it is--
Plastic (of some sort) is an
r shifters, stock up now. The Silver 2
>> looks like it'll be a way better thumb shifter, a somewhat better barcon
>> shifter, and an amusingly ironic downtube shifter. Most importantly (to
>> me), is that if you want to embolden Rivendell Bicycle Works to keep
>> p
The Rodin theme was too obvious to adopt, but it was always in the
background. It'll likely be a frame only, but we're thinking about whole
bike, and that's not ruled out. Maybe some of each. It may follow CLEM and
have a seat lug. Sam is already a good road bike, but the clearances big
you to
Dang, I just wrote a Pulitzer-worthy post, then went back for a fact-check
and came back and couldn't find it, and now I'm in no mood to try to do it
again, so I'll just lay 'er out there:
B347 is "Dove bar" RBW was the first-in-memory to import it.
B352 is "Albatross" -- same story
At least
downhill eCumbents?<---dat da diff direction?
pm me please, P.
G
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 4:04:44 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’m going to be riding off a different direction. Thank you all on this
> group — you have helped me tremendously as I’ve dived into wrenching and
>
We have 47/50cm Saluki/Hilsens, 46cm Appaloosas, 45/51cm Clems &
Clementines & 51cm Sams IN STOCK.
50cm Cheviots on the way
Dave Schonenberg
http://www.rivbike.com
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We sell about 40 a year--laughable by some standards, but it's one a week
in a teacher's year. (Apologies to teachers who work in the summer).
On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:47:52 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main
> and
Roadini will be more of a "Slim CLEM" road bike. We'll toe the line (as
I've said) btw useful braze-ons and "sending the wrong message about what
the bike is for" braze-ons—and the same for clearances/tire compatibility.
<---those will be Roadeo-like.
The Rambouillet and Romulus were lugged
To speculateurs and 'teuses:
Le Roadini..hm. I didn't realize we'd announced anything yet, but since le
chat is out of the mussette, here's 100 percent of what there is to know
about it:
1. It's not going to duplicate or overlap too much any existing bike except
the Roadeo. No "85 percent Sam,
I'd always wanted to do a lugged tandem, but we can't afford the tooling
for it, it would be extreemly suicidal, and it would take many
tandem-curious people out of the running. A tandem is rarely the most
ridden bike, and a super expensive one risks becoming a objet d'guilt or a
at least
Bikes generally grow taller way faster than they grow longer, and
so...bigger bikes are top-heavy. "Top-heavy" isn't exactly a scientific
description, but it's a way to casually talk about the proportions of
weight-up-high to wheelbase-down-low. For hundreds of decades, the longest
chainstays
mewhere. I welcome complaints because it gives us a
chance to understand each other. I might not break, but I might bend a
little. Never hurts to ask.
Sincerely,
Dave Schonenberg
General Manager
Rivendell Bicycle Works
d...@rivbike.com
(925) 933-7304
On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 2:31:35 PM UT
We always try to listen!
As many with shipping experiences in small businesses have noted, it's a
continuing source of angst...but we try to do our best. The time spent
picking and packing a $10 order can be the same or more than for a $200
order, and although we appreciate any order, when we
> >
> > On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 8:09:06 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, but uh-oh, right before the awesome grilling footage, a bicycle
> >> careening down the road with a fagot of branches precariously perched
> on a
> >>
BB spindle length:
It's always safe and usually best to use the bb the crank maker recommends,
or (more to the point) a dimensional equivalent. I'm not going to address
taper here, just quick notes about length. It comes down to chainline,
which has nothing to do with the chain. Almost
We have deposits for the first run-o-Rubbes and are planning (designing
another now). So far, so good. Most of the forks are Sams, but there are
some others. We're trying hard NOT to overlap existing models. Like, we
have no tall-tall Sam, but we have forks for a 64, so we can do something
Maybe this has been addressed already, but when Deore came out in '85 or
'84 or '86, it came with a deer head logo, all the bike riders in my clique
figured the Japanese guys misspelled "deer," but then there was the
possibility of "de-ore" being some international befuddling name for "of
On the topic of secrecy and open-ness---it's probably fine to post to
Forumists...my concern is that it's a first for us to be so out there with
bikes that are still being developed, and I did n't want naysayers or
advisors up the wazoo. There have been a few, not many, and it's been
I am not fluent here and tried to respond to other comments about it, then
gave up and thought I could do it here & this way...wondering all the while
whether this is what "thread thwacking" is. Anyway, this isn't the last
word on it, just our experience and observations.
It looks best and
2016 at 1:40 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Well that is some bittersweet news. No doubt she is stepping into a new
>> challenge, but she was always a pleasure to deal with and seemed to be a
>> more or less permanent
I haven't read the responses, but it is SLIGHTLY disturbing that a possible
crack like this goes public before it comes to us. It's life in 2016, and I
harbor no anything, but it's not a direct way, and it is embarrassing. If
the second-owner of this frame contacts us directly, -- well, as the
MCGUIAR'S car wax is the stuff Joe Bell recommends. We've used it now and
then. About 17 years ago a guy got a custom fixie bike, and don't wonder
why, there was no good actual reason, but I put a rare earth magnet on it
for some reason. Maybe to hold a piece of paper on it. That is beside the
Somebody already said it, but here's a repeat with some background. Shellac
comes off the tree as a solid, and is liquified for use with denatured
alcohol, its solvent. So denatured alcohol has to make the list of Go To
shellac removers...and related to that...the gel form of alcohol may stay
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